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2013-03-13 10:31:31 AM  
Isn't that illegal in most States?
 
2013-03-13 10:41:52 AM  
Police deparmtent

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2013-03-13 12:07:04 PM  
You can defeat a polygraph by coughing.
 
2013-03-13 12:07:39 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Isn't that illegal in most States?


It's not uncommon for police candidates to have to pass an objective polygraph test during their initial psych entry.

FTFA:Bob Peters, a spokesman for the American Polygraph Association, said asking about factual matters is a better approach than using subjective questions about prejudice or racism. He says a polygraph can't accurately predict whether someone is racist.

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The last thing rural Tennessee needs are racist dicks with the power of a badge behind them.
 
2013-03-13 12:08:15 PM  
Considering a polygraph is not reliable and only stupid people believe it actually works.

/I've put a poison in your sandwich and drink, so better confess or no antidote for you.
 
2013-03-13 12:09:05 PM  
So what if you're only a little bit racist you know,but not racist racist.
 
2013-03-13 12:10:08 PM  
Happy Happy! We now have the tools to root out the racist Bastids at the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction for looking into making Caucasian students wear WHITE PRIVILEGE bracelets.

You know, so they can be identified and targeted for being white.

/good luck citizens. you're going to need it.
 
2013-03-13 12:11:37 PM  
Isn't everyone at least a little bit racist?

Oddly enough the one guy in my high school class that everyone knew was both an asshole and racist is now a cop, so go figure.
 
2013-03-13 12:12:07 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Happy Happy! We now have the tools to root out the racist Bastids at the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction for looking into making Caucasian students wear WHITE PRIVILEGE bracelets.

You know, so they can be identified and targeted for being white.

/good luck citizens. you're going to need it.


Oh, look. It's the poor white kid who feels like the system is racist to him.

nopurplewalls.files.wordpress.com

Oh, please, clemkadidlefark, tell us about those days again where white people didn't have to give up their seats to black folk, again?
 
2013-03-13 12:18:56 PM  
So, what is going to happen when it turns out that some black candidates are flagged as racist?  Or will they not be tested?

Or is it impossible for a black person to be racist.
 
2013-03-13 12:22:43 PM  

hardinparamedic: Oh, look. It's the poor white kid who feels like the system is racist to him.

nopurplewalls.files.wordpress.com

Oh, please, clemkadidlefark, tell us about those days again where white people didn't have to give up their seats to black folk, again?


Oh sweet, it's that guy who thinks it's impossible to be racist against whites.  Why don't you tell us about your experience during the days where blacks had to give up their seats to whites?  You were alive back then, right?
 
2013-03-13 12:22:44 PM  
One polygraph expert warned that lie detectors can't accurately predict racism for reasons that include people's inability to recognize their own racism.
Sullivan said he doubts racists will even apply for the force if they know about the tests.
"I think the polygraph will definitely keep these people from applying," the 39-year-old chief said.


Thanks a lot for ruining the chief's strategy, TFA!

Clemkadidlefark: Happy Happy! We now have the tools to root out the racist Bastids at the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction for looking into making Caucasian students wear WHITE PRIVILEGE bracelets.

You know, so they can be identified and targeted for being white.

/good luck citizens. you're going to need it.


What the hell is that?
 
2013-03-13 12:23:11 PM  

Tricky Chicken: So, what is going to happen when it turns out that some black candidates are flagged as racist?  Or will they not be tested?

Or is it impossible for a black person to be racist.


On a purely definitional level, yes, anyone who believes that a race is objectively better than another based on genetics is racist. However, in a power structure that favors one race over another (the American society, for example), the ability of a racist unfavored person to exercise his racism over an individual of the favored group is severely limited. Thus, a black racist is impotent compared to a white racist who has the power of government and cultural constructs to back him up.

So, to answer your question, it depends.
 
2013-03-13 12:24:16 PM  

Tricky Chicken: So, what is going to happen when it turns out that some black candidates are flagged as racist?  Or will they not be tested?

Or is it impossible for a black person to be racist.


The black candidate will sue because the racisim test is racist.
then they will win and the police will stop having to screen for racism because the racism test clearly violates the affirmative action statutes that are designed to root out racism by discriminating against white men in favor of everyone else.
But it isn't racism because it's affirmative action.

/giggity.
 
2013-03-13 12:26:14 PM  
FTA: the reserve officer was dismissed after a dashboard camera captured him using a racial slur to describe a black motorist.

Holy shiat.  Chris Rock says it and makes thousands of bucks an appearance.  An obscure cop in East Jesus, Tennessee says it and the department goes through eleven chiefs, bends over and spreads 'em for the PC types, and institutes Thought Policing in its hiring.

Sounds like their speed trap pulled over the wrong lawyered-up pissant.
 
2013-03-13 12:26:26 PM  

Tricky Chicken: So, what is going to happen when it turns out that some black candidates are flagged as racist?  Or will they not be tested?

Or is it impossible for a black person to be racist.


Because they never got forty acres and a mule.
 
2013-03-13 12:29:21 PM  
Bahahhha.....so as long as you're just telling the truth when you say you hate everyone equally, you can be a cop...

Good plan.
 
2013-03-13 12:30:11 PM  
Do I remember that the RCMP was doing something like this to root out gays up to the 1980s? Something along the lines of show them pictures of women and men in various states of undress and see what they react to
 
2013-03-13 12:31:01 PM  
Yay. Another round of "Is It Racist?"

As an aside, I had a friend who was a monstrously egotistical bastard and still didn't make the force. Put himself through the academy and everything. He really wanted his shot to be a monstrously egotistical bastard in uniform. He would've been really good at it, too.

Oh well.
 
2013-03-13 12:31:59 PM  

xria: Do I remember that the RCMP was doing something like this to root out gays up to the 1980s? Something along the lines of show them pictures of women and men in various states of undress and see what they react to


That's a Penile Plethysmograph

Unlike Polygraphy, which is generally legally inadmissible as evidence because of it's lack of reliability, there's actually research which shows it's effective.
 
2013-03-13 12:32:47 PM  
What if you fail the test but some of your best friends are black?
 
2013-03-13 12:33:24 PM  

veive: Tricky Chicken: So, what is going to happen when it turns out that some black candidates are flagged as racist?  Or will they not be tested?

Or is it impossible for a black person to be racist.

The black candidate will sue because the racisim test is racist.
then they will win and the police will stop having to screen for racism because the racism test clearly violates the affirmative action statutes that are designed to root out racism by discriminating against white men in favor of everyone else.
But it isn't racism because it's affirmative action.

/giggity.


Please tell me you're not a cop.
 
2013-03-13 12:36:13 PM  

MBooda: FTA: the reserve officer was dismissed after a dashboard camera captured him using a racial slur to describe a black motorist.

Holy shiat.  Chris Rock says it and makes thousands of bucks an appearance.  An obscure cop in East Jesus, Tennessee says it and the department goes through eleven chiefs, bends over and spreads 'em for the PC types, and institutes Thought Policing in its hiring.

Sounds like their speed trap pulled over the wrong lawyered-up pissant.


Good. Couldn't happen to nicer bunch of asses

/who knew intent mattered?
 
2013-03-13 12:37:10 PM  
most cops I've encountered have been very professional. DOn't be a dick to them and they usually reciprocate.
 
2013-03-13 12:41:53 PM  

bdub77: Isn't everyone at least a little bit racist?

Oddly enough the one guy in my high school class that everyone knew was both an asshole and racist is now a cop, so go figure.


ESPECIALLY the people who claim to not be racist at all.
 
2013-03-13 12:45:07 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Tricky Chicken: On a purely definitional level, yes, anyone who believes that a race is objectively better than another based on genetics is racist. However, in a power structure that favors one race over another (the American society, for example), the ability of a racist unfavored person to exercise his racism over an individual of the favored group is severely limited. Thus, a black racist is impotent compared to a white racist who has the power of government and cultural constructs to back him up.

So, to answer your question, it depends.


But as soon ad a black racist becomes a policeman, he will have the ability to directly exercise his racism over other groups.  He could disproportionately ticked some groups. He could let others off with a warning.
 
2013-03-13 12:50:08 PM  
The last thing rural Tennessee needs are more racist dicks with the power of a badge behind them.

FTFY
 
2013-03-13 12:52:47 PM  

susler: The last thing rural Tennessee needs are more racist dicks with the power of a badge behind them.

FTFY


Maybe they can test current employees, too?  Just to be sure.  I'm certain that the police union wouldn't have an absolute seizure over that.
 
2013-03-13 12:55:22 PM  
Polygraphs are far from 100% reliable, in either direction.

The human operator is and is not the most fallible part of the test.  Yes, you read that right.
 
2013-03-13 12:55:23 PM  

Theaetetus: Police deparmtent

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My first greenlight and theirs a missspeling in it.
 
2013-03-13 01:01:15 PM  

veive: Tricky Chicken: So, what is going to happen when it turns out that some black candidates are flagged as racist?  Or will they not be tested?

Or is it impossible for a black person to be racist.

The black candidate will sue because the racisim test is racist.
then they will win and the police will stop having to screen for racism because the racism test clearly violates the affirmative action statutes that are designed to root out racism by discriminating against white men in favor of everyone else.
But it isn't racism because it's affirmative action.

/giggity.


The funny thing is, if a black person were to come on here and make assumptions based on REAL experiences of discrimination you'd both be biatching about a race card. And yet, you're the only ones in the thread who are acting like victims. Funnier, is that your issue isn't that YOU are being discriminated against. You're actually here biatching because in your little world the white racist would be punished before the black racist. Smh.

/You sound like a biatch
 
2013-03-13 01:04:40 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: veive: Tricky Chicken: So, what is going to happen when it turns out that some black candidates are flagged as racist?  Or will they not be tested?

Or is it impossible for a black person to be racist.

The black candidate will sue because the racisim test is racist.
then they will win and the police will stop having to screen for racism because the racism test clearly violates the affirmative action statutes that are designed to root out racism by discriminating against white men in favor of everyone else.
But it isn't racism because it's affirmative action.

/giggity.

The funny thing is, if a black person were to come on here and make assumptions based on REAL experiences of discrimination you'd both be biatching about a race card. And yet, you're the only ones in the thread who are acting like victims. Funnier, is that your issue isn't that YOU are being discriminated against. You're actually here biatching because in your little world the white racist would be punished before the black racist. Smh.

/You sound like a biatch


And if a white person were speaking of a real situation where they'd be treated poorly due to race, you dismiss the possibility wholesale.
 
2013-03-13 01:05:12 PM  
Why is this under 'asinine' ?  I think this is the best thing to ever happen to a police department.  Screw all this 'is it illegal' crap, it's also illegal for the government to take up our guns... but you still see that going on.  So what's wrong with this???
 
2013-03-13 01:09:21 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: And if a white person were speaking of a real situation where they'd be treated poorly due to race, you dismiss the possibility wholesale.


Yes, because white people being discriminated against because of racial prejudices happens all the time, and is a historic injustice our country is known for.


www.pattyhume.com

LOOK! REVERSE RACISM! It's 30 degrees outside and we have to drink the COLD water!
 
2013-03-13 01:13:33 PM  

hardinparamedic: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: And if a white person were speaking of a real situation where they'd be treated poorly due to race, you dismiss the possibility wholesale.

Yes, because white people being discriminated against because of racial prejudices happens all the time, and is a historic injustice our country is known for.


[www.pattyhume.com image 640x424]

LOOK! REVERSE RACISM! It's 30 degrees outside and we have to drink the COLD water!


OMG, it happened to blacks so it can't possibly happen to whites! Like how men can't be raped or America can never be the bad guy in war!
 
2013-03-13 01:17:28 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: OMG, it happened to blacks so it can't possibly happen to whites! Like how men can't be raped or America can never be the bad guy in war!


cl.jroo.me

Barring a massive shift in both the socioeconomic status and political power of white, Christian males in America, plus a massive racial demographic shift the likes of which the United States has not seen since the exodus from Europe immediately before and after the Second World War, yes. You're an idiot for claiming that the culture and society of America would promote institutionalized and wide-spread racist discrimination against white people.

Face it, bro. We're white. And in charge.

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Like how men can't be raped or America can never be the bad guy in war!


Hey, I can make irrelevant and flawed comparisons too! Like how Gary Coleman was molested by that bike shop guy, and Archie Bunker told us awkwardly afterwords!
 
2013-03-13 01:23:00 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: veive: Tricky Chicken: The funny thing is, if a black person were to come on here and make assumptions based on REAL experiences of discrimination you'd both be biatching about a race card. And yet, you're the only ones in the thread who are acting like victims. Funnier, is that your issue isn't that YOU are being discriminated against. You're actually here biatching because in your little world the white racist would be punished before the black racist. Smh.

/You sound like a biatch


Aaaaaannnnd where exactly was I acting like a victim? When did you see me mention a race card? And where did your dumb ass come up with the idea that I'm white? What the fark would you know about any REAL experiences I may have had with racism punk?  Oh wait, you don't know shiat do you?

This policy is about punishing thought not actions. Is ir repugnant (that word means offensive) to think racist thoughts? Absolutely (that means yes). But if the officer never shows that he acts on those thoughts, then leave him be with his conscience.  If a guy is racist and knows it, and also knows that it is wrong, is he a horrible person?  I don't think so. A racist that relishes his racism on the other hand, is the same as a person that hates gay people and is proud of it. They are both pieces of shiate.

But, you know more about me than I do, so tell me what I really think.

/Go back to your cheetos mr ITG
 
2013-03-13 01:26:01 PM  

hardinparamedic: Like how Gary Coleman was molested by that bike shop guy


Arnold got away.  It was Dudley that was molested.
 
2013-03-13 01:26:34 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Happy Happy! We now have the tools to root out the racist Bastids at the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction for looking into making Caucasian students wear WHITE PRIVILEGE bracelets.

You know, so they can be identified and targeted for being white.

/good luck citizens. you're going to need it.


You sound like you need an education on what white privilege is.
 
2013-03-13 01:26:36 PM  

hardinparamedic: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: OMG, it happened to blacks so it can't possibly happen to whites! Like how men can't be raped or America can never be the bad guy in war!

[cl.jroo.me image 600x435]

Barring a massive shift in both the socioeconomic status and political power of white, Christian males in America, plus a massive racial demographic shift the likes of which the United States has not seen since the exodus from Europe immediately before and after the Second World War, yes. You're an idiot for claiming that the culture and society of America would promote institutionalized and wide-spread racist discrimination against white people.

Face it, bro. We're white. And in charge.

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Like how men can't be raped or America can never be the bad guy in war!

Hey, I can make irrelevant and flawed comparisons too! Like how Gary Coleman was molested by that bike shop guy, and Archie Bunker told us awkwardly afterwords!


I never said anything about the culture or institutions as a whole. But even if we assume they're still fixated around white, Christian, right-handed, conservatively-dressed, golf-playing males, that does not preclude all instances of reverse discrimination.
 
2013-03-13 01:27:29 PM  

Tricky Chicken: any REAL experiences I may have had with racism punk?


Tell us about racism punk.  What is racism punk like?
 
2013-03-13 01:29:16 PM  

hardinparamedic: xria: Do I remember that the RCMP was doing something like this to root out gays up to the 1980s? Something along the lines of show them pictures of women and men in various states of undress and see what they react to

That's a Penile Plethysmograph

Unlike Polygraphy, which is generally legally inadmissible as evidence because of it's lack of reliability, there's actually research which shows it's effective.


And then there was other research that showed it was pretty much bunkum. We don't use then anymore because of that whole 68% failure rate thing.
 
2013-03-13 01:29:38 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: DROxINxTHExWIND: veive: Tricky Chicken: So, what is going to happen when it turns out that some black candidates are flagged as racist?  Or will they not be tested?

Or is it impossible for a black person to be racist.

The black candidate will sue because the racisim test is racist.
then they will win and the police will stop having to screen for racism because the racism test clearly violates the affirmative action statutes that are designed to root out racism by discriminating against white men in favor of everyone else.
But it isn't racism because it's affirmative action.

/giggity.

The funny thing is, if a black person were to come on here and make assumptions based on REAL experiences of discrimination you'd both be biatching about a race card. And yet, you're the only ones in the thread who are acting like victims. Funnier, is that your issue isn't that YOU are being discriminated against. You're actually here biatching because in your little world the white racist would be punished before the black racist. Smh.

/You sound like a biatch

And if a white person were speaking of a real situation where they'd be treated poorly due to race, you dismiss the possibility wholesale.


Naw. I only dismiss the ridiculous hypotheticals out of hand.
 
2013-03-13 01:30:12 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: But even if we assume they're still fixated around white, Christian, right-handed, conservatively-dressed, golf-playing males, that does not preclude all instances of reverse discrimination.


Of course not. Racism against whites DOES happen. But the point is that fixating on it, and portraying it as part of a larger problem when in reality it's a rather isolated, localized problem in certain community scenarios is misleading and laughable, and ignores the fact that racial disparity occurs on a FAR larger level nationally between other minorities going against the status quo than it does whites.
 
2013-03-13 01:31:13 PM  

eraser8: Tricky Chicken: any REAL experiences I may have had with racism punk?

Tell us about racism punk.  What is racism punk like?


Its Rock-N-Roll where they say the "N" word a lot.
 
2013-03-13 01:33:02 PM  
ITT: a bunch of white guys try to explain racism to a black guy.
 
2013-03-13 01:33:15 PM  

hardinparamedic: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: But even if we assume they're still fixated around white, Christian, right-handed, conservatively-dressed, golf-playing males, that does not preclude all instances of reverse discrimination.

Of course not. Racism against whites DOES happen. But the point is that fixating on it, and portraying it as part of a larger problem when in reality it's a rather isolated, localized problem in certain community scenarios is misleading and laughable, and ignores the fact that racial disparity occurs on a FAR larger level nationally between other minorities going against the status quo than it does whites.


DROxINxTHExWIND: Naw. I only dismiss the ridiculous hypotheticals out of hand.


And in the case of giving that racist of any color a badge, gun, and legal authority, it can be just as real as any other race for that police officer.
 
2013-03-13 01:35:35 PM  

eraser8: Tricky Chicken: any REAL experiences I may have had with racism punk?

Tell us about racism punk.  What is racism punk like?


It is a bunch of suburban kids with shaved heads damaging musical instruments in their dad's garage.
 
2013-03-13 01:36:29 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Isn't that illegal in most States?


Who is CoveredThe Employee Polygraph Protection Act (EPPA) is administered by the Wage and Hour Division (WHD). The EPPA applies to most private employers. The law does not cover federal, state, and local government agencies.
 
2013-03-13 01:42:32 PM  
If you're black and not racist in the good ol' U. S. of A, you haven't been paying attention.

And probably too dumb to be allowed near a badge.
 
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