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(The Verge)   Samsung: "Beware the Ides of March." Google: "Et tu S-Brute?"   (theverge.com) divider line 12
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2795 clicks; posted to Geek » on 15 Mar 2013 at 9:18 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-03-15 09:24:50 AM  
Sounds like they're expecting the Tizen to be just the vehicle they need.
 
2013-03-15 09:48:32 AM  
Just what the cell phone market needs another OS!
 
2013-03-15 10:01:46 AM  
The very, very largest hurdle will be the app market. They'll need to get enough traction with the OS in the market for the Apps to follow, but they'll need enough apps to start with to get traction in the market. The same was said of Android when it first came out, "the apple app market is too established for android to be competitive anytime soon", and Android overcame, as much due to the google fan base among the development community as anything. I think that Tizen will have a tougher row to hoe. Not to say that it can't happen, just that I don't expect it to be very smooth.
 
2013-03-15 10:23:28 AM  

kasmel: The very, very largest hurdle will be the app market. They'll need to get enough traction with the OS in the market for the Apps to follow, but they'll need enough apps to start with to get traction in the market. The same was said of Android when it first came out, "the apple app market is too established for android to be competitive anytime soon", and Android overcame, as much due to the google fan base among the development community as anything. I think that Tizen will have a tougher row to hoe. Not to say that it can't happen, just that I don't expect it to be very smooth.


It wasn't the fan base, it was that Android phones were considerably cheaper and more varied than the iPhone. And done before saturation happened, but we're pretty much there now.

Seriously, I'm seeing so many conversions because of the Galaxy S3 and the Note, it ain't even funny.
 
2013-03-15 10:40:45 AM  

Carth: Just what the cell phone market needs another OS!


Phone manufacturers overall have had a really poor track record with OSes.  Moto blew at least millions on dead ends, Nokia didn't keep up and also did the same as Moto.  HP blew stupid sums of money on (mostly tablet) WebOS only to perform a fourth trimester abortion.  So, yeah - I'm sure Samsung will be just dandy with Tizen :|
 
2013-03-15 10:43:47 AM  

farkeruk: It wasn't the fan base, it was that Android phones were considerably cheaper and more varied than the iPhone. And done before saturation happened, but we're pretty much there now.

Seriously, I'm seeing so many conversions because of the Galaxy S3 and the Note, it ain't even funny.


I work in a development studio. I can tell you that before the OS even hit the market on a single phone people were excited to work on apps for it because it was google. I'm not saying that the growth in sales wasn't influenced by the lower price or superior selection, but a good amount of the applications that were in the market early were from google fan boys. I work with a bunch of them.
 
2013-03-15 11:07:04 AM  

kasmel: The very, very largest hurdle will be the app market. They'll need to get enough traction with the OS in the market for the Apps to follow, but they'll need enough apps to start with to get traction in the market. The same was said of Android when it first came out, "the apple app market is too established for android to be competitive anytime soon", and Android overcame, as much due to the google fan base among the development community as anything. I think that Tizen will have a tougher row to hoe. Not to say that it can't happen, just that I don't expect it to be very smooth.


People said the same thing about windows phones and black berry. I don't know enough about them to say if they were right but I never hear about great apps for them.
 
2013-03-15 11:12:59 AM  
No wonder they never released a the ATIV S For WP. they want to ween themselves off other OS'es.
 
2013-03-15 11:13:04 AM  

kasmel: The very, very largest hurdle will be the app market. They'll need to get enough traction with the OS in the market for the Apps to follow, but they'll need enough apps to start with to get traction in the market. The same was said of Android when it first came out, "the apple app market is too established for android to be competitive anytime soon", and Android overcame, as much due to the google fan base among the development community as anything. I think that Tizen will have a tougher row to hoe. Not to say that it can't happen, just that I don't expect it to be very smooth.


A Verge blogger said Samsung's got a hardware accelerated method to run Android apps in Tizen (it related specifically to the new CPU, I believe). I read it in passing yesterday and know virtually nothing of Tizen, so unfortunately can't add more. If I have time, I'll look for a link.

My guess is Tizen is going to look identical to TouchWiz Android and the hope is that the user won't even notice the OS changed.
 
2013-03-15 11:32:57 AM  
Samsung sucks at writing software. It's apparent across all their devices.
 
2013-03-15 04:06:12 PM  
Koreans can't code.  Google will be fine.
 
2013-03-15 06:23:26 PM  

farkeruk: It wasn't the fan base, it was that Android phones were considerably cheaper and more varied than the iPhone. And done before saturation happened, but we're pretty much there now.


There is also the fact that back then there was no alternative to the iPhone so Android was the right place at the right time.  It also had multiple manufacturers coming out with android phones.

Now Samsung comes in and wants people switch to Tizen.  Unless they can get more makers to put out Tizen phones I don't see it gaining traction.
 
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