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(Telegraph)   Francis I went into the priesthood because a girl dumped him; in other news, the Pope has an annoying kid sister who goes around blabbing stuff   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 46
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2013-03-15 09:14:35 AM
He's just Francis. He won't be Francis I until there's a Francis II.
 
2013-03-15 09:15:03 AM
I was dumped by so many girls as a teenager I should just about be eligible for the papacy.
 
2013-03-15 09:15:32 AM
Insists Catholics call her their most holy aunt.
 
2013-03-15 09:17:06 AM
Well at least we know he was interested in a GIRL at some point in life....
 
2013-03-15 09:17:54 AM
"If I had known he was going to be pope, I would have married him."

/Wait, what?
 
2013-03-15 09:18:00 AM
I think the real story here is that he was interested in a 12-year old girl and not a 12-year old boy...
 
2013-03-15 09:19:57 AM

ed315: I think the real story here is that he was interested in a 12-year old girl and not a 12-year old boy...


A puff piece to hide the piece he likes to puff.
 
2013-03-15 09:20:07 AM
Kind of a drastic step to take. Not unlike cutting one's penis off or switching political parties.

Maybe having this kind of loose cannon as pope is a bad idea.
 
2013-03-15 09:23:09 AM
Sounds like a quitter to me. If he'd really loved her he would have made a success of his life, bought that nice house and come back to court her when she was an adult.

But yes it's a nice change to know at least the pope was never into little boys...we think?
 
2013-03-15 09:23:16 AM
With most of the nuns I had as teachers, you could just tell they joined up because they never had a chance with a guy. I remember one teacher showing us pictures of her family from when she was a teenager and it just made me sad. She was always fat.
 
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2013-03-15 09:23:36 AM
So he was basically on the rebound?
 
2013-03-15 09:26:27 AM

Crewmannumber6: He's just Francis. He won't be Francis I until there's a Francis II.



You're presuming that that subby isn't a time-lord from 3029, and it's been Francis after Francis for 1000 years.
 
2013-03-15 09:27:50 AM
Quitter.
 
2013-03-15 09:27:55 AM

ed315: I think the real story here is that he was interested in a 12-year old girl and not a 12-year old boy...


I think the 12-year old girl was his sister. Or am I mis-reading?
 
2013-03-15 09:28:20 AM
How many times have we sworn off relationships when they don't work out?
"That's it! I'm never going to find someone. I'm going to die alone!"
Most of us get over it and don't opt for a life of celibacy.
 
2013-03-15 09:28:44 AM
I wonder if he'll go to her house and shout "Lookit this, biatch! I'm the motherfarking pope!"
 
2013-03-15 09:33:04 AM

Bedstead Polisher: How many times have we sworn off relationships when they don't work out?
"That's it! I'm never going to find someone. I'm going to die alone!"
Most of us get over it and don't opt for a life of celibacy.


On the other hand, a fair number of people who enter the priesthood (or the nunnery) wash out even after having given it a lot of thought before joining. Life is weird.
 
2013-03-15 09:33:04 AM
This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?
 
2013-03-15 09:33:07 AM
I wonder what she knows about the death squads.
 
2013-03-15 09:38:10 AM

Sean M: This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?


As I understand it, the celibacy requirements wasn't issued until year 1000 or so, and that's because they had a real problem with promiscuous priests.
 
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2013-03-15 09:41:17 AM

LDM90: With most of the nuns I had as teachers, you could just tell they joined up because they never had a chance with a guy.


Fark has shown me time and time again that such a woman does not exist, there's always guys with lower standards than mine.

I remember one teacher showing us pictures of her family from when she was a teenager and it just made me sad. She was always fat.

Life finds a way...
 
2013-03-15 09:45:41 AM
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2013-03-15 09:45:41 AM
12 years old?

DAMN! You Catholic girls start much too late, sooner or later it comes down to fate...
 
2013-03-15 09:46:03 AM
I always feel a bit better when a person who doesnt actually want the power/office is selected.  SO much more refreshing than the "Ill say anything you want to hear" of politics, and the "I'd stab you in the back with your own femur" of business.
 
2013-03-15 09:47:03 AM

Sean M: This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?


There have been married Popes even, it's just been many centuries.

Historically I think it's around 3 dozen of the Popes were married, but the last one was Clement IV in the 1260's.  He was a widower.  The last one to be married while holding the office was Adrian II in the 860's.

Even Saint Peter was married (Mark 1:30 mentions is mother-in-law).  As the model for Popes, if he did it, any Pope could.

Priestly celibacy is not an absolute dogma, not even for Bishops (and thus the Pope).  It's a man-made rule, not one that is (in Church eyes) laid down by God.  If Pope Francis wanted to change the rule, he could. . .but that's really unlikely.

Then again, we've had the first non-European Pope in about 1300 years, the first Jesuit pope, the first Pope Francis, and he's apparently fond of eschewing many of the traditions of the office.  Dunno about changes to policy, but this guy doesn't appear to be "business as usual".
 
2013-03-15 09:48:10 AM

LoneWolf343: Sean M: This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?

As I understand it, the celibacy requirements wasn't issued until year 1000 or so, and that's because they had a real problem with promiscuous priests.


I was under the impression it was because they did not want dynastic passing of the papal office from father to son.
 
2013-03-15 09:49:57 AM
So, he gets dumped by a girl runs off to join a bunch of other men with zero luck with girls and becomes their leader.  It's like the most successful D and D group ever.

/Right down to the imaginary characters that you insist are real...
//Not only a window seat, but the real estate agent already has a few choice locations for me to check out
 
2013-03-15 09:52:04 AM

Great Janitor: So, he gets dumped by a girl runs off to join a bunch of other men with zero luck with girls and becomes their leader.  It's like the most successful D and D group ever.

/Right down to the imaginary characters that you insist are real...
//Not only a window seat, but the real estate agent already has a few choice locations for me to check out


Grrr... most successful D and D group leader ever....
 
2013-03-15 09:56:23 AM

LoneWolf343: Sean M: This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?

As I understand it, the celibacy requirements wasn't issued until year 1000 or so, and that's because they had a real problem with promiscuous priests.


A real problem with peristaltic leaving property to their kids and not the church morelike.
 
2013-03-15 09:57:16 AM

Fizpez: LoneWolf343: Sean M: This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?

As I understand it, the celibacy requirements wasn't issued until year 1000 or so, and that's because they had a real problem with promiscuous priests.

I was under the impression it was because they did not want dynastic passing of the papal office from father to son.


Also possible, and not unreasonable. We did that with our presidency, and see how that turned out.
 
2013-03-15 10:02:30 AM
"It's a historic moment - he's the first non-European pope, the first Latin American and the first Argentinian and it falls to him, my brother."

Except for all the ones from places in the Middle East and Africa.
 
2013-03-15 10:08:52 AM

Sean M: This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?


Yeah but then Francis of Asisi farked it for all by saying that priests should be celibate and unmarried so that they could devote their lives to God. So, being that this pope chose to name himself after Francis of Asisi, what do you think are the odds of him allowing priests to marry?
 
2013-03-15 10:18:52 AM
Except for all the ones from places in the Middle East and Africa.

Yeah, but, that is so 13th century. Don't you know that history only counts if it's in our lifetime?  Well, except Hitler. Then we just never let the Germans live it down.

Also, Drew, at least fix the headlines with the greenlights, there is no Francis I. Unless he styled himself that way (like John Paul I). In this case, he didn't.
 
2013-03-15 10:27:55 AM

tira: Yeah, but, that is so 13th century. Don't you know that history only counts if it's in our lifetime? Well, except Hitler. Then we just never let the Germans live it down.


Well, these are the same people who spent over 1800 years blaming the Jews for something the Romans did.
 
2013-03-15 10:38:00 AM

LoneWolf343: As I understand it, the celibacy requirements wasn't issued until year 1000 or so, and that's because they had a real problem with promiscuous priests.


As I've read it, promiscuity wasn't as much of a problem as "hereditary" parishes where the priest's family wielded more power than the church itself.
 
2013-03-15 10:59:47 AM
'Get back up on the whore that dumped you.'
 
2013-03-15 11:00:48 AM

LoneWolf343: Sean M: This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?

As I understand it, the celibacy requirements wasn't issued until year 1000 or so, and that's because they had a real problem with promiscuous priests.


And priests investing in real estate and banking, but leaving assets to their kids instead of Ghod.
 
2013-03-15 11:47:35 AM
Isn't that the same reason this guy joined the priesthood?

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2013-03-15 01:40:29 PM

cynicalbastard: I was dumped by so many girls as a teenager I should just about be eligible for the papacy.


If that's a legitimate criteria, I ought to be up for freaking sainthood.

Sheesh...
 
2013-03-15 03:54:32 PM

Silverstaff: Sean M: This doesn't surprise me at all.   I've spoken with many priests over the years and some of them have been honest enough to say that the celibacy rules + all-male housing is part of the reason they went into the priesthood.   A couple of priests even were honest enough to say they've been approached in inappropriate ways by other members of clergy in the rectories (rectum?)

/Let the priests marry.
//It's in the Catholic version of the bible.  Be nice if they'd read it occasionally.
//2 Timothy 1 (NASB): Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; for if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of the church of God?

There have been married Popes even, it's just been many centuries.

Historically I think it's around 3 dozen of the Popes were married, but the last one was Clement IV in the 1260's.  He was a widower.  The last one to be married while holding the office was Adrian II in the 860's.

Even Saint Peter was married (Mark 1:30 mentions is mother-in-law).  As the model for Popes, if he did it, any Pope could.

Priestly celibacy is not an absolute dogma, not even for Bishops (and thus the Pope).  It's a man-made rule, not one that is (in Church eyes) laid down by God.  If Pope Francis wanted to change the rule, he could. . .but that's really unlikely.

Then again, we've had the first non-European Pope in about 1300 years, the first Jesuit pope, the first Pope Francis, and he's apparently fond of eschewing many of the traditions of the office.  Dunno about changes to policy, but this guy doesn't appear to be "business as usual".


Remember, despite all these firsts, he's still Italian... don't expect too much change.
 
2013-03-15 04:06:12 PM

ed315: I think the real story here is that he was interested in a 12-year old girl and not a 12-year old boy...


But he was 37 at the time.
 
2013-03-15 08:08:06 PM
And there you have the "Lunatic Fringe".

Great pick huh?

lilbjorn: ed315: I think the real story here is that he was interested in a 12-year old girl and not a 12-year old boy...

But he was 37 at the time.

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Hey, my keyboard suddenly got all wet.
 
2013-03-15 08:39:10 PM
There currently is no "Francis I."

There will not be a "Francis I" until and if another Pope later chooses the name "Francis," at which time he will be known as "Francis II."
 
2013-03-15 08:40:20 PM
He is known simply as Pope Francis.
 
2013-03-16 12:01:21 AM
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2013-03-16 01:07:54 PM

LoneWolf343: As I understand it, the celibacy requirements wasn't issued until year 1000 or so, and that's because they had a real problem with promiscuous priests.


It's the nuns, man.
 
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