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(CNN)   Carnival, the Windows ME of the cruising world, has yet another ship stuck in Safe Mode   (cnn.com) divider line 102
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2013-03-14 10:53:15 AM
www.mediabistro.com
 
2013-03-14 10:56:36 AM
I for one, would not mind being left behind in St. Maarten. Much better than being stuck in Newark.
 
2013-03-14 10:57:49 AM

Happy Hours: once is a fluke and wouldn't affect a decision (by me or I think most people) to use Carnival.

Twice in a month? Yeah.....this should hurt them.


Carnival is the ghetto cruise line. I'm a Royal Caribbean guy and the prices aren't that much more. I would prefer to spend 20% more and have an amazing cruise than deal with Carnival's junk.

 

Mugato: WTF is there to do on a cruise anyway? I'm not a big eater and that's all I ever hear from people who go on cruises is the food. Of course these are mostly morbidly obese women I'm talking to so the opinion might be skewed.


Good question that I asked myself before becoming a cruiser. Different reasons for taking a cruise but the all-inclusive aspect can be really fun. For spring break me and my girl + my son are flying down to Puerto Rico for a week. Flights are 1600, Hotel will be 1600, 400 for the rental car. Now I have to also buy my food and tickets to whatever attraction I want to go to. So it's probably going to be a little more than $4000 all in.

We took a new years eve RC cruise which cost $1800 for the room (supreme ocean with a private balcony) and we flew to Tampa for around $600 (Even though it's only a 6 hour drive for me). They had an awesome NY's Eve party. Alcohol plus whatever excursions we took totaled about a $1000. So less than $3000 and everything was built into the ship. If you've never been on a good cruise I highly suggest you give it a try. The staff is amazing, they keep you entertained the entire time, the comedy shows are good, the music is good. There are casinos if you like slots/gambling. There are adult only areas, good pools, massages, etc etc etc.  It's really cool to go to bed and wake up in some place like Cozumel.

Another thing I really enjoy about cruises is that you don't have to move around. You just stay on the ship and go visit islands during the day then party at night and stumble to your room. Hit the pool in the AM, grab lunch, do an excursion, come back and gamble or drink or watch a show. It's awesome.
 
2013-03-14 11:19:44 AM
No mention of the wonderful Vista from the promenade deck?
 
2013-03-14 11:32:02 AM

cleveoh: Mugato: 

The tiger actually is Pi's evil father.


No, the tiger was the name of Pi's beloved childhood sled.  And it killed Dumbledore.


===============================

One more farkup, Carnival, and you're doomed to be a cliche of oceangoing fail.
 
2013-03-14 11:39:52 AM

Mugato: WTF is there to do on a cruise anyway? I'm not a big eater and that's all I ever hear from people who go on cruises is the food. Of course these are mostly morbidly obese women I'm talking to so the opinion might be skewed.


While on the cruise they also all sit around and biatch about STAR TREK: GENERATIONS, so I'm sure you'll be booking immediately.

/trololololooo
 
2013-03-14 11:40:26 AM
cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2013-03-14 12:04:22 PM

xynix: Carnival is the ghetto cruise line.


Truer words were never spoken.  Carnival is a drunken floating white trash trailer part orgy...which when I was in college was a blast (from what I remember), but when I went 10 years later, it was horrible.

For large cruise lines, I recommend Royal Caribbean, Disney (if you have kids under 12) or Celebrity or just take a "regular" vacation.
 
2013-03-14 12:18:39 PM
There is about 1000 people that are farked. No passport? No flying home. The only why they can get home is on that ship to the port they left out of (or maybe another ship). No flying, no driving. It takes about two weeks to get a passport while overseas, and that's if you can put your hands on all the needed documentation which you can't.
 
2013-03-14 12:37:49 PM
One thing I can say about ME was I 'really' learned alot about how a computer works.  The amount of time I spent on computing.nets forums was amazing.
 
2013-03-14 01:10:46 PM
Full again.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-03-14 01:32:31 PM

Mugato: WTF is there to do on a cruise anyway? I'm not a big eater and that's all I ever hear from people who go on cruises is the food. Of course these are mostly morbidly obese women I'm talking to so the opinion might be skewed.


Using the word "do" implies that you're asking the wrong question.  Cruises aren't about "doing" anything.  They're the ultimate getaway for type B personalities.  You can sit on your ass in the sun while reading and napping, and you can waddle over to the the buffet for all the food you want any time you want.

There's nothing wrong with it, per se, as long as it's the kind of vacation you want.  I went on a cruise one time with my familiy---we all hated it.  We're all more active/outdoor-type vacationers, so it wasn't fun being cooped up in a boat with 3000 gross strangers.  That said, I can see the appeal.

But, since you asked what there is to do on a cruise---that alone makes me want to advise you not to go on one.
 
2013-03-14 01:38:35 PM
Time to re-format and go back to Carnival 98?
 
2013-03-14 01:39:14 PM
And of course we know what other Carnival cruise ship had problems.. It's been a rough patch for the carnies.

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2013-03-14 02:04:34 PM

Mugato: WTF is there to do on a cruise anyway? I'm not a big eater and that's all I ever hear from people who go on cruises is the food. Of course these are mostly morbidly obese women I'm talking to so the opinion might be skewed.


My wife got me to do a Disney cruise. If you have young kids or are part of the Disney cult it looked fun. I'm not a Disney person, plus I'm deeply introverted; I found it unfulfilling (ok, painful).
Pluses:
Floor shows each night were pretty good.
Food and dining rooms were very nice - if you're into eating fancy food in fancy restaurants.
Wall to wall DISNEY!!!! Lots of character photo ops.

Negatives:
3000+ people and their children are crammed into the ship with you. About the only place to find peace and quiet is your room.
There really isn't that much to do on board. You can go to the movies (I can do that at home). You can lounge around a pool (I can do that at home. The ocean is very nice, but the screaming children are not).

We met some people who were on their 10th Disney cruise. That would be hell for me.
Disney's island is decent, but again, you're sharing it with several thousand other people. Think of a crowded day at a city beach - it's like that.

For what it was, I think Disney did a very good job. But cruise ships have no appeal for me. Now chartering a sailboat and going "cruising", that sounds like a great vacation.
 
2013-03-14 02:04:54 PM

KWess: If you are docked in port, spewing filth everywhere, and I have a valid passport, isn't preventing me from leaving the ship tantamount to kidnapping? SUICIDE?


Good farking luck keeping me on that boat.
 
2013-03-14 02:06:56 PM

HMS_Blinkin: Mugato: WTF is there to do on a cruise anyway? I'm not a big eater and that's all I ever hear from people who go on cruises is the food. Of course these are mostly morbidly obese women I'm talking to so the opinion might be skewed.

Using the word "do" implies that you're asking the wrong question.  Cruises aren't about "doing" anything.  They're the ultimate getaway for type B personalities.  You can sit on your ass in the sun while reading and napping, and you can waddle over to the the buffet for all the food you want any time you want.

There's nothing wrong with it, per se, as long as it's the kind of vacation you want.  I went on a cruise one time with my familiy---we all hated it.  We're all more active/outdoor-type vacationers, so it wasn't fun being cooped up in a boat with 3000 gross strangers.  That said, I can see the appeal.

But, since you asked what there is to do on a cruise---that alone makes me want to advise you not to go on one.


I can do everything I can do on a cruise within walking distance of my house, basically. Hell, I could just go spend a week in the Keys.
 
2013-03-14 02:07:12 PM
The related quotes interjected in the middle of the article usually stand out. This one looks like it's part of the article, which is hilarious.

"His comments, posted on Carnival's website, were made at an annual cruise industry conference in Miami.  'Human waste all over the floor'"

Excellent comment.
 
2013-03-14 02:12:40 PM
HMS_Blinkin:But, since you asked what there is to do on a cruise---that alone makes me want to advise you not to go on one.

Agreed. IMHO, you go on a cruise to NOT do anything - to be served by people from second-world countries with exotic accents in uniforms.

My wife enjoyed the cruise because she liked someone else taking care of her and doing everything for her. I was bored silly and wished the cloying servants would go away.
 
2013-03-14 02:13:20 PM
"the ship is so big, you don't know its moving"
now when people tell me this, i can show them this
 
2013-03-14 02:17:58 PM

jasenj1: My wife enjoyed the cruise because she liked someone else taking care of her and doing everything for her. I was bored silly and wished the cloying servants would go away.


I had the same experience. I was bored out of my mind after the first day. Drinks were expensive and there wasn't much to do on the boat but drink and wait until the next stop.
 
2013-03-14 02:25:39 PM
Guests on the current voyage will receive a refund equivalent to three days of the voyage and 50 percent off a future cruise.

How about a full refund and you can keep your coupon?

Kris Anderson, a passenger on the ship and reporter for CNN affiliate WREG, said Thursday passengers have been told they will be allowed off the ship to enjoy the island while flight arrangements are made.

Something tells me that neither the passengers nor the islanders are going to find that arrangement too charming. These cruise ship ports of call are carefully set up to have exactly X hours' worth of stuff for easily bored tourists to do, and the friendly waitstaff and bartenders and tchotchke-sellers are all busy doing other things when the ship is supposed to be gone. I'm not saying they're third-world hellholes; I'm just saying that once you've walked up and down the main tourist drag and you've still got a few days to kill, you'll wish you were in some more exciting place, like Pierre, SD.
 
2013-03-14 02:48:15 PM

semiotix: I'm just saying that once you've walked up and down the main tourist drag and you've still got a few days to kill, you'll wish you were in some more exciting place, like Pierre, SD.


You know how I know you've never been to St. Martin?

/Orient Beach
 
2013-03-14 02:54:14 PM

jasenj1: You know how I know you've never been to St. Martin?

/Orient Beach


Ha, yes, I didn't account for the "nude beach" factor. I guess if your cruise ship has to break down somewhere, it might as well be in a place with boobies.

(Although in that case, my point about this sucking for the locals is even more relevant.)
 
2013-03-14 02:58:23 PM

xxmedium: //when life gives you lemons,


I DON'T WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS!
 
2013-03-14 03:27:17 PM

semiotix: I'm just saying that once you've walked up and down the main tourist drag and you've still got a few days to kill, you'll wish you were in some more exciting place, like Pierre, SD.


Oh no, oh no! PIERREE! WEEE FOORGOOOT PIEEEEERREEEEE! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

/Probably obscure.
/Cap-it-ol!
 
2013-03-14 03:31:46 PM
Granted, I'm another satisfied Royal Caribbean loyalist, but for those asking what to do on a cruise, this is what we did on a recent 7-day tour:

There's an on board gym and even some classes available. I didn't do the classes, but I did hit the gym every other morning and walked the track on the days I didn't.

During the days "at sea" we would hit one of the several on board clubs for dancing or drinks. There were a few poolside parties and shows, as well. We did rock climbing on board one day, and I hit up the spa. There's an ice rink, too, but we never went skating.

During ports of call, we'd wake up a bit early. I'd head to the gym or walk on the track and then go eat breakfast before we headed out. Typically we'd head to the beach or shop for some amount of time. We also swam with sting rays, horseback riding in Jamaica (which I LOVED), and did a few tours of the ruins. There are of course other options available. Here are just a few examples from Cozumel:  http://www.royalcaribbean.com/findacruise/ports/group/home.do?portCod e =CZM
 
2013-03-14 03:48:16 PM

Mugato: Happy Hours: once is a fluke and wouldn't affect a decision (by me or I think most people) to use Carnival.

Twice in a month? Yeah.....this should hurt them.

No shiat, I laughed at my dad who canceled his plans to take his new wife on one because it's not like it could happen again. If anything it would be even more safe because they'd be more careful. I guess I'll be eating those words now. Dumbasses.


Carnival's already had to slash prices anyway after three major accidents in three years; Carnival Splendor two years ago, Costa Concordia last year, Carnival Triumph last month. CNN's ruthless coverage of the last accident didn't help at all. Today's minor accident is just more bad press that'll drive them towards bankruptcy, so expect service and maintenance to get even worse first. I'm betting on a stock plunge when financials come out next week.

It turns out that firing highly paid competent people that keep your shiat running is not a particularly good long-term business strategy!
 
2013-03-14 04:07:24 PM
I did live this in a prophetic epiphany this very day. I awoke this morning with SAVAGE diarrhea. I came in to work and had "minor leakage", then, my Dreamweaver CS6 busted so I re-installed it. My guts were in an uproar, so I went to the nearest CVS drugstore for some Imodium and I walked through the US Navy Memorial to get there. I even paused to notice the lyric on the step,

Eternal Father, strong to save,
Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
Who bidd'st the mighty ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep;
Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the sea!


It had all the elements: Technical difficulties, barely contained feces, and people in peril on the sea. My mind, it is blown.
 
2013-03-14 04:09:02 PM
No love for Norwegian? Then again, they have a sake bar, so that's a major plus for me.
 
2013-03-14 04:12:01 PM

Rincewind53: *golf clap for headline*


Agreed. Nice one, although given it's about a defective ship, you might have used Microsoft BOB (in the water).
 
2013-03-14 05:11:43 PM
next time you want to get  a free flight to Europe, go on a Carnival cruise!
 
2013-03-14 05:35:58 PM
RC is crap. Carnival is crappier, but at least there's no pretension that it is NOT crap.

I used to work for a super high end cruise line and would travel for free with them. When I left the job, hubby and I decided to take RC knowing it wouldn't be upscale, but we were okay with that. What a farking waste of money and what a joke. They nickel and dime you for everything, the service is awful, the food is awful, and whoever is in charge of their wine list needs to be fired.  When I mentioned my old line to a bartender on the RC ship, he literally asked me what the fark was I doing on RC, lol.

I've been on Carnival too and I prefer them. Everyone on Carnival knows the ship's a joke, so there's no pretension.

The tourists on RC think they are "above" the Carnival people. But the fact is I met more uneducated, uncultured, and clueless people on RC by a mile. Carnival people just tend to be a bit poorer.

Mugato: WTF is there to do on a cruise anyway? I'm not a big eater and that's all I ever hear from people who go on cruises is the food. Of course these are mostly morbidly obese women I'm talking to so the opinion might be skewed.


Depends on your ports of call. Which depends on your cruise line. My old cruise line was amazing; the ships were just small enough to make it to the more unique ports. Some places are worth cruising to (like Bermuda and St. Maarten) and some aren't (like Jamaica and Barbados). The ports don't reflect the actual country well. I love the open sea so I enjoy cruising, but I wouldn't bother unless the ports were decent.

/never, never, never again will I travel on RC. Not even if I had a free cruise.
/Celebrity and Norwegian are 100% better in that price catagory
 
2013-03-14 06:07:45 PM
They should just change their ads a little. "Want to get stranded? Like wading through human feces? I don't know, maybe pirates will attack! Carnival Cruises are the adventure of a lifetime!"
 
2013-03-14 07:14:53 PM

JackieRabbit: KWess: If you are docked in port, spewing filth everywhere, and I have a valid passport, isn't preventing me from leaving the ship tantamount to kidnapping?

Just because you have a valid passport doesn't mean you have some sort of right to go ashore. You must first be granted a visa by the immigration service. But in this case, it was the US Coast Guard that ordered the captain to keep the passengers on board, so that they could be accounted for and so that no one would be left behind.

Well, the Kingdom of the Netherlands doesn't require visas for Americans or Canadians, and I'm a Dutch dual citizen, so I think I'm OK, but in any case, what right is it of Isaac and Gopher to stop me from getting off a boat and letting me take my chances with the locals. And not for nothing, but if my cruise ship was docking in that port anyway, wouldn't I be cleared to go ashore in any case?

I don't want to unduly shock you, but you may be surprised to find out the US Coast Guard can suck eggs, the boat isn't in US waters...you're presumably aware that US authorities are actually limited to the US, right? The CG was using 'we' in the proverbial sense.

BTW, it looks like the article has been updated, "The captain said passengers could 'enjoy another day in beautiful St. Maarten' or stay onboard for a 'full schedule" of activities.' - your argument is invalid.

 
2013-03-14 07:23:46 PM

semiotix: jasenj1: You know how I know you've never been to St. Martin?

/Orient Beach

Ha, yes, I didn't account for the "nude beach" factor. I guess if your cruise ship has to break down somewhere, it might as well be in a place with boobies.

(Although in that case, my point about this sucking for the locals is even more relevant.)


Try the rest of the island next time...
 
2013-03-14 07:37:20 PM
I've done Carnival in the Caribbean and Royal Caribbean in Alaska.

RC was definitely a nicer cruise overall, though it was less of what I would call a "party cruise". the destination difference might have something to do with that. Carnival was fun at the time but after all this I really don't think i'll ever book one with them again unless they do a 120% over haul.

what makes other cruise lines like Celebrity and Norwegian different? I mean, other than the price?

I would love to do a cruise again but it would have to be pretty damn different compared to what Ive already done for me to care.

/never understood people that take cruises for every vacation and go to the same destinations over and over and over.
//last vacation was a week long beach house rental where we literally didn't do shiat - now that was a vacation.
 
2013-03-14 09:40:15 PM
carnival owned the costa concordia, too.
 
2013-03-14 09:49:46 PM
Windows ME thread without this?
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-03-14 10:17:21 PM
Looooooove! Exiting and new. Come aboard, we're expecting you.
Love, life's sweetest reward. Let it flow, it floats back to you.
The Love Boat soon will be making another run The Love Boat promises something for everyone
Set a course for adventure, Your mind on a new romance...
 
2013-03-14 10:37:11 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: KWess: If you are docked in port, spewing filth everywhere, and I have a valid passport, isn't preventing me from leaving the ship tantamount to kidnapping? SUICIDE?

Good farking luck keeping me on that boat.


I think it might be a bit of immigration not letting you into their country too.
 
2013-03-14 10:55:25 PM
My nephew is on that ship. He says everything's fine except they can't leave port. Carnival is giving them money to play on St. Maarten and he's dragging his feet taking the ship's offer to fly him home.
 
2013-03-15 12:56:55 AM
Ya'll sound like a bunch of broke mother farkers who've never been able to afford a good cruise.
 
2013-03-15 02:22:52 AM
Just got back from spending the day in Cocoa Beach and hangin out some friends working on Disney's Dream so I'm getting a kick out of the headlines about the Dream being stranded and without power =D

//dunno which Carnival ship I saw docked today, obviously not the one stuck in the Caribbean, but if I was getting on it I might be hesitant =P
 
2013-03-15 03:12:04 AM
Gee, I wonder how many paragraphs before the article mentions toilets?

*CLICKS LINK*

 
http://www.fark.com/comments/7643380/83031102#c83031102" target=_blank>KWess: What I cannot fathom (no pun intended), is why anyone would design a system whereby even the briefest power outage (a few hours), would result in the toilets becoming fountains of human waste.

Maybe they don't? Maybe it's Chinese whispers? A passenger tweeting that their toilet won't flush becomes


shiat SMEARED CRUISE HORROR !!


in tomorrow's headlines.
 
2013-03-15 03:49:35 AM
The Legend is also having propulsion issues, too.  Seems to be a bad month for Carnival ships.  Though if prices go any lower and I can get a summer cruise for winter prices, I'm so jumping on that.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/14/travel/carnival-problems/
 
2013-03-15 04:54:11 AM
Carnival Cruise Lines, almost singlehandedly responsible for the worldwide destruction of marine habitats, the spread of Hard Rock Cafe and the complete dumbing down of the idea of travel.
 
2013-03-15 10:45:22 AM
i'm not saying it's aliens,

oddx.com

but ...
 
2013-03-16 12:08:43 AM

Mugato: WTF is there to do on a cruise anyway? I'm not a big eater and that's all I ever hear from people who go on cruises is the food. Of course these are mostly morbidly obese women I'm talking to so the opinion might be skewed.


Let's see . . . swimming, sunning, drinking, running, hitting the gym, reading a good book on deck with incredible views, dancing, dining, shopping, catching a movie (sometime under the stars), watching a live show, a comedy club, people watching, karaoke, basketball, dodgeball, zip lining, surfing, rock wall climbing, putt putt golf, bikini contests (not everyone is fat), clubbing, etc. etc. etc. And then of course if you choose interesting ports of call, there's more to do there.

Yeah, cruises are sooo boring. If none of the above appeals to you, you're in luck, cruise ships have plenty of couches you can park yourself so you don't stray from your comfort zone.

Cheap cruises with boring ports of call, suck. Being poor, sucks. People that complain about cruises, usually went on cheap cruises.
 
2013-03-16 03:36:52 PM

almandot: Just got back from spending the day in Cocoa Beach and hangin out some friends working on Disney's Dream so I'm getting a kick out of the headlines about the Dream being stranded and without power =D

//dunno which Carnival ship I saw docked today, obviously not the one stuck in the Caribbean, but if I was getting on it I might be hesitant =P


If the Dream was in port, then you were looking at the Carnival Sensation. One of their older ships. Fantasy class I think it is. Now Disney Dream, there's a beautiful ship. Did 4n on her back in December. Deck 10 balcony.
Nice thing about Disney cruises... You can bring your own booze on board.
 
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