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2013-03-14 04:10:07 PM  
Thanks Obama
 
2013-03-14 04:15:00 PM  
To be fair, Crippling Depression is Ohio's #1 export.
 
2013-03-14 05:41:29 PM  
But they will continue to vote for the guy telling them that tax cuts for the rich are the only way to fix the economy.
 
2013-03-14 05:52:52 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Thanks Obama


I've been comparing this map to the 2012 election results map. Maybe it IS Obama's fault?
 
2013-03-14 05:55:50 PM  
Anyone else notice it seems to be the stupidest parts of the country, too?
 
2013-03-14 05:56:20 PM  
What a coincidence. They're the same states that are the most conservative and religious.

And racist. And homophobic. And sexist.
 
2013-03-14 06:01:00 PM  
I'm a fat guy who hates his job... uh oh, it must be me dragging California down into the 2nd rank.
 
2013-03-14 06:05:01 PM  

Godscrack: What a coincidence. They're the same states that are the most conservative and religious.

And racist. And homophobic. And sexist.


LOL. I love you.
 
2013-03-14 06:05:25 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Thanks Obama


Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Anyone else notice it seems to be the stupidest parts of the country, too?


Godscrack: What a coincidence. They're the same states that are the most conservative and religious.

And racist. And homophobic. And sexist.


Came for a sampling of these.
 
2013-03-14 06:17:15 PM  
Everybody in Utah is on SSRIs or tricyclic antidepressants, so are the results still valid?
 
2013-03-14 06:26:26 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Everybody in Utah is on SSRIs or tricyclic antidepressants, so are the results still valid?


Good question.

Appalachia and the Deep South. And Michigan. And Nevada. Hrm.
 
2013-03-14 06:42:02 PM  
The Midwest depresses the hell out of me

/and I don't even live there
 
2013-03-14 06:50:00 PM  
img593.imageshack.us
 
2013-03-14 07:09:21 PM  
I call shenanigans. Illinois should be number one on the top ten list.
 
2013-03-14 07:11:10 PM  
Good. fark the South and fark the Midwest. Maybe if enough suicides happen we won't be subject to their fly-over-state-stupidity.
 
2013-03-14 07:11:29 PM  
Richard III?  Chelsea Clinton?

/The tags are sometimes as good as the comments.
 
2013-03-14 07:11:43 PM  
I live in Georgia.  It's not West Virginia.  So I got that going for me.
 
Ehh
2013-03-14 07:12:32 PM  
They have jobs? They should be happy!
 
2013-03-14 07:13:32 PM  
Fat, unhappy, and stupid is no way to go through life, Mississippi.
 
2013-03-14 07:13:52 PM  
I'd like to see an overlay on that map of scripts written for antidepressants. I was born and raised in New Jersey and I'm a miserable fark who hates life
 
2013-03-14 07:14:59 PM  
When did New Jersey move to the South?
 
2013-03-14 07:17:07 PM  
Could it possibly be because these places have shiat school systems and even shiattier economies?
 
2013-03-14 07:17:25 PM  
 Country Roads, take me home. To the place where I can blow my farking brains out ,West Virginia, mountain mommaTake me home, country roads.
 
2013-03-14 07:18:38 PM  
us.123rf.com

GIS for "sadness belt"
 
2013-03-14 07:19:31 PM  
Joke's on you...I'm not obese!

Wait...damn
 
2013-03-14 07:19:52 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Everybody in Utah is on SSRIs or tricyclic antidepressants, so are the results still valid?


styckx: I'd like to see an overlay on that map of scripts written for antidepressants. I was born and raised in New Jersey and I'm a miserable fark who hates life


Look for percentages of people without healthcare.  I hypothesize people without it are less likely to get prescription medicines.
 
2013-03-14 07:20:06 PM  
odd, i'm depressed and hate my job but I'm fit and trim like the 20 year old pool boy that keeps your mother entertained
 
2013-03-14 07:20:54 PM  
It's stuff like this that reminds me just how fricking GIGANTIC the United States is... I've been fortunate enough to travel a bit and see the differences between the regions.  Makes me think that if these fat unhappy unemployed farkers in Mississippi would spend their last $50 to get on a Greyhound headed out West they could find a happier life.

Either that, or a different hell hole with a view of the back of a Denny's rather than a view of the McDonald's parking lot.
 
2013-03-14 07:21:09 PM  
When the aliens come to eat us they will probably use this map. I'm in a green zone so I'm probably safe for awhile.
 
2013-03-14 07:21:14 PM  
Since when do fat lazy depressed teabagers have jobs?

Oh and going out to the mailbox on your Obama paid motorscooter is not a job.

And sucking off their third cousin is not a job either, unless they get paid the going rate of possum and grits plus a chicken.
 
2013-03-14 07:22:26 PM  

Godscrack: What a coincidence. They're the same states that are the most conservative and religious.

And racist. And homophobic. And sexist.


Buckle of the bible belt
 
2013-03-14 07:22:48 PM  
Damnit, Rhode Island, you are messing up our superior New England vibe.
 
2013-03-14 07:23:06 PM  

Godscrack: What a coincidence. They're the same states that are the most conservative and religious.

And racist. And homophobic. And sexist.


Check out the plains states.
 
2013-03-14 07:23:44 PM  
Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.
 
2013-03-14 07:23:47 PM  

cold_war_relic: I call shenanigans. Illinois should be number one on the top ten list.


I agree, just left that shiat hole and will never go back.
 
2013-03-14 07:25:22 PM  
As a Hoosier ... I'm happy, healthy and love my job. Then again, I got an education to get the job I wanted and live healthy.
But I'm an atheist, liberal so what do I know.
 
2013-03-14 07:25:59 PM  

sheep snorter: Since when do fat lazy depressed teabagers have jobs?

Oh and going out to the mailbox on your Obama paid motorscooter is not a job.

And sucking off their third cousin is not a job either, unless they get paid the going rate of possum and grits plus a chicken.


AND a chicken?!?! Damn, I have been seriously undercutting the market.
 
2013-03-14 07:26:33 PM  

This text is now purple: Godscrack: What a coincidence. They're the same states that are the most conservative and religious.

And racist. And homophobic. And sexist.

Check out the plains states.


Crazy how that works huh?
Thank Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener for that beautiful picture!
 
2013-03-14 07:27:01 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: sheep snorter: Since when do fat lazy depressed teabagers have jobs?

Oh and going out to the mailbox on your Obama paid motorscooter is not a job.

And sucking off their third cousin is not a job either, unless they get paid the going rate of possum and grits plus a chicken.

AND a chicken?!?! Damn, I have been seriously undercutting the market.


Well, in full disclosure, the chickens they get are a bit...used.
 
2013-03-14 07:28:20 PM  

Godscrack: What a coincidence. They're the same states that are the most conservative and religious.

And racist. And homophobic. And sexist.


came to say this.  leaving satisfied

/ and smug
// liberal urban elite
/// sad and depressed
 
2013-03-14 07:29:27 PM  

valar_morghulis: Good. fark the South and fark the Midwest. Maybe if enough suicides happen we won't be subject to their fly-over-state-stupidity.

 We are still using 19th century terminology if Ohio is a "midwest state". Get with the program, America. Dump the East Coast bias.


Two of the true midwest states (Iowa & Minnesota) rank as the least depressed, so the headline's thesis is b.s.
 
2013-03-14 07:29:30 PM  

PapaChester: Thank Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener for that beautiful picture!


*tips hat*

Much obliged - cheers!
 
2013-03-14 07:30:27 PM  
These are also the states that get the most federal aid and contribute the least in taxes.  If we could jettison the 10 worst-performing states in America, this country would be great.
 
2013-03-14 07:32:05 PM  
six categories including life evaluation, emotional health, work environment, physical health, healthy behaviors and basic access.

Cable TV?
 
2013-03-14 07:34:56 PM  
But they still have their guns, howitzers, bazookas and other armament available under the Second Amendment, right?
 
2013-03-14 07:35:39 PM  
Bible belt, sadness belt....
images.wikia.com
Where are the onion belts?
 
2013-03-14 07:36:45 PM  

Christian Bale: valar_morghulis: Good. fark the South and fark the Midwest. Maybe if enough suicides happen we won't be subject to their fly-over-state-stupidity.
 We are still using 19th century terminology if Ohio is a "midwest state". Get with the program, America. Dump the East Coast bias.


Two of the true midwest states (Iowa & Minnesota) rank as the least depressed, so the headline's thesis is b.s.



Iowa and Minnesota also happen to be a lot more liberal (except the Bachmann supporters) than the Dakotas and a lot less drunk than Wisconsin...
 
2013-03-14 07:37:43 PM  

Christian Bale: valar_morghulis: Good. fark the South and fark the Midwest. Maybe if enough suicides happen we won't be subject to their fly-over-state-stupidity.
 We are still using 19th century terminology if Ohio is a "midwest state". Get with the program, America. Dump the East Coast bias.


Two of the true midwest states (Iowa & Minnesota) rank as the least depressed, so the headline's thesis is b.s.


which seems odd since both places are largely populated by germans, danes, and swedes, some notoriously mopey people

/mopey deutsch moper
 
2013-03-14 07:41:06 PM  
No surprise that people under the yoke of a religion that makes you feel guilty about everything that you enjoy, are sad and depressed.  What a shocker...
 
2013-03-14 07:47:39 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Damnit, Rhode Island, you are messing up our superior New England vibe.


The rest of New England has been saying that for centuries. Nothing to see here, move along....
 
2013-03-14 07:51:25 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Everybody in Utah is on SSRIs or tricyclic antidepressants, so are the results still valid?


Everyone knows Utah is the world's largest minimum security prison on earth.
 
2013-03-14 07:51:49 PM  
I actually quite miss the midwest.  California is making my balls itch more and more every day.  The bad itch.

People living in your freaking lap.

Please pull up under my window with your stereo loud and yap on your phone for 15 minutes.
 
2013-03-14 07:52:26 PM  
I'm not in mood to run down folks who are feeling run down, so I'm going to guess what's going on in the happy states:

HI - Fish.  Surfing.  Sea turtles.  All kinds of reasons to be happy.  You don't think folks travel thousands of miles out to tiny islands in the middle of the ocean just for the hell of it, do you?
CO - Rocky Mountain High, just like John Denver said.
MN - Still think Garrison Keillor is amusing.
UT - Mormons do tend to have sunny dispositions.
VT - No idea what goes on there.  I hear it's pretty in the fall and winter.
MT - Like Utah but without the LDS.
NE, IA - It's all good as long as the crops come in, and if they don't, you just deal.
NH - Like VT, but more irascible.
MA - Ancestors came over on the Mayflower.  Plus money.

///warning: this list was manufacted in a facility in which stereotypes may have been present
 
2013-03-14 07:52:45 PM  

noitsnot: I actually quite miss the midwest.  California is making my balls itch more and more every day.  The bad itch.

People living in your freaking lap.

Please pull up under my window with your stereo loud and yap on your phone for 15 minutes.


THIS
 
2013-03-14 07:53:01 PM  

Osomatic: I'm a fat guy who hates his job... uh oh, it must be me dragging California down into the 2nd rank.


Looking at the second map, its the southern Californians dragging down the northerners.
 
2013-03-14 07:54:25 PM  

Christian Bale: valar_morghulis: Good. fark the South and fark the Midwest. Maybe if enough suicides happen we won't be subject to their fly-over-state-stupidity.


 We are still using 19th century terminology if Ohio is a "midwest state". Get with the program, America. Dump the East Coast bias.
Two of the true midwest states (Iowa & Minnesota) rank as the least depressed, so the headline's thesis is b.s.



Ohio is a midwest state according to the US Census Bureau.

http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf
 
2013-03-14 07:55:05 PM  
Being from the South I thoroughly enjoy maps that's reinforce my ignorant prejudice stereotypes too.
 
2013-03-14 07:56:32 PM  
Grew up in the Midwest.
Moved to SF Bay Area at 26.
Moved back at 30.
Went to the grocery store to buy some avocados; found six, mushy avocados to chose from.
Moved back to SF Bay Area.
 
2013-03-14 07:56:40 PM  

Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.


I take it you've never traveled by bus through central Ohio.

///dammit, I wasn't going to make fun
//ow ow ow
 
2013-03-14 07:57:49 PM  

cold_war_relic: I call shenanigans. Illinois should be number one on the top ten list.


Why?
I'm from Chicago and even with the shiaty things happening here I am not sad or mad
/Well I'm mad about the snow shoveling ticket bullshiat but that's it
 
2013-03-14 07:58:02 PM  

Raoul Eaton: MA - Ancestors came over on the Mayflower. Plus money.


Wealthy, educated, all four major sports teams have won a championship in the past 10 years, low divorce rates, lower rates of obesity, best schools in the western hemisphere (with possibly the exception of Finland).

Massachusetts, fark yeah.
 
2013-03-14 07:58:11 PM  

lostcat: Grew up in the Midwest.
Moved to SF Bay Area at 26.
Moved back at 30.
Went to the grocery store to buy some avocados; found six, mushy avocados to chose from.
Moved back to SF Bay Area.


you must love avocados to have to put up with that.

/shudder
 
2013-03-14 07:59:30 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Anyone else notice it seems to be the stupidest parts of the country, too?


Um  EABOD
 
2013-03-14 08:01:03 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Christian Bale: valar_morghulis: Good. fark the South and fark the Midwest. Maybe if enough suicides happen we won't be subject to their fly-over-state-stupidity.


 We are still using 19th century terminology if Ohio is a "midwest state". Get with the program, America. Dump the East Coast bias.
Two of the true midwest states (Iowa & Minnesota) rank as the least depressed, so the headline's thesis is b.s.


Ohio is a midwest state according to the US Census Bureau.

http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf


If Ohio is in the midwest, does that put Pennsylvania in the "nearwest"?
 
2013-03-14 08:01:17 PM  

HeadLever: lostcat: Grew up in the Midwest.
Moved to SF Bay Area at 26.
Moved back at 30.
Went to the grocery store to buy some avocados; found six, mushy avocados to chose from.
Moved back to SF Bay Area.

you must love avocados to have to put up with that.

/shudder


I do enjoy them, but the story was indicative of my total experience. Moving back to a place where "cheese fries" (pizza without sauce) was the height of culinary expression, and I had my choice of two "Oriental" restaurants, provided I was willing to drive to the next county for one of them...I just couldn't go back to that after knowing how much was out there to explore.
 
2013-03-14 08:02:03 PM  
Thank gawd we have the coastal loonies to look after us farked up middle people.
 
2013-03-14 08:02:20 PM  

noitsnot: Cubicle Jockey: Christian Bale: valar_morghulis: Good. fark the South and fark the Midwest. Maybe if enough suicides happen we won't be subject to their fly-over-state-stupidity.


 We are still using 19th century terminology if Ohio is a "midwest state". Get with the program, America. Dump the East Coast bias.
Two of the true midwest states (Iowa & Minnesota) rank as the least depressed, so the headline's thesis is b.s.


Ohio is a midwest state according to the US Census Bureau.

http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf

If Ohio is in the midwest, does that put Pennsylvania in the "nearwest"?


Ohio is considered Midwestern.

/raised in Ohio
 
2013-03-14 08:02:42 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: As a Hoosier


Take off, eh.
 
2013-03-14 08:05:17 PM  

lostcat: I do enjoy them, but the story was indicative of my total experience. Moving back to a place where "cheese fries" (pizza without sauce) was the height of culinary expression, and I had my choice of two "Oriental" restaurants, provided I was willing to drive to the next county for one of them...I just couldn't go back to that after knowing how much was out there to explore.


Yeah, I am just joking.  Folks have differing taste and there is quite a bit to offer in Cali.  However, I am not a partial to 90% of it and have a completely different set of standards that I consider important.

For me; spent a little bit of time in the midwest and didn't hate it.  Spent a little time in Cali and there are TOO MANY DAMN PEOPLE!!!
 
2013-03-14 08:05:25 PM  

lostcat: Grew up in the Midwest.
Moved to SF Bay Area at 26.
Moved back at 30.
Went to the grocery store to buy some avocados; found six, mushy avocados to chose from.
Moved back to SF Bay Area.


I usually have rocks to pick from in Pennsylvania. Sucks when I'm in the mood for quac and not one avocado in the store is mashable.
 
2013-03-14 08:08:16 PM  
West Virginia, America's most sullen state!
 
2013-03-14 08:12:11 PM  

Nick Nostril: Thank gawd we have the coastal loonies to look after us farked up middle people.


Well, if they want to get rid of us, I hope California can supply all the food for them (surprisingly California is the largest agricultural producing states). I can't wait to see Martha Stewarts recipes when your ingredients are organic milk, cod and marijuana.
 
2013-03-14 08:13:10 PM  
West Virgina: The REAL failure pile, served in a sadness bowl!
 
2013-03-14 08:14:00 PM  

MichiganFTL: Well, if they want to get rid of us, I hope California can supply all the food for them (surprisingly California is the largest agricultural producing states). I can't wait to see Martha Stewarts recipes when your ingredients are organic milk, cod and marijuana.


Yes, we're getting along just fine in Michigan with making meals out of Bison Dollars, tears, rust and snow all boiled in a pothole on I-94.
 
2013-03-14 08:14:36 PM  

HeadLever: lostcat: I do enjoy them, but the story was indicative of my total experience. Moving back to a place where "cheese fries" (pizza without sauce) was the height of culinary expression, and I had my choice of two "Oriental" restaurants, provided I was willing to drive to the next county for one of them...I just couldn't go back to that after knowing how much was out there to explore.

Yeah, I am just joking.  Folks have differing taste and there is quite a bit to offer in Cali.  However, I am not a partial to 90% of it and have a completely different set of standards that I consider important.

For me; spent a little bit of time in the midwest and didn't hate it.  Spent a little time in Cali and there are TOO MANY DAMN PEOPLE!!!


California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.
 
2013-03-14 08:19:17 PM  

mikebdoss: HeadLever: lostcat: I do enjoy them, but the story was indicative of my total experience. Moving back to a place where "cheese fries" (pizza without sauce) was the height of culinary expression, and I had my choice of two "Oriental" restaurants, provided I was willing to drive to the next county for one of them...I just couldn't go back to that after knowing how much was out there to explore.

Yeah, I am just joking.  Folks have differing taste and there is quite a bit to offer in Cali.  However, I am not a partial to 90% of it and have a completely different set of standards that I consider important.

For me; spent a little bit of time in the midwest and didn't hate it.  Spent a little time in Cali and there are TOO MANY DAMN PEOPLE!!!

California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.


Barstow, here I come!!!!  Yee haw!
 
2013-03-14 08:21:41 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Christian Bale: valar_morghulis: Good. fark the South and fark the Midwest. Maybe if enough suicides happen we won't be subject to their fly-over-state-stupidity.


 We are still using 19th century terminology if Ohio is a "midwest state". Get with the program, America. Dump the East Coast bias.
Two of the true midwest states (Iowa & Minnesota) rank as the least depressed, so the headline's thesis is b.s.


Ohio is a midwest state according to the US Census Bureau.

http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf


As are 35% of the country's happiest states.  Where's the outcry about the despair in the Middle Atlantic?  We'd probably be better off defining it by the Nine Nations hypothesis.  Dixie and The Foundry are hurting.  The Breadbasket, not so much.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-14 08:23:30 PM  
Yayyy Wisconsin!  Grand ole Badger State!

Yeah, I still don't want to move back.
 
2013-03-14 08:29:55 PM  

MichiganFTL: Nick Nostril: Thank gawd we have the coastal loonies to look after us farked up middle people.

Well, if they want to get rid of us, I hope California can supply all the food for them (surprisingly California is the largest agricultural producing states). I can't wait to see Martha Stewarts recipes when your ingredients are organic milk, cod and marijuana.


I can see you've never sampled my utterly sublime organic milk, cod, and marijuana cupcakes.
 
2013-03-14 08:30:53 PM  
chetbango:
 I'm a fat guy who hates his job... uh oh, it must be me dragging California down into the 2nd rank.

Looking at the second map, its the southern Californians dragging down the northerners.



Damn, that's weird.  There are no pockets of happiness in SoCal.   What's up with that?
 
2013-03-14 08:31:57 PM  
America's sadness belt: Alarming map shows residents in South and Midwest are far more likely to be depressed, obese and hate their jobs

Want to know how I know the Daily Fail didn't look at the Pacific Northwest?  You know you're doing something wrong when over half the episodes of COPS were filmed in just the four Pacific Northwest states.  Consistently saddest episodes are the ones filmed in Portland, Oregon and Kodiak City, Alaska.
 
2013-03-14 08:34:11 PM  
B.S. map and poll.  Gallup polls only reach landline phones. That means the result cannot be trusted.

/not fat
//very happy
 
2013-03-14 08:34:58 PM  
 
2013-03-14 08:36:14 PM  
It isn't all the midwest that is depressed, just Ohio and those close to it.

Without the U.P. we would be more depressed.  Oh wait, we got that for not getting Toledo.

/the southern states get to blame Mississippi
 
2013-03-14 08:36:47 PM  

giftedmadness: Link


oh shiat
 
2013-03-14 08:37:39 PM  

mikebdoss: California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.


Very true.  Even though I may like to stereotypically like to cuss Cali, I have some good friends and there is some amazing country there.  For the most part, all of my trips have been to southern and coastal parts.

For the most part I like to spend time in BFE.  Hard to consider much of Cali as BFE.
 
2013-03-14 08:38:00 PM  
List from 2009:

1. Louisiana
2. Hawaii
3. Florida
4. Tennessee
5. Arizona
6. Mississippi
7. Montana
8. South Carolina
9. Alabama
10. Maine

So, apparently things vary a bit year by year....
 
2013-03-14 08:41:14 PM  
Map is accurate regarding Ohio. Ohio will drain your soul and your dreams away. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust. The very air you breathe is a poisonous fume.

//Desperately trying to escape back west to the rockies
 
2013-03-14 08:41:14 PM  

cold_war_relic: I call shenanigans. Illinois should be number one on the top ten list.


No, just Crook county.
 
2013-03-14 08:43:16 PM  

Baloo Uriza: America's sadness belt: Alarming map shows residents in South and Midwest are far more likely to be depressed, obese and hate their jobs

Want to know how I know the Daily Fail didn't look at the Pacific Northwest?  You know you're doing something wrong when over half the episodes of COPS were filmed in just the four Pacific Northwest states.  Consistently saddest episodes are the ones filmed in Portland, Oregon and Kodiak City, Alaska.


Yeah - gotta throw a big thank you out to Portland for sucking so many of the loser out of the bay area up to Oregonad
 
2013-03-14 08:44:16 PM  
I couldn't give two Farks what the experts think.
/my property tax is cheaper
/ cost of living is cheaper
/ we have Cracker Barrel
// I can has personal defense weapons
// Illinois transplant and loving it
 
2013-03-14 08:45:51 PM  

echomike23: noitsnot: I actually quite miss the midwest.  California is making my balls itch more and more every day.  The bad itch.

People living in your freaking lap.

Please pull up under my window with your stereo loud and yap on your phone for 15 minutes.

THIS


It's the height of some people's ambitions to get an iPhone and and Integra/Civic - then, they've made it. Top o'the World, baby.
 
2013-03-14 08:47:47 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: cold_war_relic: I call shenanigans. Illinois should be number one on the top ten list.

Why?
I'm from Chicago and even with the shiaty things happening here I am not sad or mad
/Well I'm mad about the snow shoveling ticket bullshiat but that's it


I don't like IL. I grew up in DeKalb county. Awful weather, asshole cops, conservative like most of the state, and nothing but cornfields as far as the eye can see. Moved to WA almost a decade ago. I wouldn't move back.
 
2013-03-14 08:49:22 PM  

Dinki: But they will continue to vote for the guy telling them that tax cuts for the rich are the only way to fix the economy.


Because, teh gheys.
 
2013-03-14 08:53:56 PM  
mikebdoss:

California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.

Sorry, no.  No, there are not.  I guess if you live in Riverside or Oxnard or Tracy or Hollister, then yeah.  You can drive 20 miles to get away.  If you live anywhere that is even remotely convenient to a good job, then no, you are boned.

And we don't measure travel in distance here - we measure it in time.  It takes 3 hours to get anywhere remote.
 
2013-03-14 08:58:46 PM  
Whoo, 4th Quintile baby! Suck on that Illinois!

Wait...how did Missouri beat Illinois at this?
 
2013-03-14 09:00:25 PM  

rugman11: Cubicle Jockey: Christian Bale: valar_morghulis: Good. fark the South and fark the Midwest. Maybe if enough suicides happen we won't be subject to their fly-over-state-stupidity.


 We are still using 19th century terminology if Ohio is a "midwest state". Get with the program, America. Dump the East Coast bias.
Two of the true midwest states (Iowa & Minnesota) rank as the least depressed, so the headline's thesis is b.s.


Ohio is a midwest state according to the US Census Bureau.

http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf

As are 35% of the country's happiest states.  Where's the outcry about the despair in the Middle Atlantic?  We'd probably be better off defining it by the Nine Nations hypothesis.  Dixie and The Foundry are hurting.  The Breadbasket, not so much.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 416x328]


We here in Ecotopia would love to be rid of the rest of you and the braindead congresscritters you keep sending to the House. Also, we have the best bud.
 
2013-03-14 09:01:40 PM  
NORTH SALT LAKE RE-PRE-SENT.
 
2013-03-14 09:02:39 PM  

rugman11: Cubicle Jockey: Christian Bale: valar_morghulis: Good. fark the South and fark the Midwest. Maybe if enough suicides happen we won't be subject to their fly-over-state-stupidity.


 We are still using 19th century terminology if Ohio is a "midwest state". Get with the program, America. Dump the East Coast bias.
Two of the true midwest states (Iowa & Minnesota) rank as the least depressed, so the headline's thesis is b.s.


Ohio is a midwest state according to the US Census Bureau.

http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf

As are 35% of the country's happiest states.  Where's the outcry about the despair in the Middle Atlantic?  We'd probably be better off defining it by the Nine Nations hypothesis.  Dixie and The Foundry are hurting.  The Breadbasket, not so much.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 416x328]


Heh...I love how they include Miami-Dade County in Florida as part of The Islands.
 
2013-03-14 09:03:27 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: To be fair, Crippling Depression is Ohio's #1 export.


"At least we're not Detroit. We're not Detroit!"

Seriously, this map is useless without county-level data.
 
2013-03-14 09:04:25 PM  

HeadLever: lostcat: Grew up in the Midwest.
Moved to SF Bay Area at 26.
Moved back at 30.
Went to the grocery store to buy some avocados; found six, mushy avocados to chose from.
Moved back to SF Bay Area.

you must love avocados to have to put up with that.


That's what the coasts do to people's values.
/The number one reason people stay in New York: bagels.
 
2013-03-14 09:04:27 PM  

rugman11: As are 35% of the country's happiest states. Where's the outcry about the despair in the Middle Atlantic? We'd probably be better off defining it by the Nine Nations hypothesis. Dixie and The Foundry are hurting. The Breadbasket, not so much


I can't say much about a lot of that map, but the guy who made it clearly didn't know much about Canada. The eastern edge of Manitoba and that chunk of Ontario north of Superior aren't Breadbasket by a long shot.
 
2013-03-14 09:05:43 PM  

noitsnot: f you live anywhere that is even remotely convenient to a good job, then no, you are boned.


It all depends upon what you definition of 'good job' is.  If that is cleaning trails or being a Smokejumper in a national forest, then you may be in luck.

If you are going to be a laywer, then maybe not.
 
2013-03-14 09:06:01 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Whoo, 4th Quintile baby! Suck on that Illinois!

Wait...how did Missouri beat Illinois at this?


No recent tornados to bring them down, and Joplin is probably rebuilt some.
 
2013-03-14 09:09:11 PM  

HeadLever: mikebdoss: California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.

Very true.  Even though I may like to stereotypically like to cuss Cali, I have some good friends and there is some amazing country there.  For the most part, all of my trips have been to southern and coastal parts.

For the most part I like to spend time in BFE.  Hard to consider much of Cali as BFE.


upload.wikimedia.org

Yeah, Cali's population distribution is sort of extreme.
 
2013-03-14 09:15:33 PM  

Raoul Eaton: mikebdoss: HeadLever: lostcat: I do enjoy them, but the story was indicative of my total experience. Moving back to a place where "cheese fries" (pizza without sauce) was the height of culinary expression, and I had my choice of two "Oriental" restaurants, provided I was willing to drive to the next county for one of them...I just couldn't go back to that after knowing how much was out there to explore.

Yeah, I am just joking.  Folks have differing taste and there is quite a bit to offer in Cali.  However, I am not a partial to 90% of it and have a completely different set of standards that I consider important.

For me; spent a little bit of time in the midwest and didn't hate it.  Spent a little time in Cali and there are TOO MANY DAMN PEOPLE!!!

California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.

Barstow, here I come!!!!  Yee haw!


What about Fresno?  Nobody goes to Fresno anymore.
 
2013-03-14 09:15:49 PM  

Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.


Give me a break.  Every other city in Ohio is Cleveland's red-headed step-child.
 
2013-03-14 09:16:20 PM  
Mostly red states. This is my shocked face.
 
2013-03-14 09:16:49 PM  

noitsnot: mikebdoss:

California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.

Sorry, no.  No, there are not.  I guess if you live in Riverside or Oxnard or Tracy or Hollister, then yeah.  You can drive 20 miles to get away.  If you live anywhere that is even remotely convenient to a good job, then no, you are boned.

And we don't measure travel in distance here - we measure it in time.  It takes 3 hours to get anywhere remote.


I live in Santa Ana. Central Orange County. Four miles from Disneyland. And guess what - just 15 miles (and 15 minutes) from me are rolling hills, wide open spaces, coastal drives, and hundreds of miles of hiking trails. Most of the LA area that's not Compton is the same way.
 
2013-03-14 09:17:22 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: These are also the states that get the most federal aid and contribute the least in taxes.  If we could jettison the 10 worst-performing states in America, this country would be great.


If only there was some way they could organize and agitate for better working conditions.
 
2013-03-14 09:20:22 PM  

noitsnot: Baloo Uriza: America's sadness belt: Alarming map shows residents in South and Midwest are far more likely to be depressed, obese and hate their jobs

Want to know how I know the Daily Fail didn't look at the Pacific Northwest?  You know you're doing something wrong when over half the episodes of COPS were filmed in just the four Pacific Northwest states.  Consistently saddest episodes are the ones filmed in Portland, Oregon and Kodiak City, Alaska.

Yeah - gotta throw a big thank you out to Portland for sucking so many of the loser out of the bay area up to Oregonad


Strangely enough, the Kodiak City and Portland episodes actually predate the Californian Invasion.
 
2013-03-14 09:20:56 PM  

ProfessorOhki: Yeah, Cali's population distribution is sort of extreme.


Here is Idaho's

upload.wikimedia.org

~35% of the state has a population density less than 1.  I grew up right in the middle of it.
 
2013-03-14 09:20:59 PM  
Want to know an interesting correlation?  Want to make prohibitionists' heads asplode?

The Gallup poll is broken out into categories.  In the "healthy behaviors" section, of the top ten states, nine have medical marijuana laws.

How 'bout that.
 
2013-03-14 09:21:50 PM  
Good woman gubbymint job that is still fun with good coworkers and 3 years til retirement living at the beach and lots of family close and every toy that has ever been wanted from A to ZWe dont need no steenking map
 
2013-03-14 09:22:16 PM  
Actually we are VERY happy in the south & midwest....it's done on purpose to make sure you
loony left wing idiots on the left coast, who have destroyed their own states, STAY PUT and don't
migrate to our unspoiled neck of the woods ;)
 
2013-03-14 09:22:22 PM  

mikebdoss: noitsnot: mikebdoss:

California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.

Sorry, no.  No, there are not.  I guess if you live in Riverside or Oxnard or Tracy or Hollister, then yeah.  You can drive 20 miles to get away.  If you live anywhere that is even remotely convenient to a good job, then no, you are boned.

And we don't measure travel in distance here - we measure it in time.  It takes 3 hours to get anywhere remote.

I live in Santa Ana. Central Orange County. Four miles from Disneyland. And guess what - just 15 miles (and 15 minutes) from me are rolling hills, wide open spaces, coastal drives, and hundreds of miles of hiking trails. Most of the LA area that's not Compton is the same way.


I think we just define things differently. I'd give ya Joshua Tree, but that's a good bit further.
 
2013-03-14 09:24:20 PM  

noitsnot: mikebdoss: noitsnot: mikebdoss:

California is HUGE. Absolutely enormous. There are plenty of places within a 20 mile drive of "too crowded" that are effectively "rural". The majority of the state is empty and open.

Sorry, no.  No, there are not.  I guess if you live in Riverside or Oxnard or Tracy or Hollister, then yeah.  You can drive 20 miles to get away.  If you live anywhere that is even remotely convenient to a good job, then no, you are boned.

And we don't measure travel in distance here - we measure it in time.  It takes 3 hours to get anywhere remote.

I live in Santa Ana. Central Orange County. Four miles from Disneyland. And guess what - just 15 miles (and 15 minutes) from me are rolling hills, wide open spaces, coastal drives, and hundreds of miles of hiking trails. Most of the LA area that's not Compton is the same way.

I think we just define things differently. I'd give ya Joshua Tree, but that's a good bit further.


And if I had to boil your post down to four words, it would be "Four miles from Disneyland".
 
2013-03-14 09:30:30 PM  

amishkarl: rugman11: As are 35% of the country's happiest states. Where's the outcry about the despair in the Middle Atlantic? We'd probably be better off defining it by the Nine Nations hypothesis. Dixie and The Foundry are hurting. The Breadbasket, not so much

I can't say much about a lot of that map, but the guy who made it clearly didn't know much about Canada. The eastern edge of Manitoba and that chunk of Ontario north of Superior aren't Breadbasket by a long shot.


The book was written 30 years ago.  Maybe it was more so then?  A lot of things have changed since then, I just thought it fit well the split in the survey between "Foundry Midwest" and "Breadbasket Midwest."
 
2013-03-14 09:30:49 PM  
None of those in the 5th quintile are Midwestern states IMHO.

I see east central, south, deep south and whatever the hell Oklahoma is (I'd call it a western state).

This isnt 1803.

/ Minnesotan
// apparently I'm trim and happy
 
2013-03-14 09:30:57 PM  

T.rex: Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.

Give me a break.  Every other city in Ohio is Cleveland's red-headed step-child.


Only a Clevelander would say that. Columbus and Cinci are paying for your town's continuous fail streak.

/no wonder we're biatchy.
//not depressed
///not obese
////hate my job tho
 
2013-03-14 09:32:55 PM  

mikebdoss: I live in Santa Ana. Central Orange County. Four miles from Disneyland. And guess what - just 15 miles (and 15 minutes) from me are rolling hills, wide open spaces, coastal drives, and hundreds of miles of hiking trails.


That is good for most.  However when I go out, I enjoy not seeing many people as well.  I was in Denver for a few years and you can hike for 10 miles back in the mountains and away from any road - and it would still be crowded :(


Still places I can go here where I can guarantee that you will hike for 20 miles and never see a single soul.  For me, I have never really been able to enjoy the outdoors unless I can mostly get away from others.  That is kind of why I do my best to stay away from places like Yellowstone and RMNP.
 
2013-03-14 09:34:10 PM  

sheep snorter: Since when do fat lazy depressed teabagers have jobs?

Oh and going out to the mailbox on your Obama paid motorscooter is not a job.

And sucking off their third cousin is not a job either, unless they get paid the going rate of possum and grits plus a chicken.


wonkette.com

OK so the anti-Obama Teabaggers are buying hover-rounds from Obama.

RIGHT.


...did those bastards at JPL re-wire my sarc meter backwards???
 
2013-03-14 09:35:21 PM  

p51d007: Actually we are VERY happy in the south & midwest....it's done on purpose to make sure you
loony left wing idiots on the left coast, who have destroyed their own states, STAY PUT and don't
migrate to our unspoiled neck of the woods ;)


Of course. Fat people are supposed to be jolly.

/ I keed, I keed
// am also fat and happy
/// in CA
 
2013-03-14 09:37:51 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: As a Hoosier ... I'm happy, healthy and love my job. Then again, I got an education to get the job I wanted and live healthy.
But I'm an atheist, liberal so what do I know.


Ditto except I'm from Missouri...

I love to travel and I can think of about 1000 other places where I would be very happy to live. But I'm very happy to live here, the cost of living is low, I have job I like, and my family is here.

/but yea the artichokes in the supermarket are gross looking
 
2013-03-14 09:45:36 PM  
We live in the Midwest. Neither are obese. She loves her job; I detest mine. She's not depressed; I hide mine.
 
2013-03-14 09:47:20 PM  

HeadLever: ProfessorOhki: Yeah, Cali's population distribution is sort of extreme.

Here is Idaho's

[upload.wikimedia.org image 600x600]

~35% of the state has a population density less than 1.  I grew up right in the middle of it.


Yeah, I knew Idaho was an isolated redneck wasteland, but this piqued my curiosity.  It makes Oklahoma look downright metropolitan.

upload.wikimedia.org

Heck, it makes Oregon look metropolitan, and that state's got 20 quite large, basically empty counties.  Seriously, drive Boise to Portland on US 26 at the right time of day, you can make it through daylight without seeing another soul the entire length.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-14 09:48:14 PM  
What is wrong with you people?  This thread reeks of hatred and bigotry.  Regional tribalism is such pathetic bullshiat.
 
2013-03-14 09:52:44 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: What is wrong with you people?  This thread reeks of hatred and bigotry.  Regional tribalism is such pathetic bullshiat.


Did someone just get butthurt we're busting this article published in a paper written by people who, in all likelihood, haven't ever set foot on this continent, with real world observation and statistical analysis?
 
2013-03-14 09:56:59 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Fish in a Barrel: What is wrong with you people?  This thread reeks of hatred and bigotry.  Regional tribalism is such pathetic bullshiat.

Did someone just get butthurt we're busting this article published in a paper written by people who, in all likelihood, haven't ever set foot on this continent, with real world observation and statistical analysis?




You might need an editor.
 
2013-03-14 10:00:41 PM  
And yet Montana has the second highest suicide rate per capita.....

Meh, fark statistics.
 
2013-03-14 10:01:16 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Yeah, I knew Idaho was an isolated redneck wasteland, but this piqued my curiosity.  It makes Oklahoma look downright metropolitan.


yep, redneck hillbillies and noting here but sagebrush and rocks.  Spread the word.
 
2013-03-14 10:01:41 PM  
Does this survey include Indians and Eskimos? Because besides dumb white people killing themselves Oklahoma and Alaska have another problem...
 
2013-03-14 10:06:12 PM  

Dreyelle: I live in Georgia.  It's not West Virginia.  So I got that going for me.


Or Mississippi! We got that going for us too!
 
2013-03-14 10:08:00 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Heck, it makes Oregon look metropolitan,


Look at how Eastern Oregon and SW Idaho match up to make one big chunk of ....  of.... well, BLM.
 
2013-03-14 10:11:46 PM  
Right and these are the same pile of sad sack assholes trying to fark the rest of the nation with their farking politics. Fark 'em. Bury them, they are dead anyway. Farking assholes.
 
2013-03-14 10:13:14 PM  

Choestoe: Dreyelle: I live in Georgia.  It's not West Virginia.  So I got that going for me.

Or Mississippi! We got that going for us too!


Or Arkansas! Let's not forget our miserable-ass brothers and sisters there.

/fat
//depressed
///hate job
 
2013-03-14 10:13:59 PM  

Dreyelle: I live in Georgia.  It's not West Virginia.  So I got that going for me.


Thank Atlanta for that. Otherwise it's just another Alabama.
 
2013-03-14 10:14:50 PM  

JerkyMeat: Right and these are the same pile of sad sack assholes trying to fark the rest of the nation with their farking politics. Fark 'em. Bury them, they are dead anyway. Farking assholes.


lol, you mad?  Let me guess. . . Indiana?

*Checks Profile*  Damn.  Why are you so grumpy?  You'r supposed to be green.
 
2013-03-14 10:16:50 PM  
I'd like to thank this post for reminding me that I'm not alone in the life is suffering, fark everyone, philosophy.
 
2013-03-14 10:20:30 PM  
I live in what most ignorant folks call "the South" and I have to poop now.
 
2013-03-14 10:25:38 PM  
Midwest.  What an odd name for a region in the eastern portion of your country.  Wouldn't Middle East be more accurate?
 
2013-03-14 10:26:03 PM  

MrHappyRotter: I live in what most folks call "the ignorant South" and I have to poop now.


/FTFM
 
2013-03-14 10:27:25 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: To be fair, Crippling Depression is Ohio's #1 export.


They have a factory and everything:

i.qkme.me
 
2013-03-14 10:38:11 PM  
You know where a lot of people live that don't hate their jobs?  Sheepletown.

/i just sheepled
 
2013-03-14 10:49:54 PM  

HeadLever: ProfessorOhki: Yeah, Cali's population distribution is sort of extreme.

Here is Idaho's



~35% of the state has a population density less than 1.  I grew up right in the middle of it.


This is why I settled down in Idaho (grew up in IL and OH). I live in the big red splotch but I can drive an hour and be all by myself in God's country. Or desert and sagebrush, but that's ok too.
 
2013-03-14 10:56:54 PM  
How's that old fashioned religion treatin y'all?
I can say that cause I'm a southerner and went to an independent fundamentalist baptist school for 3 years.
 
2013-03-14 11:03:40 PM  

revrendjim: HeadLever: ProfessorOhki: Yeah, Cali's population distribution is sort of extreme.

Here is Idaho's

~35% of the state has a population density less than 1.  I grew up right in the middle of it.

This is why I settled down in Idaho (grew up in IL and OH). I live in the big red splotch but I can drive an hour and be all by myself in God's country. Or desert and sagebrush, but that's ok too.


Yeah, I now live in that big red splotch on the SW side.  Kind of mandatory since engineering is my career.  Oh well, I still get back to 'God's Country" every chance I get.  My heart never left.
 
2013-03-14 11:07:52 PM  
t2.gstatic.com
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-03-14 11:09:23 PM  
so let me get this straight....
the bible belt:
highest depression rates
highest obesity rates
lowest high school graduation percentage
lowest % of insured
high welfare
most funds spent on abstinence only
highest teen pregnancy rates
super wacky religious

WOW SOUNDS AWESOME!
 
2013-03-14 11:12:07 PM  

HeadLever: Baloo Uriza: Yeah, I knew Idaho was an isolated redneck wasteland, but this piqued my curiosity.  It makes Oklahoma look downright metropolitan.

yep, redneck hillbillies and noting here but sagebrush and rocks.  Spread the word.


I think your white supremacists are doing a good job on that.  But would you mind keeping them the hell away from Portland for a change?
 
2013-03-14 11:14:09 PM  

FARK rebel soldier: Does this survey include Indians and Eskimos? Because besides dumb white people killing themselves Oklahoma and Alaska have another problem...


Oklahoma isn't anywhere near as severe as Alaska.  Unless you count the number of indian vets neglected by the USVA, but that's less tribal issues and more about how Uncle Sam is throwing away vets.
 
2013-03-14 11:15:24 PM  

HeadLever: Baloo Uriza: Heck, it makes Oregon look metropolitan,

Look at how Eastern Oregon and SW Idaho match up to make one big chunk of ....  of.... well, BLM.


And some of the most screwed tribes around.  Warm Springs has basically no natural resources whatsoever, and the BIA played a dirty hand and screwed the Klamath out of their land.
 
2013-03-14 11:16:56 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Anyone else notice it seems to be the stupidest parts of the country, too?


And the poorest?
 
2013-03-14 11:18:12 PM  

Baloo Uriza: I think your white supremacists are doing a good job on that.


Damn, I forgot our skinheads.  Yep, don't forget them.  Don't mind what happened in 2001 or anything, though.  That is a conspiracy  They are still there according to a buddy of mine.
 
2013-03-14 11:18:57 PM  
It's kind of cool picking out all of the cities by their little splotches of red or yellow.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-03-14 11:19:36 PM  
Fat man, with depression issues that is currently working crazy-ass hours at a job 63.5 miles away that is slowly being eroded into a button-pusher job by Time-Warner Cable.

I live in Kentucky.
I'm drinking again tonight.

Seriously thinking about saying fark it and move to Austin, TX.
 
2013-03-14 11:19:59 PM  
Wait, so if the Daily Fail says so, does this mean I'm the exception to the rule?

I'm not depressed.
I'm generally happy with my job.
And I live in the city that has the best food in the nation.
 
2013-03-14 11:27:36 PM  

Baloo Uriza: And some of the most screwed tribes around.  Warm Springs has basically no natural resources whatsoever, and the BIA played a dirty hand and screwed the Klamath out of their land.

 
2013-03-14 11:28:21 PM  
Raoul Eaton:

Barstow, here I come!!!!  Yee haw!

Better than Needles.

\*shudder*
 
2013-03-14 11:29:16 PM  

bionicjoe: I live in Kentucky.
I'm drinking again tonight.


You are what is wrong with AmeriKa

Sorry for your hard ship...
 
2013-03-14 11:30:04 PM  

Baloo Uriza: Warm Springs has basically no natural resources whatsoever, and the BIA played a dirty hand and screwed the Klamath out of their land.


So..... just like any other reservation in the Intermountain West?
 
2013-03-14 11:43:36 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: As a Hoosier ... I'm happy, healthy and love my job. Then again, I got an education to get the job I wanted and live healthy.
But I'm an atheist, liberal so what do I know.


Then you should charge admission for glances upon your glorious countenance.
 
2013-03-14 11:51:16 PM  
SF Bay Area is looking pretty green. Such a gay olde place. We eat our share of wieners here, I can tell you.
 
2013-03-14 11:54:45 PM  
Science newsflash:  Hotter weather affects mood negatively.   Many studies show in increase in depression, aggression, and violent crime as average daily temperature increases.  Other studies have shown that higher humidity also affects mood by lowering how energetic and vigorous a person feels.

Sorry guys.

But feel free to claim some people are superior because of where they live.  Lol.
 
2013-03-14 11:59:27 PM  

HeadLever: Baloo Uriza: Warm Springs has basically no natural resources whatsoever, and the BIA played a dirty hand and screwed the Klamath out of their land.

So..... just like any other reservation in the Intermountain West?


Not quite, for the most part.  At least the tribes in Oklahoma got a surprising degree of sovereignty, and the big three (Cherokee, Choctaw, Muscogee) ended up getting the last laugh since they're sitting on various parts of an oil deposit that makes Saudi Arabia look like Pennsylvania.  Then there's my tribe (Cherokee), which not only is in the oil industry (ConocoPhillips has had several Cherokee CEOs and has always been one degree of separation or less from the tribe) is also a major player in defense (cruise missiles), communications hardware (switches, racks, etc), manufacturing, logistics and entertainment (including Cherokee Casinos and Hard Rock Casinos).

Then there's the Navajo, which save for long-simmering and ongoing territorial issues with the Hopi, largely got their land back after the European settlers didn't know what the fark a desert was, much less how to live in it...

That's not to say that it's entirely sunshine and roses, we're talking about doing pretty well for being the subject of 200+ years of systematic genocide, some pieces of which, like the CDIB system the BIA insists on for all tribes, are still in place...

/$2.959/gal if you know where to look, 70¢ more if you don't.
//And that's that's high for here
 
2013-03-15 12:14:14 AM  
West Virginia is now considered the south or midwest?  In today's society if you're miserable where you're at then get off your ass and move.
 
2013-03-15 12:35:07 AM  

bionicjoe: Fat man, with depression issues that is currently working crazy-ass hours at a job 63.5 miles away that is slowly being eroded into a button-pusher job by Time-Warner Cable.

I live in Kentucky.
I'm drinking again tonight.

Seriously thinking about saying fark it and move to Austin, TX.


Spent 10 years in Western KY/TN. Back in Colorado. Sunshine. Panoramic views. Civilization. Getting undepressed quickly.
 
2013-03-15 12:39:56 AM  
Wait, there are JOBS in Illinois? where? I would feel lucky to have a job that i hated.
 
2013-03-15 12:45:16 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: West Virginia is now considered the south or midwest?  In today's society if you're miserable where you're at then get off your ass and move.


That's why West Virginia's #1 export is its children.

/West Virginian by birth
 
2013-03-15 01:16:52 AM  

Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.


Their football stadium is called the Factory of Sadness for a reason.
 
2013-03-15 01:48:51 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Science newsflash:  Hotter weather affects mood negatively.   Many studies show in increase in depression, aggression, and violent crime as average daily temperature increases.  Other studies have shown that higher humidity also affects mood by lowering how energetic and vigorous a person feels.

Sorry guys.

But feel free to claim some people are superior because of where they live.  Lol.


Well, yeah, they were smart enough to move away from the hot places.
 
2013-03-15 01:55:34 AM  
But they loves that ebony porn
 
2013-03-15 02:04:05 AM  
Cubicle Jockey Your "schools" or any in the US are not even on the same planet as Finland.

Actually the US is not even in the top ten.

No homework ever, no standardized tests and no more than 12 kids per class.

America's solution....free breakfasts, fifty kids per class, go to school year round and standardized tests.   bwhahahahahahaaa!!!  Absolute farking losers.
 
2013-03-15 02:19:01 AM  

bostonowns: so let me get this straight....
the bible belt:
highest depression rates
highest obesity rates
lowest high school graduation percentage
lowest % of insured
high welfare
most funds spent on abstinence only
highest teen pregnancy rates
super wacky religious

WOW SOUNDS AWESOME!


Yes, but are they ignorant sacks of blubber because they are religious, or are they religious because they are ignorant sacks of blubber?
 
2013-03-15 03:03:58 AM  
Ok, now I know this map is inaccurate... Houston is a dumping ground, and more and more people are obese there... least they got Dallas right.
 
2013-03-15 03:11:36 AM  
www.immortalmusic.net
Here's a better overlay.
 
2013-03-15 04:00:03 AM  
Alarming Unsurprising map...
 
2013-03-15 04:45:25 AM  

rugman11: The book was written 30 years ago. Maybe it was more so then? A lot of things have changed since then, I just thought it fit well the split in the survey between "Foundry Midwest" and "Breadbasket Midwest


Naw, That part of Canada is rock, swamp and trees. It's the edge of the Canadian Shield. Its difficult to grow anything there, definitely not breadbasket material. If anything, it should be labeled as empty quarter.

You're probably right about the way it splits the medwest though
 
2013-03-15 04:46:52 AM  

Cubicle Jockey: Damnit, Rhode Island, you are messing up our superior New England vibe.


Rhode Island's just jealous because they're so small, and want to be more like Florida.
 
2013-03-15 06:22:39 AM  

bostonowns: so let me get this straight....
the bible belt:
highest depression rates
highest obesity rates
lowest high school graduation percentage
lowest % of insured
high welfare
most funds spent on abstinence only
highest teen pregnancy rates
super wacky religious

WOW SOUNDS AWESOME!


wow, you made up a ton of stats there

citation, please
 
2013-03-15 07:26:22 AM  
And what are the demographics of the south, and west?

There is your answer.
 
2013-03-15 07:41:45 AM  

Dinki: But they will continue to vote for the guy telling them that tax cuts for the rich are the only way to fix the economy.


Well the party also promotes business growth while the other side stifles business growth unless its union backed and paid for with votes.

But still we are just resigning ourselves to the fact hell like weather is coming so we stay inside for the AC and order pizza.
 
2013-03-15 07:42:19 AM  
i would be depressed if i didn't go trip at least once a week
 
2013-03-15 08:22:50 AM  

bionicjoe: Fat man, with depression issues that is currently working crazy-ass hours at a job 63.5 miles away that is slowly being eroded into a button-pusher job by Time-Warner Cable.

I live in Kentucky.
I'm drinking again tonight.

Seriously thinking about saying fark it and move to Austin, TX.


Got out of my head!
I've been thinking of saying fark it and moving to Austin, too!
 
2013-03-15 08:23:17 AM  

valar_morghulis: Good. fark the South and fark the Midwest. Maybe if enough suicides happen we won't be subject to their fly-over-state-stupidity.


Dude....your profile says you're from Florida

/people in glass houses etc
 
2013-03-15 09:01:33 AM  

ITGreen: BunkyBrewman: Thanks Obama

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Anyone else notice it seems to be the stupidest parts of the country, too?

Godscrack: What a coincidence. They're the same states that are the most conservative and religious.

And racist. And homophobic. And sexist
.

Came for a sampling of these.


Don't forget to point out that a lot of blacks and Hispanics live down here too.  Can't forget to call them stupid and racist, can we?
 
2013-03-15 10:19:39 AM  

People_are_Idiots: [www.immortalmusic.net image 850x581]
Here's a better overlay.


Not sure what I'm looking at on this one.
 
2013-03-15 11:13:16 AM  
So the map is saying that there's lots of whiners and crysacks around those parts?

As my good friend Andy, Andy Dufresne would say: You either get busy livin'... or get busy dyin'.
 
2013-03-15 12:02:54 PM  

Baloo Uriza: People_are_Idiots: [www.immortalmusic.net image 850x581]
Here's a better overlay.

Not sure what I'm looking at on this one.


Basically put both maps together. The green spots show happiness, right?
 
2013-03-15 12:32:58 PM  
2 out of 3 ain't bad...now I just have to find a job, and I can join the status quo.
 
2013-03-15 12:40:13 PM  

CognaciousThunk: T.rex: Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.

Give me a break.  Every other city in Ohio is Cleveland's red-headed step-child.

Only a Clevelander would say that. Columbus and Cinci are paying for your town's continuous fail streak.

/no wonder we're biatchy.
//not depressed
///not obese
////hate my job tho


Paying 'how'?   Cinci is hicksville and Columbus is a college town.   Neither of those have anything on a major metropolis like Cleveland, sorry.
 
2013-03-15 01:41:30 PM  

chetbango: Osomatic: I'm a fat guy who hates his job... uh oh, it must be me dragging California down into the 2nd rank.

Looking at the second map, its the southern Californians dragging down the northerners.


Maybe.  But we're financing their lifestyles, so I don't want to hear any whining about it from them.
 
2013-03-15 01:44:41 PM  

T.rex: CognaciousThunk: T.rex: Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.

Give me a break.  Every other city in Ohio is Cleveland's red-headed step-child.

Only a Clevelander would say that. Columbus and Cinci are paying for your town's continuous fail streak.

/no wonder we're biatchy.
//not depressed
///not obese
////hate my job tho

Paying 'how'?   Cinci is hicksville and Columbus is a college town.   Neither of those have anything on a major metropolis like Cleveland, sorry.


Ohio metro area sizes 2012:

 
Cincinnati: 2.12M

Cleveland: 2.06M

Columbus: 1.94M (the above numbers are metro areas, not city sizes, and notably Columbus doesn't have the population bump advantage of a satellite city (e.g., Akron) that adds to the population number but adds nothing else)

 
So, Cincinnati is actually bigger than Cleveland, and "Cleveland" (with Akron) is a whole 6% bigger than Columbus.

 
I lived in California and on the east coast for many years, then grew up and wanted to move back to Ohio because, when you realize that judging a place based primarily on the opinions of (1) people who have never been there or (2) are from there and desperately trying to substitute a new zip code for accomplishment and identity, you realize that Ohio is a great place to live with a lot to offer. That said, being from none of the "three Cs" originally, I did careful due diligence when I decided to move back, and Columbus was the clear winner. Cincinnati was second based on impressive quirk factor. I don't hate on Cleveland, it has a lot to offer (really), but it's (1) not meaningfully bigger than the other two; (2) not as prosperous Columbus; and (3) not as weirdly interesting as Cincintucky.

 
/mostly opinion

//worth little

///like the other opinions in this thread

//except for the awesome Cali dudes
/who are awesome (and were probably born in Indiana)
 
2013-03-15 04:27:32 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: To be fair, Crippling Depression is Ohio's #1 export.


Mass produced in Cleveland
 
2013-03-15 04:41:05 PM  

T.rex: CognaciousThunk: T.rex: Kygz: Not fair. Cleveland is bringing the whole state of Ohio into the red.

Give me a break.  Every other city in Ohio is Cleveland's red-headed step-child.

Only a Clevelander would say that. Columbus and Cinci are paying for your town's continuous fail streak.

/no wonder we're biatchy.
//not depressed
///not obese
////hate my job tho

Paying 'how'?   Cinci is hicksville and Columbus is a college town.   Neither of those have anything on a major metropolis like Cleveland, sorry.


Major metropolis..PFFFTTTT. Major derptopolis that closes at 8 on weekdays and 10 on weekends.
 
2013-03-15 06:51:56 PM  

People_are_Idiots: Baloo Uriza: People_are_Idiots: [www.immortalmusic.net image 850x581]
Here's a better overlay.

Not sure what I'm looking at on this one.

Basically put both maps together. The green spots show happiness, right?


Depends.  In Oregon, the extremely rural areas tend to have some very real issues in terms of cost of living, quality of life and wages.  Bonus points: There's not a whole lot in terms of social venues or the critical mass to come together and protest on a visible scale (as cows outnumber people by an overwhelming margin, and there's just not that many cows in the desert).  Rural Oklahoma, you're rarely more than 15 miles from significant population.
 
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