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(Mother Jones)   Fox News: Obama quashed investigation of voter intimidation by New Black Panthers. Reality: the exact opposite   (motherjones.com) divider line 207
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2013-03-14 08:32:15 AM  
It was the New White Panthers?
 
2013-03-14 09:14:07 AM  
Forget it, they're rolling.
 
2013-03-14 09:17:55 AM  
I'm counting the days til Fox news' audience dies.
 
2013-03-14 09:23:27 AM  

Generation_D: I'm counting the days til Fox news' audience dies.


You're going to wait a long time. They will get smaller though.
 
2013-03-14 09:27:11 AM  
They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys.
 
2013-03-14 09:29:03 AM  
Obama is so black he outblacked the Black Panthers at the black contest.

/black
 
2013-03-14 09:31:45 AM  
Still waiting for a single actual person come forward saying they were 'intimidated' by those scary black people.
 
2013-03-14 09:32:50 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.


Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.
 
2013-03-14 09:33:53 AM  
What about Benghazi?
 
2013-03-14 09:34:57 AM  

markfara: What about Benghazi?


I HERD ITS SCANDAL NOW!
 
2013-03-14 09:35:20 AM  

mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.


Why do you hate the right to bear arms?

static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-03-14 09:35:35 AM  

mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.


Ahahahahaha

Wait wait wait - teabaggers are against people openly displaying weapons?

Would you also like to address that nobody actually made a complaint about feeling intimidated?
 
2013-03-14 09:35:45 AM  

mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.


Conservatives love that, don't they?

/who was intimidated again?
 
2013-03-14 09:36:18 AM  

mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.


I thought open-carry was a good thing?
 
2013-03-14 09:37:01 AM  
Whoa, the Black Panthers quashed an investigation of voter intimidation by Obama?

/didn't RTFA
 
2013-03-14 09:38:09 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

Why do you hate the right to bear arms?

[static.guim.co.uk image 220x333]



Are you kidding? Keeping scary black people from openly carrying guns is one of the few gun control bills the NRA fully endorsed.

St. Ronnie himself signed it when he was governor of California.
 
2013-03-14 09:38:32 AM  

Hilarity_N_Sues: Whoa, the Black Panthers quashed an investigation of voter intimidation by Obama?

No, the black investigators quashed Obama intimidation by panther's voters.

 
2013-03-14 09:41:18 AM  

theknuckler_33: Hilarity_N_Sues: Whoa, the Black Panthers quashed an investigation of voter intimidation by Obama?

No, the black investigators quashed Obama intimidation by panther's voters.


This is a really dark story for dark times.
 
2013-03-14 09:42:21 AM  
"Let's see... Benghazi didn't pan out. What else we got in the playbook, boys? Scary black people? That's always a winner..."
 
2013-03-14 09:44:08 AM  
Subby defines REALITY as:  0bama investigating and clearing 0bama as reported by Mother Jones.

Seems legit.
 
2013-03-14 09:44:33 AM  

mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.


In your mind, it's about skin color. But, in the real world, ever since Gingrich's list of ":words" Liberal has become the new code word for NI-Clang!
 
2013-03-14 09:45:07 AM  

mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.


What was the weapon?
 
2013-03-14 09:46:09 AM  

mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.


Still trying to figure out what's intimidating about two black guys standing outside a precinct in a majority-black district?
 
2013-03-14 09:46:57 AM  
Romney spearheaded a coverup of voter registration drives by the KKK?
 
2013-03-14 09:49:26 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

Still trying to figure out what's intimidating about two black guys standing outside a precinct in a majority-black district?


It's pretty sad that in 2013 you had to tack on the fact that they were in a majority black district to make the point.

/thats not a knock against you
 
2013-03-14 09:53:34 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: cameroncrazy1984: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

Still trying to figure out what's intimidating about two black guys standing outside a precinct in a majority-black district?

It's pretty sad that in 2013 you had to tack on the fact that they were in a majority black district to make the point.

/thats not a knock against you


The saddest aspect of the conservative disconnect in this whole case is that ...the dude was a registered poll watcher, a volunteer, investing in his community. He had a RIGHT and a REASON.to be there.
 
2013-03-14 09:56:07 AM  

X-boxershorts: DROxINxTHExWIND: cameroncrazy1984: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

Still trying to figure out what's intimidating about two black guys standing outside a precinct in a majority-black district?

It's pretty sad that in 2013 you had to tack on the fact that they were in a majority black district to make the point.

/thats not a knock against you

The saddest aspect of the conservative disconnect in this whole case is that ...the dude was a registered poll watcher, a volunteer, investing in his community. He had a RIGHT and a REASON.to be there.


But he was SCARY looking!

Here he is intimidating a retired couple:
a57.foxnews.com
 
2013-03-14 10:01:51 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

Still trying to figure out what's intimidating about two black guys standing outside a precinct in a majority-black district?


Normal, rational people see this:

ramparts360.com


Republicans, teabaggers and assorted racists see this:

news.bbcimg.co.uk
 
2013-03-14 10:09:47 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Subby defines REALITY as:  0bama investigating and clearing 0bama as reported by Mother Jones.

Seems legit.


Clearing Obama?

Read the damned report yourself.
 
2013-03-14 10:12:09 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: cameroncrazy1984: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

Still trying to figure out what's intimidating about two black guys standing outside a precinct in a majority-black district?

It's pretty sad that in 2013 you had to tack on the fact that they were in a majority black district to make the point.

/thats not a knock against you


Got it.  So you are cool with KKK standing in front of majority white polling places with a baton.
 
2013-03-14 10:12:41 AM  

AirForceVet: Generation_D: I'm counting the days til Fox news' audience dies.

You're going to wait a long time. They will get smaller though.


I am pretty sure their audience is going to continue getting larger.

/there might be fewer of them though
 
2013-03-14 10:14:43 AM  

X-boxershorts: DROxINxTHExWIND: cameroncrazy1984: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

Still trying to figure out what's intimidating about two black guys standing outside a precinct in a majority-black district?

It's pretty sad that in 2013 you had to tack on the fact that they were in a majority black district to make the point.

/thats not a knock against you

The saddest aspect of the conservative disconnect in this whole case is that ...the dude was a registered poll watcher, a volunteer, investing in his community. He had a RIGHT and a REASON.to be there.


For accuracy, the big dude was a registered poll watcher. The other guy with the night stick wasn't. The latter was later told to leave by the police. No one was ever intimidated except, apparently, the college young republicans there to take the cell phone video.
 
2013-03-14 10:14:48 AM  
Politicizing bi-partisan government offices is only okay when Republicans do it. Trying to un-politicize it is socialism.
 
2013-03-14 10:15:58 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys.


You must have missed the outrage in 2012 when they showed video that one of them was out there AGAIN! You know, the one that wasn't armed and in fact was a registered poll-watcher who was supposed to be there, and did not behave untoward towards anyone... But that probably intimidated people! Because he was standing next to someone carrying a weapon 4 years ago, he shouldn't be allowed within 100 feet of a polling place!
 
2013-03-14 10:19:04 AM  

liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: cameroncrazy1984: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

Still trying to figure out what's intimidating about two black guys standing outside a precinct in a majority-black district?

It's pretty sad that in 2013 you had to tack on the fact that they were in a majority black district to make the point.

/thats not a knock against you

Got it.  So you are cool with KKK standing in front of majority white polling places with a baton.



They already do. In the south, we call them police officers.
 
2013-03-14 10:20:44 AM  

mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.


So tell us. On a scale of zero to ten, how many Benghazis is this scandal?
 
2013-03-14 10:21:27 AM  

liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: cameroncrazy1984: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

Still trying to figure out what's intimidating about two black guys standing outside a precinct in a majority-black district?

It's pretty sad that in 2013 you had to tack on the fact that they were in a majority black district to make the point.

/thats not a knock against you

Got it.  So you are cool with KKK standing in front of majority white polling places with a baton.


Do you have a list of groups who's members should be banned from being near polling places?
 
2013-03-14 10:23:54 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: cameroncrazy1984: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

Still trying to figure out what's intimidating about two black guys standing outside a precinct in a majority-black district?

It's pretty sad that in 2013 you had to tack on the fact that they were in a majority black district to make the point.

/thats not a knock against you

Got it.  So you are cool with KKK standing in front of majority white polling places with a baton.

Do you have a list of groups who's members should be banned from being near polling places?


I would say any hate group member in uniform should be barred from hanging out.

I also think when people are found to violate rules invovling weapons they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
 
2013-03-14 10:24:14 AM  

liam76: So you are cool with KKK standing in front of majority white polling places with a baton.


If they're not intimidating people? Go on with your bad selves.

// however, one might presume that wearing the well-known uniform of the KKK is itself a form of intimidation (not entirely unlike hanging a noose on a professor's doorknob)
// I'll say: if he's hooded, that's likely intimidation. If not, don't forget that everyone's allowed to use the same doors, water fountains and restrooms
 
2013-03-14 10:26:00 AM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

So tell us. On a scale of zero to ten, how many Benghazis is this scandal?


All of them.
 
2013-03-14 10:26:49 AM  

liam76: Got it. So you are cool with KKK standing in front of majority white polling places with a baton.


I hear they're also allowed to march in parades now.
 
2013-03-14 10:27:57 AM  

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: cameroncrazy1984: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

Still trying to figure out what's intimidating about two black guys standing outside a precinct in a majority-black district?

It's pretty sad that in 2013 you had to tack on the fact that they were in a majority black district to make the point.

/thats not a knock against you

Got it.  So you are cool with KKK standing in front of majority white polling places with a baton.

Do you have a list of groups who's members should be banned from being near polling places?

I would say any hate group member in uniform should be barred from hanging out.

I also think when people are found to violate rules invovling weapons they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.


So in your opinion, the Government should be legally designating "hate groups" and passing laws barring them from certain political activities and the right to express themselves?
 
2013-03-14 10:28:04 AM  

Dr Dreidel: liam76: So you are cool with KKK standing in front of majority white polling places with a baton.

If they're not intimidating people? Go on with your bad selves.


The weapon itself is illegal.

If you are wearing the outfit of a hate group, while breaking the law and carrying a weapon it makes it pretty clear you are there to intimidiate.


Dr Dreidel: (not entirely unlike hanging a noose on a professor's doorknob)


Funny you shoul bring that up.

Is it still "intimidation" if you hang it up yourself?
 
2013-03-14 10:28:09 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Why do you hate the right to bear arms?


i55.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-14 10:31:31 AM  

theknuckler_33: Zeb Hesselgresser: Subby defines REALITY as:  0bama investigating and clearing 0bama as reported by Mother Jones.

Seems legit.

Clearing Obama?

Read the damned report yourself.


Ok.  And I remain skeptical of an Administration investigating itself for wrong doing.

Love this tidbit though:

Moreover, we found it significant that following the change in administrations in 2009, there was no surge in new Section 2 cases as might be expected if valid cases had been suppressed or discouraged in the prior administration. Indeed, the number of Section 2 enforcement actions dwindled to just four matters from 2009 through 2012. . . only one new Section 2 enforcement action was brought by the Voting Section in 2010 and 2011, and we noted that, through the end of 2012, the Section had not filed any new Section 2 actions.

So Scalia was mostly correct.
 
2013-03-14 10:39:36 AM  

kronicfeld: liam76: Got it. So you are cool with KKK standing in front of majority white polling places with a baton.

I hear they're also allowed to march in parades now.


You are missingt he key difference.  Maybe this will help.


Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: DROxINxTHExWIND: cameroncrazy1984: mister aj: HotWingConspiracy: They're still crying about that? They're having a hard time understanding that most people aren't afraid of black guys openly carrying weapons.

Keep trying ot make it about racism, libtards.

Still trying to figure out what's intimidating about two black guys standing outside a precinct in a majority-black district?

It's pretty sad that in 2013 you had to tack on the fact that they were in a majority black district to make the point.

/thats not a knock against you

Got it.  So you are cool with KKK standing in front of majority white polling places with a baton.

Do you have a list of groups who's members should be banned from being near polling places?

I would say any hate group member in uniform should be barred from hanging out.

I also think when people are found to violate rules invovling weapons they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

So in your opinion, the Government should be legally designating "hate groups" and passing laws barring them from certain political activities and the right to express themselves?



The fact is we already regulate expression around polling places.  there are things you aren't allowed to do, among them is carry weapons.  If you are dressed as a member of a hate group that is an attempt at discrimination.  Yet for some reason you want to give this guy a pass.
 
2013-03-14 10:40:02 AM  
I don't know.  If I saw these people (I know "you people") at my polling place I'd sort of want to shake their hand.  Nothing makes me happier than oppressing the oppressors with the threat of violence from those that they oppress.
 
2013-03-14 10:40:03 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: theknuckler_33: Zeb Hesselgresser: Subby defines REALITY as:  0bama investigating and clearing 0bama as reported by Mother Jones.

Seems legit.

Clearing Obama?

Read the damned report yourself.

Ok.  And I remain skeptical of an Administration investigating itself for wrong doing.

Love this tidbit though:

Moreover, we found it significant that following the change in administrations in 2009, there was no surge in new Section 2 cases as might be expected if valid cases had been suppressed or discouraged in the prior administration. Indeed, the number of Section 2 enforcement actions dwindled to just four matters from 2009 through 2012. . . only one new Section 2 enforcement action was brought by the Voting Section in 2010 and 2011, and we noted that, through the end of 2012, the Section had not filed any new Section 2 actions.

So Scalia was mostly correct.


If the investigators were biased, you'd think they would have reported more... irregularities... during the Bush admin, wouldn't you?
 
2013-03-14 10:40:14 AM  

liam76: The weapon itself is illegal.

If you are wearing the outfit of a hate group, while breaking the law and carrying a weapon it makes it pretty clear you are there to intimidiate.


So if I wear a black T-shirt and black jeans to go with my black boots and black beret to a polling place, I'm "wearing the outfit of a hate group"?

The KKK robes have the seal on them, and the hood with eyeholes - two things you don't find on everyday clothing.

// and correct me if I'm wrong, but the dude with the baton was asked to leave by cops
// the other guy was supposed to be there (was helping people, too) and was not carrying an assault stick

Dr Dreidel: (not entirely unlike hanging a noose on a professor's doorknob)

Funny you shoul bring that up.

Is it still "intimidation" if you hang it up yourself?


Is it still murder if you kill yourself?

// what's your point - that a professor once hung a noose on his own doorknob, therefore all black people are Black Panthers who shouldn't be allowed to poll-watch?
 
2013-03-14 10:45:35 AM  

liam76: So in your opinion, the Government should be legally designating "hate groups" and passing laws barring them from certain political activities and the right to express themselves?


The fact is we already regulate expression around polling places. there are things you aren't allowed to do, among them is carry weapons. If you are dressed as a member of a hate group that is an attempt at discrimination. Yet for some reason you want to give this guy a pass.


So, the answer is "Yes, I liam76, want the government to legally designate hate groups and pass laws banning them from certain political activities and the right to express themselves".

What then should the criteria be for hate group designation by the United States Government?

As an aside, do we even know that this guy's clothing is really a uniform that has anything to do with the NBP? The picture is so fuzzy that I can't make out anything identifiable. For all I know, this scary, terrifying figure who should be jailed is wearing a coat for the local high school football team.
 
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