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(Huffington Post)   The "secret ingredient" in Guinness will make vegans squirm... which means more Guinness for those of us who understand humans are omnivores   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 198
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2013-03-15 09:49:19 AM  
Like the whole world is going to quit drinking Guinness because the vegos are upset.  More for the rest of us.
 
2013-03-15 10:21:53 AM  
It used to be blood.
 
2013-03-15 10:22:25 AM  
I might actually buy more now.
 
2013-03-15 10:23:32 AM  
Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?
 
2013-03-15 10:26:18 AM  

Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?


They are not very cute or furry.
 
2013-03-15 10:26:26 AM  

Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?


I've never understood that.  One of my friends said it was about not eating anything with a face.  I then pointed out how many insects were killed making his clothes and he got mad at me.
 
2013-03-15 10:29:04 AM  

Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?


No, but HuffPo needs clicks.  Also, 99.4% of all commercial beers use either isinglass or gelatin as a fining ingredient.  Neither of which is vegan-friendly.

Vegans should just stay away from all alcoholic beverages, though, since they're all based on fermentation, which exploits yeast.
 
2013-03-15 10:29:42 AM  
I always thought Guinness had a certain "wang" go it...
 
2013-03-15 10:30:22 AM  
Something's fishy.
 
2013-03-15 10:30:23 AM  
Nice. More evidence that Guinness counts as a meal.
 
2013-03-15 10:30:41 AM  

Molavian: Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?

I've never understood that.  One of my friends said it was about not eating anything with a face.  I then pointed out how many insects were killed making his clothes and he got mad at me.


Headless pig OK?
 
2013-03-15 10:31:32 AM  
Humans eat these?

i141.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-15 10:31:47 AM  
Many home brew kits. both wine and beer, come with a package of isinglass for fining, Maybe the fish just donate it, and none are harmed in the making etc. Anyway, vegans are weenies so TFA is rather pointless.
 
2013-03-15 10:33:24 AM  

CheekyMonkey: Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?

No, but HuffPo needs clicks.  Also, 99.4% of all commercial beers use either isinglass or gelatin as a fining ingredient.  Neither of which is vegan-friendly.

Vegans should just stay away from all alcoholic beverages, though, since they're all based on fermentation, which exploits yeast.


well, isn't fish bladder oil a lot more user friendly than ground up horse hooves (or whatever goes into gelatin)?

i mean, at least the pescaterians can still drink.

/ has a wife that occasionally avoids the mammals.  so, fish and birds... but, she only avoids cooking it.  if someone else makes it, she'll eat it.  since, like the dala lamai said, it's already dead, you might as well spare the feelings of your host.
 
2013-03-15 10:33:58 AM  
It's the isinglass that comes from animals.  Technically, lettuce and alfalfa sprouts are also living organisms, but that doesn't seem to bother them.
 
2013-03-15 10:34:14 AM  

CheekyMonkey: Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?

No, but HuffPo needs clicks.  Also, 99.4% of all commercial beers use either isinglass or gelatin as a fining ingredient.  Neither of which is vegan-friendly.

Vegans should just stay away from all alcoholic beverages, though, since they're all based on fermentation, which exploits yeast.


We used to use the stuff here. Pain in the butt, but it really helped with fining the stuff, extending the life of the filters and speeding up a transfer.

Last we spent $150k on a 100bbl an hour centrifuge and stopped using isinglass completely

Damn thing sound like jet engine while running though
 
2013-03-15 10:34:28 AM  
It's a bar towel, isn't it? I bet it's a bar towel.
 
2013-03-15 10:34:40 AM  
TFA says that Guinness Black Lager isn't suitable for vegetarians, I didn't think it was suitable for anybody.  They should be ashamed at putting their name on such an awful product.
 
2013-03-15 10:36:32 AM  
Vegans enjoy the exploitation and slaughter of innocent suffering plants.
 
2013-03-15 10:36:48 AM  

CheekyMonkey: Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?

No, but HuffPo needs clicks.  Also, 99.4% of all commercial beers use either isinglass or gelatin as a fining ingredient.  Neither of which is vegan-friendly.

Vegans should just stay away from all alcoholic beverages, though, since they're all based on fermentation, which exploits yeast.


I tend to think of alcohol as yeast pee, rather than a yeast death by-product, This will make it more palatable to Vegans, who are used to being pissed on by real meat-eating alpha males.
 
2013-03-15 10:38:29 AM  

Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?


Organisms?  Plants are organisms.

Look.  People who try to hunt down every semi-exception to vegan food in this world and then point and laugh at vegans are kinda dicks.  Going vegetarian is pretty much the best thing you can do, environmentally, given how much energy goes into feeding and keeping livestock.  Plus, they're not exactly treated well.

/eats meat.
//lots of meat.
 
2013-03-15 10:39:50 AM  
Um, my ultra-vegan sister told me this quite a few years ago while we were hanging out and I was drinking a Guinness. I kept drinking my Guinness. Then ordered another.
 
2013-03-15 10:44:14 AM  

pag1107: They should be ashamed at putting their name on such an awful product.


Anyone I know whose had it has said it's quite nice. I think it's been pulled off the market now, anyway
 
2013-03-15 10:44:37 AM  
How can you tell who is a vegan at a dinner party?

Don't worry... they will tell you.
 
2013-03-15 10:44:58 AM  
Great.... Now I want fish maw soup.
 
2013-03-15 10:45:20 AM  
Luckily, most good beer doesn't use isinglass or gelatin.  Enjoy your colon cancer, haters.
 
2013-03-15 10:45:46 AM  

Cerebral Knievel: Last we spent $150k on a 100bbl an hour centrifuge and stopped using isinglass completely

Damn thing sound like jet engine while running though


Any time I see a centrifuge in a brewery I picture the thing coming unbolted while it's running. They scare me.
 
2013-03-15 10:46:31 AM  

pute kisses like a man: CheekyMonkey: Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?

No, but HuffPo needs clicks.  Also, 99.4% of all commercial beers use either isinglass or gelatin as a fining ingredient.  Neither of which is vegan-friendly.

Vegans should just stay away from all alcoholic beverages, though, since they're all based on fermentation, which exploits yeast.

well, isn't fish bladder oil a lot more user friendly than ground up horse hooves (or whatever goes into gelatin)?

i mean, at least the pescaterians can still drink.

/ has a wife that occasionally avoids the mammals.  so, fish and birds... but, she only avoids cooking it.  if someone else makes it, she'll eat it.  since, like the dala lamai said, it's already dead, you might as well spare the feelings of your host.


1.  It isn't oil.
2.  Why would it be more "user-friendly"?  Either a bunch of fish died to make the isinglass, or a bunch of ungulates died to make the gelatin.
 
2013-03-15 10:48:04 AM  

Cerebral Knievel: CheekyMonkey: Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?

No, but HuffPo needs clicks.  Also, 99.4% of all commercial beers use either isinglass or gelatin as a fining ingredient.  Neither of which is vegan-friendly.

Vegans should just stay away from all alcoholic beverages, though, since they're all based on fermentation, which exploits yeast.

We used to use the stuff here. Pain in the butt, but it really helped with fining the stuff, extending the life of the filters and speeding up a transfer.

Last we spent $150k on a 100bbl an hour centrifuge and stopped using isinglass completely

Damn thing sound like jet engine while running though


I used to use gelatin to fine my homebrew, mostly because it was easier to get/cheaper than isinglass.  Then I decided I didn't care.  Leaving the yeast in means more B vitamins in the end product.
 
2013-03-15 10:49:30 AM  
Ok, I actually prefer brown ales to stouts, but just for this, I'm having a Guiness tonight.
 
2013-03-15 10:50:02 AM  

Farxist Marxist: CheekyMonkey: Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?

No, but HuffPo needs clicks.  Also, 99.4% of all commercial beers use either isinglass or gelatin as a fining ingredient.  Neither of which is vegan-friendly.

Vegans should just stay away from all alcoholic beverages, though, since they're all based on fermentation, which exploits yeast.

I tend to think of alcohol as yeast pee, rather than a yeast death by-product, This will make it more palatable to Vegans, who are used to being pissed on by real meat-eating alpha males.


Pfft.  What do you think happens to the yeast after it's done fermenting the wort?  You think the brewery releases it back into the wild, or sends it off to live out the remainder of it's days at Darryl Hannah's Yeast Sanctuary?  No.  It's MURDERED.  BEER IS MURDER.

\off to have a Guinness
 
2013-03-15 10:51:17 AM  

CheekyMonkey: I used to use gelatin to fine my homebrew, mostly because it was easier to get/cheaper than isinglass.  Then I decided I didn't care.  Leaving the yeast in means more B vitamins in the end product.


I use Irish moss.  Regardless of the vegetarian aspect, if you've ever had a beer that was improperly fined with gelatin, you would never want to use it again.  Gooey gelatinous beer is really gross (thanks for the experience Fantome).
 
2013-03-15 10:51:43 AM  
Since when is it a secret that many breweries in the world use Isinglass for fining? Sure, they could use Protafloc/Karragen, but it's most likely more expensive.
 
2013-03-15 10:53:58 AM  

CheekyMonkey: Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?

No, but HuffPo needs clicks.  Also, 99.4% of all commercial beers use either isinglass or gelatin as a fining ingredient.  Neither of which is vegan-friendly.

Vegans should just stay away from all alcoholic beverages, though, since they're all based on fermentation, which exploits yeast.


Umm, yeast is a fungus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast , Vegans have no problem eating mushrooms.
 
2013-03-15 10:54:51 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Um, my ultra-vegan sister told me this quite a few years ago while we were hanging out and I was drinking a Guinness. I kept drinking my Guinness. Then ordered another.


Edgy, man.  I almost got cut reading that.
 
2013-03-15 10:54:52 AM  
http://www.barnivore.com/beer

Sam Smith > Guinness
 
2013-03-15 10:55:32 AM  
Eating meat is natural
Not eating meat is a choice.
 
2013-03-15 10:55:40 AM  

Benjamin Orr: Great.... Now I want fish maw soup.


Enjoy.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-15 10:57:14 AM  

cousin-merle: CheekyMonkey: I used to use gelatin to fine my homebrew, mostly because it was easier to get/cheaper than isinglass.  Then I decided I didn't care.  Leaving the yeast in means more B vitamins in the end product.

I use Irish moss.  Regardless of the vegetarian aspect, if you've ever had a beer that was improperly fined with gelatin, you would never want to use it again.  Gooey gelatinous beer is really gross (thanks for the experience Fantome).


Sounds pretty gross.  Never ran into that problem myself, and like I said, eventually I stopped using finings at all.  A couple of weeks in the secondary, and most of the yeast falls out of suspension on it's own.  Plus, most of what I make is stouts & porters, so it's not like I'm going to read the newspaper through it anyway...
 
2013-03-15 10:57:20 AM  
That's sad.  The Huffington Post has to hire someone with a regular sense of humor.  At least, remove the word "fish" from the headline.

I would have gone with, "Guinness presents Bladder Problem for the Anally Retentive."
 
2013-03-15 10:57:49 AM  
ok DNRTFA but regular Guinnnes did used to use the non-vegan process but changed over in 2012. If they are talking about Guinness black then I have no idea.

/Don't hate on me my s/o is the one with the 12 year vegan chip.
 
2013-03-15 11:02:47 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Benjamin Orr: Great.... Now I want fish maw soup.

Enjoy.


Meh. Put enough hot sauce on it and it would probably taste fine.
 
2013-03-15 11:03:15 AM  

MindStalker: CheekyMonkey: Giltric: Vegans can make excuses for yeast being a living organism?

No, but HuffPo needs clicks.  Also, 99.4% of all commercial beers use either isinglass or gelatin as a fining ingredient.  Neither of which is vegan-friendly.

Vegans should just stay away from all alcoholic beverages, though, since they're all based on fermentation, which exploits yeast.

Umm, yeast is a fungus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast , Vegans have no problem eating mushrooms.


The difference is, a yeast cell is the entire organism, a mushroom is not.  Eating a mushroom (the fruiting body of the fungus) is akin to eating an apple, not the entire tree.  The organism itself, the mycelium, is still living in the growing medium, whether it be soil in the case of white button mushrooms, or oak limbs in the case of shiatakes.
 
2013-03-15 11:04:35 AM  
as someone drinking a pint of guinness at the moment, I would like to state that I dont care one bit
 
2013-03-15 11:05:35 AM  
And here I thought they used mule and donkey bladders in the process.
 
2013-03-15 11:06:26 AM  

CheekyMonkey: The difference is, a yeast cell is the entire organism, a mushroom is not.  Eating a mushroom (the fruiting body of the fungus) is akin to eating an apple, not the entire tree.  The organism itself, the mycelium, is still living in the growing medium, whether it be soil in the case of white button mushrooms, or oak limbs in the case of shiatakes.


Vegans eat onions, which is the entire organism.  Jains try not to kill the plant.
 
2013-03-15 11:09:50 AM  
Guinness sucks ass. It's probably the worst stout in existence.
 
2013-03-15 11:12:23 AM  
Vegans know that eating animals are unavoidable, and they eat animals every day, right?
 
2013-03-15 11:13:11 AM  

cousin-merle: CheekyMonkey: The difference is, a yeast cell is the entire organism, a mushroom is not.  Eating a mushroom (the fruiting body of the fungus) is akin to eating an apple, not the entire tree.  The organism itself, the mycelium, is still living in the growing medium, whether it be soil in the case of white button mushrooms, or oak limbs in the case of shiatakes.

Vegans eat onions, which is the entire organism.  Jains try not to kill the plant.


Vegans don't give a shiat about plants.  I was just pointing out that killing the entire organism (yeast cell) is different than eating the fruiting body of a mushroom.

Also, while I haven't tried it personally, I've heard that you can take the root end of an onion that you sliced off when you peeled it, plant it, and it will grow into another onion.  I start all my onions and leeks from seed, but if I have extra room in that planting bed this year, perhaps I'll give it a try...
 
2013-03-15 11:14:21 AM  

wambu: And here I thought they used mule and donkey bladders in the process.


That's Budweiser, and they're using the contents of those bladders, not the bladders themselves...
 
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