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(Reuters)   Women obtaining contraception without their husband's permission, or women being in control of the family finances could destroy society   (reuters.com) divider line 43
    More: Obvious, Egypt, President Mohamed Mursi, human rights group, contraceptives, sexual freedom, civil society  
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vpb [TotalFark]
2013-03-15 09:11:08 AM  
i thought this would be about some prominent Republican.
 
2013-03-15 09:26:48 AM  
Hasn't worked so well for us.
 
2013-03-15 09:28:17 AM  

vpb: i thought this would be about some prominent Republican.


So did I., Pretty sad commentary on the state of the GOP.
 
2013-03-15 09:28:48 AM  
Isn't that cute?  Republicans support the same policy as the Muslim brotherhood.
 
2013-03-15 09:29:25 AM  
Please don't let the thread devolve into blatant misogyny, please don't let the thread devolve into blatant misogyny.  Oh dammit <b>Insatiable Jesus</b>, two posts?  Really?
 
2013-03-15 09:31:06 AM  
Looks like the Muslim Brotherhood and U.S. fundamentalists have some things in common.  Perhaps they should have a beer and go bowling or something.
 
2013-03-15 09:34:45 AM  
Kaiser won't perform a vasectomy on me unless I get my wife's signature.

Not directly relevant; just thought I'd mention it.
 
2013-03-15 09:40:16 AM  
I expected this to have something to do with a Rob Portman press release.  Him trying to make the fundies forget his new position on the gheys, etc.
 
2013-03-15 09:42:28 AM  

Wellon Dowd: Kaiser won't perform a vasectomy on me unless I get my wife's signature.

Not directly relevant; just thought I'd mention it.


Didn't know he was a doctor.

sydwalker.info
 
2013-03-15 09:44:25 AM  
If my wife were in control of the family finances, we would probably be okay.  My sister-in-law is in charge of her family's finances, and they are inches away from bankruptcy despite making almost $200K/yr between the two of them.

/anecdotes are the same as data
 
2013-03-15 09:45:11 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Wellon Dowd: Kaiser won't perform a vasectomy on me unless I get my wife's signature.

Not directly relevant; just thought I'd mention it.

Didn't know he was a doctor.

[sydwalker.info image 237x300]


Do you know what's really destroying society? Not having awesome mustaches/beards like that anymore.

//there oughta be a law....
 
2013-03-15 09:49:21 AM  
myery: Philip Francis Queeg: Wellon Dowd: Kaiser won't perform a vasectomy on me unless I get my wife's signature.

Not directly relevant; just thought I'd mention it.

Didn't know he was a doctor.

[sydwalker.info image 237x300]

Do you know what's really destroying society? Not having awesome mustaches/beards like that anymore.

//there oughta be a law....


I'M WORKING ON IT!!!

Though the whiskers are driving me a little bit insane, right now.
 
2013-03-15 09:49:36 AM  
content6.flixster.com


"Women! They let 'em vote, smoke and drive - even put 'em in pants! And what happens? A Democrat for president!"
 
2013-03-15 09:50:34 AM  

vpb: i thought this would be about some prominent Republican.


I was ging to say that it looks like the takeaway from this is that the United States GOP isn't the MOST backwards group of assholes ont he planet politically.
 
2013-03-15 09:52:33 AM  

hp6sa: If my wife were in control of the family finances, we would probably be okay.  My sister-in-law is in charge of her family's finances, and they are inches away from bankruptcy despite making almost $200K/yr between the two of them.

/anecdotes are the same as data


I've known a couple in that boat and it was the guy in charge.

Always buying things: new cars, new electronics, vacations, new house...
 
2013-03-15 09:55:37 AM  

myery: Do you know what's really destroying society? Not having awesome mustaches/beards like that anymore.

//there oughta be a law....


I tried to grow a walrus mustache once, but it only got bushier and grew forward. I couldn't get it to go down and cover my lips. I was very disappointed.
 
2013-03-15 09:57:58 AM  
And yet some people still insist Islam respects women.
 
2013-03-15 09:59:36 AM  
I am certain that Rick Santorum would fight ratifying such a treaty.
 
2013-03-15 09:59:59 AM  
He's right, though.

Joining the 21st century is going to totally mess with that paradise on earth known as BFE.
 
2013-03-15 10:02:47 AM  

Wellon Dowd: myery: Do you know what's really destroying society? Not having awesome mustaches/beards like that anymore.

//there oughta be a law....

I tried to grow a walrus mustache once, but it only got bushier and grew forward. I couldn't get it to go down and cover my lips. I was very disappointed.


How much moustache wax did you use?
 
2013-03-15 10:03:31 AM  
It will. Fark the society that prevents that. It doesn't deserve to live.
 
2013-03-15 10:07:19 AM  
Incidentally, the fundamentalists are really making what they're opposing sound like a wonderful thing.

"The Muslim Brotherhood warned the declaration would give girls sexual freedom, legalize abortion, provide teenagers with contraceptives, give equality to women in marriage and require men and women to share duties such as child care and chores."

Well, sheeit, Mohammed*, that's just a shame isn't it?

*It's a popular muslim name.
 
2013-03-15 10:08:31 AM  

Mikey1969: vpb: i thought this would be about some prominent Republican.

I was ging to say that it looks like the takeaway from this is that the United States GOP isn't the MOST backwards group of assholes ont he planet politically.


Nope, just on our continent.

csb: I married a lawyer last year. She unhesitatingly did our taxes without even a discussion as to who would do them. I love that woman. /csb
 
2013-03-15 10:09:29 AM  

Nurglitch: Wellon Dowd: myery: Do you know what's really destroying society? Not having awesome mustaches/beards like that anymore.

//there oughta be a law....

I tried to grow a walrus mustache once, but it only got bushier and grew forward. I couldn't get it to go down and cover my lips. I was very disappointed.

How much moustache wax did you use?


I didn't realize at the time that it was necessary. Our father's failed us by not passing along such knowledge.
 
2013-03-15 10:12:08 AM  
I let my ex handle the checkbook and found some interesting things after we split. Overpaid taxes being the one that hurt the most.
 
2013-03-15 10:15:30 AM  

Wellon Dowd: myery: Do you know what's really destroying society? Not having awesome mustaches/beards like that anymore.

//there oughta be a law....

I tried to grow a walrus mustache once, but it only got bushier and grew forward. I couldn't get it to go down and cover my lips. I was very disappointed.


2.bp.blogspot.com

I see you have a mouse-tache too!
 
2013-03-15 10:43:35 AM  
FTFA:
Egypt has joined Iran, Russia and the Vatican - dubbed an "unholy alliance" by some diplomats - in threatening to derail the women's rights declaration by objecting to language on sexual, reproductive and gay rights.

There's the Catholic church, FOR LIKE THE JILLIONTH TIME, siding with evil and against decency. This IS the Catholic church's MO. This is totally consistent with their history. THAT IS WHO THEY ARE. I don't know how you can have open eyes to the history of the church, be a decent human being and still not want to change to another sect. There are lots of flavors of Christianty out there... try a different one, you might like it.


In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814
 
2013-03-15 11:02:49 AM  
Are Republicans taking a page from the Islamic handbook, or are Islamic leaders taking a page from the Republican ideology? I honestly have difficulty finding any significant difference between the two views when it comes to how to treat women.
 
2013-03-15 12:05:20 PM  
Good. Any society that treats women like that should destroy itself.

Wellon Dowd: Kaiser won't perform a vasectomy on me unless I get my wife's signature.
Not directly relevant; just thought I'd mention it.


Dude, that is effed up. But considering your Fark handle, maybe they deem your junk a national treausre?
 
2013-03-15 01:22:06 PM  

Glenford: vpb: i thought this would be about some prominent Republican.

So did I., Pretty sad commentary on the state of the GOP.


The GOP has changed being  against sex before marriage is so Tuesday
 
2013-03-15 01:39:44 PM  
I just read the Muslim Brotherhood's own statement on their website, hoping they'd been misquoted or something. Nope - pretty much just as the news article reported.
 
2013-03-15 02:44:57 PM  
Well that considering that my wife managed to mess up the single financial transaction she was responsible for (paying her student loans), I don't find that too hard to believe.
 
2013-03-15 02:51:16 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: And yet some people still insist Islam respects women.


Western Islam probably does, the same way Western Christians 'respect' women. Because apparently you respect people by putting them on pedestals now.

/But at least they aren't outright abusing them, so...baby steps?
 
2013-03-15 03:12:04 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Kaiser won't perform a vasectomy on me unless I get my wife's signature.


Do they have a reciprocal policy regarding women's reproductive organs?

i897.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-15 04:32:09 PM  
Nice how some folks immediately conflate fundamentalist islam with the conservative view, and others see this as a good opportunity to bash the Catholic church (I am a lapsed Catholic, have many points of contention with the church and the Vatican, and yet I can see immediately through your obsessive hatred).

So if islam is the religion of peace, and they are so wonderful that we should be letting them build mosques everywhere, especially ground zero, doesn't that mean conservatism is grand as well, libs?  Or maybe you didn't think your false comparison through too well.  I mean, if you're going to champion the Islamists, as you are so wont to do, must you not also champion conservatism?
 
2013-03-15 05:52:21 PM  

hp6sa: If my wife were in control of the family finances, we would probably be okay.  My sister-in-law is in charge of her family's finances, and they are inches away from bankruptcy despite making almost $200K/yr between the two of them.

/anecdotes are the same as data


If I was in charge of the finances, I'd forget to pay crap. We've just worked out the arrangement I make the money and she pays the bills.

/suck on my anecdotes!
 
2013-03-15 07:05:40 PM  
If either of these things would destroy your society, your society really sucks.
 
2013-03-15 08:23:19 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Kaiser won't perform a vasectomy on me unless I get my wife's signature.

Not directly relevant; just thought I'd mention it.


Some places are funny about that.  I'd go somwhere else.
I had no problem getting one done.  The urologist didn't even ask me what anyone else thought of my decision.  I'd have been offended if he did.
 
2013-03-15 08:46:05 PM  
ikanreed:
Please don't let the thread devolve into blatant misogyny, please don't let the thread devolve into blatant misogyny.  Oh dammit <b>Insatiable Jesus</b>, two posts?  Really?

One guy = thread devolved?  Jeez, stay away from the rest of this site.

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2013-03-15 10:08:08 PM  

shaken_not_stirred:

Nice how some folks immediately conflate fundamentalist islam with the conservative view, and others see this as a good opportunity to bash the Catholic church (I am a lapsed Catholic, have many points of contention with the church and the Vatican, and yet I can see immediately through your obsessive hatred).

So if islam is the religion of peace, and they are so wonderful that we should be letting them build mosques everywhere, especially ground zero, doesn't that mean conservatism is grand as well, libs?  Or maybe you didn't think your false comparison through too well.  I mean, if you're going to champion the Islamists, as you are so wont to do, must you not also champion conservatism?

Ta-Dah!   Congratulations, you got the point.

/ Subby

 
2013-03-16 02:52:45 AM  
Well, it most certainly could destroy a marriage, which over time destroys society.

/ the contraception, not the finances.
 
2013-03-16 05:38:50 AM  
The Muslim Brotherhood warned the declaration would give girls sexual freedom, legalize abortion, provide teenagers with contraceptives, give equality to women in marriage and require men and women to share duties such as child care and chores.

The fact that there are people suggesting equality in marriage is a bad thing strains my tolerance for other opinions. I honestly wonder, sometimes, if people like this love their mothers. It seems to me, that if you love your mother, you couldn't in good conscience see her treated as a second class citizen in her own home by her husband. And, if you don't love your mother (assuming she isn't some abusive whack-job) then you don't deserve to have been born.
And how does a father give his daughter (be it give as in arranged marriage or give as in consent) to a man knowing that said man will consider her his household slave? Some societies should be destroyed, if for not other reason than to have them stop holding back the rest of human civilization.
 
2013-03-17 03:41:36 AM  

geek_mars:

Some societies should be destroyed, if for not other reason than to have them stop holding back the rest of human civilization.

Darwin, his arms wide.
 
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