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(Orlando Sentinel)   Florida wants to ban all internet cafes in Florida because Florida still has internet cafes   (blogs.orlandosentinel.com) divider line 24
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2013-03-13 09:45:54 PM
7 votes:
In Florida, "Internet Cafe" is really a euphemism for electronic gambling. I haven't seen one that wasn't 18+ with nothing but old people inside gambling.
2013-03-14 12:24:57 AM
2 votes:
Jesus. I blame the media for this. They started calling them internet cafes without any regard for what that term actually means. Internet cafes are establishments to get online, usually for casual gaming unless you're in lesser Korea where you play til you are dead. These places are cheap electronic gambling huts.
2013-03-14 12:21:44 AM
2 votes:

fusillade762: rynthetyn: In Florida, "Internet Cafe" is really a euphemism for electronic gambling. I haven't seen one that wasn't 18+ with nothing but old people inside gambling.

Ah, so they're slot parlors. Why not just call them that?


They aren't actually slots though, although Florida is certainly infested with enough of those as it is. Best I can tell from the stories about our illustrious Lt. Governor resigning today, these places fall into the same legal category as charity bingo, and they're playing any number of games.
2013-03-13 11:46:58 PM
2 votes:

rynthetyn: In Florida, "Internet Cafe" is really a euphemism for electronic gambling.


OK, here's the thing, Orlando Sentinel, I had to go to Fark to find out WTF is the problem with "internet cafes" in Florida.
2013-03-13 11:45:06 PM
2 votes:
So they really want to shut down illegal gambling establishments--

I have no problem with that, but don't call them internet cafes. Sure maybe 95% of the places call themselves internet cafes to appear legitimate, BUT THEY'RE NOT INTERNET CAFES.

I used to know a guy who sold quarter bags of weed while he worked at his pizza delivery job. Should we close down all the pizza joints now? STFU.

A large percentage of drug deals are done in convenience store parking lots. Quick! SHUT DOWN ALL STORES BUT THE INCONVENIENT ONES!

Bust the people that are doing the illegal things and leave the rest of people alone.

What a Republican dumbfark.
2013-03-13 10:10:39 PM
2 votes:

jaylectricity: rynthetyn: In Florida, "Internet Cafe" is really a euphemism for electronic gambling. I haven't seen one that wasn't 18+ with nothing but old people inside gambling.

Exactly...the state wants to control the numbers game.

At least Whitey Bulger was smart enough to get out of the numbers game when Massachusetts legalized the "state" lottery.


More like they're trying to cover their butts because it turns out the Lieutenant Governor was massively corrupt and probably going to get indicted for racketeering over the "internet cafe" stuff.
2013-03-14 02:29:22 AM
1 votes:
rynthetyn:


Let me also add that George and Jeb did the same thing that I'm talking about the RPOF doing with Carroll. They gave Ambassadorships and State posts to their donors and their donor's siblings/offspring. Hell, Iraq was full of halfwits that only got the job because they, or their parents, donated huge sums to GWB. Jeb also did the same thing with State Offices and huge State contracts while he was Governor of Florida. Knowing Carroll's involvement with AV/FOP, and their donations to the RPOF, it's not that much of a stretch to imagine a black woman getting a position that basically has no power within State Politics for how much money she can generate for the Republican Party. No stretch at all considering their attitude toward both those groups to begin with.
2013-03-14 02:15:10 AM
1 votes:

rynthetyn: That's why they picked her--so that they could try to pull off the voter suppression stuff, and all the other racist shiat that Rick Scott has done while maintaining a veneer of plausible deniability. She was there to provide cover for the racism.


If they were going to get the black vote, or even some of the black vote, I might be able to agree with you. There was zero benefit to putting her on the ticket that I can see. And they sure as hell don't care if people think, or know, they're racist. They never have and that's certainly not a problem since they control the entire State Legislature. In other words they're not worried about blowback because they run the whole State right now. There's nobody to stop them from doing what they want to do and having a black, or a woman, on the top ticket doesn't change that. There's was no way Sink was going to beat them anyway. And it wasn't going to suddenly make blacks vote Republican that's for sure(though maybe they'd get a bigger % of the female vote). If the Dems controlled even one chamber then Carroll could be used as an example of not being racist in an attempt to get some of the Dems on their side. They don't and probably won't for years to come. And they don't care what citizens think either or they wouldn't have been doing what they did last election, whether Carroll was there or not. It's counterproductive to "not" looking racist. If it was their intention to not look racist why ruin all that goodwill that Carroll brought them? It makes no sense(even though I can understand your "cover" argument). Still, there's no need for it since they control it all anyway and most likely will for the next few elections.
2013-03-14 01:53:51 AM
1 votes:

rynthetyn: Carroll seemed to be a squeaky clean


See, that's the thing, Greer gave that impression as well(unless you spent some time talking to him). For the RPOF it was all about how much money he could generate. They didn't care if he was dirty as long as he brought in big dollars from his corporate buddies. Those same buddies that he was taking 1/3 of every dollar from. Plus, he racked up huge credit card bills on the RPOF's card while they looked the other way. And make no mistake, Charlie Crist WAS involved, but the RPOF knew about it as well and sanctioned everything Greer and Johnson did. And I'll admit, as an ex-Repub and Navy Veteran myself I've always thought well of Jennifer Carroll, but, knowing that she represented those that were indicted at her PR firm(which I didn't know until yesterday), and those people donated to the RPOF as well, her position in State politics now makes more sense to me. It's likely that she brought in huge amounts of money to the RPOF and her position was a way of making sure it kept coming in. Considering what State Republicans have pulled lately towards black people in this state, it sure wasn't to secure the black vote imo.
2013-03-14 01:41:26 AM
1 votes:

draa: rynthetyn: Rick Scott's corruption was an acceptable variety to the tea partiers since it was a businessman screwing over the government.

I will agree with you on that. But it's funny that there's not a single black Republican politican in the RPOF that has any power right now. Not one. There's a reason for Carroll being #2 and it's not because she was black or a woman. That's not how the Republicans do things. You would have to believe that they would go against their MO for the past 40 years for that to happen, and if there's one thing Republicans are, it's consistent. There's a reason that she was given that position and it had nothing to do with the RPOF trying to look less racist. If that was true, there wouldn't have been the voter suppression we saw the last election don't you think? Voter supperssion that targeted mainly black areas. Or less drug testing for Welfare checks even? Seems to contradict what you're saying doesn't it? Honestly I don't think they care about looking less racist or they wouldn't being doing that shiat right now.


That's why they picked her--so that they could try to pull off the voter suppression stuff, and all the other racist shiat that Rick Scott has done while maintaining a veneer of plausible deniability. She was there to provide cover for the racism.
2013-03-14 01:19:28 AM
1 votes:

draa: I think it has more to do with the #2 Republican in the State being implicated already since it seems as long as one of them isn't caught redhanded then everything's fine. Now that she's resigned the Republicans in this State are just trying to cover their asses imo. They're all corrupt bastards anyway so that's my guess.

It was reported last night on local news that Allied Veterans has donated money to the Republican Party of Florida and there's more political donation shenanigans to come. As was also reported this is just the first round of indictments and more are coming in the next few days/weeks. I have a feeling that the RPOF is neck deep in this scam since the FDLE began investagating this group in 2006 when our Lt Gov was still a member of the State Legislature and one of the top Republicans in office at the time. I also have a feeling that this scam is why she was tapped to be Scott's running mate. Let's not forget, she's black and a woman and Republicans hate both of those groups so there had to be some reason that the Republicans would pick her for the #2 spot in Florida Politics. Most likely it had to do with her access AV's/FOP's money since she was certain to be involved herself as evidenced by her resignation today. I wiould also point out there's a shait ton of scam money still unaccounted for and hopefully it brings the RPOF down as well. At least one can hope anyway.

I'd like to add that Jim Greer(past President of the RPOF) and Del Mar Johnson(his Cheif of Staff) were also indicted a few years ago for something very similar. They had set up a shell company that took 1/3 of the donations to the RPOF that they solicited and put it in their pockets for personnal gain. That was with the RPOF's consent as well. He also said that he had enough information to bring them all down and since the RPOF threw him under the bus when he was arrested I'm pretty sure he was doing a lot of talking. I wouldn't be suprised to find out that him(and Johnson) were the ...



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2013-03-14 01:10:09 AM
1 votes:

rynthetyn: I don't think they would have gone with her if they'd have known she was corrupt as fark,


Sure they would. They went with Greer for years. They knew he was corrupt and he was in charge of the entire Party.  In fact, the RPOF was involved with it themselves. The RPOF doesn't care until someone's caught. Greer admitted as much after he was indicted. And you honestly don't believe the RPOF would have said "yeah, were corrupt too" do you? Not a chance in hell and it was only logical that they would try to blame Charlie Crist. Or anyone else for that matter. Especially after Charlie fell out with them the way he did. And as far a Carroll goes, I'll bet you that they'll throw her under the bus just like they did Greer and Johnson. Hell, they're already doing it right now and every Republican in the State is trying to distance themselves from her stink.
2013-03-14 12:36:48 AM
1 votes:
The interwebs are also useful for people who don't have computers or connections. Poor and homeless people use internet cafes to stay in contact with relatives, social service providers, and doctors, to look for jobs and housing, to manage bank accounts, and to take online classes.
2013-03-14 12:24:33 AM
1 votes:

The Snow Dog: So they really want to shut down illegal gambling establishments--

I have no problem with that, but don't call them internet cafes. Sure maybe 95% of the places call themselves internet cafes to appear legitimate, BUT THEY'RE NOT INTERNET CAFES.

I used to know a guy who sold quarter bags of weed while he worked at his pizza delivery job. Should we close down all the pizza joints now? STFU.

A large percentage of drug deals are done in convenience store parking lots. Quick! SHUT DOWN ALL STORES BUT THE INCONVENIENT ONES!

Bust the people that are doing the illegal things and leave the rest of people alone.

What a Republican dumbfark.



I think it has more to do with the #2 Republican in the State being implicated already since it seems as long as one of them isn't caught redhanded then everything's fine. Now that she's resigned the Republicans in this State are just trying to cover their asses imo. They're all corrupt bastards anyway so that's my guess.

It was reported last night on local news that Allied Veterans has donated money to the Republican Party of Florida and there's more political donation shenanigans to come. As was also reported this is just the first round of indictments and more are coming in the next few days/weeks. I have a feeling that the RPOF is neck deep in this scam since the FDLE began investagating this group in 2006 when our Lt Gov was still a member of the State Legislature and one of the top Republicans in office at the time. I also have a feeling that this scam is why she was tapped to be Scott's running mate. Let's not forget, she's black and a woman and Republicans hate both of those groups so there had to be some reason that the Republicans would pick her for the #2 spot in Florida Politics. Most likely it had to do with her access AV's/FOP's money since she was certain to be involved herself as evidenced by her resignation today. I wiould also point out there's a shait ton of scam money still unaccounted for and hopefully it brings the RPOF down as well. At least one can hope anyway.

I'd like to add that Jim Greer(past President of the RPOF) and Del Mar Johnson(his Cheif of Staff) were also indicted a few years ago for something very similar. They had set up a shell company that took 1/3 of the donations to the RPOF that they solicited and put it in their pockets for personnal gain. That was with the RPOF's consent as well. He also said that he had enough information to bring them all down and since the RPOF threw him under the bus when he was arrested I'm pretty sure he was doing a lot of talking. I wouldn't be suprised to find out that him(and Johnson) were the catalyst for these indictments. I guess we'll see soon enough.
2013-03-14 12:10:12 AM
1 votes:
You know, it would be relatively easy to build a kind of Hadrian's Wall across the northern part of Florida.
2013-03-14 12:04:45 AM
1 votes:

rynthetyn: In Florida, "Internet Cafe" is really a euphemism for electronic gambling. I haven't seen one that wasn't 18+ with nothing but old people inside gambling.


Ah, so they're slot parlors. Why not just call them that?
2013-03-13 11:59:11 PM
1 votes:

Rreal: rynthetyn: In Florida, "Internet Cafe" is really a euphemism for electronic gambling. I haven't seen one that wasn't 18+ with nothing but old people inside gambling.

Right on the money.   I remember hearing about one of these 'cafes' showing up in my town and, thinking it was like the korean style Internet/PC Cafes, I went in..   and was told "You can pay a dollar a day for internet access.. or you can spend that credit playing our games.."


Just. Like Florida. Damn.
2013-03-13 11:41:12 PM
1 votes:
Seriously, can't they pass a law of something requiring some kind of test for sentience for elected officials? Some of these people are like something resurrected from a peat bog.
2013-03-13 11:31:48 PM
1 votes:

SirEattonHogg: Internet Cafe?  Hello 1999.

What time is "Friends" on?


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2013-03-13 11:28:46 PM
1 votes:
My wife and I went to one of these places about a year ago or so. They had free beer, wine and hot dogs and gave us twenty bucks to gamble with when we walked in the door. It was fun until our money ran out, then we left. I'd always been curious about those places since they started popping up all over the place a few years ago. Now I know. They're where old lonely people go to spend hours and hours gambling away their social security in order to try to win wal mart gift cards.
2013-03-13 11:26:06 PM
1 votes:
Yup. Big story developing. 57 arrest warrants, 54 search warrants.

From 2007 to early 2012, investigators found evidence of over $6 million in what appear to be charitable donations by Allied Veterans. That amount, however, was only about 2 percent of the over $290 million made from gambling operations during that time period. Instead of going to veterans, the vast majority of the money went to for-profit companies and the individuals who operated Allied Veterans and its so-called "affiliates."

Authorities said they seized about 300 bank accounts containing $64.7 million and assets including such exotic vehicles as Maseratis, Porsches and Ferraris.


Rest of the story here.
2013-03-13 11:25:57 PM
1 votes:

rynthetyn: In Florida, "Internet Cafe" is really a euphemism for electronic gambling. I haven't seen one that wasn't 18+ with nothing but old people inside gambling.


Right on the money.   I remember hearing about one of these 'cafes' showing up in my town and, thinking it was like the korean style Internet/PC Cafes, I went in..   and was told "You can pay a dollar a day for internet access.. or you can spend that credit playing our games.."
2013-03-13 11:23:40 PM
1 votes:
gambling, huh? yup. organized crime does not like competition.
2013-03-13 09:57:30 PM
1 votes:

rynthetyn: In Florida, "Internet Cafe" is really a euphemism for electronic gambling. I haven't seen one that wasn't 18+ with nothing but old people inside gambling.


Exactly...the state wants to control the numbers game.

At least Whitey Bulger was smart enough to get out of the numbers game when Massachusetts legalized the "state" lottery.
 
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