FullMetalPanda: WTF, tortoise shells? How the fark do you make a bow from a shell? Must be a farking big shell!
Gordon Bennett: FullMetalPanda: WTF, tortoise shells? How the fark do you make a bow from a shell? Must be a farking big shell!Some tortoises grow to be quite large.[rookery.s3.amazonaws.com image 624x530]
Recoil Therapy: I'll admit that the headline (& their phrasing - passport?) had me scratching my head but it sounds like a good common sense program (wow, common sense from various government bodies. Who'da thunk it). Is there anything other than humans that are issued passports? It just seems odd that they would call it that rather than say a permit or license.Regardless, I'm sure that it's better for the instruments not to be stripped down & reassembled every time they need to cross a line on a map (people too for that matter but the security theater argument is for a different thread...).
GORDON: Yes but will the TSA still be required to destroy the instruments after they are checked?
verbaltoxin: The irony here is some American made guitars are built using rare woods, and are then exported. So people in other countries who bought an American guitar and want to travel to the USA, need a passport for their guitar.
Rincewind53: The bow isn't tortoise shell, the frog on the bow is.
Speaker2Animals: WTF, a piano? Portable instruments, yeah, but you can find a Steinway anywhere.
Happy Hours: Rincewind53: The bow isn't tortoise shell, the frog on the bow is.Frogs made out of tortoises?Sounds like a masterful piece of genetic engineering
Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Seems like it would be easier to travel with a piano with wood keys and wood/metal/plastic violin bows. It's not like ivory keys and tortoise shell bows make any difference in the sound.
Glockenspiel Hero: This is why I only buy First Act guitars from WalMart. No worries about rare imported woods. Or wood at all, for that matter. Kind of like pasteurized processed cheese food.
FullMetalPanda: Musicians who have instruments made from endangered animals, like pianos made with ivory keys or violin bows crafted from tortoise shell, could find international travel a bit easier, thanks to new trade rules that will require a passport for their instruments.The Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) agreed to a multi-entry system based on a U.S. proposal to issue passports good for three years, the U.K.'sPrior to this, musicians needed a new permit for each time they traveled and were forced to do such drastic things as remove all the ivory from the piano in order to transport the instrument."This is monumental because it facilitates movement of musicians, particularly orchestras," Bryan Arroyo, head of the U.S. trade delegation that proposed the scheme told the Telegraph.A British expert, who wished to remain anonymous, told the AFP: "No one wants to harm elephants but it seems a little ridiculous to have to apply for a CITES (permit) for a 120-year old piano."WTF, tortoise shells? How the fark do you make a bow from a shell? Must be a farking big shell!
ukexpat: Imagine all the cute passport photos!
ArtosRC: ukexpat: Imagine all the cute passport photos!My passport photo is the single-greatest photo ever taken of me. It's such a damn shame that I can't use it outside of the customs window.
factoryconnection: Speaker2Animals: WTF, a piano? Portable instruments, yeah, but you can find a Steinway anywhere.You can find a century-plus-old, top-quality, top-condition grand piano anywhere in the world? That someone will let you use? You must have terrific connections everywhere in the world!
pciszek: GORDON: Yes but will the TSA still be required to destroy the instruments after they are checked?I thought that the actual destruction of the instruments was still done by the private sector, i.e., airline baggage handlers.
Happy Hours: pciszek: GORDON: Yes but will the TSA still be required to destroy the instruments after they are checked?I thought that the actual destruction of the instruments was still done by the private sector, i.e., airline baggage handlers.Some famous concert pianist supposedly had his piano destroyed by the TSA because the glue smelled like explosives to them. I can't remember all the details, but before he finished a concert (in LA, I think) he stood up and went into a tirade and swore never to come back to the US.
ukexpat: Can't you scan it?
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