spentmiles: "Pilate and his wife both have visions that night that show an eagle (representing Jesus) being killed."I knew Jesus was a'merican! fark yeah!
Weaver95: well think about it. every group has someone in it who's kind of a loveable idiot. loyal, just smart enough to help with the con they're running and easy going enough not to get greedy. My read is that Peter and Judas were the big brains of the operation. everyone else was a mix of hangers on or actively in on the scam and not inherently loyal to the outfit. i'll bet they scattered to the winds after they pulled that body out of the crypt. when things started taking on a life of its own, Peter gets a couple of hard nosed realists among the remaining disciples together and cleans house. He gets organized and figures he can ride this thing till the day he dies. But Judas and a few of the others had time to think it through. they're feeling guilty about how it all turned out and they wanna go legit. But they're in too deep - they know too much. Peter and his buddies know they need to keep a handle on the story. Judas going all soft and blabby would destroy their religion before it gets off the ground. So they show up all 'mexican standoff' spaghetti western style and Judas ends up dangling from the end of a rope. that keeps the others in line when they hear about it, and Peter spreads some cash around to keep everyone in line.
Dion Fortune: Siddhis.Jesus most certainly would have attained them. E.g.::1. PARKAYA PRAVESH - entering one's soul in the body of some other person.2. HAADI VIDYA - a person neither feels hungry nor thirsty and he can remain without eating food or drinking water for several days at a stretch. Several Yogis of the Himalayas, remain engrossed in deep Sadhanas for months and years without eating or drinking anything. 3. KAADI VIDYA - person shall not feel cold even if he sits in the snow laden mountains and shall not feel hot even if he sits in the fire. Thus a Sadhak can perform incessant penance without being affected by change of weather or seasons.4. MADALASA VIDYA - a person becomes capable of increasing or decreasing the size of his body according to his wish. Through this siddhi one may enter into stone or change the density in one's body, enabling one to pass through solid matter. Mahima Siddhi - The ability to increase the size of one's body, ultimately enveloping the universe.5. VAYU GAMAN SIDDHI Through this Siddhi a person can become capable of flying in the skies and traveling from one place to another in just a few seconds. The Jain scriptures speak of Jain ascetics who could fly from place to place in a few seconds.6. KANAKDHARA SIDDHI One can acquire immense and unlimited wealth through this Siddhi. It's said that once Shankaracharya saw a very poor and destitute woman and with the help of the Kanakdhara Yantra he showered gold in her house.7. PRAKYA SADHANA Through this Sadhana a yogi can direct his disciple to take birth from the womb of a woman, who is childless or cannot bear children. Several Yogis have thus blessed infertile women with children. Swami Vishuddhanand had accomplished this Sadhana and had used it to bring happiness into the lives of several women. But today only two or three persons are accomplished in this Sadhana.8. SURYA VIGYAN - one substance can be transformed into another through the medium of sun rays. Swami Vishudhanan ...
CapeFearCadaver: The discovery of the text doesn't mean these events happened, but rather that some people living at the time appear to have believed in them, said Roelof van den Broek, of Utrecht University in the NetherlandsSo, kind of like the other texts out there?
Great Porn Dragon: /oddly enough, there are not really any true trickster deities in Mesopotamian mythos...
KarmicDisaster: I'm not really sure what He was wearing by the Tomb, it says that his burial cloths were still in the tomb and burial customs being what they were He had nothing on under them. Maybe He stole some robes off a clothes line. And a bandana.
KarmicDisaster: There are several mentions in the King James Bible where Jesus was not recognized even by his closest associates.1) Mary Magdalene comes to the tomb and thinks that he is the gardener.
Master Sphincter: You are willing to risk your salvation for a few chuckles?
Master Sphincter: And this:"The ways of the wicked attract the vanity of men. Do not as they do, but as they do not do" Leviticus: 69-A
Weaver95: possibility one: Jesus was a trickster god, or maybe a trickster god created christianity as a joke that later got outta hand.possibility two: 'Jesus' was the user name on the account. the disciples created 'Jesus' as a persona. they made up a costume, perfected the stage act and then swapped identities around whenever they went into a big town. But things get too big too fast, and Judas and Peter figure they gotta find a way to calm that shiat down before they ALL end up getting stoned in the town square. so they get the dumbest, most trusting guy in the pile to assume the persona of Jesus telling him that hey, it's cool...one more big score and they'll all blow town. the fix is in, they'll get him out of it before he goes down for good. He just has to play the role and Pilate will rough him up, let him go. things are going great until the crowd goes nuts. Pilate took the bribe but to keep the crowd from going all stabby he's got no choice - he HAS to sell 'Jesus' down the river. So this guy ends up playing the role of his life: the whole deal....whipping, crucifixion, torture...the whole bit. Judas and Peter are appalled, this wasn't part of the plan but they're in too deep. they hang around for a bit, not knowing what to do next. after 'Jesus' is dead, they figure they'd better go get the body because with all this attention someone might go dig up 'Jesus' and see if descriptions match. if someone figures out 'Jesus' is just an actor playing a role, they'll ALL go down in flames. they get Mary and the girls to make up a crazy story about angels, haul the body out of town in the dead of night, and bury it in an unmarked grave out in the desert. then they spend the next 50 years playing up the cult from behind the scenes, Peter lets it go to his head and Judas gets a serious case of the guilts and either hangs himself or the other disciples off him and make it look like a suicide.
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