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2013-03-13 01:34:10 PM  
Brushing aside millennia, thousands and thousands of years of wisdom, tradition, culture...

F*ck your culture and tradition.  I am not beholden to it.  It means nothing to me.  And I'll fight at every turn to keep you from pushing it on those who don't follow it.
 
2013-03-13 01:35:34 PM  
Go f*ck yourself, bub
 
2013-03-13 01:58:35 PM  
That sort of principled conservative stance seems likely to get a spectacular response from younger voters.
 
2013-03-13 02:02:19 PM  
And by "single people" he really means "single women"

But if you do have sex, you'd better get pregnant, and you'd better carry that shame-baby the whole term and then you'd better raise it all by yourself, you dirty whore.  And don't you dare go on food stamps or welfare.  You should have thought of that before you had sex.
 
2013-03-13 02:07:43 PM  
We also shouldn't be allowed to masturbate, according to these yahoos.

Apparently, only the Church has the authority to fark us all.
 
2013-03-13 02:10:35 PM  
These are the same people who say 90% of gay people were molested as children and are currently child molesters, the nazis were homosexuals, gays are more violent, and gays aren't discriminated against, as well as however else you can vilify them. Oh, and they love gays.
 
2013-03-13 02:11:00 PM  
Tell that to Mary, mother of Jesus Christ!
 
2013-03-13 02:12:05 PM  
The Family Research Council

i.infopls.com

These guys?
 
2013-03-13 02:13:22 PM  
Family Research Council

Aaaand that's where I stopped reading. I don't need to click the link to believe subby on this one. They're that farking stupid and crazy.
 
2013-03-13 02:13:37 PM  
 
2013-03-13 02:14:09 PM  

Chariset: And by "single people" he really means "single women"




Wait, all the single ladies?
 
2013-03-13 02:14:26 PM  

Dr Dreidel: We also shouldn't be allowed to masturbate, according to these yahoos.


Well, that's what he means by "single people."

You need to have at least  two people, otherwise it just doesn't work.
 
2013-03-13 02:14:29 PM  
This is actually consistent with all their other positions that I've seen.  They want to outlaw abortion, they want to eliminate modern sex ed, they want to keep gay marriage illegal, and they want what seem to be a lot of theocratic policies put into law.

If no one had sex before marriage, no one would "need" birth control, abortion, paternity tests, Planned Parenthood, or sexy ads on TV.  That is, in their view.  Trying to ban all the things that fornicating people want/need/use only makes sense if you also want to ban fornication, otherwise:

Chariset: But if you do have sex, you'd better get pregnant, and you'd better carry that shame-baby the whole term and then you'd better raise it all by yourself, you dirty whore. And don't you dare go on food stamps or welfare. You should have thought of that before you had sex.


They'd end up feeling a little judgy, and have to worry about the needs of sinners.
 
2013-03-13 02:17:21 PM  

chatikh: Also from the same page:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/frcs-peter-sprigg-suggests-kid na pping-laws-shouldnt-protect-gay-parents


Also consistent with their other beliefs.  Most kidnappings are by non-custodial parent... since the FRC campaigns against gay marriage and gay partners adopting the biological kids of their partners, then it is consistent that they'd want biological parents to be able to take their kids away from fake-ass, adoptive gay parents.

Again, this is not a statement of support for the FRC, just pointing out that there is a method to their madness.
 
2013-03-13 02:19:50 PM  
ok, you guys always get on me about threadjacking "marriage equality" threads with my singles-rights derp, but we can all agree on this one, right?
 
2013-03-13 02:19:52 PM  
How on earth do they expect single people to stop being single if we're not allowed to have sex?
 
2013-03-13 02:20:26 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Go f*ck yourself, bub



Exactly how I feel about gun control.  Government doesn't belong in the bedroom or the gun cabinet.
 
2013-03-13 02:22:12 PM  
www.aguywalksinto365bars.com
 
2013-03-13 02:22:50 PM  
From another article on this site:

"Pollsshow overwhelming public support for protecting gay and transgender people from discrimination on the job. But that doesn't matter to FRC, which has a lot invested in convincing its supporters that LGBT equality is incompatible with religious freedom.

Several years ago, FRC warned that a federal hate crimes law would be used to silence preachers.  Other religious right leaders saidChristians would be tossed into jail for preaching against homosexuality. That legislation was signed into law in 2009; as Perkins himself makes clear, the freedom to trash-talk LGBT people has survived."


That's totally a good point. As long as FRC is spewing trash, obviously the right to trash gays has stayed. FRC is in Washington, D.C. which has full gay rights as far as I know, including non-discrimination. So if they can still do that, then everything they say are lies. Which I already knew, that point just never occurred to me.
 
2013-03-13 02:28:30 PM  

Sybarite: Chariset: And by "single people" he really means "single women"

Wait, all the single ladies?


All the single ladies
 
2013-03-13 02:42:57 PM  
Anyone have an over/under on this guy getting caught blowing someone in a rest stop bathroom?

/NTTAWWT, unless you're some wingnut taintsniffer
 
2013-03-13 02:43:09 PM  

chatikh: From another article on this site:

"Pollsshow overwhelming public support for protecting gay and transgender people from discrimination on the job. But that doesn't matter to FRC, which has a lot invested in convincing its supporters that LGBT equality is incompatible with religious freedom.

Several years ago, FRC warned that a federal hate crimes law would be used to silence preachers.  Other religious right leaders saidChristians would be tossed into jail for preaching against homosexuality. That legislation was signed into law in 2009; as Perkins himself makes clear, the freedom to trash-talk LGBT people has survived."

That's totally a good point. As long as FRC is spewing trash, obviously the right to trash gays has stayed. FRC is in Washington, D.C. which has full gay rights as far as I know, including non-discrimination. So if they can still do that, then everything they say are lies. Which I already knew, that point just never occurred to me.


Also, has anyone ever been thrown in jail simply for supporting anti-miscegnation laws or being a big ol' racist in public? No? Then why would it suddenly be a felony to cite your religious dogma?

// because gays have MAGIC POWERS
// like "straight guy magnets" at the base of their johnsons - a man is powerless to resist
 
2013-03-13 03:03:41 PM  
Everything, because what the Supreme Court essentially said is single people have the right to engage in sexual intercourse. Well, societies have always forbidden that, there were laws against it... Brushing aside millennia, thousands and thousands of years of wisdom, tradition, culture and setting in motion what we have.

This guy's knowledge of history is laughable.
 
2013-03-13 03:05:33 PM  

impaler: Everything, because what the Supreme Court essentially said is single people have the right to engage in sexual intercourse. Well, societies have always forbidden that, there were laws against it... Brushing aside millennia, thousands and thousands of years of wisdom, tradition, culture and setting in motion what we have.

This guy's knowledge of history is laughable.


FTFY
 
2013-03-13 03:06:18 PM  

Dr Dreidel: chatikh: From another article on this site:

"Pollsshow overwhelming public support for protecting gay and transgender people from discrimination on the job. But that doesn't matter to FRC, which has a lot invested in convincing its supporters that LGBT equality is incompatible with religious freedom.

Several years ago, FRC warned that a federal hate crimes law would be used to silence preachers.  Other religious right leaders saidChristians would be tossed into jail for preaching against homosexuality. That legislation was signed into law in 2009; as Perkins himself makes clear, the freedom to trash-talk LGBT people has survived."

That's totally a good point. As long as FRC is spewing trash, obviously the right to trash gays has stayed. FRC is in Washington, D.C. which has full gay rights as far as I know, including non-discrimination. So if they can still do that, then everything they say are lies. Which I already knew, that point just never occurred to me.

Also, has anyone ever been thrown in jail simply for supporting anti-miscegnation laws or being a big ol' racist in public? No? Then why would it suddenly be a felony to cite your religious dogma?

// because gays have MAGIC POWERS
// like "straight guy magnets" at the base of their johnsons - a man is powerless to resist


Here's a podcast you may find interesting:

KERA (the Dallas NPR affiliate) has a daily show called Think. Yesterday, they did a show about how the myth of christian persecution came to be. It was really interesting. Here's a link, if you have time:

http://podcastdownload.npr.org/anon.npr-podcasts/podcast/77/510036/1 74 131078/KERA_174131078.mp3?_kip_ipx=270823787-1363201507
 
2013-03-13 03:08:39 PM  

dittybopper: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Go f*ck yourself, bub


Exactly how I feel about gun control.  Government doesn't belong in the bedroom or the gun cabinet.


Is there any subject you wont try to insert gun control into the conversation?
 
2013-03-13 03:09:36 PM  

sammyk: Is there any subject you wont try to insert gun control into the conversation?


Be fair; there hasn't been a gun thread in like 40 minutes.
 
2013-03-13 03:10:19 PM  

BunkoSquad: sammyk: Is there any subject you wont try to insert gun control into the conversation?

Be fair; there hasn't been a gun thread in like 40 minutes.


Hey guys! Is it time to talk about gun control?
 
2013-03-13 03:11:26 PM  
the 1972 case that overturned a Massachusetts law banning the distribution of contraceptives to unmarried people, may rank "as the single most destructive decision in the history of the Court."

Why do they want so many goddamn babies? Seriously, why so many babies?!
 
2013-03-13 03:14:25 PM  

impaler: Everything, because what the Supreme Court essentially said is single people have the right to engage in sexual intercourse. Well, societies have always forbidden that, there were laws against it... Brushing aside millennia, thousands and thousands of years of wisdom, tradition, culture and setting in motion what we have.

This guy's knowledge of history is laughable.


When you learn history from the Bible you are not really learning history.
 
2013-03-13 03:15:09 PM  

chatikh: gays aren't discriminated against


Gays have special rights afforded to them that make them special and above the law and old white men are being discriminated against and if they were only a poor black lesbian woman who was also a single mom, they'd totally have it made.

/actually read this argument, multiple times, on my local news site
 
2013-03-13 03:17:23 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: the 1972 case that overturned a Massachusetts law banning the distribution of contraceptives to unmarried people, may rank "as the single most destructive decision in the history of the Court."

Why do they want so many goddamn babies? Seriously, why so many babies?!


Because they want to keep women barefoot and pregnant, rather than in school or employed.
 
2013-03-13 03:17:29 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: the 1972 case that overturned a Massachusetts law banning the distribution of contraceptives to unmarried people, may rank "as the single most destructive decision in the history of the Court."

Why do they want so many goddamn babies? Seriously, why so many babies?!


White Evengelical Christian Males typically don't really care about babies they just want to control women, they just claim to care about babies because Jesus said something about little ones or to emotianaly manipulate the gullible.
 
2013-03-13 03:22:16 PM  

dittybopper: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Go f*ck yourself, bub


Exactly how I feel about gun control.  Government doesn't belong in the bedroom or the gun cabinet.


Really? In a thread about sex?

No one is walking into your home and rifling through your gun cabinet. But if something happens I could have a large foreign object inserted into my hoo-haw that I don't want in there.

One of these things is actually happening in our country while the other is not.

sheesh.
 
2013-03-13 03:22:48 PM  
And "conservatives" take another step toward their ultimate irrelevance.

These guys aren't helping you attract voters, Republicans.
 
2013-03-13 03:25:16 PM  

Theaetetus: Why do they want so many goddamn babies? Seriously, why so many babies?!

Because they want to keep women barefoot and pregnant, rather than in school or employed.


It is ultimately about control.  Society doesn't change if you have constant mindset in leadership.  If women are always "chained" to wifely duties, that caps one powerful source of change.  Ultimately it is their way of avoiding obsolescence, because every time society changes drastically (women's suffrage, the end of slavery, gay rights, etc...) and the world doesn't end, then those that have been using the bible to justify injustice lose chunks of their foundation.

You can't keep fooling people forever when your message is publicly proven false.
 
2013-03-13 03:25:59 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: But if something happens I could have a large foreign object inserted into my hoo-haw that I don't want in there.


you're complaining about a guy turning a sex thread into a gun thread... and in the process you turn it into a rape thread?  So, can we start talking about 3D printing next?
 
2013-03-13 03:28:34 PM  

spongeboob: When you learn history from the Bible you are not really learning history.


Except it's not even what's actually in the Bible. Here's some of what marriage tradition looked like in the Bible:

Adam and Eve: Never married.
Abraham: Married w/concubines, also pimped out his wife (repeatedly) by telling everyone she's his sister so they wouldn't kill him.
Jacob: Two wives, two concubines

and those are the big names, then you get fun examples like:

Onan: sleeping with his brother's widow, from which we got contraception is bad (which is the wrong lesson to take)

Tamar: sleeps with her father-in-law (who mistook her for a prostitute) to get pregnant after her husband dies.

Solomon: 700 wives, 300 concubines

So, yeah, lots of good wisdom and tradition there.
 
2013-03-13 03:30:21 PM  

serial_crusher: CapeFearCadaver: But if something happens I could have a large foreign object inserted into my hoo-haw that I don't want in there.

you're complaining about a guy turning a sex thread into a gun thread... and in the process you turn it into a rape thread?  So, can we start talking about 3D printing next?


Actually, abortion... because if I can't get birth control because some guy like in TFA had his way and I got pregnant, then yes, I'd have to have an abortion. I can't financially afford to be pregnant. If I had to have an abortion I'd have to have a vaginal wand inserted in order to get the State mandated ultrasound.

So yes, it does follow with the article and TFT, thank you very much.
 
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2013-03-13 03:31:49 PM  

Chariset: And by "single people" he really means "single women"


I don't think they would be too keen on celibacy when it comes to the young men in their lives.
 
2013-03-13 03:33:09 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: KERA (the Dallas NPR affiliate) has a daily show called Think. Yesterday, they did a show about how the myth of christian persecution came to be. It was really interesting. Here's a link, if you have time:

http://podcastdownload.npr.org/anon.npr-podcasts/podcast/77/510036/1 74 131078/KERA_174131078.mp3?_kip_ipx=270823787-1363201507


I'm on my work computer, but I'll take a guess: Because it's every Christian's duty to place themselves on the cross (may need help with the last nail, though), that they may feel the savior's suffering for all of mankind for themselves?

I really don't care WHY it is they believe they're persecuted, but can we get them to realize THAT it is, and in so doing, get them to confine their outbursts of preacherality to preacher-friendly places (like Congress or Church)?

// no
// you want persecution, there are some European and Japanese-American (or simply Americans whose eyelids were just too close together) 80somethings with a little light to shed on the topic
 
2013-03-13 03:36:52 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: KERA (the Dallas NPR affiliate) has a daily show called Think. Yesterday, they did a show about how the myth of christian persecution came to be. It was really interesting. Here's a link, if you have time:

http://podcastdownload.npr.org/anon.npr-podcasts/podcast/77/510036/1 74 131078/KERA_174131078.mp3?_kip_ipx=270823787-1363201507

I'm on my work computer, but I'll take a guess: Because it's every Christian's duty to place themselves on the cross (may need help with the last nail, though), that they may feel the savior's suffering for all of mankind for themselves?

I really don't care WHY it is they believe they're persecuted, but can we get them to realize THAT it is, and in so doing, get them to confine their outbursts of preacherality to preacher-friendly places (like Congress or Church)?

// no
// you want persecution, there are some European and Japanese-American (or simply Americans whose eyelids were just too close together) 80somethings with a little light to shed on the topic


Real close, yeah. It's an interesting topic because they address how histories have been altered to serve the narrative of Christian suffering. It also demonstrates the difficulty of doing what you're hoping for, in that the ingrained nature of a belief in persecution literally makes them believe any reduction in prestige or control is a form of persecution. It was interesting to me because I learned that when they cry persecution because they can't pray in school they honestly believe it.

I'm not saying I believe they're being persecuted. Merely that it alters my perception of how to deal with them when I realized they were being honest about their feelings, no matter how misguided those feelings are.
 
2013-03-13 03:37:07 PM  
I can go along with this.  I mean, for ugly people.
 
2013-03-13 03:40:33 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: I can go along with this.  I mean, for ugly people.


Buddy, I've seen you through hidden cameras carefully placed inside the rim of your toilet. You're not one to talk.
 
2013-03-13 03:41:50 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: If I had to have an abortion I'd have to have a vaginal wand inserted in order to get the State mandated ultrasound.


This is what Republicans call "small, unintrusive government"
 
2013-03-13 03:42:54 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: serial_crusher: CapeFearCadaver: But if something happens I could have a large foreign object inserted into my hoo-haw that I don't want in there.

you're complaining about a guy turning a sex thread into a gun thread... and in the process you turn it into a rape thread?  So, can we start talking about 3D printing next?

Actually, abortion... because if I can't get birth control because some guy like in TFA had his way and I got pregnant, then yes, I'd have to have an abortion. I can't financially afford to be pregnant. If I had to have an abortion I'd have to have a vaginal wand inserted in order to get the State mandated ultrasound.

So yes, it does follow with the article and TFT, thank you very much.


you could 3D print your own condoms though...
 
2013-03-13 03:44:31 PM  

nmrsnr: spongeboob: When you learn history from the Bible you are not really learning history.

Except it's not even what's actually in the Bible. Here's some of what marriage tradition looked like in the Bible:

Adam and Eve: Never married.
Abraham: Married w/concubines, also pimped out his wife (repeatedly) by telling everyone she's his sister so they wouldn't kill him.
Jacob: Two wives, two concubines

and those are the big names, then you get fun examples like:

Onan: sleeping with his brother's widow, from which we got contraception is bad (which is the wrong lesson to take)

Tamar: sleeps with her father-in-law (who mistook her for a prostitute) to get pregnant after her husband dies.

Solomon: 700 wives, 300 concubines

So, yeah, lots of good wisdom and tradition there.


Don't forget Lot, offering his virgin daughters to be raped by a crowd and then later getting both of his virgin daughters pregnant.  But that is okay because he was drunk and they came on to him

And this jem
 
2013-03-13 03:45:32 PM  

serial_crusher: you could 3D print your own condoms though...


If regular condoms break occasionally, can you imagine how flimsy those things could be? I don't know that I'd trust it.
 
2013-03-13 03:46:32 PM  
Geez, how many times does this have to be said?

"The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation." - by Trudeau, Pierre Elliott.
 
2013-03-13 03:49:29 PM  

spongeboob: Don't forget Lot, offering his virgin daughters to be raped by a crowd and then later getting both of his virgin daughters pregnant. But that is okay because he was drunk and they came on to him


I left Lot off the list because both the rape-y townsfolk and the incest are seen as bad things in the Bible, so we do agree on those values. Tricking your father-in-law into thinking you're a prostitute so that you can get impregnated by him is totally a-ok, though.
 
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