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2013-03-13 10:20:30 PM  

Giltric: No i do not support universal background checks in its current potential form because it is linked to mandatory registration. The Schumer UBC bill also makes it a felony for me to go on a business trip while leaving my firearms at home with my wife even if they are in a safe.


Holy cow, I didn't realize that.  That is crazy.
 
2013-03-13 10:20:31 PM  

Mrbogey: cameroncrazy1984: I have a question, Giltric:do you support universal background checks? Are you a member of the NRA? If so, why?

"Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the NRA?"



Yep...one of the stages of the 8 stages of genocide.

http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/8stagesofgenocide.html
 
2013-03-13 10:21:22 PM  

LoneWolf343: It wouldn't be happening if you let us do something about it,


YES IT WOULD.

Your "doing something" wouldn't stop the violence. You're focusing on the effects, not the cause. Come back with something that targets the source of the problem and is based on facts not emotions and smart people will agree with you.
 
2013-03-13 10:21:39 PM  

LoneWolf343: lostcat: Yogimus: so... 4 people is a mass shooting now?

Seriously...This is nothing for anyone to get bent out of shape about. Come on, it's just four people. People get shot every day. Why all this sensationalism?

Because people get shot every day. That shouldn't be happening. It wouldn't be happening if you let us do something about it, goddammit.


It shouldn't? What makes this particular cause of death any worse or better then any others? Death by auto accident has a far higher body count. Death by chainsaw more gory. Death by fall is far easier and no way to regulate it. What makes guns the crusade you are so willing to go on?
 
2013-03-13 10:21:52 PM  
old man they say opened fire at a car wash and a barbershop Wednesday morning, killing four people and wounding at least two.

Maybe the old line "Shave and a haircut, 2 bits" finally got to him.
 
2013-03-13 10:24:54 PM  

LoneWolf343: lostcat: Yogimus: so... 4 people is a mass shooting now?

Seriously...This is nothing for anyone to get bent out of shape about. Come on, it's just four people. People get shot every day. Why all this sensationalism?

Because people get shot every day. That shouldn't be happening. It wouldn't be happening if you let us do something about it, goddammit.


what exactly would you do to prevent people from killing each other?

make it illegal?
or how about a commandment or something like that?
 
2013-03-13 10:27:13 PM  

LoneWolf343: lostcat: Yogimus: so... 4 people is a mass shooting now?

Seriously...This is nothing for anyone to get bent out of shape about. Come on, it's just four people. People get shot every day. Why all this sensationalism?

Because people get shot every day. That shouldn't be happening. It wouldn't be happening if you let us do something about it, goddammit.


you do know that gun murders are at it's lowest point since 1981, right?  About half as many now as then.
 
2013-03-13 10:27:57 PM  

atomicmask: What makes guns the crusade you are so willing to go on?


Emotion. Guns are "scary"


The anti gun people are the ones who bring the 20 oz can of bear mace camping and three different battery powered LED headlamps in case you have to hike out at night, but forget to bring a sleeping bag and a backup lighter.
 
2013-03-13 10:28:23 PM  

Giltric: I really hope this well trained SWAT officer does not enocoonter the suspect and a gunfight ensues....his EOTech is mounted backwards.

You are not able to see the reticle looking through the EOTech from that direction...there is a 100% chance he has nver fired that rifle while looking through the scope....and if he hasn't fired that rifle with that scope on it it would not be zeroed and he has as much a chance as shooting some citizen crossing the street a half mile away as he does the suspect.


Remember....there are alot of people on this site who think that only people like that should own a rifle like an AR-15.
[statepolitics.lohudblogs.com image 300x225]


I thought you were kidding, but sure enough it's on backwards.  I think it's from the XPS line.

i184.photobucket.com

i184.photobucket.com

Picked them up here.
 
2013-03-13 10:29:19 PM  

jaytkay: TerminalEchoes: Take away the guns and we'll just start stabbing each other. Take away the knives and there'll be a run on baseball bats.

Exactly. Guns aren't more dangerous than any other object.

That's why the Marines gave up firearms years ago. They now carry golf clubs. It's saved the taxpayer millions.


That's ridiculous! No, after extensive study, they opted for bath tubs. Cars were a close second.
 
2013-03-13 10:30:34 PM  
jso2897:
True - but if you look at the statistics, you can see that America's love affair with the gun is waning. The percentage of Americans who own guns and households that have them is dwindling year by year.
Statistically, it's safer to live in this country than it has ever been. And I am not really that worried about people having guns, or even thinking that guns can protect their freedoms.
What worries me is that a lot of people assume that guns (which may confer some ability to resist physical force) CAN protect our freedoms in today's worlds. It makes the assumption that when and if our freedoms are taken, it will be by physical force.

The "dwindling households with guns" one always makes me chuckle a bit. Firearms sales are at all time highs (in MD, there were 50,000 background checks performed by the MSP the entirety of last year, there were more than that in the first two months of this year alone. Given that MD law says you can only buy so many "restricted" firearms in a given time period, those 50,000 firearms are more than likely going to nearly 50,000 people. And that's just for handguns and "assault weapons" not shotguns or non-baby-seeking evil black rifles.

Most gun owners are loath to divulge that they own guns to strangers who have either:
A) Mailed them a questionnaire and thus know their physical address.
or
B) Called them on the phone, again thus knowing their location and physical address thanks to whoever prints the phone books these days.
or
C) Physically showed up at their property to ask them in person.

If someone from Gallup were to come to my front door tomorrow and ask me if I owned firearms, my answer wouldn't be "Why yes, I do!" It'd be a blatant "Nope, never have, never will" lie. The Gov't has tried to put us on lists for years and years and years, and firearms owners have fought tooth and nail to prevent any kind of national registry because no good can come of it. Do you  really think we're going to tell someone who knows where we live that we have guns?

I'd be willing to bet that the real number is that over 50% of the nation's homes have firearms in them where not prohibited by law, and that the number would really be even higher than that if you included all the illegally owned firearms by gangbangers and ex felons who bought them off the street.

As for protecting our freedoms. Yes, a lot of people wind up in the doldrums of life, but not everyone. Just look at the thousands of people who showed up to protest MD's proposed bans. They took time off of work, time away from their families, etc to turn out on a work day to stand up for their freedoms. If it had been a non-work day, you'd have seen many times more.

I know it's anecdotal, but all of my gun-owning friends spend more time doing things with their families, getting out and about on the weekends, and enjoying their lives than most of my non-gun-owning friends.
 
2013-03-13 10:31:07 PM  
Has anyone responded to the point that NYC has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country, yet they failed to prevent this incident nonetheless?
 
2013-03-13 10:31:57 PM  

jso2897: So - keep your guns. They, and you, are no threat to me.


That's great, but could you write to Sen. Feinstein to let her know that? Thanks.

But as for your freedoms - you'd better guard them closely, and don't assume that when they are taken that it will be by some guy in jackboots kicking in your front door. As Yeats so depressingly pointed out, not all worlds end with bangs - sometimes, they end in whimpers.

I don't disagree that western civilization is going down the sh*tter in large part due to the stupefied apathy of the citizenry. Guns are for free men, but how free are we when we let State agencies dictate what kinds of lightbulbs we can use or what kinds of cheeses we can eat, when online companies are gathering our data freely and sharing it with the government, or when we censor ourselves from speaking plainly in everyday conversation because we are worried that someone might be offended and we might be reprimanded, fired or even prosecuted? How free are we when our traditional deference towards the police and the military has mutated into a cringing servility towards all forms of authority, no matter how they treat us? But no matter, there is always something on TV to watch and some food to stuff our faces with -- until one day there won't be, of course, and we'll wonder what the hell happened while we were choosing not to notice.
 
2013-03-13 10:32:29 PM  

FilmBELOH20: Peki: atomicmask: Or maybe the fact that they are at odds with nature itself makes them more depressed,

Going against a gay person's nature to act straight? That would surely cause depression.

Depression because being gay is against nature? (when there are over 14,000 species that have documented occurrences of homosexual encounters, and only one that practices homophobia?) Nope.

I'm bi. The only time I have ever been "depressed" was a) when I couldn't figure wtf I was because the only words batted around at the time were gay and straight, and I knew I wasn't either, and b) whenever I've had discrimination because of who I am (not just because I'm bi, but because of other things about me too).

If you're straight, try practicing a homosexual lifestyle. You'll find out just how much against our nature it is for us to "just act straight." Now, go sit in the corner until you can learn to behave like a decent human being.

Um, 14,000?  Or is it more like 1500 have been observed and it's been well documented for 500?


Bah! I remember the comma in the wrong place (I'm not perfect, and I've already made one error on this thread, so I guess a trifecta's in play).

atomicmask: If you are somehow wired to not breed, it can be classified as a defect, and should be.


So what? Just because someone's not wired like 90% of the rest of population they should be treated as defective? So, people who are left-handed are defective? People who are asexual are "defective"? People who are black/white/red/yellow are now defective because their skin tone doesn't match the majority of the people around them? How about, it's not a defect, just another variation of HUMAN that you haven't accounted for.

The idea that there are ONLY two sexes / ONLY two genders flies in the face of even human history, let alone evolutionary. Being LGBT is NOT a defect; the defect is in those who think it's a justification to discriminate.

And what dafuq are you doing making this an LGBT issue on a gun-control issue??? (and yes, bad on me for rising to it, but ffs) Are you about to suggest that gay people shouldn't own guns because they're defective?
 
2013-03-13 10:32:38 PM  

jso2897: What worries me is that a lot of people assume that guns (which may confer some ability to resist physical force) CAN protect our freedoms in today's worlds. It makes the assumption that when and if our freedoms are taken, it will be by physical force.
I have a mental image of a person, and I have no doubt that he exists. He sits in his house, secure with his closet full of guns. His television is tuned to American Idol. He sits there, soaking up whatever the people with real power want to feed him, while blunting his mind with Bud Light and prescription drugs. Tomorrow, he will rise and go to the soul-killing job he hates, while the AM radio shock jock bludgeons his mind with yet more nonsense. He grinds his way through his empty day, killing his own soul while he enriches his masters.
And then, he goes home and repeats the cycle. Day after day, month after month, year after year. Every so often, he goes to the polls and elects some empty suit that the same TV that rots his mind daily tells him to.
And someday, inevitably, without anyone ever forcibly "taking" it - all his freedom, manhood, and reason for living is gone - and his guns still sit moldering in the closet, unused, because there was never anybody to use them on.
Smart crooks don't do violent crime - they become con artists. Why would anybody use force to take from his victim what that victim can be tricked into relinquishing without a fight? And tyrants are just another type of criminal - the smart ones don't use force, and no gun will ever stop them.
So - keep your guns. They, and you, are no threat to me. But as for your freedoms - you'd better guard them closely, and don't assume that when they are taken that it will be by some guy in jackboots kicking in your front door. As Yeats so depressingly pointed out, not all worlds end with bangs - sometimes, they end in whimpers.


Worthy of repeating.
 
2013-03-13 10:32:47 PM  

LoneWolf343: lostcat: Yogimus: so... 4 people is a mass shooting now?

Seriously...This is nothing for anyone to get bent out of shape about. Come on, it's just four people. People get shot every day. Why all this sensationalism?

Because people get shot every day. That shouldn't be happening. It wouldn't be happening if you let us do something about it, goddammit.


SARCASM

Try reading it again as if I were someone who thinks tjat guns in the hands over anyone who can afford them is not a brilliant idea.
 
2013-03-13 10:34:24 PM  

GoldSpider: Has anyone responded to the point that NYC has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country, yet they failed to prevent this incident nonetheless?


Because it didn't happen in NYC?
 
2013-03-13 10:34:49 PM  

js34603: tallen702: It's not like the counter was set high anyway. 2 days isn't a long time.... Oh wait... you didn't realize that 11 were shot in inner-city and predominately black DC two days ago? Link

America doesn't have a gun problem. America has a problem with white folk getting shot.

Obviously Americans don't care about that shooting. If they did it would have been covered in a national newspaper that reported daily events.

/they'd probably call it The U.S. Today or something like that


USA Today isn't broadcasted nationally. Did Fox News have a "Breaking News" alert with that unique ping sound they use? (Maybe, during the report as the reporter is talking the lower thirds has the caption saying, "DRIVE BY SHOOTING IN WASHINGTON DC AT NEW YORK AVENUE, EVERYBODY BETTER FARKING DUCK!")
 
2013-03-13 10:36:03 PM  

atomicmask: LoneWolf343: lostcat: Yogimus: so... 4 people is a mass shooting now?

Seriously...This is nothing for anyone to get bent out of shape about. Come on, it's just four people. People get shot every day. Why all this sensationalism?

Because people get shot every day. That shouldn't be happening. It wouldn't be happening if you let us do something about it, goddammit.

It shouldn't? What makes this particular cause of death any worse or better then any others? Death by auto accident has a far higher body count. Death by chainsaw more gory. Death by fall is far easier and no way to regulate it. What makes guns the crusade you are so willing to go on?


What's the ratio of homicide by vehicle to accidental deaths in vehicle accidents?  What's the ratio for gun deaths, accidental vs intentional?

If you're going to use that ridiculous argument, at least make the comparison relevant.  Compare the rate of people killed intentionally by cars and killed intentionally by guns and see if your brilliant idea holds up.
 
2013-03-13 10:36:04 PM  

Mazzic518: Because it didn't happen in NYC?


Heh, aw fack.  Still, New York state isn't a slouch on gun laws either.
 
2013-03-13 10:37:05 PM  
Unarmed customers at the Ft. Pitt Inn overcome armed looney. Wonder why the NRA isn't crowing about this incident.

Just outside Imperial Pennsylvania.
 
2013-03-13 10:37:10 PM  

Mazzic518: DaFuq do game wardens need AR-15's for?


[www.fbastard.com image 628x457]


To kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible.
 
2013-03-13 10:37:43 PM  

TerminalEchoes: Agreed. The problem isn't guns but rather a lack of general civility between Americans. Take away the guns and we'll just start stabbing each other. Take away the knives and there'll be a run on baseball bats.


You just can't make this stuff up

Man kills his wife using a vacuum cleaner.
 
2013-03-13 10:37:45 PM  
tallen702:

know it's anecdotal, but all of my gun-owning friends spend more time doing things with their families, getting out and about on the weekends, and enjoying their lives than most of my non-gun-owning friends.

It's not so much that it's anecdotal is it's not causal. The fact that your gun-owning friends spend more time with their family and outdoors is not directly attributable to their gun ownership.
 
2013-03-13 10:38:25 PM  
if it ends up that this dude had an AyHurr-Furfteen type weapon, I am NEVER going to let you tards live it down. It's gonna be great.
 
2013-03-13 10:38:38 PM  

GoldSpider: Mazzic518: Because it didn't happen in NYC?

Heh, aw fack.  Still, New York state isn't a slouch on gun laws either.


We do not have to turn in our high cap mags yet :)
 
2013-03-13 10:39:19 PM  

Mrbogey: Mazzic518: DaFuq do game wardens need AR-15's for?


[www.fbastard.com image 628x457]

To kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible.


If i was ENCON i'd want something with more stopping power than a .223
 
2013-03-13 10:39:22 PM  

lostcat: tallen702:

know it's anecdotal, but all of my gun-owning friends spend more time doing things with their families, getting out and about on the weekends, and enjoying their lives than most of my non-gun-owning friends.

It's not so much that it's anecdotal is it's not causal. The fact that your gun-owning friends spend more time with their family and outdoors is not directly attributable to their gun ownership.


how do you know that?
 
2013-03-13 10:39:28 PM  

willfullyobscure: if it ends up that this dude had an AyHurr-Furfteen type weapon, I am NEVER going to let you tards live it down. It's gonna be great.


What happens if it was a glock?
 
2013-03-13 10:39:54 PM  

Molavian: Giltric: I really hope this well trained SWAT officer does not enocoonter the suspect and a gunfight ensues....his EOTech is mounted backwards.

You are not able to see the reticle looking through the EOTech from that direction...there is a 100% chance he has nver fired that rifle while looking through the scope....and if he hasn't fired that rifle with that scope on it it would not be zeroed and he has as much a chance as shooting some citizen crossing the street a half mile away as he does the suspect.


Remember....there are alot of people on this site who think that only people like that should own a rifle like an AR-15.
[statepolitics.lohudblogs.com image 300x225]

I thought you were kidding, but sure enough it's on backwards.  I think it's from the XPS line.

[i184.photobucket.com image 640x480]

[i184.photobucket.com image 640x480]

Picked them up here.


Maybe wrong rear sight too. He shouldn't have a gun.
 
2013-03-13 10:40:01 PM  

GoldSpider: willfullyobscure: if it ends up that this dude had an AyHurr-Furfteen type weapon, I am NEVER going to let you tards live it down. It's gonna be great.

What happens if it was a glock?


We are going to sue Australia
 
2013-03-13 10:40:14 PM  
 

WhoopAssWayne: Look on the bright side. Obama might have some more dead kids to exploit and use as props in the next state of the union, being the classy guy that he is, right democrats? This tragedy would just be another great win for you, you scumbag pieces of sh*t.


Ah. "Wayne". The most popular serial killer name. Hey Chief! When you go, can you just start with yourself? Kthxby.
 
2013-03-13 10:41:06 PM  

Mazzic518: GoldSpider: Has anyone responded to the point that NYC has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country, yet they failed to prevent this incident nonetheless?

Because it didn't happen in NYC?


Too bad NY state has the most restrictive firearm laws in the nation.
 
2013-03-13 10:42:16 PM  

Mazzic518: We do not have to turn in our high cap mags yet :)


On a completely unrelated note, is it just me, or does Andrew Cuomo look and sound more "connected" than a Scranton trash kingpin?
 
2013-03-13 10:43:00 PM  

boxster: atomicmask: LoneWolf343: lostcat: Yogimus: so... 4 people is a mass shooting now?

Seriously...This is nothing for anyone to get bent out of shape about. Come on, it's just four people. People get shot every day. Why all this sensationalism?

Because people get shot every day. That shouldn't be happening. It wouldn't be happening if you let us do something about it, goddammit.

It shouldn't? What makes this particular cause of death any worse or better then any others? Death by auto accident has a far higher body count. Death by chainsaw more gory. Death by fall is far easier and no way to regulate it. What makes guns the crusade you are so willing to go on?

What's the ratio of homicide by vehicle to accidental deaths in vehicle accidents?  What's the ratio for gun deaths, accidental vs intentional?

If you're going to use that ridiculous argument, at least make the comparison relevant.  Compare the rate of people killed intentionally by cars and killed intentionally by guns and see if your brilliant idea holds up.


So you don't care about all the children killed in car accidents? Or do you just ignore them because you can't use their dead bodies as a platform against gun ownership?
 
2013-03-13 10:43:07 PM  

jso2897: As Yeats so depressingly pointed out, not all worlds end with bangs - sometimes, they end in whimpers.


Just FYI it was T.S. Eliot who said that. Yeats was the one who is frequently quoted for his famous phrase "the best lack all conviction / while the worst are full of a passionate intensity". The best of the Modernist poets had a hell of a lot to teach us about ourselves as we journey through our limited lives; for anyone who wants to get into poetry but doesn't know where to begin, I'd recommend an anthology of Eliot's and Yeats's complete works to get you started -- you won't regret it.
 
2013-03-13 10:43:51 PM  

tallen702: I know it's anecdotal,

but all of my gun-owning friends spend more time doing things with their families, getting out and about on the weekends, and enjoying their lives than most of my non-gun-owning friends.

Not anecdotal: Men who murder their families and then kill themselves after a barricade situation are nearly 100% gun owners.
 
2013-03-13 10:45:07 PM  

GUTSU: So you don't care about all the children killed in car accidents? Or do you just ignore them because you can't use their dead bodies as a platform against gun ownership?


How many were killed intentionally?  I'm sure you have stats since you think the comparison is apt.
 
2013-03-13 10:45:33 PM  

BGates: Mazzic518: GoldSpider: Has anyone responded to the point that NYC has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country, yet they failed to prevent this incident nonetheless?

Because it didn't happen in NYC?

Too bad NY state has the most restrictive firearm laws in the nation.


I live in NY and I know many many gun owners.... point?
 
2013-03-13 10:45:42 PM  
Spree shooting NOT a mass shooting. Clock continues!
/Play Ball!
//Doinrite?
 
2013-03-13 10:46:26 PM  

EvilRacistNaziFascist: jso2897: So - keep your guns. They, and you, are no threat to me.

That's great, but could you write to Sen. Feinstein to let her know that? Thanks.

But as for your freedoms - you'd better guard them closely, and don't assume that when they are taken that it will be by some guy in jackboots kicking in your front door. As Yeats so depressingly pointed out, not all worlds end with bangs - sometimes, they end in whimpers.

I don't disagree that western civilization is going down the sh*tter in large part due to the stupefied apathy of the citizenry. Guns are for free men, but how free are we when we let State agencies dictate what kinds of lightbulbs we can use or what kinds of cheeses we can eat, when online companies are gathering our data freely and sharing it with the government, or when we censor ourselves from speaking plainly in everyday conversation because we are worried that someone might be offended and we might be reprimanded, fired or even prosecuted? How free are we when our traditional deference towards the police and the military has mutated into a cringing servility towards all forms of authority, no matter how they treat us? But no matter, there is always something on TV to watch and some food to stuff our faces with -- until one day there won't be, of course, and we'll wonder what the hell happened while we were choosing not to notice.


First they came for the cheese. But I was not a cheese..
 
2013-03-13 10:46:40 PM  

willfullyobscure: if it ends up that this dude had an AyHurr-Furfteen type weapon, I am NEVER going to let you tards live it down. It's gonna be great.


And if he used a shotgun?
 
2013-03-13 10:46:49 PM  

GoldSpider: Mazzic518: We do not have to turn in our high cap mags yet :)

On a completely unrelated note, is it just me, or does Andrew Cuomo look and sound more "connected" than a Scranton trash kingpin?


Takes after his father Mario
 
2013-03-13 10:47:53 PM  

boxster: GUTSU: So you don't care about all the children killed in car accidents? Or do you just ignore them because you can't use their dead bodies as a platform against gun ownership?

How many were killed intentionally?  I'm sure you have stats since you think the comparison is apt.


What's the percentage of gun owners that are also mass murders?
 
2013-03-13 10:47:54 PM  

Molavian: Giltric: I really hope this well trained SWAT officer does not enocoonter the suspect and a gunfight ensues....his EOTech is mounted backwards.

You are not able to see the reticle looking through the EOTech from that direction...there is a 100% chance he has nver fired that rifle while looking through the scope....and if he hasn't fired that rifle with that scope on it it would not be zeroed and he has as much a chance as shooting some citizen crossing the street a half mile away as he does the suspect.


Remember....there are alot of people on this site who think that only people like that should own a rifle like an AR-15.
[statepolitics.lohudblogs.com image 300x225]

I thought you were kidding, but sure enough it's on backwards.  I think it's from the XPS line.

[i184.photobucket.com image 640x480]

[i184.photobucket.com image 640x480]

Picked them up here.


I didn't know LE agencies in NYS used Hollywood armorers and prop-masters to outfit their weapons.

/"I'm the only one professional enough.... yada yada yada."
 
2013-03-13 10:47:58 PM  

Evil High Priest: EvilRacistNaziFascist: jso2897: So - keep your guns. They, and you, are no threat to me.

That's great, but could you write to Sen. Feinstein to let her know that? Thanks.

But as for your freedoms - you'd better guard them closely, and don't assume that when they are taken that it will be by some guy in jackboots kicking in your front door. As Yeats so depressingly pointed out, not all worlds end with bangs - sometimes, they end in whimpers.

I don't disagree that western civilization is going down the sh*tter in large part due to the stupefied apathy of the citizenry. Guns are for free men, but how free are we when we let State agencies dictate what kinds of lightbulbs we can use or what kinds of cheeses we can eat, when online companies are gathering our data freely and sharing it with the government, or when we censor ourselves from speaking plainly in everyday conversation because we are worried that someone might be offended and we might be reprimanded, fired or even prosecuted? How free are we when our traditional deference towards the police and the military has mutated into a cringing servility towards all forms of authority, no matter how they treat us? But no matter, there is always something on TV to watch and some food to stuff our faces with -- until one day there won't be, of course, and we'll wonder what the hell happened while we were choosing not to notice.

First they came for the cheese. But I was not a cheese..


How much cheese, in pounds, did they come for?
 
2013-03-13 10:48:15 PM  

willfullyobscure: if it ends up that this dude had an AyHurr-Furfteen type weapon, I am NEVER going to let you tards live it down. It's gonna be great.


I don't understand. What possible difference would it make what firearm a particular murderer used? Every gun on the planet can be used to kill someone; nobody has ever claimed otherwise. The AR-15 is simply one weapon that has been stigmatized by emotional incontinents due to the fact that it looks scary, even though it is very far from being the most powerful legal firearm available.
 
2013-03-13 10:51:44 PM  

EvilRacistNaziFascist: The AR-15 is simply one weapon that has been stigmatized by emotional incontinents due to the fact that it looks scary, even though it is very far from being the most powerful legal firearm available.


Imagine what they would say if they knew most deer rifles can penetrate armor.
 
2013-03-13 10:52:37 PM  

GoldSpider: EvilRacistNaziFascist: The AR-15 is simply one weapon that has been stigmatized by emotional incontinents due to the fact that it looks scary, even though it is very far from being the most powerful legal firearm available.

Imagine what they would say if they knew most deer rifles can penetrate armor.


Shhhh, don't tell that that, are you daft! You never give them ideas!
 
2013-03-13 10:53:25 PM  

dr_blasto: Evil High Priest: EvilRacistNaziFascist: jso2897: So - keep your guns. They, and you, are no threat to me.

That's great, but could you write to Sen. Feinstein to let her know that? Thanks.

But as for your freedoms - you'd better guard them closely, and don't assume that when they are taken that it will be by some guy in jackboots kicking in your front door. As Yeats so depressingly pointed out, not all worlds end with bangs - sometimes, they end in whimpers.

I don't disagree that western civilization is going down the sh*tter in large part due to the stupefied apathy of the citizenry. Guns are for free men, but how free are we when we let State agencies dictate what kinds of lightbulbs we can use or what kinds of cheeses we can eat, when online companies are gathering our data freely and sharing it with the government, or when we censor ourselves from speaking plainly in everyday conversation because we are worried that someone might be offended and we might be reprimanded, fired or even prosecuted? How free are we when our traditional deference towards the police and the military has mutated into a cringing servility towards all forms of authority, no matter how they treat us? But no matter, there is always something on TV to watch and some food to stuff our faces with -- until one day there won't be, of course, and we'll wonder what the hell happened while we were choosing not to notice.

First they came for the cheese. But I was not a cheese..

How much cheese, in pounds, did they come for?


Ten pounds?
 
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