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(Daily Mail)   America's sadness belt: Alarming map shows residents in South and Midwest are far more likely to be depressed, obese and hate their jobs   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2013-03-14 11:14:09 PM  

FARK rebel soldier: Does this survey include Indians and Eskimos? Because besides dumb white people killing themselves Oklahoma and Alaska have another problem...


Oklahoma isn't anywhere near as severe as Alaska.  Unless you count the number of indian vets neglected by the USVA, but that's less tribal issues and more about how Uncle Sam is throwing away vets.
 
2013-03-14 11:15:24 PM  

HeadLever: Baloo Uriza: Heck, it makes Oregon look metropolitan,

Look at how Eastern Oregon and SW Idaho match up to make one big chunk of ....  of.... well, BLM.


And some of the most screwed tribes around.  Warm Springs has basically no natural resources whatsoever, and the BIA played a dirty hand and screwed the Klamath out of their land.
 
2013-03-14 11:16:56 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Anyone else notice it seems to be the stupidest parts of the country, too?


And the poorest?
 
2013-03-14 11:18:12 PM  

Baloo Uriza: I think your white supremacists are doing a good job on that.


Damn, I forgot our skinheads.  Yep, don't forget them.  Don't mind what happened in 2001 or anything, though.  That is a conspiracy  They are still there according to a buddy of mine.
 
2013-03-14 11:18:57 PM  
It's kind of cool picking out all of the cities by their little splotches of red or yellow.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-14 11:19:36 PM  
Fat man, with depression issues that is currently working crazy-ass hours at a job 63.5 miles away that is slowly being eroded into a button-pusher job by Time-Warner Cable.

I live in Kentucky.
I'm drinking again tonight.

Seriously thinking about saying fark it and move to Austin, TX.
 
2013-03-14 11:19:59 PM  
Wait, so if the Daily Fail says so, does this mean I'm the exception to the rule?

I'm not depressed.
I'm generally happy with my job.
And I live in the city that has the best food in the nation.
 
2013-03-14 11:27:36 PM  

Baloo Uriza: And some of the most screwed tribes around.  Warm Springs has basically no natural resources whatsoever, and the BIA played a dirty hand and screwed the Klamath out of their land.

 
2013-03-14 11:28:21 PM  
Raoul Eaton:

Barstow, here I come!!!!  Yee haw!

Better than Needles.

\*shudder*
 
2013-03-14 11:29:16 PM  

bionicjoe: I live in Kentucky.
I'm drinking again tonight.


You are what is wrong with AmeriKa

Sorry for your hard ship...
 
2013-03-14 11:30:04 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Warm Springs has basically no natural resources whatsoever, and the BIA played a dirty hand and screwed the Klamath out of their land.


So..... just like any other reservation in the Intermountain West?
 
2013-03-14 11:43:36 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: As a Hoosier ... I'm happy, healthy and love my job. Then again, I got an education to get the job I wanted and live healthy.
But I'm an atheist, liberal so what do I know.


Then you should charge admission for glances upon your glorious countenance.
 
2013-03-14 11:51:16 PM  
SF Bay Area is looking pretty green. Such a gay olde place. We eat our share of wieners here, I can tell you.
 
2013-03-14 11:54:45 PM  
Science newsflash:  Hotter weather affects mood negatively.   Many studies show in increase in depression, aggression, and violent crime as average daily temperature increases.  Other studies have shown that higher humidity also affects mood by lowering how energetic and vigorous a person feels.

Sorry guys.

But feel free to claim some people are superior because of where they live.  Lol.
 
2013-03-14 11:59:27 PM  

HeadLever: Baloo Uriza: Warm Springs has basically no natural resources whatsoever, and the BIA played a dirty hand and screwed the Klamath out of their land.

So..... just like any other reservation in the Intermountain West?


Not quite, for the most part.  At least the tribes in Oklahoma got a surprising degree of sovereignty, and the big three (Cherokee, Choctaw, Muscogee) ended up getting the last laugh since they're sitting on various parts of an oil deposit that makes Saudi Arabia look like Pennsylvania.  Then there's my tribe (Cherokee), which not only is in the oil industry (ConocoPhillips has had several Cherokee CEOs and has always been one degree of separation or less from the tribe) is also a major player in defense (cruise missiles), communications hardware (switches, racks, etc), manufacturing, logistics and entertainment (including Cherokee Casinos and Hard Rock Casinos).

Then there's the Navajo, which save for long-simmering and ongoing territorial issues with the Hopi, largely got their land back after the European settlers didn't know what the fark a desert was, much less how to live in it...

That's not to say that it's entirely sunshine and roses, we're talking about doing pretty well for being the subject of 200+ years of systematic genocide, some pieces of which, like the CDIB system the BIA insists on for all tribes, are still in place...

/$2.959/gal if you know where to look, 70¢ more if you don't.
//And that's that's high for here
 
2013-03-15 12:14:14 AM  
West Virginia is now considered the south or midwest?  In today's society if you're miserable where you're at then get off your ass and move.
 
2013-03-15 12:35:07 AM  

bionicjoe: Fat man, with depression issues that is currently working crazy-ass hours at a job 63.5 miles away that is slowly being eroded into a button-pusher job by Time-Warner Cable.

I live in Kentucky.
I'm drinking again tonight.

Seriously thinking about saying fark it and move to Austin, TX.


Spent 10 years in Western KY/TN. Back in Colorado. Sunshine. Panoramic views. Civilization. Getting undepressed quickly.
 
2013-03-15 12:39:56 AM  
Wait, there are JOBS in Illinois? where? I would feel lucky to have a job that i hated.
 
2013-03-15 12:45:16 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: West Virginia is now considered the south or midwest?  In today's society if you're miserable where you're at then get off your ass and move.


That's why West Virginia's #1 export is its children.

/West Virginian by birth
 
2013-03-15 01:16:52 AM  

Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.


Their football stadium is called the Factory of Sadness for a reason.
 
2013-03-15 01:48:51 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Science newsflash:  Hotter weather affects mood negatively.   Many studies show in increase in depression, aggression, and violent crime as average daily temperature increases.  Other studies have shown that higher humidity also affects mood by lowering how energetic and vigorous a person feels.

Sorry guys.

But feel free to claim some people are superior because of where they live.  Lol.


Well, yeah, they were smart enough to move away from the hot places.
 
2013-03-15 01:55:34 AM  
But they loves that ebony porn
 
2013-03-15 02:04:05 AM  
Cubicle Jockey Your "schools" or any in the US are not even on the same planet as Finland.

Actually the US is not even in the top ten.

No homework ever, no standardized tests and no more than 12 kids per class.

America's solution....free breakfasts, fifty kids per class, go to school year round and standardized tests.   bwhahahahahahaaa!!!  Absolute farking losers.
 
2013-03-15 02:19:01 AM  

bostonowns: so let me get this straight....
the bible belt:
highest depression rates
highest obesity rates
lowest high school graduation percentage
lowest % of insured
high welfare
most funds spent on abstinence only
highest teen pregnancy rates
super wacky religious

WOW SOUNDS AWESOME!


Yes, but are they ignorant sacks of blubber because they are religious, or are they religious because they are ignorant sacks of blubber?
 
2013-03-15 03:03:58 AM  
Ok, now I know this map is inaccurate... Houston is a dumping ground, and more and more people are obese there... least they got Dallas right.
 
2013-03-15 03:11:36 AM  
www.immortalmusic.net
Here's a better overlay.
 
2013-03-15 04:00:03 AM  
Alarming Unsurprising map...
 
2013-03-15 04:45:25 AM  

rugman11: The book was written 30 years ago. Maybe it was more so then? A lot of things have changed since then, I just thought it fit well the split in the survey between "Foundry Midwest" and "Breadbasket Midwest


Naw, That part of Canada is rock, swamp and trees. It's the edge of the Canadian Shield. Its difficult to grow anything there, definitely not breadbasket material. If anything, it should be labeled as empty quarter.

You're probably right about the way it splits the medwest though
 
2013-03-15 04:46:52 AM  

Cubicle Jockey: Damnit, Rhode Island, you are messing up our superior New England vibe.


Rhode Island's just jealous because they're so small, and want to be more like Florida.
 
2013-03-15 06:22:39 AM  

bostonowns: so let me get this straight....
the bible belt:
highest depression rates
highest obesity rates
lowest high school graduation percentage
lowest % of insured
high welfare
most funds spent on abstinence only
highest teen pregnancy rates
super wacky religious

WOW SOUNDS AWESOME!


wow, you made up a ton of stats there

citation, please
 
2013-03-15 07:26:22 AM  
And what are the demographics of the south, and west?

There is your answer.
 
2013-03-15 07:41:45 AM  

Dinki: But they will continue to vote for the guy telling them that tax cuts for the rich are the only way to fix the economy.


Well the party also promotes business growth while the other side stifles business growth unless its union backed and paid for with votes.

But still we are just resigning ourselves to the fact hell like weather is coming so we stay inside for the AC and order pizza.
 
2013-03-15 07:42:19 AM  
i would be depressed if i didn't go trip at least once a week
 
2013-03-15 08:18:41 AM  
The only good thing I get from this list :

I'm in the 9th worst state and at least I feel good that i don't live in one of the top 8.
 
2013-03-15 08:20:09 AM  

VTGremlin: It's kind of cool picking out all of the cities by their little splotches of red or yellow.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 700x400]


Colorado?  I've found myself staring at a map of that state often since last year's election day.....
 
2013-03-15 08:22:50 AM  

bionicjoe: Fat man, with depression issues that is currently working crazy-ass hours at a job 63.5 miles away that is slowly being eroded into a button-pusher job by Time-Warner Cable.

I live in Kentucky.
I'm drinking again tonight.

Seriously thinking about saying fark it and move to Austin, TX.


Got out of my head!
I've been thinking of saying fark it and moving to Austin, too!
 
2013-03-15 08:23:17 AM  

valar_morghulis: Good. fark the South and fark the Midwest. Maybe if enough suicides happen we won't be subject to their fly-over-state-stupidity.


Dude....your profile says you're from Florida

/people in glass houses etc
 
2013-03-15 08:25:02 AM  

Baloo Uriza: HeadLever: Baloo Uriza: Warm Springs has basically no natural resources whatsoever, and the BIA played a dirty hand and screwed the Klamath out of their land.

So..... just like any other reservation in the Intermountain West?

Not quite, for the most part.  At least the tribes in Oklahoma got a surprising degree of sovereignty, and the big three (Cherokee, Choctaw, Muscogee) ended up getting the last laugh since they're sitting on various parts of an oil deposit that makes Saudi Arabia look like Pennsylvania.  Then there's my tribe (Cherokee), which not only is in the oil industry (ConocoPhillips has had several Cherokee CEOs and has always been one degree of separation or less from the tribe) is also a major player in defense (cruise missiles), communications hardware (switches, racks, etc), manufacturing, logistics and entertainment (including Cherokee Casinos and Hard Rock Casinos).

Then there's the Navajo, which save for long-simmering and ongoing territorial issues with the Hopi, largely got their land back after the European settlers didn't know what the fark a desert was, much less how to live in it...

That's not to say that it's entirely sunshine and roses, we're talking about doing pretty well for being the subject of 200+ years of systematic genocide, some pieces of which, like the CDIB system the BIA insists on for all tribes, are still in place...

/$2.959/gal if you know where to look, 70¢ more if you don't.
//And that's that's high for here


There aren't enough of my native tribe left to make a difference.  But, if the US government wanted to give them their land back, i'd be glad to stake my claim to Hamilton County, Ohio and surrounding parts.
 
2013-03-15 09:01:33 AM  

ITGreen: BunkyBrewman: Thanks Obama

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Anyone else notice it seems to be the stupidest parts of the country, too?

Godscrack: What a coincidence. They're the same states that are the most conservative and religious.

And racist. And homophobic. And sexist
.

Came for a sampling of these.


Don't forget to point out that a lot of blacks and Hispanics live down here too.  Can't forget to call them stupid and racist, can we?
 
2013-03-15 10:19:39 AM  

People_are_Idiots: [www.immortalmusic.net image 850x581]
Here's a better overlay.


Not sure what I'm looking at on this one.
 
2013-03-15 11:13:16 AM  
So the map is saying that there's lots of whiners and crysacks around those parts?

As my good friend Andy, Andy Dufresne would say: You either get busy livin'... or get busy dyin'.
 
2013-03-15 12:02:54 PM  

Baloo Uriza: People_are_Idiots: [www.immortalmusic.net image 850x581]
Here's a better overlay.

Not sure what I'm looking at on this one.


Basically put both maps together. The green spots show happiness, right?
 
2013-03-15 12:32:58 PM  
2 out of 3 ain't bad...now I just have to find a job, and I can join the status quo.
 
2013-03-15 12:40:13 PM  

CognaciousThunk: T.rex: Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.

Give me a break.  Every other city in Ohio is Cleveland's red-headed step-child.

Only a Clevelander would say that. Columbus and Cinci are paying for your town's continuous fail streak.

/no wonder we're biatchy.
//not depressed
///not obese
////hate my job tho


Paying 'how'?   Cinci is hicksville and Columbus is a college town.   Neither of those have anything on a major metropolis like Cleveland, sorry.
 
2013-03-15 01:41:30 PM  

chetbango: Osomatic: I'm a fat guy who hates his job... uh oh, it must be me dragging California down into the 2nd rank.

Looking at the second map, its the southern Californians dragging down the northerners.


Maybe.  But we're financing their lifestyles, so I don't want to hear any whining about it from them.
 
2013-03-15 01:44:41 PM  

T.rex: CognaciousThunk: T.rex: Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.

Give me a break.  Every other city in Ohio is Cleveland's red-headed step-child.

Only a Clevelander would say that. Columbus and Cinci are paying for your town's continuous fail streak.

/no wonder we're biatchy.
//not depressed
///not obese
////hate my job tho

Paying 'how'?   Cinci is hicksville and Columbus is a college town.   Neither of those have anything on a major metropolis like Cleveland, sorry.


Ohio metro area sizes 2012:

 
Cincinnati: 2.12M

Cleveland: 2.06M

Columbus: 1.94M (the above numbers are metro areas, not city sizes, and notably Columbus doesn't have the population bump advantage of a satellite city (e.g., Akron) that adds to the population number but adds nothing else)

 
So, Cincinnati is actually bigger than Cleveland, and "Cleveland" (with Akron) is a whole 6% bigger than Columbus.

 
I lived in California and on the east coast for many years, then grew up and wanted to move back to Ohio because, when you realize that judging a place based primarily on the opinions of (1) people who have never been there or (2) are from there and desperately trying to substitute a new zip code for accomplishment and identity, you realize that Ohio is a great place to live with a lot to offer. That said, being from none of the "three Cs" originally, I did careful due diligence when I decided to move back, and Columbus was the clear winner. Cincinnati was second based on impressive quirk factor. I don't hate on Cleveland, it has a lot to offer (really), but it's (1) not meaningfully bigger than the other two; (2) not as prosperous Columbus; and (3) not as weirdly interesting as Cincintucky.

 
/mostly opinion

//worth little

///like the other opinions in this thread

//except for the awesome Cali dudes
/who are awesome (and were probably born in Indiana)
 
2013-03-15 04:27:32 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: To be fair, Crippling Depression is Ohio's #1 export.


Mass produced in Cleveland
 
2013-03-15 04:41:05 PM  

T.rex: CognaciousThunk: T.rex: Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.

Give me a break.  Every other city in Ohio is Cleveland's red-headed step-child.

Only a Clevelander would say that. Columbus and Cinci are paying for your town's continuous fail streak.

/no wonder we're biatchy.
//not depressed
///not obese
////hate my job tho

Paying 'how'?   Cinci is hicksville and Columbus is a college town.   Neither of those have anything on a major metropolis like Cleveland, sorry.


Major metropolis..PFFFTTTT. Major derptopolis that closes at 8 on weekdays and 10 on weekends.
 
2013-03-15 06:51:56 PM  

People_are_Idiots: Baloo Uriza: People_are_Idiots: [www.immortalmusic.net image 850x581]
Here's a better overlay.

Not sure what I'm looking at on this one.

Basically put both maps together. The green spots show happiness, right?


Depends.  In Oregon, the extremely rural areas tend to have some very real issues in terms of cost of living, quality of life and wages.  Bonus points: There's not a whole lot in terms of social venues or the critical mass to come together and protest on a visible scale (as cows outnumber people by an overwhelming margin, and there's just not that many cows in the desert).  Rural Oklahoma, you're rarely more than 15 miles from significant population.
 
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