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(Chicago Trib)   Megachurch pastor tells 16-year old that having sex with him "is exactly what Christ desires". How convenient   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 136
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2013-03-14 11:50:01 PM  
Schaap continued that their relationship was sanctioned by God and he referred to their "fantasy talk" during a counseling session. "You have affectionately spoken of being 'my wife.' That is exactly what Christ desires for us. He wants to marry us + become eternal lovers! Or at least until you get old or fat! BTW do you have a younger sister? Just asking lol JK :) But do you??"
 
2013-03-14 11:54:57 PM  
Shocking. That almost never happens.

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2013-03-15 12:32:27 AM  

Godscrack: Shocking. That almost never happens.

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You might want to redo your shock graphic there so you don't get called out. The Mohler case was dismissed with prejudice because it was discovered there was absolutely no evidence to support the bizzare claims being made by the woman involved. In addition, it's believed that this case represents another example of the Ritual Abuse Panic that has been sweeping the nation since the late 1980s involving religious daycares and institutions. In addition, the stories told by the individuals which accused the Mohlers never matched up with any kind of evidence found by police.

The Mohler case demonstrates the dangers of moral panics combined with the idea that "recovered memories" are real.
 
2013-03-15 12:43:51 AM  
Creepy scumbag the head of a megachurch? Get out.
 
2013-03-15 12:45:27 AM  
When your desires and your god's desires line up perfectly, you need to start asking yourself some questions.
 
2013-03-15 01:07:15 AM  
"God wants us to fark.  No, seriously.  I asked him.  He sent me a text this morning."
 
2013-03-15 01:46:36 AM  
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2013-03-15 02:25:52 AM  
Okay, I'm not trying to defend a jackass that would take advantage of someone he is treating for emotional issues, or is otherwise in a position if authority over. He was very, very wrong to do this, and deserves to be punished.

But if I'm not mistaken, the age of consent in Indiana is 16.
 
2013-03-15 02:46:05 AM  

ox45tallboy: Okay, I'm not trying to defend a jackass that would take advantage of someone he is treating for emotional issues, or is otherwise in a position if authority over. He was very, very wrong to do this, and deserves to be punished.

But if I'm not mistaken, the age of consent in Indiana is 16.


It's very illegal to transport a minor over state lines or out of the country for sex.

/lawyer
 
2013-03-15 02:46:40 AM  

ox45tallboy: Okay, I'm not trying to defend a jackass that would take advantage of someone he is treating for emotional issues, or is otherwise in a position if authority over. He was very, very wrong to do this, and deserves to be punished.

But if I'm not mistaken, the age of consent in Indiana is 16.


I don't know about Indiana, but age of consent, especially for minors, doesn't usually apply to people in positions of authority, does it? For example, I highly doubt it's not against the law for a teacher in Indiana to sleep with a 16 year old student (or even a 18 year old student). Right? Wouldn't the same kind of thing apply to a pastor and his/her congregation? It's not the age thing, necessarily, so much as it is the abuse of the position of authority.

If it's not explicitly against the law, it's at the very least extremely unethical.
(which is something we both seem to agree upon)

/perhaps more legally minded folk could clarify?
 
2013-03-15 03:03:41 AM  

mamoru: I don't know about Indiana, but age of consent, especially for minors, doesn't usually apply to people in positions of authority, does it?


not relevant
he can not be convicted of statutory rape, which is why he was farking 16 year olds and not 15.
position of authority?
LOLOLOL

he might be able to lose his job because of it. but that is it.

HAHAHA HAHAHAHAH HAHAHA
idiot took her across state lines?
HELLLLOOOO
the FEDS are prosecuting him, not the states.
farking her in indiana was legal
all he had to do is stay in state.
idiot
 
2013-03-15 03:13:43 AM  

namatad: not relevant


It kinda is, for the purposes of prosecution.  There are special laws in regards to people in positions of authority when it comes to those who are considered still under the legal age, but at or above the age of consent. Tennessee, for example, has an age of consent of 16, but a within-two-years clause attached to it. It's legal for an 18 year old and a 16 year old to fark, but a 19 year old can be charged with statutory rape for it.
 
2013-03-15 03:33:11 AM  

L.D. Ablo: It's very illegal to transport a minor over state lines or out of the country for sex.

/lawyer


Ah. That would do it.

I would say how in the hell do the parents allow the girl to be in a position where this could happen, but I guess if you can't trust your pastor...

/wouldn't trust ANYONE with a teenage girl
 
2013-03-15 03:40:53 AM  
Found it. Statutory Rape of a minor by an authority figure in Indiana falls under Indiana Code 35-42-4-7, Child Seduction.
 
2013-03-15 04:07:04 AM  

hardinparamedic: namatad: not relevant

It kinda is, for the purposes of prosecution.  There are special laws in regards to people in positions of authority when it comes to those who are considered still under the legal age, but at or above the age of consent. Tennessee, for example, has an age of consent of 16, but a within-two-years clause attached to it. It's legal for an 18 year old and a 16 year old to fark, but a 19 year old can be charged with statutory rape for it.


ignoring that he traveled out of state
she can consent to having sex with him
he was not a boss

now ... if she were at church camp ... then he is acting in loco parentis and is probably screwed ...
but doesnt matter
the feds got him on traveling with a minor over state lines for sex ... LOL
she should marry him and then he gets off scott free
HAHAH AHAHA HAHAHA

crazy farks
 
2013-03-15 04:31:14 AM  

hardinparamedic: namatad: not relevant

It kinda is, for the purposes of prosecution.  There are special laws in regards to people in positions of authority when it comes to those who are considered still under the legal age, but at or above the age of consent. Tennessee, for example, has an age of consent of 16, but a within-two-years clause attached to it. It's legal for an 18 year old and a 16 year old to fark, but a 19 year old can be charged with statutory rape for it.


Indiana's is a blanket 16, with a two-year exemption for 14-and-15-year-olds.
 
2013-03-15 04:34:59 AM  
that makes it seem absolutely NORMAL TO DO
WHICH IT ISNT

FOR INSTANCE, AIDS
 
2013-03-15 04:36:45 AM  
Bacchus worship was better.
 
2013-03-15 04:37:46 AM  
The story is a fake.

You know how I know? The victim was a girl. Preachers always go for the boys.
 
2013-03-15 04:38:42 AM  
Seems like a lot of people get into positions of religious authority for the sex.
 
2013-03-15 04:42:57 AM  

ox45tallboy: Okay, I'm not trying to defend a jackass that would take advantage of someone he is treating for emotional issues, or is otherwise in a position if authority over. He was very, very wrong to do this, and deserves to be punished.

But if I'm not mistaken, the age of consent in Indiana is 16.


Person in a position of trust.
 
2013-03-15 04:44:46 AM  
Let Jesus fark you?
 
2013-03-15 04:45:13 AM  

kxs401: When your desires and your god's desires line up perfectly, you need to start asking yourself some questions.


You mean like "How lucky can a guy get"?
 
2013-03-15 04:45:46 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Person in a position of trust.


Yes, and as pointed out above, he crossed state lines with a minor for the purpose of having sexual relations.
 
2013-03-15 04:46:04 AM  
Enjoy prison dummy.
 
2013-03-15 04:46:46 AM  

Oldiron_79: The story is a fake.

You know how I know? The victim was a girl. Preachers always go for the boys.


He was a Protestant megachurch pastor, not a Catholic priest.
 
2013-03-15 04:46:52 AM  
Oh, and I forgot the obligatory "Was she hot?" comment.
 
2013-03-15 04:47:39 AM  

hardinparamedic: namatad: not relevant

It kinda is, for the purposes of prosecution.  There are special laws in regards to people in positions of authority when it comes to those who are considered still under the legal age, but at or above the age of consent. Tennessee, for example, has an age of consent of 16, but a within-two-years clause attached to it. It's legal for an 18 year old and a 16 year old to fark, but a 19 year old can be charged with statutory rape for it.


She can consent...but there could be issues with whether he is in an unusual position of authority relative to her. Some states, and some professions, have rules about whether a professional person can have intimate relations with someone who has come to him or her in their professional capacity, i.e. whether a doctor can have sex with a patient or a lawyer can have sex with a client. The theory is that someone in that position is in a unique situation and having sex with one's client is an abuse of trust and potentially borders on coercion or misuse of authority.

It's iffy enough when you're talking about two fully mature adults, but when it's a teenager and her pastor--I don't know. I mean, LEGALLY she could consent, but it's perilously close to abuse of authority. It would depend in large part on her level of maturity, and how upset her parents are about the whole issue.
 
2013-03-15 04:47:55 AM  
Schaap admitted to the relationship but said he was suffering from "extreme stress, exhaustion, depression, burn-out and several other medical maladies."

guys, ease up.  he is obviously the victim here.
 
2013-03-15 04:50:38 AM  
Nowhere in the article to they even mention her being 16.

FTA: The girl had turned 17 when the incidents were happening, according to prosecutors.

And i think people are beginning to confuse age of consent with the age you can appear in porn movies.
 
2013-03-15 04:51:06 AM  
God told me that everyone should send me their money, flat screens, and expensive cars.

Cuz fark you, that's why.
 
2013-03-15 04:51:09 AM  
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2013-03-15 04:51:16 AM  

hardinparamedic: Found it. Statutory Rape of a minor by an authority figure in Indiana falls under Indiana Code 35-42-4-7, Child Seduction.


I don't see ministers among the types of authority figures specified in that section.
 
2013-03-15 04:51:45 AM  

Lurk sober post drunk: Schaap admitted to the relationship but said he was suffering from "extreme stress, exhaustion, depression, burn-out and several other medical maladies."

guys, ease up.  he is obviously the victim here.


agreed. he was unable to consent. charge the girl with super-statutory rape. it's the law.
 
2013-03-15 04:53:16 AM  
Here's an actual video of the Reverend Schaap demonstrating how he likes his shaft stroked. Safe for work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr0UpQXYkGs
 
2013-03-15 04:53:40 AM  

Lurk sober post drunk: Schaap admitted to the relationship but said he was suffering from "extreme stress, exhaustion, depression, burn-out and several other medical maladies."

guys, ease up.  he is obviously the victim here.


I'm surprised the poor fella could get it up, even for a teenager. Ah, the power of prayer!
 
2013-03-15 04:56:07 AM  
This is the face of someone I would never allow to be alone with my daughters, if I had any:

www.trbimg.com
 
2013-03-15 04:57:50 AM  
Ah, so he pled guilty to the federal rap.  There won't be a State prosecution.
 
2013-03-15 05:00:06 AM  

REO-Weedwagon: Here's an actual video of the Reverend Schaap demonstrating how he likes his shaft stroked. Safe for work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr0UpQXYkGs


HOLY PROPHETIC SHIAT!!!!

That is priceless! :-)
 
2013-03-15 05:01:28 AM  

ox45tallboy: Oldiron_79: The story is a fake.

You know how I know? The victim was a girl. Preachers always go for the boys.

He was a Protestant megachurch pastor, not a Catholic priest.


Well there thing is twink call boys that do crystal meth
 
2013-03-15 05:03:27 AM  
I guess she was what he
/puts on glasses
Prayed for
/yeah
 
2013-03-15 05:05:16 AM  

REO-Weedwagon: Here's an actual video of the Reverend Schaap demonstrating how he likes his shaft stroked. Safe for work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr0UpQXYkGs


What's this guy's fark handle? I am asking seriously. That is uncomfortably disturbing, yet he does it so well.
 
2013-03-15 05:06:58 AM  
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Approves
 
2013-03-15 05:06:59 AM  

SeraphicSorcerer: REO-Weedwagon: Here's an actual video of the Reverend Schaap demonstrating how he likes his shaft stroked. Safe for work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr0UpQXYkGs

What's this guy's fark handle? I am asking seriously. That is uncomfortably disturbing, yet he does it so well.


Something_Jesus, of course.
 
2013-03-15 05:11:05 AM  
I clicked, and my first thought was "holy shiat, it was a girl!"
 
2013-03-15 05:17:00 AM  

REO-Weedwagon: Here's an actual video of the Reverend Schaap demonstrating how he likes his shaft stroked. Safe for work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr0UpQXYkGs


What the holy f*ck was that?

I grew up in a fundy church, but seriously, what the f*ck kind of point was he trying to make?
 
2013-03-15 05:17:54 AM  

REO-Weedwagon: Here's an actual video of the Reverend Schaap demonstrating how he likes his shaft stroked. Safe for work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr0UpQXYkGs


Wow. I am just...

That was for a "youth group conference"? Holy fark, who would even let that freak anywhere near their kids after that.   o.O
 
2013-03-15 05:24:08 AM  
I"m far from current on my grasp of technology, but it seems to me if you are trying to have a secret relationship, you might want to try to limit your use of electronic devices.  For example, stop using email. texting, sexting, and the like.

Fool was probably trying to show how cool and hip he was.  Enjoy the consequences of your actions in Fed PMITA prison, preacher.
 
2013-03-15 05:31:45 AM  

ox45tallboy: REO-Weedwagon: Here's an actual video of the Reverend Schaap demonstrating how he likes his shaft stroked. Safe for work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr0UpQXYkGs

What the holy f*ck was that?

I grew up in a fundy church, but seriously, what the f*ck kind of point was he trying to make?


what all mega church pastors try and make... "give us more money"

I can't watch youtube from work, but i'm willing to bet that if you replace a lot of euphemisms in that sermon, it'll translate to something something something charity something something something personal giving us more money will reserve your seat in heaven
 
2013-03-15 05:31:50 AM  

L.D. Ablo: ox45tallboy: Okay, I'm not trying to defend a jackass that would take advantage of someone he is treating for emotional issues, or is otherwise in a position if authority over. He was very, very wrong to do this, and deserves to be punished.

But if I'm not mistaken, the age of consent in Indiana is 16.

It's very illegal to transport a minor over state lines or out of the country for sex.

/lawyer



That's the Mann Act.
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