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(Daily Mail)   America's sadness belt: Alarming map shows residents in South and Midwest are far more likely to be depressed, obese and hate their jobs   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 196
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2013-03-14 09:04:25 PM  

HeadLever: lostcat: Grew up in the Midwest.
Moved to SF Bay Area at 26.
Moved back at 30.
Went to the grocery store to buy some avocados; found six, mushy avocados to chose from.
Moved back to SF Bay Area.

you must love avocados to have to put up with that.


That's what the coasts do to people's values.
/The number one reason people stay in New York: bagels.
 
2013-03-14 09:04:27 PM  

rugman11: As are 35% of the country's happiest states. Where's the outcry about the despair in the Middle Atlantic? We'd probably be better off defining it by the Nine Nations hypothesis. Dixie and The Foundry are hurting. The Breadbasket, not so much


I can't say much about a lot of that map, but the guy who made it clearly didn't know much about Canada. The eastern edge of Manitoba and that chunk of Ontario north of Superior aren't Breadbasket by a long shot.
 
2013-03-14 09:05:43 PM  

noitsnot: f you live anywhere that is even remotely convenient to a good job, then no, you are boned.


It all depends upon what you definition of 'good job' is.  If that is cleaning trails or being a Smokejumper in a national forest, then you may be in luck.

If you are going to be a laywer, then maybe not.
 
2013-03-14 09:06:01 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Whoo, 4th Quintile baby! Suck on that Illinois!

Wait...how did Missouri beat Illinois at this?


No recent tornados to bring them down, and Joplin is probably rebuilt some.
 
2013-03-14 09:09:11 PM  

HeadLever: mikebdoss: California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.

Very true.  Even though I may like to stereotypically like to cuss Cali, I have some good friends and there is some amazing country there.  For the most part, all of my trips have been to southern and coastal parts.

For the most part I like to spend time in BFE.  Hard to consider much of Cali as BFE.


upload.wikimedia.org

Yeah, Cali's population distribution is sort of extreme.
 
2013-03-14 09:15:33 PM  

Raoul Eaton: mikebdoss: HeadLever: lostcat: I do enjoy them, but the story was indicative of my total experience. Moving back to a place where "cheese fries" (pizza without sauce) was the height of culinary expression, and I had my choice of two "Oriental" restaurants, provided I was willing to drive to the next county for one of them...I just couldn't go back to that after knowing how much was out there to explore.

Yeah, I am just joking.  Folks have differing taste and there is quite a bit to offer in Cali.  However, I am not a partial to 90% of it and have a completely different set of standards that I consider important.

For me; spent a little bit of time in the midwest and didn't hate it.  Spent a little time in Cali and there are TOO MANY DAMN PEOPLE!!!

California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.

Barstow, here I come!!!!  Yee haw!


What about Fresno?  Nobody goes to Fresno anymore.
 
2013-03-14 09:15:49 PM  

Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.


Give me a break.  Every other city in Ohio is Cleveland's red-headed step-child.
 
2013-03-14 09:16:20 PM  
Mostly red states. This is my shocked face.
 
2013-03-14 09:16:49 PM  

noitsnot: mikebdoss:

California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.

Sorry, no.  No, there are not.  I guess if you live in Riverside or Oxnard or Tracy or Hollister, then yeah.  You can drive 20 miles to get away.  If you live anywhere that is even remotely convenient to a good job, then no, you are boned.

And we don't measure travel in distance here - we measure it in time.  It takes 3 hours to get anywhere remote.


I live in Santa Ana. Central Orange County. Four miles from Disneyland. And guess what - just 15 miles (and 15 minutes) from me are rolling hills, wide open spaces, coastal drives, and hundreds of miles of hiking trails. Most of the LA area that's not Compton is the same way.
 
2013-03-14 09:17:22 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: These are also the states that get the most federal aid and contribute the least in taxes.  If we could jettison the 10 worst-performing states in America, this country would be great.


If only there was some way they could organize and agitate for better working conditions.
 
2013-03-14 09:20:22 PM  

noitsnot: Baloo Uriza: America's sadness belt: Alarming map shows residents in South and Midwest are far more likely to be depressed, obese and hate their jobs

Want to know how I know the Daily Fail didn't look at the Pacific Northwest?  You know you're doing something wrong when over half the episodes of COPS were filmed in just the four Pacific Northwest states.  Consistently saddest episodes are the ones filmed in Portland, Oregon and Kodiak City, Alaska.

Yeah - gotta throw a big thank you out to Portland for sucking so many of the loser out of the bay area up to Oregonad


Strangely enough, the Kodiak City and Portland episodes actually predate the Californian Invasion.
 
2013-03-14 09:20:56 PM  

ProfessorOhki: Yeah, Cali's population distribution is sort of extreme.


Here is Idaho's

upload.wikimedia.org

~35% of the state has a population density less than 1.  I grew up right in the middle of it.
 
2013-03-14 09:20:59 PM  
Want to know an interesting correlation?  Want to make prohibitionists' heads asplode?

The Gallup poll is broken out into categories.  In the "healthy behaviors" section, of the top ten states, nine have medical marijuana laws.

How 'bout that.
 
2013-03-14 09:21:50 PM  
Good woman gubbymint job that is still fun with good coworkers and 3 years til retirement living at the beach and lots of family close and every toy that has ever been wanted from A to ZWe dont need no steenking map
 
2013-03-14 09:22:16 PM  
Actually we are VERY happy in the south & midwest....it's done on purpose to make sure you
loony left wing idiots on the left coast, who have destroyed their own states, STAY PUT and don't
migrate to our unspoiled neck of the woods ;)
 
2013-03-14 09:22:22 PM  

mikebdoss: noitsnot: mikebdoss:

California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.

Sorry, no.  No, there are not.  I guess if you live in Riverside or Oxnard or Tracy or Hollister, then yeah.  You can drive 20 miles to get away.  If you live anywhere that is even remotely convenient to a good job, then no, you are boned.

And we don't measure travel in distance here - we measure it in time.  It takes 3 hours to get anywhere remote.

I live in Santa Ana. Central Orange County. Four miles from Disneyland. And guess what - just 15 miles (and 15 minutes) from me are rolling hills, wide open spaces, coastal drives, and hundreds of miles of hiking trails. Most of the LA area that's not Compton is the same way.


I think we just define things differently. I'd give ya Joshua Tree, but that's a good bit further.
 
2013-03-14 09:24:20 PM  

noitsnot: mikebdoss: noitsnot: mikebdoss:

California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.

Sorry, no.  No, there are not.  I guess if you live in Riverside or Oxnard or Tracy or Hollister, then yeah.  You can drive 20 miles to get away.  If you live anywhere that is even remotely convenient to a good job, then no, you are boned.

And we don't measure travel in distance here - we measure it in time.  It takes 3 hours to get anywhere remote.

I live in Santa Ana. Central Orange County. Four miles from Disneyland. And guess what - just 15 miles (and 15 minutes) from me are rolling hills, wide open spaces, coastal drives, and hundreds of miles of hiking trails. Most of the LA area that's not Compton is the same way.

I think we just define things differently. I'd give ya Joshua Tree, but that's a good bit further.


And if I had to boil your post down to four words, it would be "Four miles from Disneyland".
 
2013-03-14 09:30:30 PM  

amishkarl: rugman11: As are 35% of the country's happiest states. Where's the outcry about the despair in the Middle Atlantic? We'd probably be better off defining it by the Nine Nations hypothesis. Dixie and The Foundry are hurting. The Breadbasket, not so much

I can't say much about a lot of that map, but the guy who made it clearly didn't know much about Canada. The eastern edge of Manitoba and that chunk of Ontario north of Superior aren't Breadbasket by a long shot.


The book was written 30 years ago.  Maybe it was more so then?  A lot of things have changed since then, I just thought it fit well the split in the survey between "Foundry Midwest" and "Breadbasket Midwest."
 
2013-03-14 09:30:49 PM  
None of those in the 5th quintile are Midwestern states IMHO.

I see east central, south, deep south and whatever the hell Oklahoma is (I'd call it a western state).

This isnt 1803.

/ Minnesotan
// apparently I'm trim and happy
 
2013-03-14 09:30:57 PM  

T.rex: Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.

Give me a break.  Every other city in Ohio is Cleveland's red-headed step-child.


Only a Clevelander would say that. Columbus and Cinci are paying for your town's continuous fail streak.

/no wonder we're biatchy.
//not depressed
///not obese
////hate my job tho
 
2013-03-14 09:32:55 PM  

mikebdoss: I live in Santa Ana. Central Orange County. Four miles from Disneyland. And guess what - just 15 miles (and 15 minutes) from me are rolling hills, wide open spaces, coastal drives, and hundreds of miles of hiking trails.


That is good for most.  However when I go out, I enjoy not seeing many people as well.  I was in Denver for a few years and you can hike for 10 miles back in the mountains and away from any road - and it would still be crowded :(


Still places I can go here where I can guarantee that you will hike for 20 miles and never see a single soul.  For me, I have never really been able to enjoy the outdoors unless I can mostly get away from others.  That is kind of why I do my best to stay away from places like Yellowstone and RMNP.
 
2013-03-14 09:34:10 PM  

sheep snorter: Since when do fat lazy depressed teabagers have jobs?

Oh and going out to the mailbox on your Obama paid motorscooter is not a job.

And sucking off their third cousin is not a job either, unless they get paid the going rate of possum and grits plus a chicken.


wonkette.com

OK so the anti-Obama Teabaggers are buying hover-rounds from Obama.

RIGHT.


...did those bastards at JPL re-wire my sarc meter backwards???
 
2013-03-14 09:35:21 PM  

p51d007: Actually we are VERY happy in the south & midwest....it's done on purpose to make sure you
loony left wing idiots on the left coast, who have destroyed their own states, STAY PUT and don't
migrate to our unspoiled neck of the woods ;)


Of course. Fat people are supposed to be jolly.

/ I keed, I keed
// am also fat and happy
/// in CA
 
2013-03-14 09:37:51 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: As a Hoosier ... I'm happy, healthy and love my job. Then again, I got an education to get the job I wanted and live healthy.
But I'm an atheist, liberal so what do I know.


Ditto except I'm from Missouri...

I love to travel and I can think of about 1000 other places where I would be very happy to live. But I'm very happy to live here, the cost of living is low, I have job I like, and my family is here.

/but yea the artichokes in the supermarket are gross looking
 
2013-03-14 09:45:36 PM  
We live in the Midwest. Neither are obese. She loves her job; I detest mine. She's not depressed; I hide mine.
 
2013-03-14 09:47:20 PM  

HeadLever: ProfessorOhki: Yeah, Cali's population distribution is sort of extreme.

Here is Idaho's

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~35% of the state has a population density less than 1.  I grew up right in the middle of it.


Yeah, I knew Idaho was an isolated redneck wasteland, but this piqued my curiosity.  It makes Oklahoma look downright metropolitan.

upload.wikimedia.org

Heck, it makes Oregon look metropolitan, and that state's got 20 quite large, basically empty counties.  Seriously, drive Boise to Portland on US 26 at the right time of day, you can make it through daylight without seeing another soul the entire length.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-14 09:48:14 PM  
What is wrong with you people?  This thread reeks of hatred and bigotry.  Regional tribalism is such pathetic bullshiat.
 
2013-03-14 09:52:44 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: What is wrong with you people?  This thread reeks of hatred and bigotry.  Regional tribalism is such pathetic bullshiat.


Did someone just get butthurt we're busting this article published in a paper written by people who, in all likelihood, haven't ever set foot on this continent, with real world observation and statistical analysis?
 
2013-03-14 09:56:59 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Fish in a Barrel: What is wrong with you people?  This thread reeks of hatred and bigotry.  Regional tribalism is such pathetic bullshiat.

Did someone just get butthurt we're busting this article published in a paper written by people who, in all likelihood, haven't ever set foot on this continent, with real world observation and statistical analysis?




You might need an editor.
 
2013-03-14 10:00:41 PM  
And yet Montana has the second highest suicide rate per capita.....

Meh, fark statistics.
 
2013-03-14 10:01:16 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Yeah, I knew Idaho was an isolated redneck wasteland, but this piqued my curiosity.  It makes Oklahoma look downright metropolitan.


yep, redneck hillbillies and noting here but sagebrush and rocks.  Spread the word.
 
2013-03-14 10:01:41 PM  
Does this survey include Indians and Eskimos? Because besides dumb white people killing themselves Oklahoma and Alaska have another problem...
 
2013-03-14 10:06:12 PM  

Dreyelle: I live in Georgia.  It's not West Virginia.  So I got that going for me.


Or Mississippi! We got that going for us too!
 
2013-03-14 10:08:00 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Heck, it makes Oregon look metropolitan,


Look at how Eastern Oregon and SW Idaho match up to make one big chunk of ....  of.... well, BLM.
 
2013-03-14 10:11:46 PM  
Right and these are the same pile of sad sack assholes trying to fark the rest of the nation with their farking politics. Fark 'em. Bury them, they are dead anyway. Farking assholes.
 
2013-03-14 10:13:14 PM  

Choestoe: Dreyelle: I live in Georgia.  It's not West Virginia.  So I got that going for me.

Or Mississippi! We got that going for us too!


Or Arkansas! Let's not forget our miserable-ass brothers and sisters there.

/fat
//depressed
///hate job
 
2013-03-14 10:13:59 PM  

Dreyelle: I live in Georgia.  It's not West Virginia.  So I got that going for me.


Thank Atlanta for that. Otherwise it's just another Alabama.
 
2013-03-14 10:14:50 PM  

JerkyMeat: Right and these are the same pile of sad sack assholes trying to fark the rest of the nation with their farking politics. Fark 'em. Bury them, they are dead anyway. Farking assholes.


lol, you mad?  Let me guess. . . Indiana?

*Checks Profile*  Damn.  Why are you so grumpy?  You'r supposed to be green.
 
2013-03-14 10:16:50 PM  
I'd like to thank this post for reminding me that I'm not alone in the life is suffering, fark everyone, philosophy.
 
2013-03-14 10:20:30 PM  
I live in what most ignorant folks call "the South" and I have to poop now.
 
2013-03-14 10:25:38 PM  
Midwest.  What an odd name for a region in the eastern portion of your country.  Wouldn't Middle East be more accurate?
 
2013-03-14 10:26:03 PM  

MrHappyRotter: I live in what most folks call "the ignorant South" and I have to poop now.


/FTFM
 
2013-03-14 10:27:25 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: To be fair, Crippling Depression is Ohio's #1 export.


They have a factory and everything:

i.qkme.me
 
2013-03-14 10:38:11 PM  
You know where a lot of people live that don't hate their jobs?  Sheepletown.

/i just sheepled
 
2013-03-14 10:49:54 PM  

HeadLever: ProfessorOhki: Yeah, Cali's population distribution is sort of extreme.

Here is Idaho's



~35% of the state has a population density less than 1.  I grew up right in the middle of it.


This is why I settled down in Idaho (grew up in IL and OH). I live in the big red splotch but I can drive an hour and be all by myself in God's country. Or desert and sagebrush, but that's ok too.
 
2013-03-14 10:56:54 PM  
How's that old fashioned religion treatin y'all?
I can say that cause I'm a southerner and went to an independent fundamentalist baptist school for 3 years.
 
2013-03-14 11:03:40 PM  

revrendjim: HeadLever: ProfessorOhki: Yeah, Cali's population distribution is sort of extreme.

Here is Idaho's

~35% of the state has a population density less than 1.  I grew up right in the middle of it.

This is why I settled down in Idaho (grew up in IL and OH). I live in the big red splotch but I can drive an hour and be all by myself in God's country. Or desert and sagebrush, but that's ok too.


Yeah, I now live in that big red splotch on the SW side.  Kind of mandatory since engineering is my career.  Oh well, I still get back to 'God's Country" every chance I get.  My heart never left.
 
2013-03-14 11:07:52 PM  
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2013-03-14 11:09:23 PM  
so let me get this straight....
the bible belt:
highest depression rates
highest obesity rates
lowest high school graduation percentage
lowest % of insured
high welfare
most funds spent on abstinence only
highest teen pregnancy rates
super wacky religious

WOW SOUNDS AWESOME!
 
2013-03-14 11:12:07 PM  

HeadLever: Baloo Uriza: Yeah, I knew Idaho was an isolated redneck wasteland, but this piqued my curiosity.  It makes Oklahoma look downright metropolitan.

yep, redneck hillbillies and noting here but sagebrush and rocks.  Spread the word.


I think your white supremacists are doing a good job on that.  But would you mind keeping them the hell away from Portland for a change?
 
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