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(Newser)   No one could accuse the Brits of a lack of passion for their history. As the feud continues over where to bury Richard III, the head of the York Minster church is getting hate mail   (newser.com) divider line 3
    More: Interesting, Richard III, York Minster, discovery, hate mail, University of Leicester  
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2013-03-13 12:47:16 PM
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A hearse! A hearse! My kingdom for a hearse!
2013-03-13 01:44:34 PM
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brantgoose: what_now: Nine of Richard's descendants have called for his reburial at York,

Richard the Third doesn't have descendents. His only child died as a young boy.

Increasingly people seem to use the words "ancestor" and "descendant" without respect to a direct genetic or geneological link. The semantic edge of the words is being dulled. English doesn't have an informal kinship term for indirect relations who are not ancestors, or indirect relations who are not descendants. Other languages have different and more varied semantics which can cover such ideas


"Collateral descendants" is the term I've heard, usually applied to the descendants of someone's siblings. I'm not sure if "collateral ancestor" is a real term, though -- besides, if you back far enough, almost everyone in recorded history could be claimed as collateral ancestor.

York Minster is a beautiful place, but in this case I think they're wrong; the body's been in Leicester for 500+ years and there's no reason not to follow protocol with ancient skeletons, which is to bury them in the nearest church. Besides, if Richard III really had a problem with it, surely he could have made a few spectral visitations to let people know about it. Though I suppose that even if York doesn't get him, they could always build a cenotaph, like Florence did for Dante (whose remains are and always were in Ravenna). That should bring some of the tourist money.
2013-03-13 01:41:55 PM
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No one could accuse submitter of thinking up an intelligent or witty headline, as he lazily copy n' pastes the first sentence.

All that's happening here is people are arguing over how best to get tourist money. It's shameful.

I am an impartial 3rd party and I don't care about tourists, give me the final say. I say Westminster. A traditional resting place for English kings.
 
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