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(Huffington Post)   The "secret ingredient" in Guinness will make vegans squirm... which means more Guinness for those of us who understand humans are omnivores   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 18
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2013-03-15 10:26:18 AM
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Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?


They are not very cute or furry.
2013-03-15 10:23:32 AM
4 votes:
Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?
2013-03-15 10:38:29 AM
2 votes:

Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?


Organisms?  Plants are organisms.

Look.  People who try to hunt down every semi-exception to vegan food in this world and then point and laugh at vegans are kinda dicks.  Going vegetarian is pretty much the best thing you can do, environmentally, given how much energy goes into feeding and keeping livestock.  Plus, they're not exactly treated well.

/eats meat.
//lots of meat.
2013-03-15 03:42:06 PM
1 votes:
Predictably, in this thread...

loveforlife.com.au

/yea, a veritable army of them
2013-03-15 01:57:46 PM
1 votes:

spidermilk: or if you are vegan you can't be responsible for the death of any organism (which is impossible).


That's not what veganism is.

Veganism simply is "the doctrine that man should live without exploiting animals,"  Donald Watson 1944

What you are talking about is called "Jainism"
2013-03-15 01:47:16 PM
1 votes:
I'm not a vegetarian, but the people who are like 'HUMANS ARE OMNIVORES- MEAT IS THE BEST FOR YOU!!!!' are just as bad as hard core vegans to me.

There are reasons why we shouldn't eat as much meat as we eat. To some people apparently it is all or nothing. You can eat all the meat possible or if you are vegan you can't be responsible for the death of any organism (which is impossible).

Maybe if we just cut back on some things we'd be healthier, we could use different farming practices, we could treat the animals we did have to kill a little better, and we could use less resources in general. Is that so horrible?
2013-03-15 01:43:11 PM
1 votes:

Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?


TFA is not about yeast, it's about isinglass. And yeast is a living organism, just like plants, that vegans eat.
2013-03-15 11:52:59 AM
1 votes:

CheekyMonkey: I tried a couple of times, but never had success with pineapple tops.  Did you plant the whole cut-off pineapple top, or twist out the leaves and just plant them?


I followed this, and it has photos of what you should be seeing when you slice it up.

http://www.rickswoodshopcreations.com/pineapple/pineapple.htm
2013-03-15 10:57:14 AM
1 votes:

cousin-merle: CheekyMonkey: I used to use gelatin to fine my homebrew, mostly because it was easier to get/cheaper than isinglass.  Then I decided I didn't care.  Leaving the yeast in means more B vitamins in the end product.

I use Irish moss.  Regardless of the vegetarian aspect, if you've ever had a beer that was improperly fined with gelatin, you would never want to use it again.  Gooey gelatinous beer is really gross (thanks for the experience Fantome).


Sounds pretty gross.  Never ran into that problem myself, and like I said, eventually I stopped using finings at all.  A couple of weeks in the secondary, and most of the yeast falls out of suspension on it's own.  Plus, most of what I make is stouts & porters, so it's not like I'm going to read the newspaper through it anyway...
2013-03-15 10:53:58 AM
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CheekyMonkey: Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?

No, but HuffPo needs clicks.  Also, 99.4% of all commercial beers use either isinglass or gelatin as a fining ingredient.  Neither of which is vegan-friendly.

Vegans should just stay away from all alcoholic beverages, though, since they're all based on fermentation, which exploits yeast.


Umm, yeast is a fungus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast , Vegans have no problem eating mushrooms.
2013-03-15 10:51:17 AM
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CheekyMonkey: I used to use gelatin to fine my homebrew, mostly because it was easier to get/cheaper than isinglass.  Then I decided I didn't care.  Leaving the yeast in means more B vitamins in the end product.


I use Irish moss.  Regardless of the vegetarian aspect, if you've ever had a beer that was improperly fined with gelatin, you would never want to use it again.  Gooey gelatinous beer is really gross (thanks for the experience Fantome).
2013-03-15 10:44:37 AM
1 votes:
How can you tell who is a vegan at a dinner party?

Don't worry... they will tell you.
2013-03-15 10:36:32 AM
1 votes:
Vegans enjoy the exploitation and slaughter of innocent suffering plants.
2013-03-15 10:30:23 AM
1 votes:
Nice. More evidence that Guinness counts as a meal.
2013-03-15 10:29:04 AM
1 votes:

Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?


No, but HuffPo needs clicks.  Also, 99.4% of all commercial beers use either isinglass or gelatin as a fining ingredient.  Neither of which is vegan-friendly.

Vegans should just stay away from all alcoholic beverages, though, since they're all based on fermentation, which exploits yeast.
2013-03-15 10:26:26 AM
1 votes:

Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?


I've never understood that.  One of my friends said it was about not eating anything with a face.  I then pointed out how many insects were killed making his clothes and he got mad at me.
2013-03-15 10:21:53 AM
1 votes:
It used to be blood.
2013-03-15 09:49:19 AM
1 votes:
Like the whole world is going to quit drinking Guinness because the vegos are upset.  More for the rest of us.
 
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