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2013-03-14 09:55:30 PM  
According to generational theory, the Millennials are supposed to be a civic-minded cohort (like the 'greatest generation') that will work together for the common good.

Sounds good in theory, I hope it comes to pass.
 
2013-03-14 11:52:28 PM  
Someone is going to have the be the Purveyor Of Crunk. Who will step up?
 
2013-03-15 12:22:25 AM  
They've been saying that for 20 years. A fashion style isn't going to kill America. Hell, bell-bottoms didn't.
 
2013-03-15 12:30:11 AM  
"True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country. " -- attributed to Kurt Vonnegut
 
2013-03-15 01:16:13 AM  
There's a lot of smart kids coming into their own right now. Yes, the YOLO crowd exists, but I feel like they're no worse off than our landlord who is too stupid to even own this property, yet here he is collecting $24,000 a year, paying out about $5000 in tax, sewer, trash and water bills and only showing up to half-assingly fix things if the law says he's supposed to provide a certain service.
 
2013-03-15 02:05:55 AM  
Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.
 
2013-03-15 02:26:17 AM  

L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.


Stop committing hate crimes!!!!

/"millennial" and nothing like that at all.
 
2013-03-15 03:39:18 AM  

Sgygus: According to generational theory, the Millennials are supposed to be a civic-minded cohort (like the 'greatest generation') that will work together for the common good.

Sounds good in theory, I hope it comes to pass.


However, I'm not going to hold my breath =/
 
2013-03-15 03:43:22 AM  

L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.


This
 
2013-03-15 03:43:45 AM  

L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.


I disagree. The snowflake crowd exists but most people have too strong of opinions even in my Millennial generation.

/doesn't swag
/doesn't yolo, but carpe diem
 
2013-03-15 03:44:21 AM  

L.D. Ablo: Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.


Xers can be some of the most cynical assholes on this planet, yet be "activists" at the same time. Most of them think Rage Against the Machine and The various "Activist" protest bands out there actually gave a shiat. Nah, they just said what riled you guys up, and took the check to the bank.

There hasn't been real political action in this country since the Vietnam War protests. All I've seen is Xers sit on their asses and go "Welp, the Boomers screwed up, let's sit back and watch and laugh" while on the same runaway train as the rest of the country.
 
2013-03-15 03:45:58 AM  
Every generation has that brief moment of optimism about how they'll change things and it'll be different and better and they won't do things like their parents and grandparents who farked it all up.


And then those people grow up and realize that they can make a lot of money becoming part of the very system they railed against when they were younger and nothing ever really changes.
 
2013-03-15 03:46:18 AM  
Coming from a group of people who can't seem to figure out that your pants don't need to cover your belly button.
 
2013-03-15 03:47:26 AM  
I think we, as a race, have long crossed the rubicon. We just don't realize it yet.
 
2013-03-15 03:50:12 AM  
www.explosm.net
 
2013-03-15 03:50:39 AM  
Could be worse

www.woodstock.com
 
2013-03-15 03:52:04 AM  
Jerseyian... Would you trust it though with a gambling advocate, Senator Ray Lesniak of New Jersey?

cdn.latestcasinobonuses.com
 
2013-03-15 03:52:20 AM  
keep deluding yourself into thinking the masses have control over anything. we are all at the whims of the wealthy powerful families that own and play Government.
 
2013-03-15 03:54:52 AM  
Nothing will change, the status quo will rule and all will be forgotten tomorrow.

Keep feeding at the trough and hope nothing changes. I hope to see great change. Change that will make all see that we need to act as one to better the lives of all.

But it's only a dream. When my alarm goes off in the morning I'm brought back to the reality of this nine to five nightmare that we call life.

Where have the productivity gains gone? What's happened to technology? Wasn't life supposed to be easy?

But, its Friday, we have no time to worry about such trivial trappings. Our weekend is awaiting. Our 48 hour plans cannot be changed.

We'll always be the same, just as long as we're human.
 
2013-03-15 03:55:03 AM  
18-24 year old people remain some of the most ignorant and under informed voters we have no matter who they vote for.

And in this country that's saying a lot considering the 25+ crowd isn't exactly well informed either.

But if you're expecting the "ignorant so they vote for Democrats line..." you came to the wrong post.

Fark is one of the websites that highlights the precious snow flakes entitlement mentality and people with an entitlement mentality will generally vote for Democrats. There was no better example of this than when they talked to a bunch of college/just out of college students about why they didn't have health insurance. The almost universal answer was "We shouldn't have to pay for that!"

It would take too much out of their precious 'entertainment' expenses.

So yes, the 18-24 year old crowd is entitled and wants to live a consequence free life style where they are taken care of by the government. How nice.
 
2013-03-15 03:57:25 AM  

Sneakernets: L.D. Ablo: Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

Xers can be some of the most cynical assholes on this planet, yet be "activists" at the same time. Most of them think Rage Against the Machine and The various "Activist" protest bands out there actually gave a shiat. Nah, they just said what riled you guys up, and took the check to the bank.

There hasn't been real political action in this country since the Vietnam War protests. All I've seen is Xers sit on their asses and go "Welp, the Boomers screwed up, let's sit back and watch and laugh" while on the same runaway train as the rest of the country.


How in the world are Gen X "activists"? Nobody cares about the message or the lyrics in the music, nobody. Gen X is just unconcerned with the Boomers' failures, because it's not their problem. The word that basically sums it all up for them is "meh".

Alphakronik: Coming from a group of people who can't seem to figure out that your pants don't need to cover your belly button.


Grow up, twerp.
 
2013-03-15 04:02:35 AM  

KrispyKritter: keep deluding yourself into thinking the masses have control over anything. we are all at the whims of the wealthy powerful families that own and play Government.


^^
 
2013-03-15 04:03:14 AM  
meh

gen x

subby

/slackin'
 
2013-03-15 04:03:55 AM  
The great thing about talking about people on generational terms is that you don't have to cite sources or fact-check or do anything aside from pull opinions out of your ass.
 
2013-03-15 04:04:24 AM  
My future is not in the hands of Justin Beiber.
 
2013-03-15 04:10:40 AM  
We survived disco.  We will survive dubstep.
 
2013-03-15 04:11:53 AM  
Being born in '79, some measures place me with the Xers, others with the Millennials. Either way, I sit on the cusp between the generations. I don't think Xers have the numbers to sort things out on their own. Demographically speaking, it's a baby bust generation. But they are the next in line as the boomers relax their grip on power and they need to work with Millenials to get things moving again.
 
2013-03-15 04:13:09 AM  
I'll say a few things about the millenials. They gave us Occupy. Percent lingo is what made a campaign and broke another.
 
2013-03-15 04:15:48 AM  
Born in '85, not slacking just annoyed.

I swear, when I was young I thought life would be fun. Maybe I watched too many cartoons, but I knew that we certainly were not working as hard as we did in the early 19th century. We've made too many gains since then. The "Great Society" was not supposed to be temporary. We should still be enlightening others, but we first need to enlighten ourselves.

Productivity per hour is not human, it is the life of a machine. Too many people think we need to work hard, when really the problem is hoarding. As I try to buy a house, a responsible action, what do I see? People with more money just buying the property with cash. Where does that leave me?

Our income inequality is a real issue. I hope we can address it. If we are to be the world's first nation. Then we should express it.

Where does that leave us? Are we the spokesmen for the future? What about adults? They have no stake in what happens?

People are so tribalistic, we need to put aside those differences and work together to achieve a greater life. Guess what? We don't know if there's an afterlife. We do know there is this life. So lets start acting like it and get our act together.
 
2013-03-15 04:17:30 AM  
This guy couldn't even get the first TWO words of his article right?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-15 04:19:00 AM  

Joelogon: "True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country. " -- attributed to Kurt Vonnegut


It's from one of his letters; here's a more expansive and meaningful quotation:

True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country.


To wake up and find out that popularity still dictates over intelligence. To wake and find that the world is still childishly cruel. To wake and find that days, week, months, and years have done nothing to better the human race.


True terror is to wake up one morning and realize that the fools run the world.
 
2013-03-15 04:22:06 AM  
quick summary:

millenials don't care about gays getting married.

that's bad.

but,  they're skeptical of SS and Medicare.

that's good!

they use new technology.

that's bad

the technology comes with complimentary bootstraps!

that's good!

in short, RON PAUL 4 PREZ
 
2013-03-15 04:22:08 AM  

L.D. Ablo: The Boomers are fat and happy old and increasingly feeble and are not going to change their ways.


There comes a time that blaming the same old people becomes pointless.
Also, Boomer bashers generally tend to be balding 30 something wimps.
Quit whining and pull up your damn pants.
 
2013-03-15 04:24:15 AM  
 
2013-03-15 04:25:46 AM  
Born in '79.

Consider myself Gen Y.

/as in why bother?
 
2013-03-15 04:26:57 AM  

Oldiron_79: L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

This


And this again. All the Millennials I've met have been entitled, shallow, spoiled brats with about as much sticktoitiveness as a Post-it. Oh, and in re this:

This is the most networked generation in American history, digitally and temperamentally.

They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.
 
2013-03-15 04:28:10 AM  

L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
2013-03-15 04:28:31 AM  
This just in: Time magazine enjoys publishing fabricated over-generalized stereotypes solely to try to regain their lost readership.

Also: Millennials, aka the Precious Snowflake Blizzard, are the generation born after the Soviet Union broke up.  Don't blame me and my fellow Echo-Boomers (children of the Baby Boomers) for all that stupid precious snowflake shiat.
 
2013-03-15 04:29:36 AM  
"YOLO" I know, but what the hell is "Swag"?

/old
 
2013-03-15 04:31:34 AM  

Insurgent: quick summary:

millenials don't care about gays getting married.

that's bad.

but,  they're skeptical of SS and Medicare.

that's good!

they use new technology.

that's bad

the technology comes with complimentary bootstraps!

that's good!

in short, RON PAUL 4 PREZ


You forgot they embrace privatization.
 
2013-03-15 04:34:05 AM  

buckler: "YOLO" I know, but what the hell is "Swag"?

/old


Faux gold teef and expensive sneakers. White chicks with extensions and whore makeup. Clothes with gigantic brand names on them.  Bieber. That ugly black chick on Idol. Money for things, yet clamoring about The Man.
 
2013-03-15 04:34:33 AM  
By the way, I live in Yolo County, California
 
2013-03-15 04:35:41 AM  
They prefer personalization, from their iPhones to their DVRs to their Scion cars, rather than general issue one-size-fits-all solutions.

This is the voice of all you whiny old people. Totally out-of-touch. Best quote in the article, IMO.
 
2013-03-15 04:35:47 AM  

buckler: "YOLO" I know, but what the hell is "Swag"?

/old


Likewise.  Grew up thinking swag was free shiat you brought home from Comdex and other conventions. Now it means, "swagger."

Urban Dictionary's top definition is rather amusing:

The most used word in the whole farking universe. Douche bags use it, your kids use it, your mail man uses it, and your farking dog uses it. If you got swag, you generally wear those shiatty hats side way, and your ass hanging out like a farking goof cause your pants are half way down your white ass legs. To break down the word, it means (Secretly We Are Gay). It is also a word that means to represent yourself/ the way you represent yourself, baggy clothes, shiatty hats, small penis and basically a way to say your afraid to come out of the closet.
Assface Magee: I got so much swag
Darrel: You got so much dick in your ass
Assface Magee: fark you, SWAG
 
2013-03-15 04:36:42 AM  

thisispete: Being born in '79, some measures place me with the Xers, others with the Millennials. Either way, I sit on the cusp between the generations.


Ah, a fellow Echo-Boomer.  Anyone born to parents who were born during the post-WWII economic boom in the 50's is in our generation.
 
2013-03-15 04:39:12 AM  

Sneakernets: There hasn't been real political action in this country since the Vietnam War protests. All I've seen is Xers sit on their asses and go "Welp, the Boomers screwed up, let's sit back and watch and laugh" while on the same runaway train as the rest of the country.


I don't think we in Gen X have either the numbers or the money to get paid attention to.
 
2013-03-15 04:39:40 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: buckler: "YOLO" I know, but what the hell is "Swag"?

/old

Likewise.  Grew up thinking swag was free shiat you brought home from Comdex and other conventions. Now it means, "swagger."

Urban Dictionary's top definition is rather amusing:

The most used word in the whole farking universe. Douche bags use it, your kids use it, your mail man uses it, and your farking dog uses it. If you got swag, you generally wear those shiatty hats side way, and your ass hanging out like a farking goof cause your pants are half way down your white ass legs. To break down the word, it means (Secretly We Are Gay). It is also a word that means to represent yourself/ the way you represent yourself, baggy clothes, shiatty hats, small penis and basically a way to say your afraid to come out of the closet.
Assface Magee: I got so much swag
Darrel: You got so much dick in your ass
Assface Magee: fark you, SWAG


not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.
 
2013-03-15 04:40:00 AM  
I assure you, generational studies are every bit as good as Chinese astrology.
 
2013-03-15 04:40:56 AM  
swag and yolo are synonymous, i mean.
 
2013-03-15 04:42:02 AM  
People are idiots. Idiots get to vote. Idiots rule.

/Nothing changes
 
2013-03-15 04:42:50 AM  

L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.


As a Gen Xer, I think you're a giant flaming douchebag.
 
2013-03-15 04:47:35 AM  
Jebus Farking Christo on a farking tap dancing cracker.

YOLO = You Only Live Once = so do whatever you want

SWAG = Stuff We All Get = everyone has the same shiat
 
2013-03-15 04:49:22 AM  
For all of you talking about the precious snowflakes you should remember that the problem doesn't lie in the snowflakes but rather their over protective Gen X parents who can't stand to see their child hurt even when the child barely cares. As a millennial myself I have seen children get "wronged" and not care only to have a parent come running in and making a big deal out of nothing. So if you are a Gen X and want to know where the snowflake problem came from then look in your high school yearbook not mine.
 
2013-03-15 04:51:27 AM  
'79 here.  Don't lump me in with those Y ers.
 
2013-03-15 05:00:48 AM  

themindiswatching: L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

Stop committing hate crimes!!!!

/"millennial" and nothing like that at all.


Look, I don't hate Millennials.  Most are friendly and have some good qualities.  They want to please people, are almost never racist or homophobic, care deeply, and want to do the right thing.

The problem is that Millennials have had endless adult supervision and always have an authority figure to appeal to.  I grew up with free-range children and my parents were happy when i wasn't around.  Fistfights didn't bring the police and were a way to settle problems.

DDOS attacks and Reddit butthurt won't change anything.  It's going to be dirty and bloody.
 
2013-03-15 05:02:33 AM  
That article was garbage.

I teach high school. Students are not as described in the article at all, aside from a very small few. Those few realize how dumb society is and sequester themselves within the school like John Galt.
 
2013-03-15 05:04:40 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Oldiron_79: L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

This

And this again. All the Millennials I've met have been entitled, shallow, spoiled brats with about as much sticktoitiveness as a Post-it. Oh, and in re this:

This is the most networked generation in American history, digitally and temperamentally.

They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.


I agree with this 100%, but "sticktoitiveness"? Why not just say perseverance?
 
2013-03-15 05:05:56 AM  

Abacus9: Why not just say perseverance?


Couldn't remember the written idealization of that thought.
 
2013-03-15 05:06:25 AM  

L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.


Gen X here ( I guess - am 38). Even from a younger age I felt that I was going to bear the weight of fixing this bullsh*t. My parents and their friends basically handed us a flaming paper bag of turd and laughed at us.
 
2013-03-15 05:07:32 AM  

HotWingAgenda: This just in: Time magazine enjoys publishing fabricated over-generalized stereotypes solely to try to regain their lost readership.

Also: Millennials, aka the Precious Snowflake Blizzard, are the generation born after the Soviet Union broke up.  Don't blame me and my fellow Echo-Boomers (children of the Baby Boomers) for all that stupid precious snowflake shiat.



Fail.
 
2013-03-15 05:09:32 AM  

Abacus9: HotWingAgenda: This just in: Time magazine enjoys publishing fabricated over-generalized stereotypes solely to try to regain their lost readership.

Also: Millennials, aka the Precious Snowflake Blizzard, are the generation born after the Soviet Union broke up.  Don't blame me and my fellow Echo-Boomers (children of the Baby Boomers) for all that stupid precious snowflake shiat.


Fail.


You've been trolled, son.
 
2013-03-15 05:09:43 AM  

Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.


Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not? Yes, that is absolutely who I'd go to if I wanted something to actually get done.

Now, sweeping and flawed generalizations on your and my parts aside, I'm pretty confident that regardless of what happens, we really can't do any worse than the old guard. At the very very least, the expectation of information that's so ingrained in this generation will change the face of government. Now, that face could easily just be a facade made to look transparent and interactive... but hey at least they'd have to be aware that they can't campaign with the expectation that "everyone's forgotten that one comment."

/I miss when "swag" was just pens and crap you got at trade shows
 
2013-03-15 05:12:24 AM  

Abacus9: HotWingAgenda: This just in: Time magazine enjoys publishing fabricated over-generalized stereotypes solely to try to regain their lost readership.

Also: Millennials, aka the Precious Snowflake Blizzard, are the generation born after the Soviet Union broke up.  Don't blame me and my fellow Echo-Boomers (children of the Baby Boomers) for all that stupid precious snowflake shiat.


Fail.


Article is fail. Late 70's, early 80s folk are so, so different than the limp wristed emo 2000's kids. These nonsense generational tags should be limited to 10 year spans, at most.
 
2013-03-15 05:14:23 AM  

robohobo: These nonsense generational tags should be limited to 10 year spans, at most eliminated.

 
2013-03-15 05:19:06 AM  

ProfessorOhki: Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not? Yes, that is absolutely who I'd go to if I wanted something to actually get done.

Now, sweeping and flawed generalizations on your and my parts aside, I'm pretty confident that regardless of what happens, we really can't do any worse than the old guard. At the very very least, the expectation of information that's so ingrained in this generation will change the face of government. Now, that face could easily just be a facade made to look transparent and interactive... but hey at least they'd have to be aware that they can't campaign with the expectation that "everyone's forgotten that one comment."

/I miss when "swag" was just pens and crap you got at trade shows


You're rambling.
 
2013-03-15 05:20:29 AM  

ProfessorOhki: Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not?


Nope, that was the Boomers.

Insurgent: not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.

It means "You only live once".
 
2013-03-15 05:24:48 AM  

Abacus9: ProfessorOhki: Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not?

Nope, that was the Boomers.

Insurgent: not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.

It means "You only live once".


You forgot the part where instead of saying YOLO as a cautionary thing, since you know if you only have one life you should try not to fark it up, it is used to mean do whatever you want because you need to experience everything and that is why you should have sex with that diseased hooker in the back seat of a stolen car.
 
2013-03-15 05:26:27 AM  

Anenu: Abacus9: ProfessorOhki: Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not?

Nope, that was the Boomers.

Insurgent: not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.

It means "You only live once".

You forgot the part where instead of saying YOLO as a cautionary thing, since you know if you only have one life you should try not to fark it up, it is used to mean do whatever you want because you need to experience everything and that is why you should have sex with that diseased hooker in the back seat of a stolen car.


So the average modern feminist, then?
 
2013-03-15 05:32:40 AM  
Allow me to adjust my onion belt while I explain what's REALLY wrong with Gen Y. It's their music. In my day we had real music: grunge. Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Smashing Pumpkins (whiny emo shoegaze grunge, but still alright when Billy Corgan wasn't raggin' it). Nirvana and Pearl Jam were never truly grunge by the way. Nowadays we got what? Fun., Death Cab for Curie? All garbage. I still listen to grunge while I rock my ripped jeans, flannel shirt over an old and faded black rock T-shirt (not a "tee" by the way) and stomp my Doc Martens to the beat of whatever Candlebox tune happens to be playing (on CD, no ipod) on my tiny little $15 boombox from Meijer. And I ain't gonna be outshined by no lousy Millenial.
 
2013-03-15 05:34:54 AM  

Anenu: Abacus9: ProfessorOhki: Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not?

Nope, that was the Boomers.

Insurgent: not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.

It means "You only live once".

You forgot the part where instead of saying YOLO as a cautionary thing, since you know if you only have one life you should try not to fark it up, it is used to mean do whatever you want because you need to experience everything and that is why you should have sex with that diseased hooker in the back seat of a stolen car.


I always had a different take on things. They always say to live each day as if it's your last. Forget that, I don't want to live in a hospital with an IV drip. I want to live each day like I'm NEVER GONNA DIE!
 
2013-03-15 05:37:19 AM  

Abacus9: Gyrfalcon: Oldiron_79: L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

This

And this again. All the Millennials I've met have been entitled, shallow, spoiled brats with about as much sticktoitiveness as a Post-it. Oh, and in re this:

This is the most networked generation in American history, digitally and temperamentally.

They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

I agree with this 100%, but "sticktoitiveness"? Why not just say perseverance?


"Sticktoitiveness" is an old-fashioned virtue.  Perseverance is just a word.
 
2013-03-15 05:41:11 AM  

libranoelrose: ProfessorOhki: Gyrfalcon: They may be "networked" but when something doesn't work, who do they come crying to to "fix it?" Yeah, us Gen-X'ers. Millennials have about as much idea how com-put-ers work as my mother does. But at least she's got the excuse she was born before the microprocessor was invented.

Isn't X pretty much the generation responsible for perfecting the culture of middle management? Where the idea of "fixing" it is to have a pre-meeting for the meeting where you delegate an action item to evaluate if "fixed" is really a market requirement or not? Yes, that is absolutely who I'd go to if I wanted something to actually get done.

Now, sweeping and flawed generalizations on your and my parts aside, I'm pretty confident that regardless of what happens, we really can't do any worse than the old guard. At the very very least, the expectation of information that's so ingrained in this generation will change the face of government. Now, that face could easily just be a facade made to look transparent and interactive... but hey at least they'd have to be aware that they can't campaign with the expectation that "everyone's forgotten that one comment."

/I miss when "swag" was just pens and crap you got at trade shows

You're rambling.


It's 2 in the morning. I'd be more concerned if I wasn't rambling.
 
2013-03-15 05:42:23 AM  

Abacus9: Insurgent: not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.

It means "You only live once".

You forgot the part where instead of saying YOLO as a cautionary thing, since you know if you only have one life you should try not to fark it up, it is used to mean do whatever you want because you need to experience everything and that is why you should have sex with that diseased hooker in the back seat of a stolen car.

I always had a different take on things. They always say to live each day as if it's your last. Forget that, I don't want to live in a hospital with an IV drip. I want to live each day like I'm NEVER GONNA DIE!


Zen monks say, "Live each day as if your hair is on fire."
 
2013-03-15 05:45:36 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Abacus9: Insurgent: not sure how old you are, but "YOLO" means "cool." or "groovy," if you're into that kind of thing.

It means "You only live once".

You forgot the part where instead of saying YOLO as a cautionary thing, since you know if you only have one life you should try not to fark it up, it is used to mean do whatever you want because you need to experience everything and that is why you should have sex with that diseased hooker in the back seat of a stolen car.

I always had a different take on things. They always say to live each day as if it's your last. Forget that, I don't want to live in a hospital with an IV drip. I want to live each day like I'm NEVER GONNA DIE!

Zen monks say, "Live each day as if your hair is on fire."


I'd like, just for once, to live as if it weren't.
 
2013-03-15 05:51:43 AM  

dickfreckle: Gen X here ( I guess - am 38). Even from a younger age I felt that I was going to bear the weight of fixing this bullsh*t. My parents and their friends basically handed us a flaming paper bag of turd and laughed at us.


So you are to blame for everything not being fixed already, slacker?
 
2013-03-15 06:05:52 AM  
 
2013-03-15 06:11:57 AM  

Sgygus: According to generational theory, the Millennials are supposed to be a civic-minded cohort (like the 'greatest generation') that will work together for the common good.

Sounds good in theory, I hope it comes to pass.


They seem to be less interested in cars and guns, willing to move back into the cities, think its hip to bicycle around, have invented things like craigslist, freecycle, and kickstarter...so there may be something to it.
 
2013-03-15 06:15:31 AM  

xria: dickfreckle: Gen X here ( I guess - am 38). Even from a younger age I felt that I was going to bear the weight of fixing this bullsh*t. My parents and their friends basically handed us a flaming paper bag of turd and laughed at us.

So you are to blame for everything not being fixed already, slacker?


'83 here. I didn't expect everything to be fixed, but was it really too much to ask the previous generations not to break everything? Case in point is my father. My paternal grandparents were depression babies. By the time my grandfather died in 2003, he was a millionaire and left the wealth in a trust for his two grandkids (my bro and me). Less than 4 years later, my father had spent everything AND put us more than 300K in the hole by taking out an equity loan on a house that was paid off. Then he nearly lost the house three times because he took an ARM from Countrywide.

The Boomer generation has always been about "instant gratification takes too long." I seriously hope my generation takes a good hard look and learns a lesson or two.
 
2013-03-15 06:18:23 AM  

Peki: was it really too much to ask the previous generations not to break everything?


STFU you whiny biatch, the world owes you nothing. Make your own way in the world ffs, and quit fantasizing about all the crap you COULD have had.
 
2013-03-15 06:21:44 AM  

Yogimus: Peki: was it really too much to ask the previous generations not to break everything?

STFU you whiny biatch, the world owes you nothing. Make your own way in the world ffs, and quit fantasizing about all the crap you COULD have had.


Are you under the impression that you should have posted that?
 
2013-03-15 06:22:07 AM  

Peki: xria: dickfreckle: Gen X here ( I guess - am 38). Even from a younger age I felt that I was going to bear the weight of fixing this bullsh*t. My parents and their friends basically handed us a flaming paper bag of turd and laughed at us.

So you are to blame for everything not being fixed already, slacker?

'83 here. I didn't expect everything to be fixed, but was it really too much to ask the previous generations not to break everything? Case in point is my father. My paternal grandparents were depression babies. By the time my grandfather died in 2003, he was a millionaire and left the wealth in a trust for his two grandkids (my bro and me). Less than 4 years later, my father had spent everything AND put us more than 300K in the hole by taking out an equity loan on a house that was paid off. Then he nearly lost the house three times because he took an ARM from Countrywide.

The Boomer generation has always been about "instant gratification takes too long." I seriously hope my generation takes a good hard look and learns a lesson or two.


Sadly, this was a popular bumper sticker around the time you were born:

drschiffman.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-15 06:27:43 AM  
You'd think this was the politics tab with all the generalizations going on. Keep fooling yourselves and whining about entitled snowflakes. Soon enough you'll be yelling at kids to get off your lawn... You know because when has an older generation ever said the world is going to end because of these damn kids.
 
2013-03-15 06:28:25 AM  
'83 here

I just skimmed the article but it seems to be fairly accurate. I have no expectation for SS to exist by the time I retire (around 65...probably a little longer) and  have no gripes about raising the SS retirement age, limiting the annual benefit increase percentage, or even using bargaining power to access cheaper meds. I consider myself a fiscal moderate but will never vote for a party that refuses to progress on social issues such as gay marriage and female reproductive rights. Also, I have no grand plans to cash my house in as a fool-proof investment. My house is just a place to live where the monthly payment stays relatively stable.

I would also like to repeatedly punch the boomer I work with in the face as I have to listen to her biatching every day about how husband is "making her retire at 59 1/2 instead of 59." Boo-farking-hoo.
 
2013-03-15 06:35:37 AM  
I look at it this way. This moronic blight on society will be the greatest generation ever. The inability to pull up their pants, wash their hands properly and they have to crawl out of their facebook caves to actually interact... Will end up killing each other through natural bacteria or some kind of shock having to deal with a real live actual person at some point. They die off, the few who aren't deadlocked into this abysmal existence will hopefully still remember how to breed and we can move forward.

Until the jesus freaks outbreed everyone and kill us all off.

//clown cars.
/lonely sad slashy because I'm more than likely right
 
2013-03-15 06:57:35 AM  
"As several recent surveys have shown, the Millennial generation has generally progressive views on race, gay marriage, and the size of the state."

I've been saying this for years, unless the republican party changes it's views on social issues they're never going to win another election. Personally I'm more conservative on fiscal issues but liberal on social ones. I don't care if gays get married or women choose to have an abortion, but I would like to see government cut spending substantially. Our government simply wastes to damn much money.
 
2013-03-15 06:58:12 AM  
Hehe, I remember when that was a big criticism of kids back in the 90s.
 
2013-03-15 07:01:12 AM  
'84. Currently in what's left of the manufacturing sector trying to undo or repair the damage done by the boomers. (Both in the "keeping some mfg. here in the country" sense and the "Wow, this quality system has completely fallen to shiat because of lazy people" sense.)

/anecdotal, of course
 
2013-03-15 07:12:47 AM  

DerpHerder: You'd think this was the politics tab with all the generalizations going on. Keep fooling yourselves and whining about entitled snowflakes. Soon enough you'll be yelling at kids to get off your lawn... You know because when has an older generation ever said the world is going to end because of these damn kids.


This is the politics tab.
 
2013-03-15 07:14:12 AM  

sendtodave: DerpHerder: You'd think this was the politics tab with all the generalizations going on. Keep fooling yourselves and whining about entitled snowflakes. Soon enough you'll be yelling at kids to get off your lawn... You know because when has an older generation ever said the world is going to end because of these damn kids.

This is the politics tab.


It's on Main as well, so it's the worst of both worlds.
 
2013-03-15 07:16:49 AM  

ReapTheChaos: "As several recent surveys have shown, the Millennial generation has generally progressive views on race, gay marriage, and the size of the state."

I've been saying this for years, unless the republican party changes it's views on social issues they're never going to win another election. Personally I'm more conservative on fiscal issues but liberal on social ones. I don't care if gays get married or women choose to have an abortion, but I would like to see government cut spending substantially. Our government simply wastes to damn much money.


The question is if or when voters will put their fiscal views ahead of their social ones.
As you said, you don't care about gays marrying or abortions. Are you willing to keep the current spending to see that they can?

The flaw in the two party system is we are left with only one viable alternate choice at any given time.  Sending a message to the democrats means endorsing the republican party as it exists.  Backing a third party (whether libertarian, tea party, green, or whoever) means keeping the status quo.
Unless we figure out how to evolve the Republican party or replace it in full on short notice, I think the pattern we'll see will probably mirror the Clinton/Bush years.

/Youth back a strong and vibrant candidate, candidate disappoints, youth grow up and back the opposing party. Opposition disappoints, cycle repeats.
 
2013-03-15 07:22:26 AM  
i recently heard from a 20 year old that swag is the new "bling"
 
2013-03-15 07:27:08 AM  

ladyfortuna: KrispyKritter: keep deluding yourself into thinking the masses have control over anything. we are all at the whims of the wealthy powerful families that own and play Government.

^^


^^
 
2013-03-15 07:32:27 AM  

randomjsa: 18-24 year old people remain some of the most ignorant and under informed voters we have no matter who they vote for.

And in this country that's saying a lot considering the 25+ crowd isn't exactly well informed either.

But if you're expecting the "ignorant so they vote for Democrats line..." you came to the wrong post.

Fark is one of the websites that highlights the precious snow flakes entitlement mentality and people with an entitlement mentality will generally vote for Democrats. There was no better example of this than when they talked to a bunch of college/just out of college students about why they didn't have health insurance. The almost universal answer was "We shouldn't have to pay for that!"

It would take too much out of their precious 'entertainment' expenses.

So yes, the 18-24 year old crowd is entitled and wants to live a consequence free life style where they are taken care of by the government. How nice.


So... vote Republican?
 
2013-03-15 07:34:30 AM  

way south: ReapTheChaos: "As several recent surveys have shown, the Millennial generation has generally progressive views on race, gay marriage, and the size of the state."

I've been saying this for years, unless the republican party changes it's views on social issues they're never going to win another election. Personally I'm more conservative on fiscal issues but liberal on social ones. I don't care if gays get married or women choose to have an abortion, but I would like to see government cut spending substantially. Our government simply wastes to damn much money.

The question is if or when voters will put their fiscal views ahead of their social ones.
As you said, you don't care about gays marrying or abortions. Are you willing to keep the current spending to see that they can?

The flaw in the two party system is we are left with only one viable alternate choice at any given time.  Sending a message to the democrats means endorsing the republican party as it exists.  Backing a third party (whether libertarian, tea party, green, or whoever) means keeping the status quo.
Unless we figure out how to evolve the Republican party or replace it in full on short notice, I think the pattern we'll see will probably mirror the Clinton/Bush years.

/Youth back a strong and vibrant candidate, candidate disappoints, youth grow up and back the opposing party. Opposition disappoints, cycle repeats.


The greatest thing that happened to our country in the 19th century was the dissolution of the Whig Party; having run its course, in time the younger cadre of Whigs formed the Republican Party, and they accomplished a lot in the span of their first twelve years (Admittedly, they went off the deep end, but an assassination combined with the omni-rampant corruption of the Gilded Age did that to all politicians).

In the 20th Century, we faced another supreme crisis in the Depression, and the Democratic Party reformed itself into a more liberal institution than it had ever been, and it instituted numerous programs vital for the modernization of our country.

Perhaps we are on the cusp of the Republican Party falling apart and and whatever emerges from the ashes will be a great force for progress.
 
2013-03-15 07:39:34 AM  

L.D. Ablo: Millennial precious snowflakes


...it's so precious that you think snowflakism is a new thing.

/See Mitt Romney for proof that it isn't.
 
2013-03-15 07:40:55 AM  
Moreover, as both fans and critics of Ron and Rand Paul like to point out, college kids seem to be the most ardent supporters of the Libertarian Party's don't-tell-me-what-to-do politics. While on issues like marriage equality this can make them seem liberal, on issues of taxation and government regulation it doesn't.

Young people are impulsive and egocentric. Thanks for your reporting, Ric Romero.
 
2013-03-15 07:41:50 AM  

INeedAName: randomjsa: 18-24 year old people remain some of the most ignorant and under informed voters we have no matter who they vote for.

And in this country that's saying a lot considering the 25+ crowd isn't exactly well informed either.

But if you're expecting the "ignorant so they vote for Democrats line..." you came to the wrong post.

Fark is one of the websites that highlights the precious snow flakes entitlement mentality and people with an entitlement mentality will generally vote for Democrats. There was no better example of this than when they talked to a bunch of college/just out of college students about why they didn't have health insurance. The almost universal answer was "We shouldn't have to pay for that!"

It would take too much out of their precious 'entertainment' expenses.

So yes, the 18-24 year old crowd is entitled and wants to live a consequence free life style where they are taken care of by the government. How nice.

So... vote Republican?


What randomlibbyalt doesn't want to admit is, those "consequences", being "taken care of"?  They feel they;re entitled to such outlandish things as "responsible consumer protection laws", and "environmental regulations" that mean they can "swim in the nearby river without growing a third arm".  They feel like being free of the consequences of the financial sector wiping out their life savings, of not being persecuted because they don't have a Y chromosome and might need a medication for a part of their internal system that happens to also function for reproduction, of having their financial stability wiped out by the cost of getting treated for a medical debilitation.  Those people are such moochers.
 
2013-03-15 07:43:22 AM  
"Millenial" here. Don't know what yolo is, nor do I want to cut entitlements.
 
2013-03-15 07:46:46 AM  
What this reporter is leaving out is a lot of '80s kids are much more receptive to single payer. We have this neighbor to the North that's gotten along just fine with it for decades now. Institute that and there's no need for Medicare or Medicaid.
 
2013-03-15 07:48:24 AM  
The derp is strong in this thread.
 
2013-03-15 07:49:08 AM  
So swag is like the old swag? pirate treasure.
Fiscal policy is so boring. SS, medicare, a bankrupt system that's totally farked.                                      Would someone just end the drug war, like now.
 
2013-03-15 07:53:48 AM  

StopKing: So swag is like the old swag? pirate treasure.
Fiscal policy is so boring. SS, medicare, a bankrupt system that's totally farked.                                      Would someone just end the drug war, like now.


Hey, look who's still parroting bullsh*t about Social Security.

Why Social Secruity Cannot Go Bankrupt
 
2013-03-15 07:54:53 AM  

Abacus9: Allow me to adjust my onion belt while I explain what's REALLY wrong with Gen Y. It's their music. In my day we had real music: grunge. Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Smashing Pumpkins (whiny emo shoegaze grunge, but still alright when Billy Corgan wasn't raggin' it). Nirvana and Pearl Jam were never truly grunge by the way. Nowadays we got what? Fun., Death Cab for Curie? All garbage. I still listen to grunge while I rock my ripped jeans, flannel shirt over an old and faded black rock T-shirt (not a "tee" by the way) and stomp my Doc Martens to the beat of whatever Candlebox tune happens to be playing (on CD, no ipod) on my tiny little $15 boombox from Meijer. And I ain't gonna be outshined by no lousy Millenial.


Cool story bro. I can't tell if you're serious though. Tell me what the difference is between your self described persona and the old, wrinkly bleach blond haired weirdos who can't get enough of 80s hair metal? You basically chugged all the kool aid from the 90s that you could get your hands on.
 
2013-03-15 08:02:21 AM  
Teacher here.

Boomers have made an absolute mess of everything (obviously).  I long ago accepted that my generation (X) wasn't going to be able to fix it.  Not because we don't want to, but because the generation before us has complete political control over everything and our generation is too small to wrest it away from them.

I've always viewed generation X as a hold-the-wall group.  We just need to help keep the overwhelming pile of shiat from the Boomers from collapsing on everyone else -- our hope is that this will allow subsequent generations to start making repairs -- until the Boomers start disappearing.

Unfortunately, there's some things that have got me very worried...

1) Millenials don't know how to create anything.  All they do is use shiat.  You guys were supposed be computer geniuses.  Instead, you're mostly just tech fanboys.  Please, be chemists that create new stuff, not pathetic drug addicts.  Note: I partly blame the Evil Apple Empire for this.

2)  You suck at multi-tasking.  Don't take it too hard, everyone sucks at multi-tasking.  The problem is you _think_ you're good at multi-tasking -- and, if I haven't made this clear enough -- you're not.  Stop doing it and focus on one thing.  Because you suck when you split your attention.

3)  Kinda as an addedum to part I, you didn't have anything to do with the rise of Internet (except maybe that you use stuff that other people created on the Internet).  Now, go out and create something

Having said that, I do think the younger generations are crazy smart, and they're way more politically aware than I'd ever expected.  I do have a measure of faith that if we keep the Great Boomer Poo Pile at bay for a while longer, perhaps the Millenials will start actually building stuff.  But, I'm worried ...
 
2013-03-15 08:07:14 AM  
As a millennial (born '89) and apparently an echo-boomer (parents born in '51) I gotta tell you, this crap about what you guys perceive us as nothing but a bunch of whiny snowflakes that demand everything is a bit disingenuous.

The Gen. X'ers created the special snowflake syndrome, but we go to our parents for advice, not to fight our battles. Unlike you old, pissy guys, our parents actually offered advice and gave us methods as to how we should go about fixing the problem and not just tell us to "figure it out on your own"

There are a great deal of people in my generation that realize that Gen. X dropped the ball to fix the Boomer's mess, so instead of the generational task of fixing the previous generation's mistakes, we now have the monumental task of doing what the Gen X'ers botched and fix the problems that are now engrained in the system.

Millennials are very much open minded, very secular in general, and still see the world with a bit of naivety as to how we can perfect it, and there's nothing wrong with it. We want to fix the world. We want to take command of our own lives. We want to fix what hasn't been fixed. You're seeing that transition worldwide. Look at the failed green revolution in Iran in 2009, the Arab Spring revolutions, the calls for reform in Europe. The Occupy Wall St. movement. You guys farked us all over and we're fighting back. There are real problems and the millennials are the ones willing to fight to fix it.

Are we idealistic? Yes, but idealism is how we progress as a species. Idealism is what it takes to push a country forward. And I'm sorry if the years of working in the corporate world has made you disillusioned with what it takes to be idealistic, I'm sorry if you've given up on what it takes to get all of us, all of us, to the place we need to be at, but if you're not willing to care about anyone else but yourselves, and if you're not willing to give a damn about anyone including yourself, then it's time that a generation takes up the mantle of social and economic change for the better. It's my generation that has to live with your mistakes and if we resent you for it, so be it, but we're gonna be the ones that fix the crap so that future generations don't have to live with failures of the Baby Boomers and the apathy of the Gen X'ers
 
2013-03-15 08:11:25 AM  

ChickenMcBastard: I have no expectation for SS to exist by the time I retire (around 65...probably a little longer) and  have no gripes about raising the SS retirement age, limiting the annual benefit increase percentage


Then Pete Peterson's multi-billion dollar propoganda campaign is working.

The only way SS benefits go away or turn into useless pocket change is if we let them. The program is as strong as it's support. Right now that's pretty f*cking strong. But if enough people internalize what they hear from Joe Scarborough and the Washington Post day-in and day-out it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Don't fall for it.
 
2013-03-15 08:17:26 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Perhaps we are on the cusp of the Republican Party falling apart and and whatever emerges from the ashes will be a great force for progress.


Led by farkers like you and me.

...okay me at least

/vote Somedude/UNC_Samurai '36
 
2013-03-15 08:20:21 AM  
I was born in 84 and will admit to a lot of snowflakeism within my age group. However, like every other generation that has crapped on this earth, there are exceptions and the exceptions typically shine and take the leadership roles. I'm all about caring for one another without enabling a culture of freebies. I'm also about hard work and not expecting anything from others.
We all know life isn't fair but I've noticed, even with people who are 5 years younger than me, a sense of entitlement that totally baffles me. If they make it through an interview (and that's a BIG if) and do the bare minimum of their job description they want a farking trophy and a pat on the back. "hey boss, I made it to work today, aren't you proud?" Not sure whats going on here but I suspect it's got a lot to do with the end of competition in school and the participation medal crowd.
 
2013-03-15 08:24:57 AM  
Life isn't fair.
Life will never be fair.
Life sucks get a helmet....but then again there's always Jesus, he seems pretty cool.
 
2013-03-15 08:36:03 AM  
literally every generation in history has seen the next younger generation as out of control entitled "precious snowflakes" including the generation that came before you. yes you. hth
 
2013-03-15 08:45:36 AM  
I feel like this Op-Ed piece puts waaaaay too much faith in those idiots.  They just want everyone to be dtf so they can spend less on molly and take pictures of it.
 
2013-03-15 08:45:47 AM  

Sneakernets: I'll say a few things about the millenials. They gave us Occupy. Percent lingo is what made a campaign and broke another.


So shiatting on cop cars and rape free tents are now gifts? Jealousy of others hard work is not a good thing.
 
2013-03-15 08:45:57 AM  
We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese!
 
2013-03-15 08:48:33 AM  

deanis: You basically chugged all the kool aid from the 90s that you could get your hands on


WRONG.  Ecto-cooler HiC.
 
2013-03-15 08:50:06 AM  

somedude210: but we're gonna be the ones that fix the crap so that future generations don't have to live with failures of the Baby Boomers and the apathy of the Gen X'ers


You better start by cleaning out the house and senate of the hair dyed fossilized career politicians

/what ever hapened to By the people, for the people, of the people?
 
2013-03-15 08:50:45 AM  

kimmygibblershomework: I feel like this Op-Ed piece puts waaaaay too much faith in those idiots.  They just want everyone to be dtf so they can spend less on molly and take pictures of it.


are you sure you're not looking at teenagers and seeing teenagers acting like teenagers?
 
2013-03-15 08:52:48 AM  
i.dailymail.co.uk
Save us, saggy, droopy-drawered person, you're our only hope!
 
2013-03-15 08:52:57 AM  
www.thatericalper.com

/oblig?
 
2013-03-15 08:53:27 AM  

Joe Blowme: Sneakernets: I'll say a few things about the millenials. They gave us Occupy. Percent lingo is what made a campaign and broke another.

So shiatting on cop cars and rape free tents are now gifts? Jealousy of others hard work is not a good thing.


You didn't do hard work alone. EVERYBODY deserves credit for any hard work that was done, especially the people who were stressed out by the fact that you were doing hard work and they weren't, because they knew you would resent them slacking off while you worked.

/Galt didn't put that metal in the ground! What's so great about him digging it up and making factories out of it?
//But sir, the metal was always there... why didn't somebody other than Galt make factories out of it?
///Well... because GALT CHEATED! He stole from us the inventions that were ours by birthright!
 
2013-03-15 08:54:37 AM  

Farce-Side: deanis: You basically chugged all the kool aid from the 90s that you could get your hands on

WRONG.  Ecto-cooler HiC.


HiC ftw, also had this...

www.bigbadtoystore.com
 
2013-03-15 08:55:58 AM  
 
2013-03-15 08:56:02 AM  

deanis: Farce-Side: deanis: You basically chugged all the kool aid from the 90s that you could get your hands on

WRONG.  Ecto-cooler HiC.

HiC ftw, also had this...

[www.bigbadtoystore.com image 320x240]


This was one of my favorites:

ebid.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-03-15 08:57:32 AM  
Dumb article, from a liberal rag, makes no sense.

Kids vote for Obama because they have been indoctrinated all their lives in public schools. More and more of their parents are non-working scumbags. They want free stuff, and everyone should pay taxes but them. That is how young people thing, period. Lazy, entitled, spoiled little bastards that would just assume shoot up a school as get a job.
 
2013-03-15 08:57:34 AM  

Joe Blowme: You better start by cleaning out the house and senate of the hair dyed fossilized career politicians


Already planning that.

Joe Blowme: /what ever hapened to By the people, for the people, of the people?


it took a brief hibernation but don't worry, we're bringing it back
 
2013-03-15 08:58:06 AM  

L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.


Pretty much been our spot since the start. The trough between two massive waves of suck.
 
2013-03-15 08:59:42 AM  

Thunderpipes: Kids vote for Obama because they have been indoctrinated all their lives in public schools. More and more of their parents are non-working scumbags. They want free stuff, and everyone should pay taxes but them. That is how young people thing, period. Lazy, entitled, spoiled little bastards that would just assume shoot up a school as get a job.


I'm gonna hope you're trolling, but I'm gonna assume you're just an idiot. You have no idea what my generation is like. You only know what your generation tells you about what people like me are all about.

/and you wonder why we stick you in old-folks homes
 
2013-03-15 09:00:19 AM  
I'm a gen-xer and I teach at a university- a very large one- so I have a lot of contact with the 18-24 yo crowd. You know what? They're great. They're mostly pleasant, smart (well...at least a standard distribution applies), and contrary to what everyone says, I do not get the impression that they feel entitled. Some do, of course, but every generation has those. Yes, they are ambitious, they have unrealistic expectations and they're totally unprepared. But seriously- who ever had everything figured out at 23? I trust them more than I trust the boomers not to totally fark everything up when they get to the point where they're running things.

But you never know, do you? Ideals and intentions are wonderful, until you realize that nothing is ever easy, nothing is cut and dried, and what once looked like tractable solutions to untenable situations are, in reality, too hopelessly simple for the incredible complexity of the problem.
 
2013-03-15 09:03:18 AM  

Thunderpipes: Dumb article, from a liberal rag, makes no sense.

Kids vote for Obama because they have been indoctrinated all their lives in public schools. More and more of their parents are non-working scumbags. They want free stuff, and everyone should pay taxes but them. That is how young people thing, period. Lazy, entitled, spoiled little bastards that would just assume shoot up a school as get a job.


You sir are perhaps the single biggest troll on Fark. Go yell at another cloud, asshole.
 
2013-03-15 09:04:03 AM  

Sgygus: According to generational theory, the Millennials are supposed to be a civic-minded cohort (like the 'greatest generation') that will work together for the common good.

Sounds good in theory, I hope it comes to pass.


As a millenial, all I can say is we (probably) can't screw things up worse than the boomers who are currently in power.  Might as well let us try.
 
2013-03-15 09:04:04 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x1050]
Save us, saggy, droopy-drawered person, you're our only hope!


That look went out of style in the eighties.  Who wears a hoodie that says "Fink Rolfpin" anymore.  Seriously.
 
2013-03-15 09:04:18 AM  

somedude210: Thunderpipes: Kids vote for Obama because they have been indoctrinated all their lives in public schools. More and more of their parents are non-working scumbags. They want free stuff, and everyone should pay taxes but them. That is how young people thing, period. Lazy, entitled, spoiled little bastards that would just assume shoot up a school as get a job.

I'm gonna hope you're trolling, but I'm gonna assume you're just an idiot. You have no idea what my generation is like. You only know what your generation tells you about what people like me are all about.

/and you wonder why we stick you in old-folks homes


Did you vote for Obama? Then I know exactly what you are about, punish hard work, reward laziness with money in exchange for a vote.
 
2013-03-15 09:04:29 AM  
i50.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-15 09:07:41 AM  

verbaltoxin: StopKing: So swag is like the old swag? pirate treasure.
Fiscal policy is so boring. SS, medicare, a bankrupt system that's totally farked.                                      Would someone just end the drug war, like now.

Hey, look who's still parroting bullsh*t about Social Security.

Why Social Secruity Cannot Go Bankrupt


Which basically says something we all agree on: Social Security can't go bankrupt without destroying the economy and our system of government.

/problem is, that's not the same as "impossible"
//and to the Millennials, destroying an economy that expects people to work to support it and a government that was invented by boring dead racist white guys makes it a win-win situation
 
2013-03-15 09:08:31 AM  

Tatterdemalian: Joe Blowme: Sneakernets: I'll say a few things about the millenials. They gave us Occupy. Percent lingo is what made a campaign and broke another.

So shiatting on cop cars and rape free tents are now gifts? Jealousy of others hard work is not a good thing.

You didn't do hard work alone. EVERYBODY deserves credit for any hard work that was done, especially the people who were stressed out by the fact that you were doing hard work and they weren't, because they knew you would resent them slacking off while you worked.

/Galt didn't put that metal in the ground! What's so great about him digging it up and making factories out of it?
//But sir, the metal was always there... why didn't somebody other than Galt make factories out of it?
///Well... because GALT CHEATED! He stole from us the inventions that were ours by birthright!


Sounds about right
 
2013-03-15 09:09:25 AM  

Thunderpipes: Did you vote for Obama? Then I know exactly what you are about, punish hard work, reward laziness with money in exchange for a vote.


Hahahahaha, yes that's why those red states have some of the highest welfare recipients, right? Those are just filled with democrats, right?

You know who takes in the highest amount of welfare? White, trailer-trash yokels from the deep south. You got a problem with those who want government money, then look to your own voter pool.

but explain to me how I am punishing hard work? Are you saying that 52% of the people in this country don't work? That's a vastly different unemployment number than what actually exists.
 
2013-03-15 09:09:31 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Sgygus: According to generational theory, the Millennials are supposed to be a civic-minded cohort (like the 'greatest generation') that will work together for the common good.

Sounds good in theory, I hope it comes to pass.

As a millenial, all I can say is we (probably) can't screw things up worse than the boomers who are currently in power.  Might as well let us try.


You are barely literate (how are our schools doing?). You cannot do anything without an IPhone/pad/tampon. You have no discipline, no honor, and you envy anyone who made money, want to see them fall. You take no responsibility for your actions at all. In short, you will fail, and drag the entire country down with you. When you cannot find a job after college, you will blame Bush, still. When the national debt is 150% of GDP around 2025, you will blame Bush. When my son, who is not yet 2, goes to college and the country is in shambles, I will rightly blame you.
 
2013-03-15 09:10:30 AM  
Prank Call of Cthulhu:
Save us, saggy, droopy-drawered person, you're our only hope!

He is Canadian so no elected office for the Beib
 
2013-03-15 09:15:21 AM  
"The millennial Generation Can Lead Us Out of Gridlock"

That's some nice wishful thinking you got there.

The whole party over country, North Vs. South, Red Team Vs. Blue Team mentality isn't going away anytime soon.
 
2013-03-15 09:16:04 AM  
They'll turn out fine, except for the ones that don't.  Just like we did.
 
2013-03-15 09:19:58 AM  
S'funny... most of the people I hear damning the millenials for "swag" and "YOLO" are from the same generation that invented AOL-speak.

/not that "swag" and "YOLO" aren't incredibly stupid
//just seems like kind of a broad brush, you know?
 
2013-03-15 09:20:38 AM  
I thought "swag" meant bad grass.  Oh wait, that's "schwag", isn't it.

Thunderpipes: spoiled little bastards that would just assume shoot up a school as get a job.


Nice eggcorn there, pal.  Too bad about the rest of your post.

/"just as soon"
 
2013-03-15 09:21:41 AM  
I really dislike articles that draw most of their philosophical and political inferences from the stuff people buy and the websites they use.
 
2013-03-15 09:22:44 AM  
Ask a young kids today, what should be done with the debt, and if it is important.

They don't care. They cannot understand the concept. They want free stuff now, and screw everyone else. They listen to Obama, believe the BS, and are a drag on society. They have never even been backhanded for their attitude. No wonder they think they deserve everything given to them. After all, they get trophies for showing up.
 
2013-03-15 09:23:00 AM  
Whenever I think of the Millenials taking over this quote pops up in my head

Richard Vernon: You think about this: when you get old, these kids - when *I* get old - they're going to be running the country.
Carl: Yeah.
Richard Vernon: Now this is the thought that wakes me up in the middle of the night. That when I get older, these kids are going to take care of me.
Carl: I wouldn't count on it.
 
2013-03-15 09:23:42 AM  

L.D. Ablo: Look, I don't hate Millennials. Most are friendly and have some good qualities. They want to please people, are almost never racist or homophobic, care deeply, and want to do the right thing.

The problem is that Millennials have had endless adult supervision and always have an authority figure to appeal to. I grew up with free-range children and my parents were happy when i wasn't around. Fistfights didn't bring the police and were a way to settle problems.

DDOS attacks and Reddit butthurt won't change anything. It's going to be dirty and bloody.


I think you might be surprised at how willing this "millennial" generation will be in another 8 to 10 years to just burn the whole damn world down.  The one thing I've noticed about them, and you have echoes of it in your assessment, is this weird balance of patience beyond measure, and astounding impatience.  Things moved *very* fast for anyone born after about 1982.  On the one hand, this gives kids growing up in that period a perspective that is encouraged about the possibility of changing from one day to the next, but discouraged about the possibility of changing overall.

You look at the Occupy business, and you can get all hoity toy and say they didn't accomplish anything (I'd disagree but that's besides the point).  But they stuck it out in the cold when people said they'd go crying home.  They got pepper sprayed, kicked, hit with shiat and the entire time people said they were stupid, made up lies about them, complained about their lack of structure.  And they never cowed to those complaints, fought all the lies publicly until it was clear they weren't going to get a fair shake and then retreated back to the internet to organize there.

I see a generation that isn't afraid to get its hands dirty.  A generation that is willing to share and develop ideas and get creative.  And despite your concerns, a generation that has no qualms about sticking their necks out.

Of course, we also see a generation that is being portrayed, as all that came before it were portrayed, as weak, disorganized, frivolous, directionless, feckless, fools who don't know how good they've got it.

/I subscribe to the generational cycle theory.
//And the millennials happen to be just in time to be the Heroes.
 
2013-03-15 09:26:30 AM  

Tatterdemalian: You didn't do hard work alone. EVERYBODY deserves credit for any hard work that was done, especially the people who were stressed out by the fact that you were doing hard work and they weren't, because they knew you would resent them slacking off while you worked.

/Galt didn't put that metal in the ground! What's so great about him digging it up and making factories out of it?
//But sir, the metal was always there... why didn't somebody other than Galt make factories out of it?
///Well... because GALT CHEATED! He stole from us the inventions that were ours by birthright!


Riiiiiiiiiiight... so did Galt mine the ore, refine the metal, mold the parts, transport the parts to the site, draw up the blueprints, construct the buildings, construct the blueprints, design the products, assemble the products, market the products, and deliver the products all by himself, without using anything anybody else had made?

/and since we're on the subject, the fact that Rand had to have Galt invent a freaking perpetual motion machine to make the plot work should tell you how unrealistic it is.
 
2013-03-15 09:26:53 AM  

randomjsa: 18-24 year old people remain some of the most ignorant and under informed voters we have no matter who they vote for.

And in this country that's saying a lot considering the 25+ crowd isn't exactly well informed either.

But if you're expecting the "ignorant so they vote for Democrats line..." you came to the wrong post.

Fark is one of the websites that highlights the precious snow flakes entitlement mentality and people with an entitlement mentality will generally vote for Democrats. There was no better example of this than when they talked to a bunch of college/just out of college students about why they didn't have health insurance. The almost universal answer was "We shouldn't have to pay for that!"

It would take too much out of their precious 'entertainment' expenses.

So yes, the 18-24 year old crowd is entitled and wants to live a consequence free life style where they are taken care of by the government. How nice.


I work full time, spend $30 at most on entertainment each month, and am living paycheck to paycheck largely because I have enormous medical bills.

It could be that I favor "socialized" medicine because I see firsthand that our current system hurts the working class and is untenable in the long term. However, so long as you can "stick it to the libs", I doubt you care about reality.
 
2013-03-15 09:28:04 AM  

Thunderpipes: Ask a young kids today, what should be done with the debt, and if it is important.

They don't care. They cannot understand the concept. They want free stuff now, and screw everyone else. They listen to Obama, believe the BS, and are a drag on society. They have never even been backhanded for their attitude. No wonder they think they deserve everything given to them. After all, they get trophies for showing up.


You started out strong, but now you're just kind of mailing it in, basically repeating the same points.  You can do better than this.  I believe in you.
 
2013-03-15 09:36:34 AM  

Oldiron_79: L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

This


www.people-press.org
www.pewresearch.org

Yeah, you guys sure have had a good track record.
 
2013-03-15 09:36:38 AM  
Interesting article.  I fall at the very beginning of the millennials or the very end of the Xs.

The millennials definitely have a better chance at changing things than the Xs.  The Xs are too self-absorbed about how they got screwed by the boomers (they did) to be able to do much good.  They've spent their entire lives waiting for the boomers to get out of the way so they can have their piece of the pie.

The millennials that are significantly younger than me are still too young to really know what impact they'll have, but they realize that the great government social contract is not necessarily ironclad, which leaves them trying to bake their own pie rather than trying to get a piece of the boomer's pie.  They've shown innovation and networking that is greater than anything the Xs have achieved.

I'm not sure that they'll actually change anything, but they're probably the best bet at this point.
 
2013-03-15 09:37:04 AM  

Farce-Side: Thunderpipes: Ask a young kids today, what should be done with the debt, and if it is important.

They don't care. They cannot understand the concept. They want free stuff now, and screw everyone else. They listen to Obama, believe the BS, and are a drag on society. They have never even been backhanded for their attitude. No wonder they think they deserve everything given to them. After all, they get trophies for showing up.

You started out strong, but now you're just kind of mailing it in, basically repeating the same points.  You can do better than this.  I believe in you.


No you don't. Lies....

I have a 19 month old son. I know he will suffer terribly when he becomes a man and goes to college and try to get a job. National debt will be Greece levels or worse. White male, so he will be discriminated against wherever he goes. He will come of age in a world where most of the country is on welfare, living off loans from other countries. This is not rhetoric, but actual mathematically projected stuff. That is what pisses me off most about you liberals. Numbers staring you in the face, you just don't care even a little. 10 farking trillion in new debt from one President, with bad unemployment/underemployment and economic growth, and you all just sing praises. You seem like a cult. That directly hurts my child's future.
 
2013-03-15 09:37:21 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x1050]
Save us, saggy, droopy-drawered person, you're our only hope!


It's pretty obvious that guy is addicted to drugs.
 
2013-03-15 09:43:30 AM  

Thunderpipes: Ask a young kids today, what should be done with the debt, and if it is important.

They don't care. They cannot understand the concept. They want free stuff now, and screw everyone else. They listen to Obama, believe the BS, and are a drag on society. They have never even been backhanded for their attitude. No wonder they think they deserve everything given to them. After all, they get trophies for showing up.


Know how I know you've never asked that to a millennial? First off, we do care about the debt and deficit, we also care about your wellbeing, even if you are a crochity old bastard who could care less about us. We want you to not die in bankruptcy, but we know we can fix these problems, not destroy the country and still make sure we help the people who need the help, something you seem to not care about.

Also, if we listen to Obama and believe Obama, then wouldn't the logic hold that we care about the budget, we care about the economy and we care about making sure that we all have an opportunity to get a job (notice I did not say we automatically have a job, just the opportunity for it...ah screw it, you're gonna ignore that anyway). So if we're listening to Obama, as you say, then how can we do that and not care about the country, the debt or the massive burden you're giving us to deal with?

You guys farked us over, own up to it and fix it before you reach your deathbed. If you don't want to do that, then shut the fark up and let us work.
 
2013-03-15 09:45:15 AM  

HeartBurnKid: Tatterdemalian: You didn't do hard work alone. EVERYBODY deserves credit for any hard work that was done, especially the people who were stressed out by the fact that you were doing hard work and they weren't, because they knew you would resent them slacking off while you worked.

/Galt didn't put that metal in the ground! What's so great about him digging it up and making factories out of it?
//But sir, the metal was always there... why didn't somebody other than Galt make factories out of it?
///Well... because GALT CHEATED! He stole from us the inventions that were ours by birthright!

Riiiiiiiiiiight... so did Galt mine the ore, refine the metal, mold the parts, transport the parts to the site, draw up the blueprints, construct the buildings, construct the blueprints, design the products, assemble the products, market the products, and deliver the products all by himself, without using anything anybody else had made?

/and since we're on the subject, the fact that Rand had to have Galt invent a freaking perpetual motion machine to make the plot work should tell you how unrealistic it is.


Nope, Galt didn't do everything by himself... and never claimed to. Which was also the point, as only by accusing him of thinking he did could he be properly demonized, by people who needed to justify hating him even though his only crime was being successful.
 
2013-03-15 09:46:28 AM  

randomjsa: 18-24 year old GOP supporting, Faux Nooz™ people remain some of the most ignorant and under informed voters we have no matter who they vote for.

And in this country that's saying a lot considering the 25+ crowd isn't exactly well informed either.

But if you're expecting the "ignorant so they vote for Democrats line..." you came to the wrong post.

Fark is one of the websites that highlights the precious snow flakes entitlement mentality and people with an entitlement mentality will generally vote for Democrats. There was no better example of this than when they talked to a bunch of college/just out of college students about why they didn't have health insurance. The almost universal answer was "We shouldn't have to pay for that!"

It would take too much out of their precious 'entertainment' expenses.

So yes, the 18-24 year old crowd is entitled and wants to live a consequence free life style where they are taken care of by the government. How nice.


FT
 
2013-03-15 09:46:30 AM  

Thunderpipes: HMS_Blinkin: Sgygus: According to generational theory, the Millennials are supposed to be a civic-minded cohort (like the 'greatest generation') that will work together for the common good.

Sounds good in theory, I hope it comes to pass.

As a millenial, all I can say is we (probably) can't screw things up worse than the boomers who are currently in power.  Might as well let us try.

You are barely literate (how are our schools doing?). You cannot do anything without an IPhone/pad/tampon. You have no discipline, no honor, and you envy anyone who made money, want to see them fall. You take no responsibility for your actions at all. In short, you will fail, and drag the entire country down with you. When you cannot find a job after college, you will blame Bush, still. When the national debt is 150% of GDP around 2025, you will blame Bush. When my son, who is not yet 2, goes to college and the country is in shambles, I will rightly blame you.


Spew all the BS you've heard on Fox News about my generation, but in reality right wingers are just scared stiff from the demographic changes barreling towards their ideology like a freight train. My generation has access to more information and alternative viewpoints, we decreasingly believe the garbage we were told as kids and still told on TV as the country falls apart around us thanks to the decisions of the Greediest Generation. The ones that gave us Reagan, Dubya, a bubble economy with the biggest crash since the Great Depression, and a planet whose climate is spinning of of control thanks to decades of abusing energy resources.

My generation will not be kind to our predecessors. We are all too well aware of the choices they made, and the state of the world we are inheriting.
 
2013-03-15 09:48:10 AM  

somedude210: if we listen to Obama and believe Obama, then wouldn't the logic hold that we care about the budget,


Not really, no. I like it better earlier when yo said you would kick all their asses out, then you went full obama.... never go full obama

No balanced budget
 
2013-03-15 09:50:03 AM  
You know what's great, the boomers were the "free love/hippy" society who, when given the reigns to the country went so hard to the right they took the country off a cliff. This generation protested the Vietnam war but then couldn't wait to send everyone's kids off to fight brown people in the sand if it made their portfolios go up a few percentage points.

It's been the the X'ers, Y'ers and Millennials who have been the catalysts for change that the Boomers only pretended they were in the 60's and 70's.

Boomers are the most useless godawful generation in modern history.
 
2013-03-15 09:52:19 AM  
jesus it's like you people have never seen tp post before
 
2013-03-15 09:53:48 AM  

Joe Blowme: somedude210: if we listen to Obama and believe Obama, then wouldn't the logic hold that we care about the budget,

Not really, no. I like it better earlier when yo said you would kick all their asses out, then you went full obama.... never go full obama

No balanced budget


It's folks like you who will be left behind. We need infrastructure repairs and upgrades, moves to new forms of energy, downscaling of our foreign military exploits, and ways to get millions of aging boomers and their kids healthcare that won't bankrupt them. That sh*t ain't cheap. But keep f*cking that chicken.
 
2013-03-15 09:53:57 AM  

Zeno-25: Thunderpipes: HMS_Blinkin: Sgygus: According to generational theory, the Millennials are supposed to be a civic-minded cohort (like the 'greatest generation') that will work together for the common good.

Sounds good in theory, I hope it comes to pass.

As a millenial, all I can say is we (probably) can't screw things up worse than the boomers who are currently in power.  Might as well let us try.

You are barely literate (how are our schools doing?). You cannot do anything without an IPhone/pad/tampon. You have no discipline, no honor, and you envy anyone who made money, want to see them fall. You take no responsibility for your actions at all. In short, you will fail, and drag the entire country down with you. When you cannot find a job after college, you will blame Bush, still. When the national debt is 150% of GDP around 2025, you will blame Bush. When my son, who is not yet 2, goes to college and the country is in shambles, I will rightly blame you.

Spew all the BS you've heard on Fox News about my generation, but in reality right wingers are just scared stiff from the demographic changes barreling towards their ideology like a freight train. My generation has access to more information and alternative viewpoints, we decreasingly believe the garbage we were told as kids and still told on TV as the country falls apart around us thanks to the decisions of the Greediest Generation. The ones that gave us Reagan, Dubya, a bubble economy with the biggest crash since the Great Depression, and a planet whose climate is spinning of of control thanks to decades of abusing energy resources.

My generation will not be kind to our predecessors. We are all too well aware of the choices they made, and the state of the world we are inheriting.


Of course you won't, you are bad people. You shoot up schools, don't want to work, and want to steal from those that do. You are too stupid to even understand economics, let alone get a job.

Thank you for making my point for me, scum.

Greediest generation? That is you, douchebag.
 
2013-03-15 09:56:42 AM  

Joe Blowme: somedude210: if we listen to Obama and believe Obama, then wouldn't the logic hold that we care about the budget,

Not really, no. I like it better earlier when yo said you would kick all their asses out, then you went full obama.... never go full obama

No balanced budget


so he wants to work on an actual budget that reduces the deficit but doesn't balance it? You understand that if we balance the budget, and have a "Real" balanced budget, we'd have no defense, right?

You can balance the budget, but it's more complicated than that. There are a lot of economic factors that come into play, the least of which is what will happen when you cut what needs to be cut to balance a $4T budget, or you end up raising taxes so high that you have unrest.

There's also the smart way of going about things too, where you gradually draw down the budget over the span of years, while also raising revenue. We did it in the 90s to get the Clinton surplus, we can do it again now

/if we didn't care about the budget, why do we care that the other guys started two unfunded wars that got the debt to where it is?
 
2013-03-15 09:57:47 AM  
 Why are you people even responding to TP?
 
2013-03-15 09:58:09 AM  

Joe1549: Born in '85, not slacking just annoyed.

I swear, when I was young I thought life would be fun. Maybe I watched too many cartoons, but I knew that we certainly were not working as hard as we did in the early 19th century. We've made too many gains since then. The "Great Society" was not supposed to be temporary. We should still be enlightening others, but we first need to enlighten ourselves.

Productivity per hour is not human, it is the life of a machine. Too many people think we need to work hard, when really the problem is hoarding. As I try to buy a house, a responsible action, what do I see? People with more money just buying the property with cash. Where does that leave me?

Our income inequality is a real issue. I hope we can address it. If we are to be the world's first nation. Then we should express it.

Where does that leave us? Are we the spokesmen for the future? What about adults? They have no stake in what happens?

People are so tribalistic, we need to put aside those differences and work together to achieve a greater life. Guess what? We don't know if there's an afterlife. We do know there is this life. So lets start acting like it and get our act together.



I think the point here is, how can we get away with calling the Millennials lazy and whatnot when they haven't had the chance to do anything?  They came of age when Bush and his buddies were in power, they fought in our stupid wars, went to college on loans with the promise that if they worked hard they'd earn a career, and now they're sitting smack dab in the middle of the worst economic time for anyone who isn't a Wall Street insider since the days when my grandparents were born.  Whatever jobs that haven't been shipped overseas or dumped on the other workers are being held by older people who are working longer than ever.

What the hell else would you expect???
 
2013-03-15 09:59:35 AM  

Zeno-25: Thunderpipes: HMS_Blinkin: Sgygus: According to generational theory, the Millennials are supposed to be a civic-minded cohort (like the 'greatest generation') that will work together for the common good.

Sounds good in theory, I hope it comes to pass.

As a millenial, all I can say is we (probably) can't screw things up worse than the boomers who are currently in power.  Might as well let us try.

You are barely literate (how are our schools doing?). You cannot do anything without an IPhone/pad/tampon. You have no discipline, no honor, and you envy anyone who made money, want to see them fall. You take no responsibility for your actions at all. In short, you will fail, and drag the entire country down with you. When you cannot find a job after college, you will blame Bush, still. When the national debt is 150% of GDP around 2025, you will blame Bush. When my son, who is not yet 2, goes to college and the country is in shambles, I will rightly blame you.

Spew all the BS you've heard on Fox News about my generation, but in reality right wingers are just scared stiff from the demographic changes barreling towards their ideology like a freight train. My generation has access to more information and alternative viewpoints, we decreasingly believe the garbage we were told as kids and still told on TV as the country falls apart around us thanks to the decisions of the Greediest Generation. The ones that gave us Reagan, Dubya, a bubble economy with the biggest crash since the Great Depression, and a planet whose climate is spinning of of control thanks to decades of abusing energy resources.

My generation will not be kind to our predecessors. We are all too well aware of the choices they made, and the state of the world we are inheriting.


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA Obama has outspent every potus COMBINED!! on his way to adding 10 trillion in 8 years to the debt. you owe me a keyboard. How about you try to focus on cleaning out the current nest of criminals do like somedude210
 
2013-03-15 09:59:35 AM  
My father is the computer programmer and foreman over half of my former high school classmates in a machine manufacturing plant in my home town.

He said he's never worked with such a group of whiny pussies in his whole life.  They're 33 years old.  They're "owed" that paycheck, and working harder is a hilarious idea.  Recently, they've converted to a non-smoking facility to help keep everyone's health care premiums down, and the Righteous Rage of Entitlement for that all-important smoke break 50 times a day almost sent them to a city-wide revolution.

/Dad is old-school and crusty.  I love him for it.
 
2013-03-15 09:59:41 AM  

rtaylor92: You know what's great, the boomers were the "free love/hippy" society who, when given the reigns to the country went so hard to the right they took the country off a cliff. This generation protested the Vietnam war but then couldn't wait to send everyone's kids off to fight brown people in the sand if it made their portfolios go up a few percentage points.


Just wait for the Occupy society to do the same thing.  It will happen.
 
2013-03-15 10:00:32 AM  
Rage much, Thunderpipes? The future you've created for yourselves is still barreling down at you. Blaming people who have been on the Earth a fraction of the time as people such as yourself would be funny if it didn't reek of the pure malice of the 'fark you got mine' generation.
 
2013-03-15 10:00:48 AM  

Tatterdemalian: HeartBurnKid: Tatterdemalian: You didn't do hard work alone. EVERYBODY deserves credit for any hard work that was done, especially the people who were stressed out by the fact that you were doing hard work and they weren't, because they knew you would resent them slacking off while you worked.

/Galt didn't put that metal in the ground! What's so great about him digging it up and making factories out of it?
//But sir, the metal was always there... why didn't somebody other than Galt make factories out of it?
///Well... because GALT CHEATED! He stole from us the inventions that were ours by birthright!

Riiiiiiiiiiight... so did Galt mine the ore, refine the metal, mold the parts, transport the parts to the site, draw up the blueprints, construct the buildings, construct the blueprints, design the products, assemble the products, market the products, and deliver the products all by himself, without using anything anybody else had made?

/and since we're on the subject, the fact that Rand had to have Galt invent a freaking perpetual motion machine to make the plot work should tell you how unrealistic it is.

Nope, Galt didn't do everything by himself... and never claimed to. Which was also the point, as only by accusing him of thinking he did could he be properly demonized, by people who needed to justify hating him even though his only crime was being successful.


You certainly implied he did everything by himself in your post, but that's besides the point.

So what do you call someone who takes from the labors of others, and then gets up and runs away when it's time for him to give back?
 
2013-03-15 10:03:25 AM  

verbaltoxin: Joe Blowme: somedude210: if we listen to Obama and believe Obama, then wouldn't the logic hold that we care about the budget,

Not really, no. I like it better earlier when yo said you would kick all their asses out, then you went full obama.... never go full obama

No balanced budget

It's folks like you who will be left behind. We need infrastructure repairs and upgrades, moves to new forms of energy, downscaling of our foreign military exploits, and ways to get millions of aging boomers and their kids healthcare that won't bankrupt them. That sh*t ain't cheap. But keep f*cking that chicken.


You kow, when your generation finally grows up you will realize the problem with your thinking is eventually you will run out of other peoples money.

/Math, how does it work?
 
2013-03-15 10:03:48 AM  

Blink: Teacher here.

Boomers have made an absolute mess of everything (obviously).  I long ago accepted that my generation (X) wasn't going to be able to fix it.  Not because we don't want to, but because the generation before us has complete political control over everything and our generation is too small to wrest it away from them.

I've always viewed generation X as a hold-the-wall group.  We just need to help keep the overwhelming pile of shiat from the Boomers from collapsing on everyone else -- our hope is that this will allow subsequent generations to start making repairs -- until the Boomers start disappearing.

Unfortunately, there's some things that have got me very worried...

1) Millenials don't know how to create anything.  All they do is use shiat.  You guys were supposed be computer geniuses.  Instead, you're mostly just tech fanboys.  Please, be chemists that create new stuff, not pathetic drug addicts.  Note: I partly blame the Evil Apple Empire for this.

2)  You suck at multi-tasking.  Don't take it too hard, everyone sucks at multi-tasking.  The problem is you _think_ you're good at multi-tasking -- and, if I haven't made this clear enough -- you're not.  Stop doing it and focus on one thing.  Because you suck when you split your attention.

3)  Kinda as an addedum to part I, you didn't have anything to do with the rise of Internet (except maybe that you use stuff that other people created on the Internet).  Now, go out and create something

Having said that, I do think the younger generations are crazy smart, and they're way more politically aware than I'd ever expected.  I do have a measure of faith that if we keep the Great Boomer Poo Pile at bay for a while longer, perhaps the Millenials will start actually building stuff.  But, I'm worried ...


^^^ Much agreed. Est 1980 here, and I plan to hold. But I have friends my age and older who are lost in their phones all the time. Live, in person interfacing with another person is a dying art. I can't converse with you when you're checking your email or updating your status or checking in or whatever the heck you're doing.

Being a KV reader since age 12, and a very big William Gibson and PKD fan, I am excited to live in the future. But Blink is correct, we can only hold so long.
 
2013-03-15 10:04:27 AM  

HeartBurnKid: Tatterdemalian: HeartBurnKid: Tatterdemalian: You didn't do hard work alone. EVERYBODY deserves credit for any hard work that was done, especially the people who were stressed out by the fact that you were doing hard work and they weren't, because they knew you would resent them slacking off while you worked.

/Galt didn't put that metal in the ground! What's so great about him digging it up and making factories out of it?
//But sir, the metal was always there... why didn't somebody other than Galt make factories out of it?
///Well... because GALT CHEATED! He stole from us the inventions that were ours by birthright!

Riiiiiiiiiiight... so did Galt mine the ore, refine the metal, mold the parts, transport the parts to the site, draw up the blueprints, construct the buildings, construct the blueprints, design the products, assemble the products, market the products, and deliver the products all by himself, without using anything anybody else had made?

/and since we're on the subject, the fact that Rand had to have Galt invent a freaking perpetual motion machine to make the plot work should tell you how unrealistic it is.

Nope, Galt didn't do everything by himself... and never claimed to. Which was also the point, as only by accusing him of thinking he did could he be properly demonized, by people who needed to justify hating him even though his only crime was being successful.

You certainly implied he did everything by himself in your post, but that's besides the point.

So what do you call someone who takes from the labors of others, and then gets up and runs away when it's time for him to give back?


Obama of a golf trip?
 
2013-03-15 10:05:42 AM  

Thunderpipes: Of course you won't, you are bad people. You shoot up schools, don't want to work, and want to steal from those that do. You are too stupid to even understand economics, let alone get a job.

Thank you for making my point for me, scum.

Greediest generation? That is you, douchebag.


You sure about that? You guys are the ones who came up with the "I got mine, fark you" mindset. So how does that make us the "greediest generation"? We would like to help everyone. We're the stupid idealists that see what you guys gave us and want to fix it for the good of everyone, not just our own.

We do want to work, that was one of the many reasons of the Occupy movement. We want to work so we can pay off our debts from schooling. We want to work so we can pay for healthcare, so that we can own our own place, so we can start a family, so we can live our lives. We want to work, I don't understand what part of that you don't understand. We understand economics, we understand you've screwed us over with this "trickle-down" nonsense and we know we need to fix your shiat before we can advance.

Thank you for proving you have no idea what the fark you're talking about, scum
 
2013-03-15 10:08:36 AM  

HeartBurnKid: So what do you call someone who takes from the labors of others, and then gets up and runs away when it's time for him to give back?


a baby boomer?
 
2013-03-15 10:09:52 AM  
Ugh... i can't believe you people don't have Thundercoont on ignore yet...

Seriously... he's a troll... i thought everyone knew this by now...

The biggest reason we Gen-Xers didn't get it fixxed is because the boomers are OUR parents... they raised us the think their way is the right way, that we should be grateful, nay, thanking them, for blessing this world with not only their presence, but that we should be grateful they decided to bring us into the world to bask in their glory...

We grew up witnessing their greed first hand... We were told "go to college and get an education, it's the only way you'll ever be successful". then we did, and we entered the work force, and instead of those greedy bastards retiring when we came in, they exploited our generation and our generation's possibilities to further their own gains and set themselves up with the top level positions.

"Look at all the gen-x coming in with bachelor's degrees, new ideas, and high hopes... this threatens our jobs because we worked from entry level to ceo without a degree and here they all come with a working knowledge, better credentials, and ambition to take my job... fark that, we've built this life for ourselves and now that generation thinks they are going to come in with their college education and take it from us? fark that, and fark them, those are our kids, and no kid of mine..."

That's something our generation heard a lot by the way "No kid of mine..."

They indoctrinated us to thinking that everything in the world was theirs, "This is my house", "You are only here because I allow it"... they expected our generation to worship them and their bank accounts, and the possessions they collected... "Look at this antique record player i found in your grandmother's basement, it's worth $10,000 and it's mine, and if i catch you anywhere near it..."

So yeah, we gen-x grew up a little bitter about it, it showed in the music of our generation... Dark, Grunge with little hope of the future because the old guard refuses to step down because they are addicted to their stuff, and their money...
 
2013-03-15 10:10:02 AM  

Joe Blowme: You kow, when your generation finally grows up you will realize the problem with your thinking is eventually you will run out of other peoples money.

/Math, how does it work?


yes, totally. You really understand how we work, how economics work and clearly an entire generation doesn't want to work. I tip my hat to you

/dumbass
 
2013-03-15 10:21:13 AM  

somedude210: Joe Blowme: You kow, when your generation finally grows up you will realize the problem with your thinking is eventually you will run out of other peoples money.

/Math, how does it work?

yes, totally. You really understand how we work, how economics work and clearly an entire generation doesn't want to work. I tip my hat to you

/dumbass


Great, now we have that cleared up can we agree all politicians are self serving jackasses that only care about themselves and we need term limits for all elected positions? If you doubt this, research how many millions the have now compared to when they took office? No way all of them are that lucky or good of investors, something stinks in DC and its past time to clean it out.

/bless your heart
Benny Franklin was a wise man...
//A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.
///Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.
 
2013-03-15 10:24:33 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x1050]
Save us, saggy, droopy-drawered person, you're our only hope!


I read on here someone wrote "Beiber, stop walking like an ape" and I had no idea what they were talking about.

So, I guess this is a thing, huh?
 
2013-03-15 10:27:20 AM  

Joe1549: Born in '85, not slacking just annoyed.

I swear, when I was young I thought life would be fun. Maybe I watched too many cartoons, but I knew that we certainly were not working as hard as we did in the early 19th century. We've made too many gains since then. The "Great Society" was not supposed to be temporary. We should still be enlightening others, but we first need to enlighten ourselves.

Productivity per hour is not human, it is the life of a machine. Too many people think we need to work hard, when really the problem is hoarding. As I try to buy a house, a responsible action, what do I see? People with more money just buying the property with cash. Where does that leave me?

Our income inequality is a real issue. I hope we can address it. If we are to be the world's first nation. Then we should express it.

Where does that leave us? Are we the spokesmen for the future? What about adults? They have no stake in what happens?

People are so tribalistic, we need to put aside those differences and work together to achieve a greater life. Guess what? We don't know if there's an afterlife. We do know there is this life. So lets start acting like it and get our act together.


You are an adult, so make a change. Listen, I ws born in '85 as well. I have a wonderful wife, 2 beautiful sons, own a home, boat, cabin and work in a pretty good job. I hear others mention entitlement... I never finished high school, joined the military, fought across the world, took night classes for the last 6 months of my contract so I could go back to college. I bought crappy houses that were worth pretty much nothing, worked at nights to fix them and then sold them for a profit. I have worked very very hard to have what I do. Life is gloomy if you choose to see it that way, but is the best adventure imaginable.

And YOLO is true. It's a cheesy fad, but it's true. This is all we have, this is it. My greatest fear is being old and thinking that I wasted my time on earth. I'm sure I'm not alone in that fear.
 
2013-03-15 10:31:29 AM  
Gotta love Thunderpipes.

"Your generation is f*cking awful and has no work ethic or sense of personal responsibility. Btw, you're also responsible for all of my problems and the inevitable failures of my children."
 
2013-03-15 10:33:09 AM  

Wendy's Chili: Gotta love Thunderpipes.

"Your generation is f*cking awful and has no work ethic or sense of personal responsibility. Btw, you're also responsible for all of my problems and the inevitable failures of my children."


I kinda want to sponsor him to troll TF with a troll

/meta-trolling
 
2013-03-15 10:39:14 AM  

Thunderpipes: Farce-Side: Thunderpipes: Ask a young kids today, what should be done with the debt, and if it is important.

They don't care. They cannot understand the concept. They want free stuff now, and screw everyone else. They listen to Obama, believe the BS, and are a drag on society. They have never even been backhanded for their attitude. No wonder they think they deserve everything given to them. After all, they get trophies for showing up.

You started out strong, but now you're just kind of mailing it in, basically repeating the same points.  You can do better than this.  I believe in you.

No you don't. Lies....

I have a 19 month old son. I know he will suffer terribly when he becomes a man and goes to college and try to get a job. National debt will be Greece levels or worse. White male, so he will be discriminated against wherever he goes. He will come of age in a world where most of the country is on welfare, living off loans from other countries. This is not rhetoric, but actual mathematically projected stuff. That is what pisses me off most about you liberals. Numbers staring you in the face, you just don't care even a little. 10 farking trillion in new debt from one President, with bad unemployment/underemployment and economic growth, and you all just sing praises. You seem like a cult. That directly hurts my child's future.


More like your kid will be hurt by your extremely off kilter world view.
 
2013-03-15 10:40:49 AM  

robohobo: buckler: "YOLO" I know, but what the hell is "Swag"?

/old

Faux gold teef and expensive sneakers. White chicks with extensions and whore makeup. Clothes with gigantic brand names on them.  Bieber. That ugly black chick on Idol. Money for things, yet clamoring about The Man.


Ah. I'd assumed it was another acronym for something. Thx.
 
2013-03-15 10:42:46 AM  

pciszek: They seem to be less interested in cars and guns, willing to move back into the cities, think its hip to bicycle around, have invented things like craigslist,


Um, about that...

Craig Alexander Newmark (born 6 December 1952) is an American Internet entrepreneur best known for being the founder of the San Francisco-based international website Craigslist. [wikipedia]
 
2013-03-15 10:43:06 AM  

somedude210: Wendy's Chili: Gotta love Thunderpipes.

"Your generation is f*cking awful and has no work ethic or sense of personal responsibility. Btw, you're also responsible for all of my problems and the inevitable failures of my children."

I kinda want to sponsor him to troll TF with a troll

/meta-trolling


I've got him marked as King Troll. He is truly remarkable.
 
2013-03-15 11:05:30 AM  
It's funny when people blame the economic woes on Millenials for believing in President Obama when Obama is a Boomer himself. Doesn't that make it the Boomers' fault?
 
2013-03-15 11:10:58 AM  

buckler: robohobo: buckler: "YOLO" I know, but what the hell is "Swag"?

/old

Faux gold teef and expensive sneakers. White chicks with extensions and whore makeup. Clothes with gigantic brand names on them.  Bieber. That ugly black chick on Idol. Money for things, yet clamoring about The Man.

Ah. I'd assumed it was another acronym for something. Thx.


It's short for "swagger", but seems to be used for much the same thing as what "bling bling" used to be used for.
 
2013-03-15 11:23:44 AM  

Oakenhelm: It's funny when people blame the economic woes on Millenials for believing in President Obama when Obama is a Boomer himself. Doesn't that make it the Boomers' fault?


Obama is not a Boomer.  He's right in the transition between Boomer and X and his mentality is far more X than Boomer.  I think they call it Generation Jones, or something.  I don't consider him a true Gen Xer, but if you read The Audacity of Hope, he clearly does not think like a Boomer.
 
2013-03-15 11:28:27 AM  
So to summarize this thread my generation was awesome but these kids today suck.
 
2013-03-15 11:39:44 AM  
There are many milestones in your life that remind you that you're getting older.  One key milestone is when you realize that your generation wasn't nearly as transformational as you thought.  The system has a way of taking your generations perceived strengths and turning them into tools of control.  Gen X saw the excesses of the Boomers and decided to combat the system by opting out.  Everything became a joke.  Nothing was to be taken seriously.  Your status in society was measured by how many sacred cows you slaughtered.  We thought that by mocking the system that we would take away its power.  Instead, the system turned our own cynicism against us.  It gave us Howard Stern and The Daily Show and South Park.  It bombarded us with shock jock tactics to the point where we became incapable of being shocked by even the most horrific of abuses.  It used our iconoclasm to tear down social barriers and traditions that had become inconvenient to the system.  By the time we figured out what was happening, we were buried in student loan debt and underwater mortgages and had no choice but to surrender to the system.

Our only consolation is that the Millennials have already been co-opted and they don't even realize it.  They brag about being the most wired-in generation in history and they don't even realize that they had to give up the last vestiges of privacy to achieve that.  You are now nothing more than a data point in the cloud.  Your every move is tracked, tagged and analyzed.  They know more about you than you know about yourself.  They don't even need your name because they can figure out everything about you just by analyzing your Facebook posting and Amazon shopping habits.  They gave you these awesome devices that promised to democratize humanity and instead they shuttle you off into your own isolated corner of reality where everyone agrees with you and you never have to be challenged to think.  Hundreds of thousands of useful man hours have been diverted into captioning pictures of cats and killing each other in Call of Duty.  They track your every movement and use such sophisticated methods of manipulation that you don't even realize how little freedom of choice you actually have.  They have created a system of control that George Orwell in his wildest dreams could not have imagined, and they never fired a shot.

Take consolation though.  The next generation is on their way up and they'll fall into the same traps the rest of us did.  At least you'll be able to laugh at them.
 
2013-03-15 11:43:22 AM  
And their music! It's just noise!
 
2013-03-15 12:06:20 PM  

buckler: Ah. I'd assumed it was another acronym for something. Thx.


In the circles I socialize in, "swag" either stands for "Scientific Wild-Ass Guess" or refers to the tacky free stuff you can acquire at trade shows and professional conferences, like a bottle opener with a company logo on it or a baby sweatshirt that says "Dependent Variable".
 
2013-03-15 12:11:23 PM  

randomjsa: 18-24 year old people remain some of the most ignorant and under informed voters we have no matter who they vote for.

And in this country that's saying a lot considering the 25+ crowd isn't exactly well informed either.

But if you're expecting the "ignorant so they vote for Democrats line..." you came to the wrong post.

Fark is one of the websites that highlights the precious snow flakes entitlement mentality and people with an entitlement mentality will generally vote for Democrats. There was no better example of this than when they talked to a bunch of college/just out of college students about why they didn't have health insurance. The almost universal answer was "We shouldn't have to pay for that!"

It would take too much out of their precious 'entertainment' expenses.

So yes, the 18-24 year old crowd is entitled and wants to live a consequence free life style where they are taken care of by the government. How nice.


I'm on the high end of that generation, morsel the ones they didn't know what to with, so they dumped us with the twerps coming out of high school. I'm pro-socialized medicine, anti SS, pro equal rights, pro hate crime laws(which doesn't make everything prejudiced or a hate crime), etc. No, I have never felt entitled to a thing, moved out at 18(unlike my Xer brother). No assistance, lived, worked, dug myself a hole or twelve and climbed out on my own. Now, I have free healthcare and college because I put my time in and get to deal with the VA. So to say we're entitled or, better yet, "snowflakes" does us a gross injustice.
 
2013-03-15 12:13:27 PM  

Mentat: There are many milestones in your life that remind you that you're getting older.  One key milestone is when you realize that your generation wasn't nearly as transformational as you thought.  The system has a way of taking your generations perceived strengths and turning them into tools of control.  Gen X saw the excesses of the Boomers and decided to combat the system by opting out.  Everything became a joke.  Nothing was to be taken seriously.  Your status in society was measured by how many sacred cows you slaughtered.  We thought that by mocking the system that we would take away its power.  Instead, the system turned our own cynicism against us.  It gave us Howard Stern and The Daily Show and South Park.  It bombarded us with shock jock tactics to the point where we became incapable of being shocked by even the most horrific of abuses.  It used our iconoclasm to tear down social barriers and traditions that had become inconvenient to the system.  By the time we figured out what was happening, we were buried in student loan debt and underwater mortgages and had no choice but to surrender to the system.

Our only consolation is that the Millennials have already been co-opted and they don't even realize it.  They brag about being the most wired-in generation in history and they don't even realize that they had to give up the last vestiges of privacy to achieve that.  You are now nothing more than a data point in the cloud.  Your every move is tracked, tagged and analyzed.  They know more about you than you know about yourself.  They don't even need your name because they can figure out everything about you just by analyzing your Facebook posting and Amazon shopping habits.  They gave you these awesome devices that promised to democratize humanity and instead they shuttle you off into your own isolated corner of reality where everyone agrees with you and you never have to be challenged to think.  Hundreds of thousands of useful man hours have been diverted into ca ...


I've had you favorited for a long time without a title. You have given me a title "Gen X's George Orwell"

that is a depressing thing to read
 
2013-03-15 12:16:41 PM  

robohobo: Born in '79.

Consider myself Gen Y.

/as in why bother?


I was made to understand they trashed Y in favor of Millennial.
 
2013-03-15 12:17:49 PM  
 
2013-03-15 12:18:41 PM  
Should have put NSFW language on that, sorry.

/But it's Carlin, you should have known that already
 
2013-03-15 12:30:52 PM  

Peki: xria: dickfreckle: Gen X here ( I guess - am 38). Even from a younger age I felt that I was going to bear the weight of fixing this bullsh*t. My parents and their friends basically handed us a flaming paper bag of turd and laughed at us.

So you are to blame for everything not being fixed already, slacker?

'83 here. I didn't expect everything to be fixed, but was it really too much to ask the previous generations not to break everything? Case in point is my father. My paternal grandparents were depression babies. By the time my grandfather died in 2003, he was a millionaire and left the wealth in a trust for his two grandkids (my bro and me). Less than 4 years later, my father had spent everything AND put us more than 300K in the hole by taking out an equity loan on a house that was paid off. Then he nearly lost the house three times because he took an ARM from Countrywide.

The Boomer generation has always been about "instant gratification takes too long." I seriously hope my generation takes a good hard look and learns a lesson or two.


Are you me?

That is literally almost my exact same story.  It took my dad a few years longer to go broke, and my grandfather died in 04, but my dad literally leveraged any and every asset he could, built a mountain of debt for himself, and are currently fighting the mortgage thing with the house, and my mom is leaving him for making them broke.  Thankfully their not at the point my brother and I have to bail them out of financial binds yet, though my mom is moving in with my wife and I once the divorce is final and the house is gone/sold whatever happens.

\The only thing I see the boomers as is a cautionary tale.
\\We grew up in Boca Raton, FL, so there was a serious amount of keeping up with the Joneses/maintaining an image of success going on too.
\\\Slashies come in threes.
 
2013-03-15 12:36:26 PM  

Kurmudgeon: L.D. Ablo: The Boomers are fat and happy old and increasingly feeble and are not going to change their ways.

There comes a time that blaming the same old people becomes pointless.
Also, Boomer bashers generally tend to be balding 30 something wimps.
Quit whining and pull up your damn pants.


It's always comforting to have someone to blame.   Apparently, all baby-boomers were straight, white, males who simply breezed through life selfishly ruining things FOREVER.
 
2013-03-15 12:37:09 PM  
The author makes a great point about the younger kids being willing to "go around" governmental solutions.

csb/

A few years ago, when I lived in a different state, I saw a neighborhood kid (about 20 years old) on a Sunday morning with a bunch of his friends outside. They were gathering around with a bunch of rakes and garbage bags, and looked ready to do some kind of work. So I say "Hey, Brandon! What's going on?" He tells me "I've been calling the parks department for months to clean up the trash in _local park_, and they never do anything. So we're going to do it ourselves. Do you wanna help?" I say "Sure I do! Lemme make a few calls, I bet I can get twice the people you have now."

So, we went to the park, cleaned up all the garbage: beer cans, broken fishing equipment, all kinds of stuff. It took us about three hours, but we had that place spotless and we had a great time doing it. Went to the local pizza joint afterwards, and were treated to lunch by the owner who liked what we had done. (The park was across the street from his restaurant, and he invited us all over when he saw what we were doing.)

Perhaps shamed, the parks department took better care of the place after that, the lazy bastards.

/end csb

tl;dr - Don't junk up our public spaces, and if you see someone else's trash, pick it up.
 
2013-03-15 12:44:22 PM  

CeroX: The biggest reason we Gen-Xers didn't get it fixxed is because the boomers are OUR parents...


Not sure if serious?   Way to take responsibility for your life, Sparky!
 
2013-03-15 01:01:40 PM  

Thunderpipes: I have a 19 month old son. I know he will suffer terribly when he becomes a man and goes to college and try to get a job. National debt will be Greece levels or worse. White male, so he will be discriminated against wherever he goes. He will come of age in a world where most of the country is on welfare, living off loans from other countries. This is not rhetoric, but actual mathematically projected stuff. That is what pisses me off most about you liberals. Numbers staring you in the face, you just don't care even a little. 10 farking trillion in new debt from one President, with bad unemployment/underemployment and economic growth, and you all just sing praises. You seem like a cult. That directly hurts my child's future.


It is going to be HILARIOUS when your son grows up, becomes liberal, maybe falls in love with another man, and then disappears from your life because your outdated, paranoid, xenophobic political and social ideals embarrass and offend him.

The best part will be that he'll probably be posting on FARK under the handle "Liberal Son of Thunderpipes".
 
2013-03-15 01:06:10 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Thunderpipes: I have a 19 month old son. I know he will suffer terribly when he becomes a man and goes to college and try to get a job. National debt will be Greece levels or worse. White male, so he will be discriminated against wherever he goes. He will come of age in a world where most of the country is on welfare, living off loans from other countries. This is not rhetoric, but actual mathematically projected stuff. That is what pisses me off most about you liberals. Numbers staring you in the face, you just don't care even a little. 10 farking trillion in new debt from one President, with bad unemployment/underemployment and economic growth, and you all just sing praises. You seem like a cult. That directly hurts my child's future.

It is going to be HILARIOUS when your son grows up, becomes liberal, maybe falls in love with another man, and then disappears from your life because your outdated, paranoid, xenophobic political and social ideals embarrass and offend him.

The best part will be that he'll probably be posting on FARK under the handle "Liberal Son of Thunderpipes".


www.thestate.ae
 
2013-03-15 01:06:19 PM  

SharpieIncident: My father is the computer programmer and foreman over half of my former high school classmates in a machine manufacturing plant in my home town.

He said he's never worked with such a group of whiny pussies in his whole life.  They're 33 years old.  They're "owed" that paycheck, and working harder is a hilarious idea.  Recently, they've converted to a non-smoking facility to help keep everyone's health care premiums down, and the Righteous Rage of Entitlement for that all-important smoke break 50 times a day almost sent them to a city-wide revolution.

/Dad is old-school and crusty.  I love him for it.


People still smoke? Weird.
 
2013-03-15 01:10:09 PM  

Graffito: Kurmudgeon: L.D. Ablo: The Boomers are fat and happy old and increasingly feeble and are not going to change their ways.

There comes a time that blaming the same old people becomes pointless.
Also, Boomer bashers generally tend to be balding 30 something wimps.
Quit whining and pull up your damn pants.

It's always comforting to have someone to blame.   Apparently, all baby-boomers were straight, white, males who simply breezed through life selfishly ruining things FOREVER.


That's OK, because all Gen-Xers and Millenials are lazy slackers who have never done a day of work in their lives and want everything handed to them on a silver platter.
 
2013-03-15 01:16:14 PM  
Alphakronik: Coming from a group of people who can't seem to figure out that your pants don't need to cover your belly button.

Grow up, twerp.


What, 40 isn't old enough for you?
 
2013-03-15 01:22:20 PM  

Craptastic: The author makes a great point about the younger kids being willing to "go around" governmental solutions.

csb/

A few years ago, when I lived in a different state, I saw a neighborhood kid (about 20 years old) on a Sunday morning with a bunch of his friends outside. They were gathering around with a bunch of rakes and garbage bags, and looked ready to do some kind of work. So I say "Hey, Brandon! What's going on?" He tells me "I've been calling the parks department for months to clean up the trash in _local park_, and they never do anything. So we're going to do it ourselves. Do you wanna help?" I say "Sure I do! Lemme make a few calls, I bet I can get twice the people you have now."

So, we went to the park, cleaned up all the garbage: beer cans, broken fishing equipment, all kinds of stuff. It took us about three hours, but we had that place spotless and we had a great time doing it. Went to the local pizza joint afterwards, and were treated to lunch by the owner who liked what we had done. (The park was across the street from his restaurant, and he invited us all over when he saw what we were doing.)

Perhaps shamed, the parks department took better care of the place after that, the lazy bastards.

/end csb

tl;dr - Don't junk up our public spaces, and if you see someone else's trash, pick it up.


Generational theory explains this as the byproduct of a generation of "nomads" who have deep seated distrust for institutions.  Gen X came of age between the cold war and the culture wars, both byproducts themselves of the Awakening which left America feeling strong enough to do anything we wanted after WWII.  Gen X's cynicism led them, generally speaking, to become detached, individualistic, and withdrawn as much from society as possible.  This manifests as disinterest in civics and a lack of social conscience.  What's good for me is good for society, and if everyone felt that way, we'd all be doing ok.

This time of cynical withdrawal and disaffected individualism leads to a democratic crisis which is the environment this generation of Millennials grew up in.

Whereas Gen X's cynicism and distrust of the system led them to draw away from it and fall in on themselves, it leads the subsequent generation to just take action outright.  It's been really interesting to watch these kids try and navigate the absolute shiatshow that the system became in the absence of an engaged populace.
 
2013-03-15 01:25:25 PM  

Graffito: CeroX: The biggest reason we Gen-Xers didn't get it fixxed is because the boomers are OUR parents...

Not sure if serious?   Way to take responsibility for your life, Sparky!


when was the last time you went behind your parents fixing their shiat?

I worry about my life, the life of my kids, and my future grandkids... the boomers typically don't give a shiat about future generations other than to exploit them of their money and livelyhoods...

I take responsibility for my life and for the lives of our future generations, i refuse to take responsibility for a generation that refused to heed the warning signs and the pleas of the people around them to not screw up...
 
2013-03-15 01:31:50 PM  

fatalvenom: ZeroCorpse: Thunderpipes: I have a 19 month old son. I know he will suffer terribly when he becomes a man and goes to college and try to get a job. National debt will be Greece levels or worse. White male, so he will be discriminated against wherever he goes. He will come of age in a world where most of the country is on welfare, living off loans from other countries. This is not rhetoric, but actual mathematically projected stuff. That is what pisses me off most about you liberals. Numbers staring you in the face, you just don't care even a little. 10 farking trillion in new debt from one President, with bad unemployment/underemployment and economic growth, and you all just sing praises. You seem like a cult. That directly hurts my child's future.

It is going to be HILARIOUS when your son grows up, becomes liberal, maybe falls in love with another man, and then disappears from your life because your outdated, paranoid, xenophobic political and social ideals embarrass and offend him.

The best part will be that he'll probably be posting on FARK under the handle "Liberal Son of Thunderpipes".

[www.thestate.ae image 480x360]


If my son was a gay liberal, at least I would die knowing he will be cared for and never have to work. Imagine all the free stuff he would get? And I would insist he be the best at it, be the best damned gay liberal he could be.
 
2013-03-15 02:12:11 PM  

L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.


I think you've confused 'millennials' with 'boomers' there.

/Sorry, which generation went out to create OWS even while the media was constantly deriding them and the police was repeatedly showing their willingness to use excessive force?
 
2013-03-15 02:16:25 PM  
These generational threads are really funny to me, because as a medievalist absolutely none of this is new to me.  In the early 1200s a professor from the University of Paris wrote a screed about "the kids these days," in which he complained about how they congregated in the streets chattering amongst themselves about nothing, how they didn't have the dedication to really learn Latin (and that all knowledge would therefore be lost), how their crazy new stylus and reusable writing tablet technology (I am not making this up) would teach them to be lazy and make mistakes, and how the whole future in general was doomed because they were lazy, error-prone, unaware, and lacking in the right values.
So enjoy your persistent traditions!  Although some of you just seem to be pissed that people born after you are younger and will live longer than you.  It hurts, I know, that the world won't end with you, but we'll manage on somehow.
 
2013-03-15 02:28:45 PM  

PsiChick: L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

I think you've confused 'millennials' with 'boomers' there.

/Sorry, which generation went out to create OWS even while the media was constantly deriding them and the police was repeatedly showing their willingness to use excessive force?


Speaking of taking credit... let's go with "more than one."

Table 2 shows that 24.4% of respondents were between the ages of 18 - 24 and another 37.9% were between the ages of 25 and 34. Close to 64.2% of respondents were younger than 34 years of age.
Over a third of respondents, or 35.8%, were older than 35 years of age including 10% over 54 years of age. While the sample is relatively young, one in three respondents is older than 35 and one in five
respondents is 45 and older.


/http://occupywallst.org/media/pdf/OWS-profile1-10-18-11-sent-v2-HRCG . pdf
 
2013-03-15 02:37:48 PM  

CeroX: when was the last time you went behind your parents fixing their shiat?


Every damn day.  It's called being an adult.  Your children will do the same.
 
2013-03-15 02:41:21 PM  

ProfessorOhki: PsiChick: L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

I think you've confused 'millennials' with 'boomers' there.

/Sorry, which generation went out to create OWS even while the media was constantly deriding them and the police was repeatedly showing their willingness to use excessive force?

Speaking of taking credit... let's go with "more than one."

Table 2 shows that 24.4% of respondents were between the ages of 18 - 24 and another 37.9% were between the ages of 25 and 34. Close to 64.2% of respondents were younger than 34 years of age.
Over a third of respondents, or 35.8%, were older than 35 years of age including 10% over 54 years of age. While the sample is relatively young, one in three respondents is older than 35 and one in five
respondents is 45 and older.

/http://occupywallst.org/media/pdf/OWS-profile1-10-18-11-sent-v2-HRCG . pdf


Oooh, how cool. You must have gotten so much blame for it too, right? During all the media hoopla, they were all yapping about those middle-aged parents and how they were destroying the country, right?

/You're proving  my point here, not yours.
 
2013-03-15 02:54:40 PM  

PsiChick: ProfessorOhki: PsiChick: L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

I think you've confused 'millennials' with 'boomers' there.

/Sorry, which generation went out to create OWS even while the media was constantly deriding them and the police was repeatedly showing their willingness to use excessive force?

Speaking of taking credit... let's go with "more than one."

Table 2 shows that 24.4% of respondents were between the ages of 18 - 24 and another 37.9% were between the ages of 25 and 34. Close to 64.2% of respondents were younger than 34 years of age.
Over a third of respondents, or 35.8%, were older than 35 years of age including 10% over 54 years of age. While the sample is relatively young, one in three respondents is older than 35 and one in five
respondents is 45 and older.

/http://occupywallst.org/media/pdf/OWS-profile1-10-18-11-sent-v2-HRCG . pdf

Oooh, how cool. You must have gotten so much blame for it too, right? During all the media hoopla, they were all yapping about those middle-aged parents and how they were destroying the country, right?

/You're proving  my point here, not yours.


It's funny you say "you," because I'm in the 37.9% group. But as they say around these parts, keep farking that chicken. Talking a multi-generational cause as if it was a single age group marginalizes it in the same way as the media you were complaining about did.
 
2013-03-15 02:59:52 PM  

ProfessorOhki: It's funny you say "you," because I'm in the 37.9% group. But as they say around these parts, keep farking that chicken. Talking a multi-generational cause as if it was a single age group marginalizes it in the same way as the media you were complaining about did.


...Look. My point here is that, in general, Boomers are more likely to be spoiled, whining biatches than MEs. You're defending them, so yeah, I'm going to assume that's who you are. And like I said, our generation went out, knowing that the cops were going to attack us, and tried to do something to fix what the prior generations screwed up--and as much as everyone appreciates the help from older generations, to turn around and say 'look what we did!' when you got none of the  blame, at least in this conversation, is just trying to piggyback on. If it were a different conversation, maybe not, but it isn't.
 
2013-03-15 03:00:26 PM  

L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.


Have you met GenX? They are far and away the more obnoxious generation. I'm kinda right on the line between them and Millenials, and while the young'uns can piss me off quite a bit, GenX is second only to baby boomers when it comes to whiny self-entitlement. Also, any problems with Millenials can generally be traced back to GenX.
 
2013-03-15 03:16:29 PM  
I'm at the front end of the Millennial generation (born in 1985). The stereotypes of my generation in the thread are absurdly inaccurate.

We're more technologically savvy, more open to new ideas, more tolerant of people and cultures, are over-burdened with debt because our ancestors spent all our money and realize that we must compete internationally against someone for a job in our own country. So while we are off fighting your wars in other countries, while we doing your shiatty jobs that can barely pay the bills (let alone student loans) and paying into retirement programs we'll never get to use ...the moment we complain that just maybe things are tilted a little against us, we're slapped down, arrested and told we're lazy morons.

Y'all can go fark yourselves....

i234.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-15 03:24:11 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: We're more technologically savvy, more open to new ideas, more tolerant of people and cultures, are over-burdened with debt because our ancestors spent all our money and realize that we must compete internationally against someone for a job in our own country. So while we are off fighting your wars in other countries, while we doing your shiatty jobs that can barely pay the bills (let alone student loans) and paying into retirement programs we'll never get to use ...the moment we complain that just maybe things are tilted a little against us, we're slapped down, arrested and told we're lazy morons.


89 here and THIS
 
2013-03-15 03:24:26 PM  

PsiChick: ProfessorOhki: It's funny you say "you," because I'm in the 37.9% group. But as they say around these parts, keep farking that chicken. Talking a multi-generational cause as if it was a single age group marginalizes it in the same way as the media you were complaining about did.

...Look. My point here is that, in general, Boomers are more likely to be spoiled, whining biatches than MEs. You're defending them, so yeah, I'm going to assume that's who you are. And like I said, our generation went out, knowing that the cops were going to attack us, and tried to do something to fix what the prior generations screwed up--and as much as everyone appreciates the help from older generations, to turn around and say 'look what we did!' when you got none of the  blame, at least in this conversation, is just trying to piggyback on. If it were a different conversation, maybe not, but it isn't.


I wasn't defending them, I was saying that OWS was addressing issues that span generations. I'm not a huge fan of theirs, but I'll certainly acknowledge that they highlighted some important issues. I don't think, "we get the blame, so we get the credit," is reasonable. Each deserves credit based on what they did, not based on what their detractors said about them. Otherwise, you're basically letting Fox News define who gets credit.
 
2013-03-15 03:29:31 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: I'm at the front end of the Millennial generation (born in 1985). The stereotypes of my generation in the thread are absurdly inaccurate.

We're more technologically savvy, more open to new ideas, more tolerant of people and cultures, are over-burdened with debt because our ancestors spent all our money and realize that we must compete internationally against someone for a job in our own country. So while we are off fighting your wars in other countries, while we doing your shiatty jobs that can barely pay the bills (let alone student loans) and paying into retirement programs we'll never get to use ...the moment we complain that just maybe things are tilted a little against us, we're slapped down, arrested and told we're lazy morons.

Y'all can go fark yourselves....

[i234.photobucket.com image 470x331]


You forget, we have also fought in war.

ProfessorOhki: OWS was addressing issues that span generations


OWS crowd has no more troubles or tribulations than any other generation had. The only difference is that they have the benefit of "Social networking", which leads to the (false) impression that they are correct out of sheer numbers. Hint: EVERY GENERATION OF 20 YEAR OLDS dealt with the same shiat. We just kept quiet about it, because no one would listen.
 
2013-03-15 03:37:46 PM  
Yogimus:

You forget, we have also fought in war.


And yet you sent us ... your sons and daughters into another one. And how did that work out for the MIGHTY United States of America? Trillions in debt, nations destroyed, thousands of Americans dead, hundreds of thousands of foreigners dead, more restrictions of personal freedoms and none of the money was spent on our educations, nothing was spent on the debt you put us in or the infrastructure and sustainability of our country.
 
2013-03-15 03:41:17 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: And yet you sent us ... your sons and daughters into another one. And how did that work out for the MIGHTY United States of America? Trillions in debt, nations destroyed, thousands of Americans dead, hundreds of thousands of foreigners dead, more restrictions of personal freedoms and none of the money was spent on our educations, nothing was spent on the debt you put us in or the infrastructure and sustainability of our country.


Same war, muffin.  I didn't see too many 20 year olds in congress on 2011.  (MATH IS HARD)  Veterans are coming home, and beginning their runs on government institutions. Another decade or so and the 80-s kids will be coming to power.  Judge us for that.

/unless you are another one of those farktards that believes all things they don't like are related
 
2013-03-15 03:42:03 PM  
2001 not 2011

/math IS hard
 
2013-03-15 03:45:19 PM  
I think the people born in the very late 70s to very early 90s (so like 78 - 92) will be the ones who will fix things. Mainly because we will have grown up just after the cynical Gen Xers but before the entitled millenials.
 
2013-03-15 04:17:41 PM  
Anybody else this opening line? "One the reasons"

Seriously, are we just not bothering to edit at ALL anymore?
 
2013-03-15 04:18:10 PM  
Yogimus:
Same war, muffin.  I didn't see too many 20 year olds in congress on 2011.  (MATH IS HARD)  Veterans are coming home, and beginning their runs on government institutions. Another decade or so and the 80-s kids will be coming to power.  Judge us for that.

/unless you are another one of those farktards that believes all things they don't like are related



I don't see Millennial military personnel leading the way for us getting into government. Especially when most of us don't want anything to do with the military, and in fact, want to see it drastically shrunk. My generation is far too weary of the old-guard-institutions. However, it would be nice to see a single Millennial in Congress. Someone to slap the budget and check books out of the current people's hands. My guess is that a more liberal area will be the first to do it. Any young person in a conservative area would have to have the same venom-rhetoric as the current batch of old congressmen, which would lose him his younger supporters that he'd need to win.

The biggest problem being that most of lives are documented. I mean, if I punched some kid back in 5th grade it was probably recorded and will then be brought out to show me as some sort of monster growing up. And we're not even getting into the things posted to Fark, Facebook, Youtube, etc. So the ones too boring and sheltered to win wouldn't have the personality and charisma to win, and the ones with a personality have too much of a tainted and documented past.
 
2013-03-15 04:18:34 PM  

lamecomedian: Anybody else this opening line? "One the reasons"

Seriously, are we just not bothering to edit at ALL anymore?


And of course, I make myself look like a jackarse straight off.

"Anybody else NOTICE this opening line?"
 
2013-03-15 04:23:17 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: The biggest problem being that most of lives are documented. I mean, if I punched some kid back in 5th grade it was probably recorded and will then be brought out to show me as some sort of monster growing up. And we're not even getting into the things posted to Fark, Facebook, Youtube, etc. So the ones too boring and sheltered to win wouldn't have the personality and charisma to win, and the ones with a personality have too much of a tainted and documented past.


I'm fully expecting to run for Congress and a porn my gf (now wife when I run) made is found and I'll just get up at the podium and say "yeah, I made a porn. You got a problem with seeing my cock? It's a cock, half of us have one. Stop being ashamed of yours" and then either whip it out or drop the mic and walk off

...actually, I'd love to see the generation that's gonna get into government (mine) slap people around who make a stink about sexuality.
 
2013-03-15 05:08:50 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: I don't see Millennial military personnel leading the way for us getting into government. Especially when most of us don't want anything to do with the military, and in fact, want to see it drastically shrunk. My generation is far too weary of the old-guard-institutions. However, it would be nice to see a single Millennial in Congress. Someone to slap the budget and check books out of the current people's hands. My guess is that a more liberal area will be the first to do it. Any young person in a conservative area would have to have the same venom-rhetoric as the current batch of old congressmen, which would lose him his younger supporters that he'd need to win.


I agree, but keep in mind that the min ages for congress are 25 and 30. With any luck, the next 5-10 years could be a pretty good shakeup. Well... as long as younger people actually bother to vote. Nothing in the political sphere pisses me off quite as much as the, "Both presidential candidates suck, so I didn't vote" crowd. Do they honestly not realize there's other things on those ballots?
 
2013-03-15 05:18:57 PM  

Yogimus: ProfessorOhki: OWS was addressing issues that span generations

OWS crowd has no more troubles or tribulations than any other generation had. The only difference is that they have the benefit of "Social networking", which leads to the (false) impression that they are correct out of sheer numbers. Hint: EVERY GENERATION OF 20 YEAR OLDS dealt with the same shiat. We just kept quiet about it, because no one would listen.


The young people of the 60s and 70s, of course, being forever remembered as particularly quiet with their stances on political issues, especially war.
 
2013-03-15 05:45:32 PM  

somedude210: kimmygibblershomework: I feel like this Op-Ed piece puts waaaaay too much faith in those idiots.  They just want everyone to be dtf so they can spend less on molly and take pictures of it.

are you sure you're not looking at teenagers and seeing teenagers acting like teenagers?

YOU are one of them.  Re-read my comment and then look at the buttfarking retarded shiate you wrote.  Dickface.  I love the lack of reading comprehension on this site so you are reminded why you posted the comment in the first place.
Some of em just want to fingerbang all day, others want to video that fingerbanging to brag to friends, and a third just wants to sit there and watch these idiots fingerbang or put ads in the webpage to pay for more fingerbanging videos.  You want us to put our money on the third guy?

We need another draft to thin the ranks out a bit.  Ya know, once they run out of gays and women getting killed.
 
2013-03-15 06:15:56 PM  

fatalvenom: ZeroCorpse: Thunderpipes: I have a 19 month old son. I know he will suffer terribly when he becomes a man and goes to college and try to get a job. National debt will be Greece levels or worse. White male, so he will be discriminated against wherever he goes. He will come of age in a world where most of the country is on welfare, living off loans from other countries. This is not rhetoric, but actual mathematically projected stuff. That is what pisses me off most about you liberals. Numbers staring you in the face, you just don't care even a little. 10 farking trillion in new debt from one President, with bad unemployment/underemployment and economic growth, and you all just sing praises. You seem like a cult. That directly hurts my child's future.

It is going to be HILARIOUS when your son grows up, becomes liberal, maybe falls in love with another man, and then disappears from your life because your outdated, paranoid, xenophobic political and social ideals embarrass and offend him.

The best part will be that he'll probably be posting on FARK under the handle "Liberal Son of Thunderpipes".

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2013-03-15 06:28:38 PM  

ProfessorOhki: The young people of the 60s and 70s, of course, being forever remembered as particularly quiet with their stances on political issues, especially war.


Those bastards figured it out, and VOTED.
 
2013-03-15 07:44:31 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: We're more technologically savvy, more open to new ideas, more tolerant of people and cultures, are over-burdened with debt because our ancestors spent all our money and realize that we must compete internationally against someone for a job in our own country. So while we are off fighting your wars in other countries, while we doing your shiatty jobs that can barely pay the bills (let alone student loans) and paying into retirement programs we'll never get to use ...the moment we complain that just maybe things are tilted a little against us, we're slapped down, arrested and told we're lazy morons.

Y'all can go fark yourselves....


Funny, that's exactly what my generation was saying in 1998.
 
2013-03-15 08:01:17 PM  
IMO the current school age generation is far more compassionate than their predecessors.  Probably not as motivated to achieve, but more apt to get along.  The intelligence gap is wider between students; there are still exceptional kids and poor performers, but they are not as likely be found in the same classroom like they were 20 years ago.
 
2013-03-15 11:45:16 PM  

kimmygibblershomework: YOU are one of them.  Re-read my comment and then look at the buttfarking retarded shiate you wrote.  Dickface.  I love the lack of reading comprehension on this site so you are reminded why you posted the comment in the first place.
Some of em just want to fingerbang all day, others want to video that fingerbanging to brag to friends, and a third just wants to sit there and watch these idiots fingerbang or put ads in the webpage to pay for more fingerbanging videos.  You want us to put our money on the third guy?

We need another draft to thin the ranks out a bit.  Ya know, once they run out of gays and women getting killed.


....you just went on a rant about teenagers fingerbanging. Did you not get any as a teenager? Teens do stupid shiat. and that third guy filming this fingerbanging fiasco and making money? Is he not a job creator? You're paying for the shiat, he's making money, teen 1 and female teen 1 are both going at it because it's fun to fark and you have a problem with this why? Teens have sex, every generation's teens have had sex when they were teens.

A draft may be a good idea if you're at the top of the list. Those that piss you off go last. Why? Because life is cruel and you should've figured that out by now. We need less dumbasses like you creating laws and governing because your mindset is what has farked us over for the last 50 years
 
2013-03-16 01:20:55 AM  

HellRaisingHoosier: I'm at the front end of the Millennial generation (born in 1985). The stereotypes of my generation in the thread are absurdly inaccurate.

We're more technologically savvy, more open to new ideas, more tolerant of people and cultures, are over-burdened with debt because our ancestors spent all our money and realize that we must compete internationally against someone for a job in our own country. So while we are off fighting your wars in other countries, while we doing your shiatty jobs that can barely pay the bills (let alone student loans) and paying into retirement programs we'll never get to use ...the moment we complain that just maybe things are tilted a little against us, we're slapped down, arrested and told we're lazy morons.

Y'all can go fark yourselves....

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What's funny is that every single thing you see Gen-Xers saying about Millenials here is all the same shiat Boomers said about Gen-Xers.  And it was just as untrue then.  But people never learn.

Every generation since the second has been the end of civilization.  And yet, it rarely happens.
 
2013-03-16 01:54:01 AM  
Thats just, like, your opinion, man.

/Whatever

//Gen x
 
2013-03-16 03:06:55 AM  

HeartBurnKid: Every generation since the second has been the end of civilization.  And yet, it rarely happens.


Except when it does. A la the Great Recession.

/false equivalency is false
 
2013-03-16 04:11:54 AM  

Peki: the Great Recession.


Not getting the job you WANT =/= no work available. You would be surprised what happens when you are willing to move states.
 
2013-03-16 06:11:32 AM  
No way we can fail as bad as the baby boomers, so I'm not worried too much. Are you guys still fighting the culture wars? Gen X just needs to admit that my generation isn't that far off from theirs, we are basically a spin off.
 
2013-03-16 09:55:12 AM  

Peki: HeartBurnKid: Every generation since the second has been the end of civilization.  And yet, it rarely happens.

Except when it does. A la the Great Recession.

/false equivalency is false


Which is neither the end of civilization nor the Millennials' fault.
 
2013-03-16 10:38:21 AM  

TheJoe03: No way we can fail as bad as the baby boomers, so I'm not worried too much. Are you guys still fighting the culture wars? Gen X just needs to admit that my generation isn't that far off from theirs, we are basically a spin off.


How again did the baby boomers fail?  Please be specific.
I mean, the cold war is over.  Civil rights for women and minority men are now the norm.  Baby boomer engineers built the internet. Those are hardly failures.
 
2013-03-16 11:14:33 AM  
Witness the failure of Obama's great work.  Yet another entry into a system of lifelong paw hand outs, living in government supplied housing, and further draining our struggling healthcare system, without any hope of independence or becoming something better.  This is truly the liberal paradise - entitlement from birth.
 
2013-03-16 11:29:01 AM  
Wrong thread.  Sowwy.
 
2013-03-16 11:52:27 AM  

Yogimus: Peki: the Great Recession.

Not getting the job you WANT =/= no work available. You would be surprised what happens when you are willing to move states.


Moving requires capital and a job. Most jobs I saw aren't paying relocation. North Dakota is great but has no housing that's affordable.

That said, there are a lot of other reasons why I'm stuck in California. Family obligations for one. Also doesn't help when life throws you so many curveballs you can't get a job for longer than six months at a time (none of it your fault - I'm talking like losing a job because of a double-homicide that resulted in a store closing, for example, resulting in a health condition that now makes it even harder for me to keep/get a job).

Tl;dr version - I got the short of end of the stick. I'm doing the best I can with it, and giving what I have an abundance of (time, so I volunteer a lot at church, and I'm planning on getting a volunteer position at a child development center soon). So. . . yeah, judge all you want, but anyone would probably do the same in my position considering all I have to deal with.
 
2013-03-16 08:53:27 PM  

HotWingAgenda: thisispete: Being born in '79, some measures place me with the Xers, others with the Millennials. Either way, I sit on the cusp between the generations.

Ah, a fellow Echo-Boomer.  Anyone born to parents who were born during the post-WWII economic boom in the 50's is in our generation.


So if my parents were born in '43 (pre-economic boom) and I was born in '80, what is that called?
 
2013-03-17 12:30:19 AM  
So I've tried yelling out "YOLO" sarcastically and not a single person I know has any idea what the hell I'm talking about. And these are people that generally get my humor.
 
2013-03-17 10:50:04 AM  

somedude210: kimmygibblershomework: YOU are one of them.  Re-read my comment and then look at the buttfarking retarded shiate you wrote.  Dickface.  I love the lack of reading comprehension on this site so you are reminded why you posted the comment in the first place.
Some of em just want to fingerbang all day, others want to video that fingerbanging to brag to friends, and a third just wants to sit there and watch these idiots fingerbang or put ads in the webpage to pay for more fingerbanging videos.  You want us to put our money on the third guy?

We need another draft to thin the ranks out a bit.  Ya know, once they run out of gays and women getting killed.

....you just went on a rant about teenagers fingerbanging. Did you not get any as a teenager? Teens do stupid shiat. and that third guy filming this fingerbanging fiasco and making money? Is he not a job creator? You're paying for the shiat, he's making money, teen 1 and female teen 1 are both going at it because it's fun to fark and you have a problem with this why? Teens have sex, every generation's teens have had sex when they were teens.

A draft may be a good idea if you're at the top of the list. Those that piss you off go last. Why? Because life is cruel and you should've figured that out by now. We need less dumbasses like you creating laws and governing because your mindset is what has farked us over for the last 50 years


Ya just don't get it do you, Scott?
/farking moran
//re-re-read your Boobies where you basically agree with me then have a problem with it.
///already pulled my service
////sarcastic post is sarcastic
//married- so you were correct on not getting any lol
 
2013-03-17 11:49:34 PM  

deanis: Abacus9: Allow me to adjust my onion belt while I explain what's REALLY wrong with Gen Y. It's their music. In my day we had real music: grunge. Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Smashing Pumpkins (whiny emo shoegaze grunge, but still alright when Billy Corgan wasn't raggin' it). Nirvana and Pearl Jam were never truly grunge by the way. Nowadays we got what? Fun., Death Cab for Curie? All garbage. I still listen to grunge while I rock my ripped jeans, flannel shirt over an old and faded black rock T-shirt (not a "tee" by the way) and stomp my Doc Martens to the beat of whatever Candlebox tune happens to be playing (on CD, no ipod) on my tiny little $15 boombox from Meijer. And I ain't gonna be outshined by no lousy Millenial.

Cool story bro. I can't tell if you're serious though. Tell me what the difference is between your self described persona and the old, wrinkly bleach blond haired weirdos who can't get enough of 80s hair metal? You basically chugged all the kool aid from the 90s that you could get your hands on.


The difference is better music, and I still listen to it. The rest was somewhat exaggerated.
 
2013-03-18 01:45:12 AM  

Oerath: L.D. Ablo: Doubtful.  Millennial precious snowflakes can't handle conflict and treat strong opinions as if they were hate crimes.  They cry their little eyes out, call you a bully and think that will shame you into being nice.  Go see how that strategy works against Big Oil or a Too-Big-To-Fail Bank.

The Boomers are fat and happy and are not going to change their ways.

Gen X will end up mucking it out in the trenches to make things work again.  Then the Millennials will take all the credit and pretend like it was their idea all along.

Have you met GenX? They are far and away the more obnoxious generation. I'm kinda right on the line between them and Millenials, and while the young'uns can piss me off quite a bit, GenX is second only to baby boomers when it comes to whiny self-entitlement. Also, any problems with Millenials can generally be traced back to GenX.


You don't seen to know any GenXers. All the ones I know never expected a thing.from anyone.
 
2013-03-18 01:54:00 AM  

Frederick: IMO the current school age generation is far more compassionate than their predecessors.  Probably not as motivated to achieve, but more apt to get along.  The intelligence gap is wider between students; there are still exceptional kids and poor performers, but they are not as likely be found in the same classroom like they were 20 years ago.


I wouldn't say that, it's probably about the same as far as compassion goes. Nowadays you hear a lot about bullying on the news, but it's not a new thing. Still, I wouldn't say this generation is any more compassionate, just more self-absorbed. I've got younger cousins around high school age who can't go 30 seconds without looking at their stupid phone.
 
2013-03-18 03:38:28 PM  

Abacus9: Allow me to adjust my onion belt while I explain what's REALLY wrong with Gen Y. It's their music. In my day we had real music: grunge. Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Smashing Pumpkins (whiny emo shoegaze grunge, but still alright when Billy Corgan wasn't raggin' it). Nirvana and Pearl Jam were never truly grunge by the way. Nowadays we got what? Fun., Death Cab for Curie? All garbage. I still listen to grunge while I rock my ripped jeans, flannel shirt over an old and faded black rock T-shirt (not a "tee" by the way) and stomp my Doc Martens to the beat of whatever Candlebox tune happens to be playing (on CD, no ipod) on my tiny little $15 boombox from Meijer. And I ain't gonna be outshined by no lousy Millenial.


You sound like this guy.

You also sound rather silly insisting that the band that made grunge part of the mainstream and paved the way for every other band you named isn't grunge, but that's neither here nor there.
 
2013-03-18 05:24:51 PM  

Abacus9: And I ain't gonna be outshined by no lousy Millenial.


As a "Millenial" I don't care, you sound like a grumpy out of a touch person anyway.
 
2013-03-19 12:11:19 AM  

TheJoe03: Abacus9: And I ain't gonna be outshined by no lousy Millenial.

As a "Millenial" I don't care, you sound like a grumpy out of a touch person anyway.


Seems as if your snark meter is broken today (hint: intentional misspellings are a sign I wasn't being completely serious).

.

HeartBurnKid: You also sound rather silly insisting that the band that made grunge part of the mainstream and paved the way for every other band you named isn't grunge, but that's neither here nor there.


I definitely give them credit for popularizing and mainstreaming grunge, but there are other bands that contributed and would have still done alright if Nirvana never existed. Soundgarden had been kicking for about 7 years at that point. Besides, I was just pointing out that, at least by '91-'92 (golden age of grunge), Nirvana was no longer a grunge band, more of a punk-sounding Pixies ripoff band. And In Utero sucked.
 
2013-03-19 12:34:10 AM  

Abacus9: Seems as if your snark meter is broken today (hint: intentional misspellings are a sign I wasn't being completely serious).


Well I was just sad that some many Gen Xers were hating on my generation so hard, especially when that was the generation we looked up to as kids.
 
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