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(BBC)   For the first time in 17 years, there will be no English clubs in the quarterfinals of the Champions League. But it's OK, because finishing in 4th place in this year's English Premier League is a bigger deal anyway   (bbc.co.uk ) divider line 118
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2013-03-14 09:16:59 AM  
Its like a trophy!
 
2013-03-14 10:03:02 AM  
Yet again Wenger is trying to deflect attention from the fact that his team just wasn't good enough. You were beaten by a much better team without even a slightly dodgy red card to blame. You suck and you are holding back Arsenal.

One season without a team in the quaters is just a statistical blip. If the same thing happens next year then yes the EPL has a problem but not until then.
 
2013-03-14 10:26:49 AM  

Generation_D: Its like a trophy!


I suppose you could use the millions of Euros it comes with to buy a trophy
 
2013-03-14 10:27:41 AM  

Norfolking Chance: Yet again Wenger is trying to deflect attention from the fact that his team just wasn't good enough. You were beaten by a much better team without even a slightly dodgy red card to blame. You suck and you are holding back Arsenal.

One season without a team in the quaters is just a statistical blip. If the same thing happens next year then yes the EPL has a problem but not until then.


Pretty much this. Spurs were ousted because Chelsea WON IT last year. United were out after a dodgy red card and a phenominal goal. Also, Spurs, Newcastle and Chelsea all have a chance to progress in the Europa league today so I think that merits some discussion. Wenger proves once again he is full of malarkey and unable to say something negative about his own team.
 
2013-03-14 10:28:41 AM  
You suck and you are holding back Arsenal.

If you believe this you're an idiot. Arsenal is practically a model for how a team should be run and maybe excepting Barca they are the best run club outside of Germany (which due to their rules is far,far and away the best run league in the world).
 
2013-03-14 10:44:14 AM  

drewogatory: You suck and you are holding back Arsenal.

If you believe this you're an idiot. Arsenal is practically a model for how a team should be run and maybe excepting Barca they are the best run club outside of Germany (which due to their rules is far,far and away the best run league in the world).


If by "best run" you mean hasn't won anything in a decade, yes, they are.
 
2013-03-14 11:00:33 AM  
Its not about winning its about playing fair and having fun
 
2013-03-14 11:02:20 AM  

mikaloyd: Its not about winning its about playing fair and having fun


And orange slices at half time!
 
2013-03-14 11:09:17 AM  

mikaloyd: Its not about winning its about playing fair and having fun making money.

 
2013-03-14 11:15:30 AM  

Stimied in a Rut: Spurs were ousted because Chelsea WON IT last year.


That alone is a pretty good argument that the EPL is doing OK. It's hard to say that a particular league can't compete on a high level when they have the defending champions.
 
2013-03-14 11:22:50 AM  

The Muthaship: mikaloyd: Its not about winning its about playing fair and having fun

And orange slices at half time!


And maybe mom will take us out for pizza after the game if we tried really hard!
 
2013-03-14 11:29:52 AM  

FourDirections: The Muthaship: mikaloyd: Its not about winning its about playing fair and having fun

And orange slices at half time!

And maybe mom will take us out for pizza after the game if we tried really hard!


Remember that one kid that always showed up dirty, and his mom always "forgot" when it was their turn to bring the juice boxes for after the game?

I hate that kid.
 
2013-03-14 11:34:05 AM  
 
2013-03-14 11:42:34 AM  
Two English teams performed as well as any Scottish team in the Champions League this year. So they do have that going for them. Well done.
 
2013-03-14 11:58:23 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Two English teams performed as well as any Scottish team in the Champions League this year. So they do have that going for them.


Rory McIlroy and Bubba Watson missed the cut for last year's US Open. Those two obviously had a terrible year on the golf course.

Small sample sizes are fun!
 
2013-03-14 11:58:49 AM  

The Muthaship: Remember that one kid that always showed up dirty, and his mom always "forgot" when it was their turn to bring the juice boxes for after the game?

I hate that kid.


The kid was fine, but his parents sucked.
 
2013-03-14 12:24:37 PM  

drewogatory: You suck and you are holding back Arsenal.

If you believe this you're an idiot. Arsenal is practically a model for how a team should be run and maybe excepting Barca they are the best run club outside of Germany (which due to their rules is far,far and away the best run league in the world).



Off the pitch Arsenal is one of the most stable clubs financially in Europe yes but on the pitch Wenger has had the money to spend to bring in players to keep them fighting for the top but he hasn't spent it. It's sad to see a manager grow stale but still insists on following the same dogmatic formula that brought him success a decade ago but that has happened at Arsenal. The longer Wenger stays at Arsenal the longer they will struggle to get into the CL and without silverware filling the Emirates will become more and more difficult. Another CL season like this one and England will only get three CL places and do you see the current Arsenal being ahead of Chelsea or Man City? Plus Spurs and Liverpool are now starting to fire and are looking like overtaking Arsenal as well.

SAF had lost the best player in the PL two years ago and what happened? Lost the league on goal difference last season and is now clear and now looking like they will win it this year. Just by spending money smartly on RvP, Kagawa and others to strengthen his squad. Who has Wenger brought in to replace Nasri (IAC) and RvP? No one close to their ability. At one time you could mention Wenger and Ferguson in the same breath but now people will look at you funny if you said both managers were equal.
 
2013-03-14 12:52:25 PM  

Norfolking Chance: Plus Spurs and Liverpool are now starting to fire and are looking like overtaking Arsenal as well.


I'd be surprised if Liverpool can overtake them. Pleasantly surprised, but surprised nonetheless. Between Arsenal having a game in hand, and I'm sure getting a bit of a confidence boost playing pretty damn well yesterday, I can see them getting on a bit of a run.
 
2013-03-14 12:53:36 PM  
but on the pitch Wenger has had the money to spend

Ah, but does he really? Or is he just a company man when it comes to taking the heat? I'd posit he, in fact, doesn't have any money to spend for whatever reason. That makes a hell of alot more sense then just sitting on a fortune like Scrooge McDuck, because ownership could insist on him buying if that was the case.
 
2013-03-14 12:53:54 PM  
And after rereading what you originally said, I'm guessing you weren't just speaking about "finishing 4th" this year.

I'll just stop talking now and I'll be over here if you need me...
 
2013-03-14 12:57:23 PM  

Killer Cars: Norfolking Chance: Plus Spurs and Liverpool are now starting to fire and are looking like overtaking Arsenal as well.

I'd be surprised if Liverpool can overtake them. Pleasantly surprised, but surprised nonetheless. Between Arsenal having a game in hand, and I'm sure getting a bit of a confidence boost playing pretty damn well yesterday, I can see them getting on a bit of a run.


Arsenal and Liverpool have similar schedules as far as strength of the remaining opposition goes. While I too would love Liverpool to pip into a CL or EL place, it's probably not going to happen. Unless, of course, Tottenham pull a Tottenham and Chelsea falls off.
 
2013-03-14 01:01:50 PM  

ADubs86: Arsenal and Liverpool have similar schedules as far as strength of the remaining opposition goes. While I too would love Liverpool to pip into a CL or EL place, it's probably not going to happen. Unless, of course, Tottenham pull a Tottenham and Chelsea falls off.


Either way, this looks to be a hilariously clusterfarky end to the season in regards to CL & EL placing given how everything is turning out.
 
2013-03-14 01:09:55 PM  
The problem with arsenal is they alway try to walk it in.
 
2013-03-14 01:12:19 PM  

Gonz: Stimied in a Rut: Spurs were ousted because Chelsea WON IT last year.

That alone is a pretty good argument that the EPL is doing OK. It's hard to say that a particular league can't compete on a high level when they have the defending champions.


Is that the same Chelsea who became the first holders not to qualify for the knock-out stages?

<b>Norfolking Chance<b/>
Beaten by a better team? Did you see the game? They lost on away goals, beating Munich in their own back-yard, something not many teams have done this season.
 
2013-03-14 01:13:06 PM  

ADubs86: Unless, of course, Tottenham pull a Tottenham


Do not discount this as a possibility. Ever.

Sincerely,
A Spurs fan
 
2013-03-14 01:50:56 PM  

Norfolking Chance: Another CL season like this one and England will only get three CL places


*Only* get three places. First world problems indeed...
 
2013-03-14 02:05:11 PM  

The Muthaship: FourDirections: The Muthaship: mikaloyd: Its not about winning its about playing fair and having fun

And orange slices at half time!

And maybe mom will take us out for pizza after the game if we tried really hard!

Remember that one kid that always showed up dirty, and his mom always "forgot" when it was their turn to bring the juice boxes for after the game?

I hate that kid.


I'm pretty sure that hatting the abuse victim makes you the asshole.
 
2013-03-14 02:16:01 PM  

meanmutton: The Muthaship: FourDirections: The Muthaship: mikaloyd: Its not about winning its about playing fair and having fun

And orange slices at half time!

And maybe mom will take us out for pizza after the game if we tried really hard!

Remember that one kid that always showed up dirty, and his mom always "forgot" when it was their turn to bring the juice boxes for after the game?

I hate that kid.

I'm pretty sure that hatting the abuse victim makes you the asshole.


Wow.  No more kidding around, I promise.
 
2013-03-14 02:27:24 PM  

The Muthaship: meanmutton: The Muthaship: FourDirections: The Muthaship: mikaloyd: Its not about winning its about playing fair and having fun

And orange slices at half time!

And maybe mom will take us out for pizza after the game if we tried really hard!

Remember that one kid that always showed up dirty, and his mom always "forgot" when it was their turn to bring the juice boxes for after the game?

I hate that kid.

I'm pretty sure that hatting the abuse victim makes you the asshole.

Wow.  No more kidding around, I promise.


Okay, maybe a little overboard.
 
2013-03-14 02:30:42 PM  
UEFA Cup thread?

Spurs one-nil down in Italy after 20 minutes. Should still be ok.
Newcastle will do well to get though tonight.
Chelsea still in with a decent chance.

Have I looked at tickets for the final. Yes I have [ouch].
Went to the UEFA Cup final in 2007 - great game, 2-2 after extra-time and I was even in the right place to see the penalties.
 
2013-03-14 02:53:02 PM  

midpoint: Have I looked at tickets for the final. Yes I have


Now that Ajax is out, there may be more available. And have they even announced through the official channels. I thought about putting my name in the lottery but realized we were not going to get that far :D

Here's hoping Chelsea and Plzen get knocked out
 
2013-03-14 03:12:36 PM  
Inter have 2 back now.
 
2013-03-14 03:14:04 PM  
Well now, Spurs might be up against it here. Bale picked a bad time to get an accumulation suspension.
 
2013-03-14 03:21:37 PM  

ADubs86: Well now, Spurs might be up against it here. Bale picked a bad time to get an accumulation suspension.


Actually it was a perfect time. 3 up..get it out the way. Forget needing a scoring threat..they just need to hold inter to under 3. They just aren't doing that part very well.
 
2013-03-14 03:22:44 PM  

ADubs86: Well now, Spurs might be up against it here. Bale picked a bad time to get an accumulation suspension.


They look like a different team without Bale out there.  I know it's their plan to not be super aggressive, but still...
 
2013-03-14 03:26:15 PM  

ScouserDuck: ADubs86: Well now, Spurs might be up against it here. Bale picked a bad time to get an accumulation suspension.

Actually it was a perfect time. 3 up..get it out the way. Forget needing a scoring threat..they just need to hold inter to under 3. They just aren't doing that part very well.


It's one of those 50-50 things: if they advance, he's clear for at least the next few rounds, if they crash out, you'll hear the "one man team" arguments.
 
2013-03-14 03:32:35 PM  
Spurs are Spursing it up in this game. Playing a high line, but continuously getting burned by it. Also giving the ball away in midfield and wasting scoring chances with a totally ineffective forward up top (Adebayor) leads me to believe it will be quite iffy for them to go through. Less than 20 minutes to hold on though...
 
2013-03-14 03:34:06 PM  

ADubs86: ScouserDuck: ADubs86: Well now, Spurs might be up against it here. Bale picked a bad time to get an accumulation suspension.

Actually it was a perfect time. 3 up..get it out the way. Forget needing a scoring threat..they just need to hold inter to under 3. They just aren't doing that part very well.

It's one of those 50-50 things: if they advance, he's clear for at least the next few rounds, if they crash out, you'll hear the "one man team" arguments.


To be fair, Lennon, Sandro, and Michael Dawson are also out (Lennon just subbed in) so I don't think it just has to do with Bale. Also I don't think AVBs tactics have been on point in this game. Also Livermore and Kyle Naughton have sucked in this game.
 
2013-03-14 03:35:04 PM  
Holy shiat, way to go Gallas. Now Spurs have fully Spursed this game. farking incredible. Why the fark would he touch that.
 
2013-03-14 03:35:14 PM  
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
 
2013-03-14 03:35:50 PM  
Goddamnit Spurs.
 
2013-03-14 03:38:57 PM  
15 mins left to fully choke this game away.
You can do it Spurs!

/this would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad
//and predictable
 
2013-03-14 03:39:43 PM  
Sorry spurs...you're a joke today. I mean, I was hoping for some excitement as I would be watching.. But this is a shiat sandwich.
 
2013-03-14 03:39:57 PM  
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Spurs. The Atlanta Braves of England.
 
2013-03-14 03:40:12 PM  
Let me just say that Antonio Cassano is a revelation, considering he's a year removed from a heart operation and here he is making Inter tick.
 
2013-03-14 03:41:50 PM  
OK...rank the final eight in the Champions League. Here's what I have:
1. Barcelona
2. Bayern München
3. Borussia Dortmund
4. Real Madrid
5. Juventus
6. Paris Saint-Germain
7. Galatasaray
8. Malaga
 
2013-03-14 03:43:38 PM  
I do have to say though in true Italian form they have been going down like nobodies business, but not getting booked for some reason. Spurs get hacked and get  booked for diving. A bit inconsistent.
 
2013-03-14 03:44:23 PM  
Wow. that had a little on it.
 
2013-03-14 03:45:31 PM  
Inter parking the bus so they can go to extra time.
 
2013-03-14 03:53:40 PM  
Gallas has been farking pathetic tonight.
 
2013-03-14 03:54:12 PM  
I'm pretty new to soccer.  How does extra time work?  Is it sudden death?
 
2013-03-14 03:55:40 PM  

R Kelly's Doo Doo Butter: I'm pretty new to soccer.  How does extra time work?  Is it sudden death?


2 full 15 minute periods.
 
2013-03-14 03:55:41 PM  

R Kelly's Doo Doo Butter: I'm pretty new to soccer.  How does extra time work?  Is it sudden death?


No, just extra time. Penalty kicks if it's still tied after that.
 
2013-03-14 03:58:48 PM  

R Kelly's Doo Doo Butter: I'm pretty new to soccer.  How does extra time work?  Is it sudden death?


But away goals stll count, so the only way it can go to kicks is if it stays 0 - 0.
 
2013-03-14 04:02:36 PM  
I'm kinda torn.
If Spurs lose this, that means they free up their schedule to concentrate on securing a top 4 (and thus CL spot) in the EPL.
If they win this, they'll have to deal with two high pressure situations (EPL & Europa League) and could potentially lose the chance at a top 4 spot.

Then again, no one likes to lose. C'mon Spurs, almost had that one.
 
2013-03-14 04:04:27 PM  
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
 
2013-03-14 04:04:29 PM  
There it is.
 
2013-03-14 04:04:59 PM  
ADE!!!!!
 
2013-03-14 04:06:15 PM  
ADE!
Who saw that coming?
 
2013-03-14 04:08:12 PM  
Okay, with away goals, this means Inter has to score twice now, right? (to win that is)
 
2013-03-14 04:12:24 PM  

Mr_H: Okay, with away goals, this means Inter has to score twice now, right? (to win that is)


Correct. No chance for pens now.
 
2013-03-14 04:12:45 PM  

Mr_H: Okay, with away goals, this means Inter has to score twice now, right? (to win that is)


Correct, also means no penalties.  I don't agree that away goals should count in extra time, but I don't make the rules (even though I should).
 
2013-03-14 04:16:11 PM  

Stimied in a Rut: Mr_H: Okay, with away goals, this means Inter has to score twice now, right? (to win that is)

Correct, also means no penalties.  I don't agree that away goals should count in extra time, but I don't make the rules (even though I should).


Scoring
1. Should the entirety of the ball cross the plane, a goal is scored.
  1a.  If said goal is against Stimied in a Rut's team, the goalscorer shall be flogged.
 
2013-03-14 04:19:46 PM  

Mr_H: Stimied in a Rut: Mr_H: Okay, with away goals, this means Inter has to score twice now, right? (to win that is)

Correct, also means no penalties.  I don't agree that away goals should count in extra time, but I don't make the rules (even though I should).

Scoring
1. Should the entirety of the ball cross the plane, a goal is scored.
  1a.  If said goal is against Stimied in a Rut's team, the goalscorer shall be flogged.


Pretty much, yep.
 
2013-03-14 04:19:58 PM  
Spurs are screwed now. Inter is bringing in a god damn superhero.
 
2013-03-14 04:20:33 PM  
Also I have to go to class now and will have to follow along with BBC's live text. Come on Spurs, hold out just a bit more!
 
2013-03-14 04:25:14 PM  
Squeaky bum time!
 
2013-03-14 04:26:06 PM  
Arsene Wenger likes this.
 
2013-03-14 04:28:27 PM  
Did that medics jacket say "Chef Doctor"?
 
2013-03-14 04:31:46 PM  
10 mins to choke it away again.
 
2013-03-14 04:33:00 PM  
I guess this does prove that Spurs are a one-man team at this point in the season.

/should have brought in a striker
 
2013-03-14 04:35:33 PM  
Is Dempsey injured?
 
2013-03-14 04:36:29 PM  

ScouserDuck: Is Dempsey injured?


Thigh problem. Should be back at the weekend.
 
2013-03-14 04:36:57 PM  
You lucky bastards.
 
2013-03-14 04:37:43 PM  
Skin of your teeth spurs. Skin of your mother-farking teeth.
 
2013-03-14 04:40:03 PM  
Chelsea with a gift.
 
2013-03-14 04:40:51 PM  
BTW.. I love the Europa League jacking of this thread.
 
2013-03-14 04:44:06 PM  

ScouserDuck: BTW.. I love the Europa League jacking of this thread.


Meh, I'm subby and I like the EL. Jack away.
Wait...
 
2013-03-14 04:46:06 PM  

Mr_H: I'm kinda torn.
If Spurs lose this, that means they free up their schedule to concentrate on securing a top 4 (and thus CL spot) in the EPL.
If they win this, they'll have to deal with two high pressure situations (EPL & Europa League) and could potentially lose the chance at a top 4 spot.


No one will remember a 2nd 3rd or 4th place finish in 20 years. A European trophy is a different story
 
2013-03-14 04:48:57 PM  
You want something weird, tune into Fenerbache - Plzen. It's being played in an empty stadium
 
2013-03-14 04:52:06 PM  
STEAUA!!
 
2013-03-14 04:52:32 PM  
Bucharest with an away goal.
 
2013-03-14 04:53:14 PM  

Cajnik: You want something weird, tune into Fenerbache - Plzen. It's being played in an empty stadium


For what, racist fans?
 
2013-03-14 05:02:24 PM  

FireZs: Cajnik: You want something weird, tune into Fenerbache - Plzen. It's being played in an empty stadium

For what, racist fans?


Not news: Fans throw road flares onto the field. Solution: Ban home fans from entering the stadium. Fark: Fans parachute signal flares over the stadium walls, onto the field
 
2013-03-14 05:02:34 PM  
My beautiful game going over worst own goals...

Mine is J.A Riise vs. Chelsea in the champs league...I remember that moment like it was yesterday.
 
2013-03-14 05:11:47 PM  

drewogatory: You suck and you are holding back Arsenal.

If you believe this you're an idiot. Arsenal is practically a model for how a team should be run and maybe excepting Barca they are the best run club outside of Germany (which due to their rules is far,far and away the best run league in the world).


Nobody questions how well run the club is run.  Everybody sane who follows The Arsenal questions Wenger's transfer policy, how a £150 Million payroll amounts to jack and shiat when it comes to trophies, his stubborness and his inability to be critical of his own team when they give a subpar performance.

Also:  see Nottingham Forest and Brian Clough's last years there as a prime example of when people do not hold the manager accountable and the results of said lack of accountability.

I love Arsene to death, but there's a reason why Sir Alex Ferguson is about to win another PL title and why Arsenal are struggling to get 4th...and it ain't the payroll.
 
2013-03-14 05:32:26 PM  
EBJT gets one for the Blues, now they need another.
 
2013-03-14 05:34:45 PM  
TORRES!
 
2013-03-14 05:35:39 PM  
Torres just pulled them ahead.
 
2013-03-14 05:38:24 PM  
I understand why he's furious too. He was rolling around the turf like a biatch. Play continued and he was in the way. He should be furious for being so stupid.
 
2013-03-14 05:48:11 PM  
Hazard suarezed (Baled?) the shiat out of that.
 
2013-03-14 05:48:55 PM  
Hahahaha
 
2013-03-14 05:49:58 PM  
Chelsea win a penalty, which Torres promptly volunteers to take....and misses. Torres gonna Torres. Lulz.
 
2013-03-14 05:50:57 PM  

ScouserDuck: Hazard suarezed (Baled?) the shiat out of that.


Eh, it looked valid. He got hit knee-to-knee, and those can hurt.
 
2013-03-14 05:51:59 PM  

FireZs: ScouserDuck: Hazard suarezed (Baled?) the shiat out of that.

Eh, it looked valid. He got hit knee-to-knee, and those can hurt.


Sure. But that contact happened after he made the 2 foot leap to go down. He jumped into it.
 
2013-03-14 05:53:01 PM  
Ooh close but a miss nonetheless. Too bad Nando.
 
2013-03-14 05:54:56 PM  
sephjnr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
 
2013-03-14 05:57:03 PM  
What a last second winner from Newcastle.
 
2013-03-14 05:58:15 PM  
PAPISS!!!
There's a dagger in the heart.
 
2013-03-14 06:00:49 PM  
Nice to see Newcastle get the late winner
 
2013-03-14 06:19:55 PM  
Three English teams into the quarterfinals. Not too shabby
 
2013-03-14 09:29:16 PM  

Norfolking Chance: drewogatory: You suck and you are holding back Arsenal.

If you believe this you're an idiot. Arsenal is practically a model for how a team should be run and maybe excepting Barca they are the best run club outside of Germany (which due to their rules is far,far and away the best run league in the world).


Off the pitch Arsenal is one of the most stable clubs financially in Europe yes but on the pitch Wenger has had the money to spend to bring in players to keep them fighting for the top but he hasn't spent it. It's sad to see a manager grow stale but still insists on following the same dogmatic formula that brought him success a decade ago but that has happened at Arsenal. The longer Wenger stays at Arsenal the longer they will struggle to get into the CL and without silverware filling the Emirates will become more and more difficult. Another CL season like this one and England will only get three CL places and do you see the current Arsenal being ahead of Chelsea or Man City? Plus Spurs and Liverpool are now starting to fire and are looking like overtaking Arsenal as well.

SAF had lost the best player in the PL two years ago and what happened? Lost the league on goal difference last season and is now clear and now looking like they will win it this year. Just by spending money smartly on RvP, Kagawa and others to strengthen his squad. Who has Wenger brought in to replace Nasri (IAC) and RvP? No one close to their ability. At one time you could mention Wenger and Ferguson in the same breath but now people will look at you funny if you said both managers were equal.


There is zero chance of England losing the 4th CL spot after next season unless they're stripped of a spot for off-field irregularities.
 
2013-03-15 01:42:17 PM  
Champions League quarterfinals:

Real Madrid vs Galatasaray
Malaga vs Borussia Dortmund
PSG vs Barcelona
Bayern Munich vs Juventus

Note: they did not to a semifinal draw. That will happen next month after the quarters.
 
2013-03-15 02:14:23 PM  
All seem like pretty interesting matchups, with BM/Juve taking the cake. Any explanation for why they are holding off the draw for the semifinals? Hate to feed into the conspiracy claims that the uefa draws are fixed to boost interest, but the only reason i can think to delay the semifinal draw is if you where waiting to see who goes through so that you can fix the draw to boost interest...
 
2013-03-15 02:18:04 PM  

Sachbash: All seem like pretty interesting matchups, with BM/Juve taking the cake. Any explanation for why they are holding off the draw for the semifinals? Hate to feed into the conspiracy claims that the uefa draws are fixed to boost interest, but the only reason i can think to delay the semifinal draw is if you where waiting to see who goes through so that you can fix the draw to boost interest...


ding ding ding

Prediction (for viewership)
Barca v Real
Juve v Dortmund
 
2013-03-15 02:42:34 PM  
ya that looks about right. Wish Ibra wasn't suspended for the first leg, as it would make a PSG upset a lot more plausible.
 
2013-03-15 03:05:57 PM  

Sachbash: ya that looks about right. Wish Ibra wasn't suspended for the first leg, as it would make a PSG upset a lot more plausible.


I thought The Zlatan was back, was only suspended for one match?  I dont think PSG could overturn Barca after watching them dismantle Milan this week, though there will be goals aplenty.  Zlatan taking on Puyol?  Sounds like a video game.
 
2013-03-15 03:18:33 PM  
just looked it up and apparently his suspension is up for review at the end of the month, but as it stands he's currently missing the first leg in paris. I'd almost feel sorry for puyol if villanova/roura put stopping the swedish pirate squarely on his aging shoulders. He's been rather exposed in recent months
 
2013-03-15 03:23:01 PM  
And Europa League quarters...

Chelsea vs Rubin Kazan
Tottenham vs Basel
Newcastle vs Benfica
Lazio vs Fenerbahce
 
2013-03-15 03:40:36 PM  
For some reason, I feel like Europa League will gain a lot more stature this year on fark....
 
2013-03-15 03:46:09 PM  

Sachbash: just looked it up and apparently his suspension is up for review at the end of the month, but as it stands he's currently missing the first leg in paris. I'd almost feel sorry for puyol if villanova/roura put stopping the swedish pirate squarely on his aging shoulders. He's been rather exposed in recent months


With the way Zlatan roams it will fall on his shoulders eventually.

desertgeek: And Europa League quarters...

Chelsea vs Rubin Kazan
Tottenham vs Basel
Newcastle vs Benfica
Lazio vs Fenerbahce


I wish I watched enough of the Europa League to make predictions there, but considering the English teams representing I guess its important to their media again.  Seems like fairly pedestrian foes against them, albeit.  I would make some guesses but in the end, who cares?  Because I don't want the English to have any hardware I'm going with Lazio to pull some upset in the final against Chelski.  Torres misses 5 penals.
 
2013-03-15 03:46:47 PM  

Sachbash: For some reason, I feel like Europa League will gain a lot more stature this year on fark....


Haha!  My thoughts exactly, see above post.
 
2013-03-15 04:06:21 PM  
It seems as if Europa is getting more coverage than usual (that could just be me becoming a domestic engineer and being able to watch the games. Loving the chips league matchups. If there is one thing we've learned about Barca this campaign is that they do have weaknesses and can be beat. If you look back, AC Milan was 1 meter from advancing (I know, that's soccer).

But i think I'll be rooting for PSG and Gala. Either of them would be tremendous champs.

Oh and I also concur that the draws are probably fixed. I don't understand how I can continue to love the shiat out of a sport that is so obviously dirty.
 
2013-03-15 04:25:52 PM  

ScouserDuck: It seems as if Europa is getting more coverage than usual (that could just be me becoming a domestic engineer and being able to watch the games. Loving the chips league matchups. If there is one thing we've learned about Barca this campaign is that they do have weaknesses and can be beat. If you look back, AC Milan was 1 meter from advancing (I know, that's soccer).

But i think I'll be rooting for PSG and Gala. Either of them would be tremendous champs.

Oh and I also concur that the draws are probably fixed. I don't understand how I can continue to love the shiat out of a sport that is so obviously dirty.


I'm afraid you'll be finding out just how fixed the "competition" is, neither of those sides will even see the semis.

Seeing as you are Scouser you should know why you're seeing more of the EL this year, your media is gobbling it up!

/By the way, this domestic engineer role sounds good, whats it take?  Impregnation I assume?
 
2013-03-15 05:58:57 PM  

Halstread: ScouserDuck: It seems as if Europa is getting more coverage than usual (that could just be me becoming a domestic engineer and being able to watch the games. Loving the chips league matchups. If there is one thing we've learned about Barca this campaign is that they do have weaknesses and can be beat. If you look back, AC Milan was 1 meter from advancing (I know, that's soccer).

But i think I'll be rooting for PSG and Gala. Either of them would be tremendous champs.

Oh and I also concur that the draws are probably fixed. I don't understand how I can continue to love the shiat out of a sport that is so obviously dirty.

I'm afraid you'll be finding out just how fixed the "competition" is, neither of those sides will even see the semis.

Seeing as you are Scouser you should know why you're seeing more of the EL this year, your media is gobbling it up!

/By the way, this domestic engineer role sounds good, whats it take?  Impregnation I assume?


You could go the impregnation route. We did. We also had the combination of the wife making more money and my teachers pay being predominantly earmarked for childcare if I were to continue working. I prefer to taking care of the little buckaroo myself rather than pay somebody else to juggle her with 12+ other germ monkeys and we're blessed enough to be able to pull that off.

If you're neat and a good enough cook you could try and sell your SO the fact that if you stayed home, she would have awesome meals and a consistantly clean house dramatically increasing her happiness and standard of life. Always worth a try.

But in all honesty...it's a lot of work but I love the hell out of it.
 
2013-03-15 07:45:40 PM  

Halstread: Sachbash: All seem like pretty interesting matchups, with BM/Juve taking the cake. Any explanation for why they are holding off the draw for the semifinals? Hate to feed into the conspiracy claims that the uefa draws are fixed to boost interest, but the only reason i can think to delay the semifinal draw is if you where waiting to see who goes through so that you can fix the draw to boost interest...

ding ding ding

Prediction (for viewership)
Barca v Real
Juve v Dortmund


You think? Bayern-Dortmund is becoming as much of a must-watch rivalry as Barca-RM. I don't see Juventus playing into that. I think it'll be the two German teams and the two Spanish teams. How they draw out is anyone's guess.
 
2013-03-17 05:08:20 PM  

Halstread: Chelsea vs Rubin Kazan
Tottenham vs Basel
Newcastle vs Benfica
Lazio vs Fenerbahce

I wish I watched enough of the Europa League to make predictions there, but considering the English teams representing I guess its important to their media again.


A lot of good teams have already been knocked out to get to these eight. I think there are a lot of groups (so a lot of matches) which makes it harder to to see stand out clubs, but I am still very happy with the format. A second tier to the CL is needed.

Anyway, I think Newcastle, Fenerbahce or Benfica could take it. Spurs would be nice, but I think they secretly still are focused on the top 3 while assuring everyone they take the EL seriously. Chelsea we know are lying through their teeth when they say so.
 
2013-03-17 05:10:24 PM  
And another thing, having so many English clubs still in the EL will mean the English country and each club's coefficient will not slide very much
 
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