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2013-03-14 09:36:42 AM
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Gifted Many Few: How are tobacco farms still in business, but a food farm in a starving world is struggling?


Because at least in the US the vast majority of tobacco farms shut down in the '90's.  The tobacco industry is a shell of its former self, at least from the farming perspective.

I'm in Kentucky, that was prime tobacco territory.  In my childhood in the '80's you could drive around the state and most farms grew burley tobacco.  It was well accepted that if you lived in the country and went to high school, in the spring you could get excused from class if you were working on the tobacco crops.

Then in the late 90's the tobacco buyout happened.  Part of the big Master Settlement Agreement with the industry as I understand it.  Most tobacco farmers got a buyout from the Federal government to permanently get out of tobacco.  Most moved over to growing corn and soy.

There used to be loads of tobacco warehouses in Lexington, just to the west of the University of Kentucky campus, near Angliana and Broadway. . .now I think there is just one or two left and the warehouses have been torn down and turned into apartment complexes for students.

Yeah, tobacco is still around in stores, but that was part of the whole agreement, that tobacco companies wouldn't be exterminated by the government in exchange for vastly reducing their scale.

So, tobacco is around because people are addicted to it and a government agreement to not destroy the industry.

As for sugar?  Relating to TFA?  Well, I would think that consumption of sugar may be dropping as people eat healthier.  Sugar-free option and low-sugar foods are popular.  Refined sugar is not good for you.  Combine that with the noxious sludge known as HFCS (made from the corn that is grown where they used to grow tobacco) displacing some sugar consumption and that's a problem.

Sugar itself is not easy to produce in the US.  The big reason HFCS became popular in the US as a sweetener was a law of unintended consequences problem.  Only a few places in the USA are good for sugar production, mostly along the gulf coast and Hawaii.  Even then, it's more expensive to produce it there than overseas, so foreign sugar is cheaper.  Tariffs make foreign sugar more expensive, so US producers are not run out of business.

However, that means that per-ounce, the US pays some of the highest prices in the world for sugar.  Food companies switched to HFCS instead for a sweetener, since its cheaper per-ounce (especially with the Federal corn subsidy).  Thus, US sugar still has trouble selling.

Basically, that vaunted Free Market?  It says the sugar market in the US should die because it's not profitable.  However, the same people who talk about Free Market are sure to bail out and prop up with subsidies businesses who should fail because of politics.
2013-03-14 09:47:53 AM
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Basically, that vaunted Free Market? It says the sugar market in the US should die because it's not profitable. However, the same people who talk about Free Market are sure to bail out and prop up with subsidies businesses who should fail because of politics.

Yup.

The family farm is a lie at this point, just another means to leech government money for a selected few (land owners and corporate farming companies)
2013-03-14 09:35:25 AM
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Gifted Many Few: How are tobacco farms still in business, but a food farm in a starving world is struggling?


1. Tobacco is a cash crop with whatever markup you want.  Wheat... isn't, because no government wants to be the one where a year's supply of bread costs more than a year of the average salary when they deregulate the markets.

2.  The world's not starving, regional food shortages are typically distribution difficulties more than supply difficulties.

3.  The US has a  gigantic food surplus that we intentionally maintain to keep up our global political and business influence.

there you go.
2013-03-14 09:19:37 AM
2 votes:
Cut the fkn farm subsidies. All going to asshats that vote Republican.
2013-03-14 02:00:24 PM
1 votes:

Alphakronik: Yes, sugar is poison.


Go a month without eating any sugars and see how you feel.  I'm not just talking refined sugar, I'm talking all sugars.  Lactose, fructose, glucose, ect.


Exactly
2013-03-14 01:07:33 PM
1 votes:

Incog_Neeto: doubled99: By "Sugar" do they mean cane sugar or HFCS?

Cane is equally bad as HFCS.


Another deluded consumer

You're the deluded one if you think sugar is better for you than HFCS.


Cane is sucrose. HFCS is glucose. They absorb differently in the human body.
2013-03-14 10:04:35 AM
1 votes:
Sugar isn't "bad" for you. Just don't eat a metric ton of it.
Why is this concept so farkin difficult?
2013-03-14 09:32:08 AM
1 votes:
We subsidize the corn industry.  We subsidize the sugar industry.  What is new here?

We also keep the price of sugar artificially inflated by keeping the biggest, nearest producer of can sugar out of our market.
2013-03-14 09:07:52 AM
1 votes:
First you get the sugar, then you get the power, *then* you get the women.
2013-03-14 08:29:54 AM
1 votes:
But it's the welfare mothers who are bleeding us dry!
 
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