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2013-03-15 04:42:50 AM

L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.


As a Gen Xer, I think you're a giant flaming douchebag.
 
2013-03-15 04:47:35 AM
Jebus Farking Christo on a farking tap dancing cracker.

YOLO = You Only Live Once = so do whatever you want

SWAG = Stuff We All Get = everyone has the same shiat
 
2013-03-15 04:49:22 AM
For all of you talking about the precious snowflakes you should remember that the problem doesn't lie in the snowflakes but rather their over protective Gen X parents who can't stand to see their child hurt even when the child barely cares. As a millennial myself I have seen children get "wronged" and not care only to have a parent come running in and making a big deal out of nothing. So if you are a Gen X and want to know where the snowflake problem came from then look in your high school yearbook not mine.
 
2013-03-15 04:51:27 AM
'79 here.  Don't lump me in with those Y ers.
 
2013-03-15 05:00:48 AM

themindiswatching: L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

Stop committing hate crimes!!!!

/"millennial" and nothing like that at all.


Look, I don't hate Millennials.  Most are friendly and have some good qualities.  They want to please people, are almost never racist or homophobic, care deeply, and want to do the right thing.

The problem is that Millennials have had endless adult supervision and always have an authority figure to appeal to.  I grew up with free-range children and my parents were happy when i wasn't around.  Fistfights didn't bring the police and were a way to settle problems.

DDOS attacks and Reddit butthurt won't change anything.  It's going to be dirty and bloody.
 
2013-03-15 05:02:33 AM
That article was garbage.

I teach high school. Students are not as described in the article at all, aside from a very small few. Those few realize how dumb society is and sequester themselves within the school like John Galt.
 
2013-03-15 05:04:40 AM

Gyrfalcon: Oldiron_79: L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

This

And this again. All the Millennials I've met have been entitled, shallow, spoiled brats with about as much sticktoitiveness as a Post-it. Oh, and in re this:

This is the most networked generation in American history, digitally and temperamentally.

They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.


I agree with this 100%, but "sticktoitiveness"? Why not just say perseverance?
 
2013-03-15 05:05:56 AM

Abacus9: Why not just say perseverance?


Couldn't remember the written idealization of that thought.
 
2013-03-15 05:06:25 AM

L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.


Gen X here ( I guess - am 38). Even from a younger age I felt that I was going to bear the weight of fixing this bullsh*t. My parents and their friends basically handed us a flaming paper bag of turd and laughed at us.
 
2013-03-15 05:07:32 AM

HotWingAgenda: This just in: Time magazine enjoys publishing fabricated over-generalized stereotypes solely to try to regain their lost readership.

Also: Millennials, aka the Precious Snowflake Blizzard, are the generation born after the Soviet Union broke up.  Don't blame me and my fellow Echo-Boomers (children of the Baby Boomers) for all that stupid precious snowflake shiat.



Fail.
 
2013-03-15 05:09:32 AM

Abacus9: HotWingAgenda: This just in: Time magazine enjoys publishing fabricated over-generalized stereotypes solely to try to regain their lost readership.

Also: Millennials, aka the Precious Snowflake Blizzard, are the generation born after the Soviet Union broke up.  Don't blame me and my fellow Echo-Boomers (children of the Baby Boomers) for all that stupid precious snowflake shiat.


Fail.


You've been trolled, son.
 
2013-03-15 05:09:43 AM

Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.


Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not? Yes, that is absolutely who I'd go to if I wanted something to actually get done.

Now, sweeping and flawed generalizations on your and my parts aside, I'm pretty confident that regardless of what happens, we really can't do any worse than the old guard. At the very very least, the expectation of information that's so ingrained in this generation will change the face of government. Now, that face could easily just be a facade made to look transparent and interactive... but hey at least they'd have to be aware that they can't campaign with the expectation that "everyone's forgotten that one comment."

/I miss when "swag" was just pens and crap you got at trade shows
 
2013-03-15 05:12:24 AM

Abacus9: HotWingAgenda: This just in: Time magazine enjoys publishing fabricated over-generalized stereotypes solely to try to regain their lost readership.

Also: Millennials, aka the Precious Snowflake Blizzard, are the generation born after the Soviet Union broke up.  Don't blame me and my fellow Echo-Boomers (children of the Baby Boomers) for all that stupid precious snowflake shiat.


Fail.


Article is fail. Late 70's, early 80s folk are so, so different than the limp wristed emo 2000's kids. These nonsense generational tags should be limited to 10 year spans, at most.
 
2013-03-15 05:14:23 AM

robohobo: These nonsense generational tags should be limited to 10 year spans, at most eliminated.

 
2013-03-15 05:19:06 AM

ProfessorOhki: Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not? Yes, that is absolutely who I'd go to if I wanted something to actually get done.

Now, sweeping and flawed generalizations on your and my parts aside, I'm pretty confident that regardless of what happens, we really can't do any worse than the old guard. At the very very least, the expectation of information that's so ingrained in this generation will change the face of government. Now, that face could easily just be a facade made to look transparent and interactive... but hey at least they'd have to be aware that they can't campaign with the expectation that "everyone's forgotten that one comment."

/I miss when "swag" was just pens and crap you got at trade shows


You're rambling.
 
2013-03-15 05:20:29 AM

ProfessorOhki: Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not?


Nope, that was the Boomers.

Insurgent: not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.

It means "You only live once".
 
2013-03-15 05:24:48 AM

Abacus9: ProfessorOhki: Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not?

Nope, that was the Boomers.

Insurgent: not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.

It means "You only live once".


You forgot the part where instead of saying YOLO as a cautionary thing, since you know if you only have one life you should try not to fark it up, it is used to mean do whatever you want because you need to experience everything and that is why you should have sex with that diseased hooker in the back seat of a stolen car.
 
2013-03-15 05:26:27 AM

Anenu: Abacus9: ProfessorOhki: Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not?

Nope, that was the Boomers.

Insurgent: not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.

It means "You only live once".

You forgot the part where instead of saying YOLO as a cautionary thing, since you know if you only have one life you should try not to fark it up, it is used to mean do whatever you want because you need to experience everything and that is why you should have sex with that diseased hooker in the back seat of a stolen car.


So the average modern feminist, then?
 
2013-03-15 05:32:40 AM
Allow me to adjust my onion belt while I explain what's REALLY wrong with Gen Y. It's their music. In my day we had real music: grunge. Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Smashing Pumpkins (whiny emo shoegaze grunge, but still alright when Billy Corgan wasn't raggin' it). Nirvana and Pearl Jam were never truly grunge by the way. Nowadays we got what? Fun., Death Cab for Curie? All garbage. I still listen to grunge while I rock my ripped jeans, flannel shirt over an old and faded black rock T-shirt (not a "tee" by the way) and stomp my Doc Martens to the beat of whatever Candlebox tune happens to be playing (on CD, no ipod) on my tiny little $15 boombox from Meijer. And I ain't gonna be outshined by no lousy Millenial.
 
2013-03-15 05:34:54 AM

Anenu: Abacus9: ProfessorOhki: Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not?

Nope, that was the Boomers.

Insurgent: not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.

It means "You only live once".

You forgot the part where instead of saying YOLO as a cautionary thing, since you know if you only have one life you should try not to fark it up, it is used to mean do whatever you want because you need to experience everything and that is why you should have sex with that diseased hooker in the back seat of a stolen car.


I always had a different take on things. They always say to live each day as if it's your last. Forget that, I don't want to live in a hospital with an IV drip. I want to live each day like I'm NEVER GONNA DIE!
 
2013-03-15 05:37:19 AM

Abacus9: Gyrfalcon: Oldiron_79: L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

This

And this again. All the Millennials I've met have been entitled, shallow, spoiled brats with about as much sticktoitiveness as a Post-it. Oh, and in re this:

This is the most networked generation in American history, digitally and temperamentally.

They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

I agree with this 100%, but "sticktoitiveness"? Why not just say perseverance?


"Sticktoitiveness" is an old-fashioned virtue.  Perseverance is just a word.
 
2013-03-15 05:41:11 AM

libranoelrose: ProfessorOhki: Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not? Yes, that is absolutely who I'd go to if I wanted something to actually get done.

Now, sweeping and flawed generalizations on your and my parts aside, I'm pretty confident that regardless of what happens, we really can't do any worse than the old guard. At the very very least, the expectation of information that's so ingrained in this generation will change the face of government. Now, that face could easily just be a facade made to look transparent and interactive... but hey at least they'd have to be aware that they can't campaign with the expectation that "everyone's forgotten that one comment."

/I miss when "swag" was just pens and crap you got at trade shows

You're rambling.


It's 2 in the morning. I'd be more concerned if I wasn't rambling.
 
2013-03-15 05:42:23 AM

Abacus9: Insurgent: not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.

It means "You only live once".

You forgot the part where instead of saying YOLO as a cautionary thing, since you know if you only have one life you should try not to fark it up, it is used to mean do whatever you want because you need to experience everything and that is why you should have sex with that diseased hooker in the back seat of a stolen car.

I always had a different take on things. They always say to live each day as if it's your last. Forget that, I don't want to live in a hospital with an IV drip. I want to live each day like I'm NEVER GONNA DIE!


Zen monks say, "Live each day as if your hair is on fire."
 
2013-03-15 05:45:36 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Abacus9: Insurgent: not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.

It means "You only live once".

You forgot the part where instead of saying YOLO as a cautionary thing, since you know if you only have one life you should try not to fark it up, it is used to mean do whatever you want because you need to experience everything and that is why you should have sex with that diseased hooker in the back seat of a stolen car.

I always had a different take on things. They always say to live each day as if it's your last. Forget that, I don't want to live in a hospital with an IV drip. I want to live each day like I'm NEVER GONNA DIE!

Zen monks say, "Live each day as if your hair is on fire."


I'd like, just for once, to live as if it weren't.
 
2013-03-15 05:51:43 AM

dickfreckle: Gen X here ( I guess - am 38). Even from a younger age I felt that I was going to bear the weight of fixing this bullsh*t. My parents and their friends basically handed us a flaming paper bag of turd and laughed at us.


So you are to blame for everything not being fixed already, slacker?
 
2013-03-15 06:05:52 AM
 
2013-03-15 06:11:57 AM

Sgygus: According to generational theory, the Millennials are supposed to be a civic-minded cohort (like the 'greatest generation') that will work together for the common good.

Sounds good in theory, I hope it comes to pass.


They seem to be less interested in cars and guns, willing to move back into the cities, think its hip to bicycle around, have invented things like craigslist, freecycle, and kickstarter...so there may be something to it.
 
2013-03-15 06:15:31 AM

xria: dickfreckle: Gen X here ( I guess - am 38). Even from a younger age I felt that I was going to bear the weight of fixing this bullsh*t. My parents and their friends basically handed us a flaming paper bag of turd and laughed at us.

So you are to blame for everything not being fixed already, slacker?


'83 here. I didn't expect everything to be fixed, but was it really too much to ask the previous generations not to break everything? Case in point is my father. My paternal grandparents were depression babies. By the time my grandfather died in 2003, he was a millionaire and left the wealth in a trust for his two grandkids (my bro and me). Less than 4 years later, my father had spent everything AND put us more than 300K in the hole by taking out an equity loan on a house that was paid off. Then he nearly lost the house three times because he took an ARM from Countrywide.

The Boomer generation has always been about "instant gratification takes too long." I seriously hope my generation takes a good hard look and learns a lesson or two.
 
2013-03-15 06:18:23 AM

Peki: was it really too much to ask the previous generations not to break everything?


STFU you whiny biatch, the world owes you nothing. Make your own way in the world ffs, and quit fantasizing about all the crap you COULD have had.
 
2013-03-15 06:21:44 AM

Yogimus: Peki: was it really too much to ask the previous generations not to break everything?

STFU you whiny biatch, the world owes you nothing. Make your own way in the world ffs, and quit fantasizing about all the crap you COULD have had.


Are you under the impression that you should have posted that?
 
2013-03-15 06:22:07 AM

Peki: xria: dickfreckle: Gen X here ( I guess - am 38). Even from a younger age I felt that I was going to bear the weight of fixing this bullsh*t. My parents and their friends basically handed us a flaming paper bag of turd and laughed at us.

So you are to blame for everything not being fixed already, slacker?

'83 here. I didn't expect everything to be fixed, but was it really too much to ask the previous generations not to break everything? Case in point is my father. My paternal grandparents were depression babies. By the time my grandfather died in 2003, he was a millionaire and left the wealth in a trust for his two grandkids (my bro and me). Less than 4 years later, my father had spent everything AND put us more than 300K in the hole by taking out an equity loan on a house that was paid off. Then he nearly lost the house three times because he took an ARM from Countrywide.

The Boomer generation has always been about "instant gratification takes too long." I seriously hope my generation takes a good hard look and learns a lesson or two.


Sadly, this was a popular bumper sticker around the time you were born:

drschiffman.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-15 06:27:43 AM
You'd think this was the politics tab with all the generalizations going on. Keep fooling yourselves and whining about entitled snowflakes. Soon enough you'll be yelling at kids to get off your lawn... You know because when has an older generation ever said the world is going to end because of these damn kids.
 
2013-03-15 06:28:25 AM
'83 here

I just skimmed the article but it seems to be fairly accurate. I have no expectation for SS to exist by the time I retire (around 65...probably a little longer) and  have no gripes about raising the SS retirement age, limiting the annual benefit increase percentage, or even using bargaining power to access cheaper meds. I consider myself a fiscal moderate but will never vote for a party that refuses to progress on social issues such as gay marriage and female reproductive rights. Also, I have no grand plans to cash my house in as a fool-proof investment. My house is just a place to live where the monthly payment stays relatively stable.

I would also like to repeatedly punch the boomer I work with in the face as I have to listen to her biatching every day about how husband is "making her retire at 59 1/2 instead of 59." Boo-farking-hoo.
 
2013-03-15 06:35:37 AM
I look at it this way. This moronic blight on society will be the greatest generation ever. The inability to pull up their pants, wash their hands properly and they have to crawl out of their facebook caves to actually interact... Will end up killing each other through natural bacteria or some kind of shock having to deal with a real live actual person at some point. They die off, the few who aren't deadlocked into this abysmal existence will hopefully still remember how to breed and we can move forward.

Until the jesus freaks outbreed everyone and kill us all off.

//clown cars.
/lonely sad slashy because I'm more than likely right
 
2013-03-15 06:57:35 AM
"As several recent surveys have shown, the Millennial generation has generally progressive views on race, gay marriage, and the size of the state."

I've been saying this for years, unless the republican party changes it's views on social issues they're never going to win another election. Personally I'm more conservative on fiscal issues but liberal on social ones. I don't care if gays get married or women choose to have an abortion, but I would like to see government cut spending substantially. Our government simply wastes to damn much money.
 
2013-03-15 06:58:12 AM
Hehe, I remember when that was a big criticism of kids back in the 90s.
 
2013-03-15 07:01:12 AM
'84. Currently in what's left of the manufacturing sector trying to undo or repair the damage done by the boomers. (Both in the "keeping some mfg. here in the country" sense and the "Wow, this quality system has completely fallen to shiat because of lazy people" sense.)

/anecdotal, of course
 
2013-03-15 07:12:47 AM

DerpHerder: You'd think this was the politics tab with all the generalizations going on. Keep fooling yourselves and whining about entitled snowflakes. Soon enough you'll be yelling at kids to get off your lawn... You know because when has an older generation ever said the world is going to end because of these damn kids.


This is the politics tab.
 
2013-03-15 07:14:12 AM

sendtodave: DerpHerder: You'd think this was the politics tab with all the generalizations going on. Keep fooling yourselves and whining about entitled snowflakes. Soon enough you'll be yelling at kids to get off your lawn... You know because when has an older generation ever said the world is going to end because of these damn kids.

This is the politics tab.


It's on Main as well, so it's the worst of both worlds.
 
2013-03-15 07:16:49 AM

ReapTheChaos: "As several recent surveys have shown, the Millennial generation has generally progressive views on race, gay marriage, and the size of the state."

I've been saying this for years, unless the republican party changes it's views on social issues they're never going to win another election. Personally I'm more conservative on fiscal issues but liberal on social ones. I don't care if gays get married or women choose to have an abortion, but I would like to see government cut spending substantially. Our government simply wastes to damn much money.


The question is if or when voters will put their fiscal views ahead of their social ones.
As you said, you don't care about gays marrying or abortions. Are you willing to keep the current spending to see that they can?

The flaw in the two party system is we are left with only one viable alternate choice at any given time.  Sending a message to the democrats means endorsing the republican party as it exists.  Backing a third party (whether libertarian, tea party, green, or whoever) means keeping the status quo.
Unless we figure out how to evolve the Republican party or replace it in full on short notice, I think the pattern we'll see will probably mirror the Clinton/Bush years.

/Youth back a strong and vibrant candidate, candidate disappoints, youth grow up and back the opposing party. Opposition disappoints, cycle repeats.
 
2013-03-15 07:22:26 AM
i recently heard from a 20 year old that swag is the new "bling"
 
2013-03-15 07:27:08 AM

ladyfortuna: KrispyKritter: keep deluding yourself into thinking the masses have control over anything. we are all at the whims of the wealthy powerful families that own and play Government.

^^


^^
 
2013-03-15 07:32:27 AM

randomjsa: 18-24 year old people remain some of the most ignorant and under informed voters we have no matter who they vote for.

And in this country that's saying a lot considering the 25+ crowd isn't exactly well informed either.

But if you're expecting the "ignorant so they vote for Democrats line..." you came to the wrong post.

Fark is one of the websites that highlights the precious snow flakes entitlement mentality and people with an entitlement mentality will generally vote for Democrats. There was no better example of this than when they talked to a bunch of college/just out of college students about why they didn't have health insurance. The almost universal answer was "We shouldn't have to pay for that!"

It would take too much out of their precious 'entertainment' expenses.

So yes, the 18-24 year old crowd is entitled and wants to live a consequence free life style where they are taken care of by the government. How nice.


So... vote Republican?
 
2013-03-15 07:34:30 AM

way south: ReapTheChaos: "As several recent surveys have shown, the Millennial generation has generally progressive views on race, gay marriage, and the size of the state."

I've been saying this for years, unless the republican party changes it's views on social issues they're never going to win another election. Personally I'm more conservative on fiscal issues but liberal on social ones. I don't care if gays get married or women choose to have an abortion, but I would like to see government cut spending substantially. Our government simply wastes to damn much money.

The question is if or when voters will put their fiscal views ahead of their social ones.
As you said, you don't care about gays marrying or abortions. Are you willing to keep the current spending to see that they can?

The flaw in the two party system is we are left with only one viable alternate choice at any given time.  Sending a message to the democrats means endorsing the republican party as it exists.  Backing a third party (whether libertarian, tea party, green, or whoever) means keeping the status quo.
Unless we figure out how to evolve the Republican party or replace it in full on short notice, I think the pattern we'll see will probably mirror the Clinton/Bush years.

/Youth back a strong and vibrant candidate, candidate disappoints, youth grow up and back the opposing party. Opposition disappoints, cycle repeats.


The greatest thing that happened to our country in the 19th century was the dissolution of the Whig Party; having run its course, in time the younger cadre of Whigs formed the Republican Party, and they accomplished a lot in the span of their first twelve years (Admittedly, they went off the deep end, but an assassination combined with the omni-rampant corruption of the Gilded Age did that to all politicians).

In the 20th Century, we faced another supreme crisis in the Depression, and the Democratic Party reformed itself into a more liberal institution than it had ever been, and it instituted numerous programs vital for the modernization of our country.

Perhaps we are on the cusp of the Republican Party falling apart and and whatever emerges from the ashes will be a great force for progress.
 
2013-03-15 07:39:34 AM

L.D. Ablo: Millennial precious snowflakes


...it's so precious that you think snowflakism is a new thing.

/See Mitt Romney for proof that it isn't.
 
2013-03-15 07:40:55 AM
Moreover, as both fans and critics of Ron and Rand Paul like to point out, college kids seem to be the most ardent supporters of the Libertarian Party's don't-tell-me-what-to-do politics. While on issues like marriage equality this can make them seem liberal, on issues of taxation and government regulation it doesn't.

Young people are impulsive and egocentric. Thanks for your reporting, Ric Romero.
 
2013-03-15 07:41:50 AM

INeedAName: randomjsa: 18-24 year old people remain some of the most ignorant and under informed voters we have no matter who they vote for.

And in this country that's saying a lot considering the 25+ crowd isn't exactly well informed either.

But if you're expecting the "ignorant so they vote for Democrats line..." you came to the wrong post.

Fark is one of the websites that highlights the precious snow flakes entitlement mentality and people with an entitlement mentality will generally vote for Democrats. There was no better example of this than when they talked to a bunch of college/just out of college students about why they didn't have health insurance. The almost universal answer was "We shouldn't have to pay for that!"

It would take too much out of their precious 'entertainment' expenses.

So yes, the 18-24 year old crowd is entitled and wants to live a consequence free life style where they are taken care of by the government. How nice.

So... vote Republican?


What randomlibbyalt doesn't want to admit is, those "consequences", being "taken care of"?  They feel they;re entitled to such outlandish things as "responsible consumer protection laws", and "environmental regulations" that mean they can "swim in the nearby river without growing a third arm".  They feel like being free of the consequences of the financial sector wiping out their life savings, of not being persecuted because they don't have a Y chromosome and might need a medication for a part of their internal system that happens to also function for reproduction, of having their financial stability wiped out by the cost of getting treated for a medical debilitation.  Those people are such moochers.
 
2013-03-15 07:43:22 AM
"Millenial" here. Don't know what yolo is, nor do I want to cut entitlements.
 
2013-03-15 07:46:46 AM
What this reporter is leaving out is a lot of '80s kids are much more receptive to single payer. We have this neighbor to the North that's gotten along just fine with it for decades now. Institute that and there's no need for Medicare or Medicaid.
 
2013-03-15 07:48:24 AM
The derp is strong in this thread.
 
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