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(Telegraph)   Francis I went into the priesthood because a girl dumped him; in other news, the Pope has an annoying kid sister who goes around blabbing stuff   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 13
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2013-03-15 09:17:06 AM
5 votes:
Well at least we know he was interested in a GIRL at some point in life....
2013-03-15 09:33:04 AM
3 votes:
This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?
2013-03-15 09:47:03 AM
2 votes:

Sean M: This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?


There have been married Popes even, it's just been many centuries.

Historically I think it's around 3 dozen of the Popes were married, but the last one was Clement IV in the 1260's.  He was a widower.  The last one to be married while holding the office was Adrian II in the 860's.

Even Saint Peter was married (Mark 1:30 mentions is mother-in-law).  As the model for Popes, if he did it, any Pope could.

Priestly celibacy is not an absolute dogma, not even for Bishops (and thus the Pope).  It's a man-made rule, not one that is (in Church eyes) laid down by God.  If Pope Francis wanted to change the rule, he could. . .but that's really unlikely.

Then again, we've had the first non-European Pope in about 1300 years, the first Jesuit pope, the first Pope Francis, and he's apparently fond of eschewing many of the traditions of the office.  Dunno about changes to policy, but this guy doesn't appear to be "business as usual".
2013-03-15 10:38:00 AM
1 votes:

LoneWolf343: As I understand it, the celibacy requirements wasn't issued until year 1000 or so, and that's because they had a real problem with promiscuous priests.


As I've read it, promiscuity wasn't as much of a problem as "hereditary" parishes where the priest's family wielded more power than the church itself.
2013-03-15 09:56:23 AM
1 votes:

LoneWolf343: Sean M: This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?

As I understand it, the celibacy requirements wasn't issued until year 1000 or so, and that's because they had a real problem with promiscuous priests.


A real problem with peristaltic leaving property to their kids and not the church morelike.
2013-03-15 09:49:57 AM
1 votes:
So, he gets dumped by a girl runs off to join a bunch of other men with zero luck with girls and becomes their leader.  It's like the most successful D and D group ever.

/Right down to the imaginary characters that you insist are real...
//Not only a window seat, but the real estate agent already has a few choice locations for me to check out
2013-03-15 09:48:10 AM
1 votes:

LoneWolf343: Sean M: This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?

As I understand it, the celibacy requirements wasn't issued until year 1000 or so, and that's because they had a real problem with promiscuous priests.


I was under the impression it was because they did not want dynastic passing of the papal office from father to son.
2013-03-15 09:46:03 AM
1 votes:
I always feel a bit better when a person who doesnt actually want the power/office is selected.  SO much more refreshing than the "Ill say anything you want to hear" of politics, and the "I'd stab you in the back with your own femur" of business.
2013-03-15 09:38:10 AM
1 votes:

Sean M: This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?


As I understand it, the celibacy requirements wasn't issued until year 1000 or so, and that's because they had a real problem with promiscuous priests.
2013-03-15 09:33:04 AM
1 votes:

Bedstead Polisher: How many times have we sworn off relationships when they don't work out?
"That's it! I'm never going to find someone. I'm going to die alone!"
Most of us get over it and don't opt for a life of celibacy.


On the other hand, a fair number of people who enter the priesthood (or the nunnery) wash out even after having given it a lot of thought before joining. Life is weird.
2013-03-15 09:28:44 AM
1 votes:
I wonder if he'll go to her house and shout "Lookit this, biatch! I'm the motherfarking pope!"
2013-03-15 09:18:00 AM
1 votes:
I think the real story here is that he was interested in a 12-year old girl and not a 12-year old boy...
2013-03-15 09:14:35 AM
1 votes:
He's just Francis. He won't be Francis I until there's a Francis II.
 
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