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2013-03-13 08:57:12 PM
Repeat?

Oh.  Right.
 
2013-03-13 08:57:14 PM
I call BS. New York State has the strictest gun laws in the state.

Maybe they need to reduce the magazine size limit even further.
 
2013-03-13 08:57:48 PM
Look on the bright side. Obama might have some more dead kids to exploit and use as props in the next state of the union, being the classy guy that he is, right democrats? This tragedy would just be another great win for you, you scumbag pieces of sh*t.
 
2013-03-13 08:58:16 PM
It's a 3.5 hr drive from NYC. It's 4 people (dunno that I would call it Mass Shootings).  Media focuses on this because... it's a slow news day and the current federal administration is trying to pound a way to get rid of guns...

Why was this even a story? If the dude killed vestial virgins, then it would a story.
 
2013-03-13 08:59:10 PM
Ill just leave this here:

"These swine had no chance against us. It is appalling that they even resisted." He did not say what was
actually on his mind. A ragged band of Jews with a few guns and no military training whatsoever had
managed to hold off the best efforts of the German Army. This fact went counter to everything the General
had ever known about Jews. He briefly wondered how they had accomplished this feat and who had been
leading them, then pushed the disturbing thoughts out of his mind and returned to more immediate tasks.
The general's unease was well-founded, and the Warsaw ghetto resistance would be a valuable history
lesson for anyone who studied it. With less than twenty weapons, a starving band of resisters had held off
the German Army for twenty-seven days and nights before being defeated.
When the German Army had conquered the entire country of Poland in 1939, it had taken them sixteen
days."

-Unintended Consequences
 
2013-03-13 08:59:31 PM

TerminalEchoes: Did the gunman use a Glock AK-15 assault missle with high capacity clip?


He exercised his second amendment right to be an asshole.
 
2013-03-13 09:02:07 PM

tallen702: It's not like the counter was set high anyway. 2 days isn't a long time.... Oh wait... you didn't realize that 11 were shot in inner-city and predominately black DC two days ago? Link

America doesn't have a gun problem. America has a problem with white folk getting shot.


Come down to the rez. We'll protect you, you miserable piece of filth.
 
2013-03-13 09:04:10 PM

SirEattonHogg: I call BS. New York State has the strictest gun laws in the state.

Maybe they need to reduce the magazine size limit even further.


In the state, hmm?
 
2013-03-13 09:05:56 PM

boxster: SirEattonHogg: I call BS. New York State has the strictest gun laws in the state.

Maybe they need to reduce the magazine size limit even further.

In the state, hmm?


in the state
 
2013-03-13 09:06:17 PM
Ah, just another brave sacrifice on the alter of Liberty, eh gun owners?
 
2013-03-13 09:06:34 PM
Four people counts as a mass shooting these days? Talk about lowering the bar. Whatever you can attention whore to further your agenda, I guess.
 
2013-03-13 09:07:47 PM

lordargent: [ww4.hdnux.com image 628x407]

Haters gonna hate.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-13 09:08:10 PM

Old enough to know better: Ah, just another brave sacrifice on the alter of Liberty, eh gun owners?


Damn skippy, you lily livered pansy. Go cry me a river.
 
2013-03-13 09:08:33 PM
Todd300: "-Unintended Consequences "

Not sure what that little bit from the book has to do with this shooting.

/has a copy
//read multiple times
 
2013-03-13 09:08:36 PM

Todd300: Ill just leave this here:

"These swine had no chance against us. It is appalling that they even resisted." He did not say what was
actually on his mind. A ragged band of Jews with a few guns and no military training whatsoever had
managed to hold off the best efforts of the German Army. This fact went counter to everything the General
had ever known about Jews. He briefly wondered how they had accomplished this feat and who had been
leading them, then pushed the disturbing thoughts out of his mind and returned to more immediate tasks.
The general's unease was well-founded, and the Warsaw ghetto resistance would be a valuable history
lesson for anyone who studied it. With less than twenty weapons, a starving band of resisters had held off
the German Army for twenty-seven days and nights before being defeated.
When the German Army had conquered the entire country of Poland in 1939, it had taken them sixteen
days."

-Unintended Consequences


For God's sake, why?
 
2013-03-13 09:08:46 PM
Hey, who's got a factory in the next town over (Ilian)? Remington Arms.
 
2013-03-13 09:08:56 PM
Bbbbut New York is a gun-free zone. Nanny Bloomberg PROMISED!
 
2013-03-13 09:08:57 PM

BGates: You mean all those draconian gun control laws didn't work?


Dear BGates, The right to bear arms is draconian, agreed. Sincerely, the rest of the unarmed world.
 
2013-03-13 09:09:03 PM

Yogimus: so... 4 people is a mass shooting now?


according to this criteria. yes
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map

The shooter took the lives of at least four people. An FBI crime classification report identifies an individual as a mass murderer-versus a spree killer or a serial killer-if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location.
The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, both of which involved two shooters.)
The shootings occured in a public place. (Except in the case of a party in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included.
 
2013-03-13 09:09:36 PM

vudukungfu: This is pretty farked up.

/Can't wait for summer when it heats up out there.


farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2013-03-13 09:09:51 PM

Old enough to know better: Ah, just another brave sacrifice on the alter of Liberty, eh gun owners?


Another dumbass expecting the state to protect him. I'm sure the officer will be very sympathetic in his report if something bad happens to you.
 
2013-03-13 09:10:15 PM

firefly212: MNguy: firefly212: Yogimus: so... 4 people is a mass shooting now?

He shot at least 12 people, does it not count as a mass shooting if only four die?

You have to draw the line somewhere.  I propose 10 dead and at least 25 wounded for qualification.

Jared Lee Loughner would be heartbroken.


Welp.  Sorry Jared.  Not every ball player can make it to the Hall of Fame.
 
2013-03-13 09:10:33 PM

libranoelrose: lordargent: [ww4.hdnux.com image 628x407]

Haters gonna hate.

[i.imgur.com image 628x407]


My God... it's full of win.
 
2013-03-13 09:10:50 PM
Peki:

Yup. These are the lessons we get to learn from the "FU got mine" generation (for clarity, I'm referring to Boomers). Young adults, especially males, who are looking into their future and not very optimistic, tend to make the future not so optimistic for everyone else.


My wife, who is this soft-spoken, touchy-feely Japanese national, walked in the door a few weeks ago and said to me, "You know, I understand now why some people in America go crazy and start shooting everyone. There's no way to talk to anyone in power anymore. You can't argue with them. You can't explain your situation to them."

She had just gotten a parking ticket on a meter that had expired less than three minutes before she got back to the car. She got there as the officer was writing the ticket, and was pleading with her not to give her the ticket, but she said the woman just ignored her. She has this complaint about bus drivers who won't answer questions about the route. She has this complaint about government officials who make the process of renewing her visa a massive headache.

At first I was like, "Well, you should make sure to get back to your car with plenty of time before the meter expires." But then I thought about it for a bit.

She's mostly right. As Americans we have all this freedom, but the minute you try to talk to anyone who isn't employed in the private sector, you just get stonewalled, or worse. I've somehow internalized all of the frustration I've felt at the post office, DMV, traffic stops, public transportation, and any other run-ins with "officials" and those employed by public agencies.

My wife lived in Vietnam for a number of years while doing business there. You can basically talk to any official and explain the circumstances of your situation, and they will at least listen to you, more often taking your circumstances into account. I've seen the same in Laos and Cambodia. Ironically, these are "non-free" countries.

I think she has a point. There's a desperation in this country that comes from living in a democratic system, but one in which individual voices are squelched and ignored, and everyone's circumstances have to be pushed into a cookie cutter so that they can be processed as efficiently as possible.

Too much words. Sorry.
 
2013-03-13 09:11:06 PM
This is more like a spree killing.
 
2013-03-13 09:11:11 PM
I really hope this well trained SWAT officer does not enocoonter the suspect and a gunfight ensues....his EOTech is mounted backwards.

You are not able to see the reticle looking through the EOTech from that direction...there is a 100% chance he has nver fired that rifle while looking through the scope....and if he hasn't fired that rifle with that scope on it it would not be zeroed and he has as much a chance as shooting some citizen crossing the street a half mile away as he does the suspect.


Remember....there are alot of people on this site who think that only people like that should own a rifle like an AR-15.
statepolitics.lohudblogs.com
 
2013-03-13 09:11:24 PM

uttertosh: BGates: You mean all those draconian gun control laws didn't work?

Dear BGates, The right to bear arms is draconian, agreed. Sincerely, the rest of the unarmed world.


OH! Sorry... That's the joke dot jay peg, ahm ah rite?
 
2013-03-13 09:12:42 PM

Yogimus: so... 4 people is a mass shooting now?


I was wondering the same thing.

4, really?
 
2013-03-13 09:13:51 PM

Phony_Soldier: Yogimus: so... 4 people is a mass shooting now?

I was wondering the same thing.

4, really?


What's the official tally of dead and wounded that you need?
 
2013-03-13 09:14:01 PM
Jeez, it would seem like the cops could just use one of these

i641.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-13 09:14:14 PM
media.merchantcircle.com
 
2013-03-13 09:15:06 PM

LesserEvil: Where have I seen this guy? Hmmmm.... I know!



(yes, welcome to fark and all that)


No militarization of the police there, no siree
 
2013-03-13 09:15:11 PM

WhoopAssWayne: Old enough to know better: Ah, just another brave sacrifice on the alter of Liberty, eh gun owners?

Another dumbass expecting the state to protect him. I'm sure the officer will be very sympathetic in his report if something bad happens to you.


So you're in favor of disbanding the U.S.'s standing military.

Good to know you are ready to repel the coming invasion by those bloody Welsh!
 
2013-03-13 09:16:08 PM
Oh America... You silly farkers...
 
2013-03-13 09:17:25 PM

Giltric: I really hope this well trained SWAT officer does not enocoonter the suspect and a gunfight ensues....his EOTech is mounted backwards.

You are not able to see the reticle looking through the EOTech from that direction...there is a 100% chance he has nver fired that rifle while looking through the scope....and if he hasn't fired that rifle with that scope on it it would not be zeroed and he has as much a chance as shooting some citizen crossing the street a half mile away as he does the suspect.


Remember....there are alot of people on this site who think that only people like that should own a rifle like an AR-15.
[statepolitics.lohudblogs.com image 300x225]


Yea, but he looks cool and in control, don't he?
 
2013-03-13 09:18:23 PM

hardinparamedic: To avoid turning this into a debate in my head, my thoughts go out to the family and people involved in this shooting.


ftfy
 
2013-03-13 09:18:23 PM

TerminalEchoes: firefly212: lostcat: Yogimus: so... 4 people is a mass shooting now?

Seriously...This is nothing for anyone to get bent out of shape about. Come on, it's just four people. People get shot every day. Why all this sensationalism?

How is it not a problem because people get shot every day?

I mean, that seems really farked up that because we lose almost 20k people to gun violence (excluding suicde) every year that it somehow simply doesn't matter that 4 people are dead, six are in critical condition, and several others got transported with non-life threatening injuries. 4, 40, whatever... we're slowly flushing our future away with mindless violence.

Agreed. The problem isn't guns but rather a lack of general civility between Americans. Take away the guns and we'll just start stabbing each other. Take away the knives and there'll be a run on baseball bats.


That reminds me, I need to pick up a baseball bat.

/for the zombies, duh.
//no ammo
 
2013-03-13 09:18:53 PM

Giltric: I really hope this well trained SWAT officer does not enocoonter the suspect and a gunfight ensues....his EOTech is mounted backwards.

You are not able to see the reticle looking through the EOTech from that direction...there is a 100% chance he has nver fired that rifle while looking through the scope....and if he hasn't fired that rifle with that scope on it it would not be zeroed and he has as much a chance as shooting some citizen crossing the street a half mile away as he does the suspect.


Remember....there are alot of people on this site who think that only people like that should own a rifle like an AR-15.
[statepolitics.lohudblogs.com image 300x225]



Its a style choice, like mounting iron sights backwards...

i209.photobucket.com

/facepalm
 
2013-03-13 09:19:09 PM

Mrbogey: Giltric: I really hope this well trained SWAT officer does not enocoonter the suspect and a gunfight ensues....his EOTech is mounted backwards.

You are not able to see the reticle looking through the EOTech from that direction...there is a 100% chance he has nver fired that rifle while looking through the scope....and if he hasn't fired that rifle with that scope on it it would not be zeroed and he has as much a chance as shooting some citizen crossing the street a half mile away as he does the suspect.


Remember....there are alot of people on this site who think that only people like that should own a rifle like an AR-15.
[statepolitics.lohudblogs.com image 300x225]

Yea, but he looks cool and in control, don't he?


Like the farking Duke of New York. A-number-1
 
2013-03-13 09:20:09 PM

Giltric: Remember....there are alot of people on this site who think that only people like that should own a rifle like an AR-15.


Agents of the State are beyond criticism or reproach, teatard -- they are simply better than we are, that's why they can be trusted with AR-15s and we can't. I for one am grateful that our superiors have our best interests at heart.
 
2013-03-13 09:20:27 PM
God bless these people and their friends and families who sacrificed so much for the Second Amendment.
 
2013-03-13 09:21:11 PM

Sweaty Dynamite: Jeez, it would seem like the cops could just use one of these

[i641.photobucket.com image 400x266]


Thank you for this. It means that I didn't have to go look for my own pic of it.
 
2013-03-13 09:21:58 PM
And we all know who the real winnersi.imgur.com are in any gun thread, don't we??
 
2013-03-13 09:22:14 PM

lostcat: Peki:

Yup. These are the lessons we get to learn from the "FU got mine" generation (for clarity, I'm referring to Boomers). Young adults, especially males, who are looking into their future and not very optimistic, tend to make the future not so optimistic for everyone else.


My wife, who is this soft-spoken, touchy-feely Japanese national, walked in the door a few weeks ago and said to me, "You know, I understand now why some people in America go crazy and start shooting everyone. There's no way to talk to anyone in power anymore. You can't argue with them. You can't explain your situation to them."

She had just gotten a parking ticket on a meter that had expired less than three minutes before she got back to the car. She got there as the officer was writing the ticket, and was pleading with her not to give her the ticket, but she said the woman just ignored her. She has this complaint about bus drivers who won't answer questions about the route. She has this complaint about government officials who make the process of renewing her visa a massive headache.

At first I was like, "Well, you should make sure to get back to your car with plenty of time before the meter expires." But then I thought about it for a bit.

She's mostly right. As Americans we have all this freedom, but the minute you try to talk to anyone who isn't employed in the private sector, you just get stonewalled, or worse. I've somehow internalized all of the frustration I've felt at the post office, DMV, traffic stops, public transportation, and any other run-ins with "officials" and those employed by public agencies.

My wife lived in Vietnam for a number of years while doing business there. You can basically talk to any official and explain the circumstances of your situation, and they will at least listen to you, more often taking your circumstances into account. I've seen the same in Laos and Cambodia. Ironically, these are "non-free" countries.

I think she has a point. There's a desperatio ...


Nope, wasn't too long. My fiancé just paid a parking ticket that said "expired meter" in an area that has no meter because he knew it would pointless to fight it. Also, how can he fight it when he's working 60-70 hours week between school and his career? (He's a musician, so it's not like these are normal business hours either) I can't work because of mental health issues (PTSD + two sleep disorders), but trying to access any kind of social services is a nightmare because they want three letters from my employer stating how much I earned, when I worked, and when I quit. I worked for Bank of America through a temp agency: temp agency says I have to go to BofA, BofA says I have to go to the temp agency, and of course no one at the social services offices gives a damn about the argument between the temp agency and BofA. At this point I'm waiting for the location to close so I can go back to social services and say "Can't get you the paperwork you need because the company closed, sorry." We're so farking paranoid about the ONE guy getting food stamps who drives a BMW that the people who ACTUALLY need help but are in farked up situations CAN'T get help because the paperwork is so damned complicated. And then we wonder why there are so many homeless on the street, why so many mentally ill people are freaking out, why so many suicides. . . . .

Sorry for the rant, but this is sort of a personal issue for me. I don't understand why the people in power (whoever that actually is) haven't figured out that if you seriously depress the living situation of a large group of people, especially a majority of a country, violence will occur, and their power will do little to protect them from it (see Mubarak, etc.).
 
2013-03-13 09:22:35 PM

2wolves: So you're in favor of disbanding the U.S.'s standing military.


As a matter of fact I am, sort of. I think we could disband the Air Force, Marines, Army, and Naval Surface Warfare fleets (carriers, etc). The Air's Force's ICBM units would be rolled into the Navy. That would give us our Strategic Nuclear Forces (ICBM, Subs/SLBMs) for the big boys, Special Forces/SEALS (for the tarrists), and Naval Intelligence as our sole military intelligence unit. I'm guessing roughly a 80% reduction in military spending, but that may be very conservative.

2wolves: Good to know you are ready to repel the coming invasion by those bloody Welsh!


Never turn your back on them!
 
2013-03-13 09:22:42 PM

libranoelrose: lordargent: [ww4.hdnux.com image 628x407]

Haters gonna hate.

[i.imgur.com image 628x407]


Thanks.

//gun nut
 
2013-03-13 09:22:51 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: Giltric: Remember....there are alot of people on this site who think that only people like that should own a rifle like an AR-15.

Agents of the State are beyond criticism or reproach, teatard -- they are simply better than we are, that's why they can be trusted with AR-15s and we can't. I for one am grateful that our superiors have our best interests at heart.


Another one, proving that that people who most want guns are the mentally ill.
 
2013-03-13 09:22:54 PM
I think we need to discuss the word "mass" when it comes to shooting. I mean technically it was in  a public area and there were lots of bullets BUT--------Only 2 people were killed. So really is that mass? In my opinion it is not.
 
2013-03-13 09:23:00 PM
Folks who are against widespread high-capacity guns: "See - this has to stop. How can we address this?"
Folks who are for widespread high-capacity guns: "Shut up you baby asswipe pieces of shiat. You sound like an idiot."
 
2013-03-13 09:25:05 PM
 
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