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(Politico)   Bill Gates on D.C. politics: "You don't run a business like this" which means Boehner is Steve Ballmer and Paul Ryan's budget is Windows Vista   (politico.com) divider line 44
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2013-03-14 08:30:39 AM  
You're being magnanimous, subby.  Ryan's budget is more like Windows ME.
 
2013-03-14 08:43:10 AM  
No, you usually don't run a business where your budget is determined by a coalition of larger, different businesses, many of which have a vested interest to interfere with the operation of your business.
 
2013-03-14 08:48:25 AM  
Democracy isn't a business, and should not be run like a business.
 
2013-03-14 08:49:37 AM  
Right. Because only recently its all been Farked.
 
2013-03-14 08:51:39 AM  
I was just talking to someone about this.  The GOP always preach about running the government like a business, but how successful would you be in business if all you did was say the opposite of the guy you're negotiating with while shoving your one-sided terms into every conversation?
 
2013-03-14 08:53:09 AM  

Nurglitch: Democracy isn't a business, and should not be run like a business.


And if anybody knows how not to run like a business, it's the genius behind the Zune.
 
2013-03-14 08:58:28 AM  
America isn't a business. It's a society.
 
2013-03-14 09:00:29 AM  

lordjupiter: I was just talking to someone about this.  The GOP always preach about running the government like a business, but how successful would you be in business if all you did was say the opposite of the guy you're negotiating with while shoving your one-sided terms into every conversation?


Yet to their base, they make total sense.
 
2013-03-14 09:00:38 AM  
Nah, subby.

Vista was awkward and unpopular, but ultimately worked.  Ryan's budget's only got the first two.
 
2013-03-14 09:01:10 AM  
Government is not  nor should not be a business.  The purpose of government is to do things that would be inefficient/impossible for a business to do (provide for common defense, secure the liberties of all).  It's a sad thing when one has to give a civics lesson to one of the most successful entrepreneurs on the planet because he's shelling out the same folksy bullshiat lines that got us into the mess we are in in the first place.
 
2013-03-14 09:01:16 AM  
Governments shouldn't be run like businesses.
 
2013-03-14 09:01:56 AM  
Bill Gates on malaria research: As a result, governments and philanthropic organisations have to step in to offset this "flaw in the pure capitalistic approach". The Gates Foundation focuses on finding under invested areas of basic science and focusing an innovation agenda on the needs of the poor, specifically looking at education and health.

Which is it, Bill? Should a government be run like a business, or should malaria research get funding?
 
2013-03-14 09:03:22 AM  

xanadian: You're being magnanimous, subby.  Ryan's budget is more like Windows ME.


Jim_Callahan: Nah, subby.

Vista was awkward and unpopular, but ultimately worked.  Ryan's budget's only got the first two.


Okay Okay, my bad. I thought ME wouldn't be cool enough to compare Ryan to. We needed a recent failure, much like Ryan
 
2013-03-14 09:03:25 AM  
America's product is rich CEO's and outsourced jobs
 
2013-03-14 09:09:16 AM  

Nurglitch: Democracy isn't a business, and should not be run like a business.


This idea that everything should be run "like a business" is literally destroying our society.

/Educator.
 
2013-03-14 09:10:06 AM  
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2013-03-14 09:16:46 AM  

xanadian: You're being magnanimous, subby.  Ryan's budget is more like Windows ME.


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2013-03-14 09:17:03 AM  
Gov't shouldn't be run as a business.

That said, they could probably learn a thing or two from businesses... like the difference between profit center and a cost center.
 
2013-03-14 09:26:14 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Nah, subby.

Vista was awkward and unpopular, but ultimately worked.  Ryan's budget's only got the first two.


To extend the metaphor a bit -- Vista was terrible and buggy, but Microsoft went back, learned from their mistakes, and built a better version in the form of Windows 7; the Ryan budget would be if Microsoft were slammed in the tech press, lost market share, promised to do better -- and then re-released Vista.

/not subby
 
2013-03-14 09:26:21 AM  
Why are people still making Windows Vista jokes when Microsoft's flagship product is the steaming Misthaufen Windows 8?
 
2013-03-14 09:27:49 AM  

EyeballKid: Nurglitch: Democracy isn't a business, and should not be run like a business.

And if anybody knows how not to run like a business, it's the genius behind the Zune.


hey, I love my zune
 
2013-03-14 09:32:18 AM  

vartian: No, you usually don't run a business where your budget is determined by a coalition of larger, different businesses, many of which have a vested interest to interfere with the operation of your business.


Nurglitch: Democracy isn't a business, and should not be run like a business.


Drasancas: America isn't a business. It's a society.

 
2013-03-14 09:35:13 AM  
You know Melinda French was one of the Marketing Managers of Windows BOB.

She became Melinda Gates a few years later.


/ The more you know
 
2013-03-14 09:35:33 AM  

azazyel: hey, I love my zune


I've heard of others that love their Zunes too.  The problem wasn't the technology so much as the marketing.  They release a killer feature - wifi streaming of songs from one device to another - and instantly crippled it by putting DRM on any song transferred.  Recording of your son's first words while you were away?  Too bad, you can only listen to it for three days then you have to buy it off Microsoft's store, which was also crippled by DRM "PlaysForSure" which they subsequently abandoned, turning it into "PlaysNeverAgain".

You'd think Microsoft would've learned that chasing Apple's business model is hopeless, but here they are doing it again with their "iPad killer".  Please get that accountant out of the CEO role, MSFT.
 
2013-03-14 09:35:36 AM  

syrynxx: Why are people still making Windows Vista jokes when Microsoft's flagship product is the steaming Misthaufen Windows 8?


Windows 8 is the best OS Microsoft has ever shipped and if you have any facts to the contrary other then OMG METRO then I'm welcome to hear them.
 
2013-03-14 09:42:47 AM  

Bored Horde: syrynxx: Why are people still making Windows Vista jokes when Microsoft's flagship product is the steaming Misthaufen Windows 8?

Windows 8 is the best OS Microsoft has ever shipped and if you have any facts to the contrary other then OMG METRO then I'm welcome to hear them.


Most of the business world doesn't have time to learn a new interface every 3 or 4 years because it fits Microsoft's business model.
 
2013-03-14 09:47:13 AM  

Bored Horde: syrynxx: Why are people still making Windows Vista jokes when Microsoft's flagship product is the steaming Misthaufen Windows 8?

Windows 8 is the best OS Microsoft has ever shipped and if you have any facts to the contrary other then OMG METRO then I'm welcome to hear them.


I installed 500 programs on our copy (typical setup for us). The "start" screen became unusable, which in turn rendered the machine useless
 
2013-03-14 09:47:28 AM  
The only person who ever ran a business the way liberals want to run government was Bernie Madoff.

As for Ryan's budget? You call Republicans the party of no, but they at least have a budget... Does that make the Democrats the party of nothing? An operating system that nobody likes still runs a computer a bit better than an operating system that has yet to have its '2013' version released and whose '2012' version was even less popular than the Ryan v.2.0.1.3
 
2013-03-14 09:50:56 AM  

syrynxx: Why are people still making Windows Vista jokes when Microsoft's flagship product is the steaming Misthaufen Windows 8?


Because when you get past the (avoidable)shiatty interface, it's clean and fast as hell.
 
2013-03-14 09:51:15 AM  
Subby, I don't follow the analogy.  If it was humor, is Boehner equivalent to the President, and Ryan's budget is a an unpopular working product if only a few generations outdated? Is Boehner a poor replacement for a more popular predecessor in Pelosi?  I seriously cant think of why Ryan's budget would equate to Vista.

Headline fails on many levels.

Should have gone with something like a comparison to Enron or some other massive failure.

Gates has a point. A business run like the US government would have failed long ago.
 
2013-03-14 10:00:16 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Subby, I don't follow the analogy.  If it was humor, is Boehner equivalent to the President, and Ryan's budget is a an unpopular working product if only a few generations outdated? Is Boehner a poor replacement for a more popular predecessor in Pelosi?  I seriously cant think of why Ryan's budget would equate to Vista.

Headline fails on many levels.

Should have gone with something like a comparison to Enron or some other massive failure.

Gates has a point. A business run like the US government would have failed long ago.


As would a government run like a business.
 
2013-03-14 10:45:49 AM  

jgbrowning: Governments shouldn't be run like businesses.


Some government functions are essentially businesses, though. The best example is the Post Office. The Federal Reserve and other governmental "corporations" are basically businesses.
 
2013-03-14 10:48:14 AM  
http://washingtonexaminer.com/carney-how-hatch-forced-microsoft-to-pl a y-k-streets-game/article/2500453

I know this article is old, or from the future, however you want to look at it, but it fits here.
 
2013-03-14 10:54:15 AM  

Generation_D: You know Melinda French was one of the Marketing Managers of Windows BOB.

She became Melinda Gates a few years later.


/ The more you know



 I was going to make a "Neal and Bob" joke, but it sounded too forced.
 
2013-03-14 11:39:02 AM  

machodonkeywrestler: Tricky Chicken: Subby, I don't follow the analogy.  If it was humor, is Boehner equivalent to the President, and Ryan's budget is a an unpopular working product if only a few generations outdated? Is Boehner a poor replacement for a more popular predecessor in Pelosi?  I seriously cant think of why Ryan's budget would equate to Vista.

Headline fails on many levels.

Should have gone with something like a comparison to Enron or some other massive failure.

Gates has a point. A business run like the US government would have failed long ago.

As would a government run like a business.


Good point, who the hell would want a for profit government.  Touche.
 
2013-03-14 11:40:43 AM  

randomjsa: The only person who ever ran a business the way liberals want to run government was Bernie Madoff.

As for Ryan's budget? You call Republicans the party of no, but they at least have a budget... Does that make the Democrats the party of nothing? An operating system that nobody likes still runs a computer a bit better than an operating system that has yet to have its '2013' version released and whose '2012' version was even less popular than the Ryan v.2.0.1.3



Those damn liberals and their trickle down economic policies!
 
2013-03-14 12:03:21 PM  
The analogy would be more like the following:
Obama is Bill Gates
Michelle is Melinda Gates
Biden is Balmer
Obamacare is OS2
Drones are Halo

Boehner is John Sculley
Ryan is the Lisa
Ryan budget is G4 cube
/Discuss amongst yourselves
 
2013-03-14 12:15:53 PM  
No, you shouldn't try to run a government like a business. Businesses are there to make money. Governments are there to serve the people.
 
2013-03-14 12:18:53 PM  

Lando Lincoln: No, you shouldn't try to run a government like a business. Businesses are there to make money. Governments are there to serve the people.


So the budget is like a cookbook?
 
2013-03-14 12:48:59 PM  

xanadian: You're being magnanimous, subby.  Ryan's budget is more like Windows ME.


more like Clippy. attractive only to the terminally stupid. annoying and in the way of useful work for the rest of us.
 
2013-03-14 12:54:08 PM  

Bored Horde: syrynxx: Why are people still making Windows Vista jokes when Microsoft's flagship product is the steaming Misthaufen Windows 8?

Windows 8 is the best OS Microsoft has ever shipped and if you have any facts to the contrary other then OMG METRO then I'm welcome to hear them.


IMHO, Vista wasn't all that bad. I'm no programmer type and only use my computer to browse the web, email and play solitaire etc. Farking Windows 8 sucked donkey schlongs as far as my needs go. Yes, I'm old!
 
2013-03-14 02:33:34 PM  
The goals of government and business are certainly different.  The process by which goals are pursued is what Gates and others are talking about.
 
2013-03-14 03:42:04 PM  
After reading the Steve Jobs biography, Gates has my respect.  That guy loved to mess with Jobs personally. Jobs deserved to too.
 
2013-03-15 01:40:28 AM  
Business requires growth and innovation, something Republicans hate.

If the Republican plan were applied to McDonalds, they would be shutting down locations left and right and a Big Mac would cost 20 cents for the consumer, despite costing more than that in materials, labor, et al.
 
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