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2013-03-14 08:26:09 PM  

Silly Jesus: Weaver95: Silly Jesus: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

I *really* hope the GOP takes this sort of attitude.  that would be AWESOME!

What attitude is that?  Acknowledging facts?  I thought libby libs liked that attitude.  Which is it?


hey, i'm not gonna correct you.  I *want* to to act like a dick towards poor people.  call 'em slaves, insult their intelligence.  then ask them to vote for you!  great stuff.
 
2013-03-14 08:26:19 PM  

Silly Jesus: NotARocketScientist: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

47% of US adults get a government hand out, but the unemployment rate is only 10-20%, so that means 27-37% of the country IS WORKING FULL TIME AND IS STILL BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. Doesn't that bother you at all?

Does it bother me that so many people have no skills?  Yes.  Very much so.  I pay for their laziness.


Here comes the derp...
 
2013-03-14 08:26:42 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: If he had simply not been an entitled, elitist dick...


Have you been to Boca Raton?
 
2013-03-14 08:26:55 PM  

goatleggedfellow: Silly Jesus: NotARocketScientist: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

47% of US adults get a government hand out, but the unemployment rate is only 10-20%, so that means 27-37% of the country IS WORKING FULL TIME AND IS STILL BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. Doesn't that bother you at all?

Does it bother me that so many people have no skills?  Yes.  Very much so.  I pay for their laziness.

Welcome to the free market. Everyone looks at those below them as undeserving, unskilled, and lazy. Maybe you'd be happier if we were all be slaves to one Ubermensch.

Also, unless you were raised by wolves, you benefited from your ancestors' work. They provided you with opportunity. Now if only there were a large segment of American society that had all their opportunity stolen, leaving almost nothing to pass down...


So having 8 babies while being unmarried and living off of a check from the government is "BECAUSE SLAVERY!!"?
 
2013-03-14 08:28:08 PM  

Weaver95: Silly Jesus: Weaver95: Silly Jesus: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

I *really* hope the GOP takes this sort of attitude.  that would be AWESOME!

What attitude is that?  Acknowledging facts?  I thought libby libs liked that attitude.  Which is it?

hey, i'm not gonna correct you.  I *want* to to act like a dick towards poor people.  call 'em slaves, insult their intelligence.  then ask them to vote for you!  great stuff.


I wasn't aware that I was running for office...or, if I were, that I'd be asking for the vote of the worthless.
 
2013-03-14 08:28:43 PM  

Silly Jesus: So having 8 babies while being unmarried and living off of a check from the government is "BECAUSE SLAVERY!!"?


I don't see anything in there mentioning slavery. Nor does it mention that having 8 babies is the norm for welfare recipients.
 
2013-03-14 08:28:52 PM  

Turbo Cojones: Silly Jesus: NotARocketScientist: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

47% of US adults get a government hand out, but the unemployment rate is only 10-20%, so that means 27-37% of the country IS WORKING FULL TIME AND IS STILL BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. Doesn't that bother you at all?

Does it bother me that so many people have no skills?  Yes.  Very much so.  I pay for their laziness.

Here comes the derp...


I'm waiting...

Don't make promises and then withhold.  Not cool.
 
2013-03-14 08:29:44 PM  

Silly Jesus: or, if I were, that I'd be asking for the vote of the worthless.


So you wouldn't be running as a Republican?
 
2013-03-14 08:30:18 PM  

Mentat: I think that interview pretty much confirmed everything we thought about Romney.  I can see Clinton taking time to greet the staff while Romney and his buddies ignore them.  Even if Clinton is disingenuous, at least he has enough empathy to realize that pressing the common flesh is good politics.


It becomes more disingenuous when you realize that greeting the staff helps him find a hook up for the evening, be it hard drugs or soft women.
 
2013-03-14 08:30:47 PM  

NotARocketScientist: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

47% of US adults get a government hand out, but the unemployment rate is only 10-20%, so that means 27-37% of the country IS WORKING FULL TIME AND IS STILL BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. Doesn't that bother you at all?


I wonder how much of it has nothing to do with the poverty line. Probably only a small amount. When I was in the army, I didn't pay taxes on the income I earned while deployed.  Nearly half of my military stint was in a war zone of some sort. So all deployed military aren't paying those taxes. They are a part of that 47%. Then I went to college, and the federal grants and scholarships weren't taxed.  The GI Bill wasn't taxed.  So all students who live off of grants, scholarships, or military education benefits aren't paying taxes. They are a part of that 47%. I just found out I was accepted into a PhD program (I start next fall, yay!), and with that comes a stipend for living expenses. I wonder if that will be taxed, or if grad students are all a part of that 47 percent.
 
2013-03-14 08:30:53 PM  
Silly Jesus:

I wasn't aware that I was running for office...or, if I were, that I'd be asking for the vote of the worthless.

make sure that when you mistreat poor people that you do so openly.  because THAT will NEVER come back to haunt you later in life.  I'm also hoping that this imperial attitude of yours is common among senior GOP officials.  hey, it turned out great for the Romney campaign, right?  gotta figure that being insulting dick holes towards most of the voters in the country will work in 2016.

rock on man!  you keep right on being you.  I never want you to change!
 
2013-03-14 08:31:48 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Silly Jesus: So having 8 babies while being unmarried and living off of a check from the government is "BECAUSE SLAVERY!!"?

I don't see anything in there mentioning slavery. Nor does it mention that having 8 babies is the norm for welfare recipients.


It's conditioned response. Years of talk radio and idiot relatives have gotten SJ to immediately associate "welfare" with "unmarried black woman with 8 kids who drives a Cadillac and has a big screen TV, paid for by taxpayers."

Atwater would be proud.
 
2013-03-14 08:33:10 PM  

stoli n coke: cameroncrazy1984: Silly Jesus: So having 8 babies while being unmarried and living off of a check from the government is "BECAUSE SLAVERY!!"?

I don't see anything in there mentioning slavery. Nor does it mention that having 8 babies is the norm for welfare recipients.

It's conditioned response. Years of talk radio and idiot relatives have gotten SJ to immediately associate "welfare" with "unmarried black woman with 8 kids who drives a Cadillac and has a big screen TV, paid for by taxpayers."

Atwater would be proud.


I *really* hope his attitude is common among the GOP.  it will make things ever so much easier down the road.
 
2013-03-14 08:34:08 PM  

mgshamster: NotARocketScientist: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

47% of US adults get a government hand out, but the unemployment rate is only 10-20%, so that means 27-37% of the country IS WORKING FULL TIME AND IS STILL BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. Doesn't that bother you at all?

I wonder how much of it has nothing to do with the poverty line. Probably only a small amount. When I was in the army, I didn't pay taxes on the income I earned while deployed.  Nearly half of my military stint was in a war zone of some sort. So all deployed military aren't paying those taxes. They are a part of that 47%. Then I went to college, and the federal grants and scholarships weren't taxed.  The GI Bill wasn't taxed.  So all students who live off of grants, scholarships, or military education benefits aren't paying taxes. They are a part of that 47%. I just found out I was accepted into a PhD program (I start next fall, yay!), and with that comes a stipend for living expenses. I wonder if that will be taxed, or if grad students are all a part of that 47 percent.


FYI, grad student stipends are taxed.

/Grad student.
 
2013-03-14 08:34:59 PM  

Weaver95: Silly Jesus:

I wasn't aware that I was running for office...or, if I were, that I'd be asking for the vote of the worthless.

make sure that when you mistreat poor people that you do so openly.  because THAT will NEVER come back to haunt you later in life.  I'm also hoping that this imperial attitude of yours is common among senior GOP officials.  hey, it turned out great for the Romney campaign, right?  gotta figure that being insulting dick holes towards most of the voters in the country will work in 2016.

rock on man!  you keep right on being you.  I never want you to change!


I'm conservative now?  You're really smart.  You should be the one running for office.

And yes, I will always think that the worthless are worthless.  I'm glad that you are able to dismiss reality and allow your heart to bleed for them.  The scourge on society that they are.  Imagine the progress that we could make if fewer people were in the cart and more were pulling?  And if people like you didn't hand out step ladders for people to climb into the cart....
 
2013-03-14 08:35:27 PM  

TheSopwithTurtle: mgshamster: NotARocketScientist: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

47% of US adults get a government hand out, but the unemployment rate is only 10-20%, so that means 27-37% of the country IS WORKING FULL TIME AND IS STILL BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. Doesn't that bother you at all?

I wonder how much of it has nothing to do with the poverty line. Probably only a small amount. When I was in the army, I didn't pay taxes on the income I earned while deployed.  Nearly half of my military stint was in a war zone of some sort. So all deployed military aren't paying those taxes. They are a part of that 47%. Then I went to college, and the federal grants and scholarships weren't taxed.  The GI Bill wasn't taxed.  So all students who live off of grants, scholarships, or military education benefits aren't paying taxes. They are a part of that 47%. I just found out I was accepted into a PhD program (I start next fall, yay!), and with that comes a stipend for living expenses. I wonder if that will be taxed, or if grad students are all a part of that 47 percent.

FYI, grad student stipends are taxed.

/Grad student.


Also, congratulations!
 
2013-03-14 08:36:05 PM  

stoli n coke: cameroncrazy1984: Silly Jesus: So having 8 babies while being unmarried and living off of a check from the government is "BECAUSE SLAVERY!!"?

I don't see anything in there mentioning slavery. Nor does it mention that having 8 babies is the norm for welfare recipients.

It's conditioned response. Years of talk radio and idiot relatives have gotten SJ to immediately associate "welfare" with "unmarried black woman with 8 kids who drives a Cadillac and has a big screen TV, paid for by taxpayers."

Atwater would be proud.


Do you have a citation showing that that's incorrect?
 
2013-03-14 08:36:31 PM  
Silly Jesus:

And yes, I will always think that the worthless are worthless.  I'm glad that you are able to dismiss reality and allow your heart to bleed for them.  The scourge on society that they are.  Imagine the progress that we could make if fewer people were in the cart and more were pulling?  And if people like you didn't hand out step ladders for people to climb into the cart....

see - this is great!  you should make sure everyone in the room knows how much you hate poor people.  that's just too cool for words!
 
2013-03-14 08:38:00 PM  

Weaver95: Silly Jesus:

And yes, I will always think that the worthless are worthless.  I'm glad that you are able to dismiss reality and allow your heart to bleed for them.  The scourge on society that they are.  Imagine the progress that we could make if fewer people were in the cart and more were pulling?  And if people like you didn't hand out step ladders for people to climb into the cart....

see - this is great!  you should make sure everyone in the room knows how much you hate poor people.  that's just too cool for words!


Loving societal and evolutionary rejects is an odd hobby.
 
2013-03-14 08:38:41 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: stoli n coke:

15% is standard, 25% is classy, and 30% guarantees your drink is waiting for you before you get to the bar.

Plus, it's just a good idea not to piss off the people handling your food and drinks.

This, especially if you are a regular at a small mom and pop place.


I love how servers have turned into the Mafia.  "Nice immune system you have there... be a shame if anything happened to it.  Now fark you, pay me."

Ah, well, it doesn't matter to me anymore.  When I became a genuine egalitarian, I stopped letting people be my servants.
 
2013-03-14 08:39:49 PM  
Silly Jesus:
Loving societal and evolutionary rejects is an odd hobby.

true.  only useless hippies help the poor and heal the sick.  nobody you'd like, i'm sure.
 
2013-03-14 08:39:50 PM  
Here's a graph proving Silly Jesus's point

growlersoftware.com
 
2013-03-14 08:39:52 PM  
I was told that you can tell the character of a man by the way he treats animals.
 
2013-03-14 08:40:53 PM  

Silly Jesus: Weaver95: Silly Jesus:

I wasn't aware that I was running for office...or, if I were, that I'd be asking for the vote of the worthless.

make sure that when you mistreat poor people that you do so openly.  because THAT will NEVER come back to haunt you later in life.  I'm also hoping that this imperial attitude of yours is common among senior GOP officials.  hey, it turned out great for the Romney campaign, right?  gotta figure that being insulting dick holes towards most of the voters in the country will work in 2016.

rock on man!  you keep right on being you.  I never want you to change!

I'm conservative now?  You're really smart.  You should be the one running for office.

And yes, I will always think that the worthless are worthless.  I'm glad that you are able to dismiss reality and allow your heart to bleed for them.  The scourge on society that they are.  Imagine the progress that we could make if fewer people were in the cart and more were pulling?  And if people like you didn't hand out step ladders for people to climb into the cart....


You would fit in quite well in Boca Raton.
 
2013-03-14 08:41:05 PM  

Silly Jesus: clambam: Silly Jesus: clambam: Silly Jesus: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

Wow, really? There's an actual academic study that confirms the welfare state is a slave plantation? I believe you! Shout it from the rooftops!

Essentially, yes.

Finding a job, wedding and stopping having kids are all discouraged.

Citation needed. It's funny how you folks can call a group of voters who essentially control electoral outcomes at this point a bunch of freeloading losers and then act surprised when they fail to vote the way you want them to. Has it occurred to you that, rather than them being parasites you think they are, you people might be just kind of stupid?

Here's the best article I found on it.  A link to the actual study (PDF) is at the bottom.

You folks?  What kinda folk am I?

So they aren't parasites?  How so?

I'm stupid because the study confirms what I've been saying?  Interdasting!

You seem smrt.


No, you're stupid because you think you can insult the people who determined the winner of the last election and probably all the important ones from now on and they'll still vote for you. That is either incredible stupidity or something akin to political Tourette's Syndrome. Under the circumstances you're probably better off forgetting about the issues and just concentrating on voter suppression, and outright fraud, 'cause you sure ain't gonna win on the merits. However, if it makes you feel better to express your hatred and contempt for the new face of America, by all means...
 
2013-03-14 08:41:27 PM  

impaler: Here's a graph proving Silly Jesus's point

[growlersoftware.com image 579x396]


If you want work, it's there to be found.  The Hispanics down at Home Depot don't seem to be on that chart.
 
2013-03-14 08:42:05 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Silly Jesus: Weaver95: Silly Jesus:

I wasn't aware that I was running for office...or, if I were, that I'd be asking for the vote of the worthless.

make sure that when you mistreat poor people that you do so openly.  because THAT will NEVER come back to haunt you later in life.  I'm also hoping that this imperial attitude of yours is common among senior GOP officials.  hey, it turned out great for the Romney campaign, right?  gotta figure that being insulting dick holes towards most of the voters in the country will work in 2016.

rock on man!  you keep right on being you.  I never want you to change!

I'm conservative now?  You're really smart.  You should be the one running for office.

And yes, I will always think that the worthless are worthless.  I'm glad that you are able to dismiss reality and allow your heart to bleed for them.  The scourge on society that they are.  Imagine the progress that we could make if fewer people were in the cart and more were pulling?  And if people like you didn't hand out step ladders for people to climb into the cart....

You would fit in quite well in Boca Raton.


I hate Florida.
 
2013-03-14 08:43:18 PM  

Silly Jesus: Mrtraveler01: Silly Jesus: Weaver95: Silly Jesus:

I wasn't aware that I was running for office...or, if I were, that I'd be asking for the vote of the worthless.

make sure that when you mistreat poor people that you do so openly.  because THAT will NEVER come back to haunt you later in life.  I'm also hoping that this imperial attitude of yours is common among senior GOP officials.  hey, it turned out great for the Romney campaign, right?  gotta figure that being insulting dick holes towards most of the voters in the country will work in 2016.

rock on man!  you keep right on being you.  I never want you to change!

I'm conservative now?  You're really smart.  You should be the one running for office.

And yes, I will always think that the worthless are worthless.  I'm glad that you are able to dismiss reality and allow your heart to bleed for them.  The scourge on society that they are.  Imagine the progress that we could make if fewer people were in the cart and more were pulling?  And if people like you didn't hand out step ladders for people to climb into the cart....

You would fit in quite well in Boca Raton.

I hate Florida.


So do most Floridians. You'd fit right in!
 
2013-03-14 08:43:47 PM  

clambam: Silly Jesus: clambam: Silly Jesus: clambam: Silly Jesus: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

Wow, really? There's an actual academic study that confirms the welfare state is a slave plantation? I believe you! Shout it from the rooftops!

Essentially, yes.

Finding a job, wedding and stopping having kids are all discouraged.

Citation needed. It's funny how you folks can call a group of voters who essentially control electoral outcomes at this point a bunch of freeloading losers and then act surprised when they fail to vote the way you want them to. Has it occurred to you that, rather than them being parasites you think they are, you people might be just kind of stupid?

Here's the best article I found on it.  A link to the actual study (PDF) is at the bottom.

You folks?  What kinda folk am I?

So they aren't parasites?  How so?

I'm stupid because the study confirms what I've been saying?  Interdasting!

You seem smrt.

No, you're stupid because you think you can insult the people who determined the winner of the last election and probably all the important ones from now on and they'll still vote for you. That is either incredible stupidity or something akin to political Tourette's Syndrome. Under the circumstances you're probably better off forgetting about the issues and just concentrating on voter suppression, and outright fraud, 'cause you sure ain't gonna win on the merits. However, if it makes you feel better to express your hatred and contempt for the new face of America, by all means...


I don't think that the libertarian party has much of a chance of winning whether I am actively sucking up to parasites or not.  I'll let parasite fetishism continue to be the specialty of you and your ilk.
 
2013-03-14 08:43:48 PM  

Silly Jesus: impaler: Here's a graph proving Silly Jesus's point

[growlersoftware.com image 579x396]

If you want work, it's there to be found.  The Hispanics down at Home Depot don't seem to be on that chart.


again - it's this attitude that helped the GOP lose the last election.  But hey, its all good.  you 'aren't a Republican' right?  you're unaffected by the gains of the Democratic party.  a 'fark independent', I believe, yes?  so you've got nothing to worry about.  nothing at all!
 
2013-03-14 08:44:39 PM  
Silly Jesus:
I don't think that the libertarian party has much of a chance of winning whether I am actively sucking up to parasites or not.  I'll let parasite fetishism continue to be the specialty of you and your ilk.

do you consider yourself an ayn rand objectivist?
 
2013-03-14 08:45:38 PM  

Turbo Cojones: Silly Jesus: NotARocketScientist: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

47% of US adults get a government hand out, but the unemployment rate is only 10-20%, so that means 27-37% of the country IS WORKING FULL TIME AND IS STILL BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. Doesn't that bother you at all?

Does it bother me that so many people have no skills?  Yes.  Very much so.  I pay for their laziness.

Here comes the derp...


It's just the natural outcome of capitalism.  Wealth flows into a few hands, leaving the source of wealth in poverty.  The game is in danger.  Government redistributes wealth to keep the game going.
 
2013-03-14 08:46:14 PM  

Weaver95: Silly Jesus: impaler: Here's a graph proving Silly Jesus's point

[growlersoftware.com image 579x396]

If you want work, it's there to be found.  The Hispanics down at Home Depot don't seem to be on that chart.

again - it's this attitude that helped the GOP lose the last election.  But hey, its all good.  you 'aren't a Republican' right?  you're unaffected by the gains of the Democratic party.  a 'fark independent', I believe, yes?  so you've got nothing to worry about.  nothing at all!


What, exactly, do you get out of fellating parasites?  Just their votes?  Or does it make your heart bleed a little whenever you can force society to buy groceries / beer / lottery tickets etc. for the lazy and worthless?  I mean, do you actually feel a sacred connection to these people?  Or is it purely vote farming?

Libertarian, btw.
 
2013-03-14 08:46:52 PM  

Weaver95: Silly Jesus:
I don't think that the libertarian party has much of a chance of winning whether I am actively sucking up to parasites or not.  I'll let parasite fetishism continue to be the specialty of you and your ilk.

do you consider yourself an ayn rand objectivist?


Somewhat.
 
2013-03-14 08:47:30 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Turbo Cojones: Silly Jesus: NotARocketScientist: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

47% of US adults get a government hand out, but the unemployment rate is only 10-20%, so that means 27-37% of the country IS WORKING FULL TIME AND IS STILL BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. Doesn't that bother you at all?

Does it bother me that so many people have no skills?  Yes.  Very much so.  I pay for their laziness.

Here comes the derp...

It's just the natural outcome of capitalism.  Wealth flows into a few hands, leaving the source of wealth in poverty.  The game is in danger.  Government redistributes wealth to keep the game going.


LOL
 
2013-03-14 08:47:44 PM  

Silly Jesus: impaler: Here's a graph proving Silly Jesus's point

[growlersoftware.com image 579x396]

If you want work, it's there to be found.  The Hispanics down at Home Depot don't seem to be on that chart.


But nobody really wants work; not the poor and certainly not Romney.  People want income!
 
2013-03-14 08:47:45 PM  

Silly Jesus: impaler: Here's a graph proving Silly Jesus's point

[growlersoftware.com image 579x396]

If you want work, it's there to be found.  The Hispanics down at Home Depot don't seem to be on that chart.


So 5% of the population just decided to stop working between March '08 and June '09? I'm glad you agree with the graph.

www.joeydevilla.com
 
2013-03-14 08:48:53 PM  

Silly Jesus: The opposition to it was just some libby lib saying "NUH UH!"


Thanks for the link...but, I found the study on my own.  And, reading through it, I have to agree with the people who find the abstract unconvincing.

If there's an important claim in the study, it's this:  In some cases, the cost of earning an additional $100 of income is a loss of benefits double that amount (Figure 3a, section E).

That claim seems undeniably true.  But, it doesn't actually support your argument that people who use government assistance are "worthless" or "parasites."

Instead, the study seems to show that government assistance programs are poorly designed.  And, quite frankly, a lot of that poor design has to do with right wingnut interference.

A person should NEVER be penalized for earning more money.  That is, every extra dollar earned should be worth more than relying on government to provide a service.  But, under systems heavily influenced by Republican thinking, the opposite happens.  In fact, the Republican ransom for keeping people out of poverty seems to be a system in which people are condemned to poverty.

The problem isn't government assistance.  The problem is that government assistance has had to accommodate Republican "thinking."  The disaster has been "conservative" ideology.

Take Medicaid for example.  A poor mother is going to avoid making more money if an increase in income means that her child will lack medical care because her wages are too high to qualify for government assistance and too low to pay for the doctors and medications needed to keep her child alive.  The liberal position is to give the mother support for much longer.  The conservative position is to let the kid die.

That's tragic and stupid.
 
2013-03-14 08:49:20 PM  

emotion_lotion: I was told that you can tell the character of a man by the way he treats animals.


By strapping them to a roof.

growlersoftware.com
 
2013-03-14 08:49:52 PM  
Silly Jesus:
What, exactly, do you get out of fellating parasites?  Just their votes?  Or does it make your heart bleed a little whenever you can force society to buy groceries / beer / lottery tickets etc. for the lazy and worthless?  I mean, do you actually feel a sacred connection to these people?  Or is it purely vote farming?

Oh this isnt' about me.  this is about the GOP.  well, the evangelical Christians too, I suppose.  not that I actually WANT you to have a clear understanding of how/why the Republicans (and by default the rich elite) are going to continue to lose...it would be counter productive.  nope.  shine on you crazy diamond!

Libertarian, btw.

objectivist?
 
2013-03-14 08:49:55 PM  

Silly Jesus: BarkingUnicorn: Turbo Cojones: Silly Jesus: NotARocketScientist: Well, he wasn't wrong.  A large percentage of the population is worthless...and that number is only growing.

A new Georgia State University study just confirmed what liberals love to deny...the welfare state is a democratic slave plantation.  Keep the checks a comin' and the votes a rollin in!

47% of US adults get a government hand out, but the unemployment rate is only 10-20%, so that means 27-37% of the country IS WORKING FULL TIME AND IS STILL BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. Doesn't that bother you at all?

Does it bother me that so many people have no skills?  Yes.  Very much so.  I pay for their laziness.

Here comes the derp...

It's just the natural outcome of capitalism.  Wealth flows into a few hands, leaving the source of wealth in poverty.  The game is in danger.  Government redistributes wealth to keep the game going.

LOL


Capitalism works just like the  water cycle.
 
2013-03-14 08:50:01 PM  
Not his style.
 
2013-03-14 08:50:45 PM  
 You can tell a lot about someone the way they take a drink from you.
 You can tell a lot about someone the way they take a drink from you.
 You can tell a lot about someone the way they take a drink from you.
 
2013-03-14 08:50:52 PM  

impaler: Silly Jesus: impaler: Here's a graph proving Silly Jesus's point

[growlersoftware.com image 579x396]

If you want work, it's there to be found.  The Hispanics down at Home Depot don't seem to be on that chart.

So 5% of the population just decided to stop working between March '08 and June '09? I'm glad you agree with the graph.

[www.joeydevilla.com image 450x711]


The help wanted signs at the local Papa Johns and McDonalds etc. never came down during that time and the Hispanic folks were still in front of Home Depot starting at 5am and routinely jumping into the backs of pick-ups.
 
2013-03-14 08:51:11 PM  

Weaver95: Libertarian, btw.

objectivist?


Weaver! Noo!  Don't throw your evening away like this!

Think about it.  It's a Thursday night.  You have so much else to fark for!
 
2013-03-14 08:51:12 PM  

Silly Jesus: Weaver95: Silly Jesus:
I don't think that the libertarian party has much of a chance of winning whether I am actively sucking up to parasites or not.  I'll let parasite fetishism continue to be the specialty of you and your ilk.

do you consider yourself an ayn rand objectivist?

Somewhat.


kinda figured.  you got that vibe.
 
2013-03-14 08:51:49 PM  

Chariset: Weaver95: Libertarian, btw.

objectivist?

Weaver! Noo!  Don't throw your evening away like this!

Think about it.  It's a Thursday night.  You have so much else to fark for!


I've had a lot of coffee.
 
2013-03-14 08:52:45 PM  

impaler: Silly Jesus: impaler: Here's a graph proving Silly Jesus's point

[growlersoftware.com image 579x396]

If you want work, it's there to be found.  The Hispanics down at Home Depot don't seem to be on that chart.

So 5% of the population just decided to stop working between March '08 and June '09? I'm glad you agree with the graph.

[www.joeydevilla.com image 450x711]


Basically, work got a little bit harder to find, and 5% of folks decided that it wasn't worth the effort.  The harder it gets to find work (having to apply at more than one place / getting creative / moving) then you will find that a percentage of the population gives up and sucks on the government teat.  If it took 50% more effort to find work you'd probably find another X% of lazy people joining the unemployment pool.
 
2013-03-14 08:52:53 PM  

eraser8: A person should NEVER be penalized for earning more money.


There goes the progressive tax system.
 
2013-03-14 08:54:28 PM  

eraser8: The conservative position is to let the kid die.


Now this isn't entirely true. Close, but not entirely. The conservative position is that the mother will work harder to provide for her child and be stronger, wealthier and more free for the effort.
What they don't really specify is where or what she's going to work harder at, and their policies favor outsourcing unskilled labor, repealing the minimum wage, AND defunding education, eliminating all the avenues she would have to work harder, and thus condemning her child to death anyway.
Just saying they want the kid to die doesn't begin to do justice to their hypocrisy and cruelty.
 
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