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(Yahoo)   Guess which state has a town that lifted its ban on displaying the Irish flag?   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 39
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2013-03-13 11:22:56 AM
Just in time for St. Patrick's Day
 
2013-03-13 11:23:05 AM
Minnesota?
 
2013-03-13 11:23:20 AM
Boston?.
 
2013-03-13 11:23:35 AM
Why would such a ban exist in the first place?
 
2013-03-13 11:23:45 AM
We need to go back to the good old days in the US where those paddies were kept in place and people knew how to treat them properly.

tah.oaisd.org
They changed this though and look what happened next.. the holocaust.
 
2013-03-13 11:26:33 AM
póg mo thóin
 
2013-03-13 11:27:01 AM

Honest Bender: Why would such a ban exist in the first place?


How can you even ask such a question?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-13 11:27:36 AM

Dead for Tax Reasons: póg mo thóin


I'll have to see it first.
 
2013-03-13 11:29:16 AM
Atlantic Beach is a state of mind, not a state.
 
2013-03-13 11:29:40 AM

Honest Bender: Why would such a ban exist in the first place?


Because America, fark Yeah!  And Jesus, too.

The Irish flag flys right next to the US flag in front of my house every day.   I defy the state to come and tell me I have to take it down.
 
2013-03-13 11:31:09 AM

Honest Bender: Why would such a ban exist in the first place?


This. Seems bizarre to me that a flag can be BANNED. Although, then again, I remember that absurd news story about a few kids getting suspended for wearing American Flag shirts to school on Cinco De Mayo, so I guess anything is possible.
 
2013-03-13 11:31:42 AM

Honest Bender: Why would such a ban exist in the first place?


"And on the 7th day, God squatted over England, and out came Ireland."
 
2013-03-13 11:31:44 AM
I fail to understand how such a ban isn't blatantly unconstitutional.
 
2013-03-13 11:33:23 AM
It ain't Rock Ridge, that's for sure.
www.ladyofthecake.com
 
2013-03-13 11:41:18 AM
www.wikitree.com
 
2013-03-13 11:43:22 AM
 
2013-03-13 11:43:34 AM
What part of the First Amendment do these Floridiots not understand?
 
2013-03-13 11:43:42 AM
Its not New York. They are more about taking freedoms ths century than giving any back.
 
2013-03-13 11:45:02 AM

Honest Bender: Why would such a ban exist in the first place?


Rich people.
 
2013-03-13 11:48:13 AM

mikaloyd: Its not New York. They are more about taking freedoms ths century than giving any back.


yawn.

I was amazed at how many Irish/Italian flags I saw when I worked in New Jersey.  My SO's grandparents and their next door neighbors are all Irish immigrants and they don't feel the need to declare that on their front lawn.

/shrug
 
2013-03-13 11:49:26 AM

Honest Bender: Why would such a ban exist in the first place?


Because some people think that mindless nationalism combined with a refusal to think critically should be a virtue.
 
2013-03-13 11:49:36 AM
All sorts of towns have laws about signs, particularly if they are blocking sidewalks.  That's what this ordinance was about, and because Americans will be Americans, they had to put in a special clause allowing you to block the sidewalk with an American flag and someone blocked the sidewalk with a Greek flag and when they cited him he complained about the Irish flag because the officer citing him didn't understand how to explain to him that it was about the sidewalk not the flag.  The town is fixing it.

There, did anyone else not read the article?
 
2013-03-13 11:50:54 AM

Honest Bender: Why would such a ban exist in the first place?


Wellon Dowd: I fail to understand how such a ban isn't blatantly unconstitutional.


Rent Party: Honest Bender: Why would such a ban exist in the first place?

Because America, fark Yeah!  And Jesus, too.

The Irish flag flys right next to the US flag in front of my house every day.   I defy the state to come and tell me I have to take it down.



kiwimoogle84: Honest Bender: Why would such a ban exist in the first place?

This. Seems bizarre to me that a flag can be BANNED. Although, then again, I remember that absurd news story about a few kids getting suspended for wearing American Flag shirts to school on Cinco De Mayo, so I guess anything is possible.



FTFA:
The obscure ordinance was passed in the 1990s as part of a previous administration's attempt to clean up an unsightly commercial area, according to Marks. The language was ambiguous, however, and the ordinance banned [ALL] flags, but carved out an exemption for the U.S. flag...The ordinance was little noticed until a Greek restaurant was cited for flying a Greek flag that partially blocked a sidewalk.

This has zero to do with "banning" any country's flags, and is a perfect example of people screaming "I'm oppressed!" for no good reason.
 
2013-03-13 11:52:34 AM

skinbubble: Just in time for St. Patrick's Day


Honest Bender: Why would such a ban exist in the first place?


what, RTFA?!? no way right?
 
2013-03-13 11:52:44 AM

Honest Bender: Why would such a ban exist in the first place?


TFA explains it... Appearantly it was a poorly written ordinance which banned the display of flags in order to enact some kind of cleanup effort for an unsightly shopping district.

One of the stores displayed a greek flag that obstructed a sidewalk creating a hazard for pedestrians - which I can understand I guess.

How much you wanna bet the person that complained to get this business a citation was the greek guy?
 
2013-03-13 11:52:44 AM
FTFA: City officials have proposed amending the ordinance to allow the flying of national flags, but the revision process requires a couple of readings and cannot be finished until April or May, she said. In the meantime, enforcement has been suspended.


And also FTFA:"Everyone can fly their flag as long as it's not interfering with a right of way or creating a safety hazard," she said.


I think I just solved the issue of the wording of the law.
 
2013-03-13 11:56:27 AM
deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com
"Look out Itchy! He's Irish!"
 
2013-03-13 11:59:08 AM
I wanna know if, under that ordinance, technically the state and even town flags would be restricted in a similar manner?
 
2013-03-13 12:00:20 PM
I want to start an Irish Defamation League. 

Filthy cabbage men.

/the true mud people
 
2013-03-13 12:01:53 PM

BojanglesPaladin: This has zero to do with "banning" any country's flags, and is a perfect example of people screaming "I'm oppressed!" for no good reason.


They explicitly excluded the American flag from the definition of "flag," so that makes it about the nationality of the flag. If it was just about flags then there is no reason to exclude specified ones.

Section 17-2 of the Atlantic Beach, Florida, Code of Ordinances:

Flag: A piece of cloth or similar material having a distinctive size, color, and design used as a symbol, standard, signal and other similar items of recognition and may include insignias of governmental, religious, charitable, fraternal or other organizations. Any flag and pole or attachment that frequently holds a flag shall be deemed a permanent flag. This definition of flag shall not include the flag of the United States of America.
 
2013-03-13 12:13:41 PM
I bet it was rainbow flags that pissed people off.
 
GBB [TotalFark]
2013-03-13 12:23:53 PM

Wellon Dowd: BojanglesPaladin: This has zero to do with "banning" any country's flags, and is a perfect example of people screaming "I'm oppressed!" for no good reason.

They explicitly excluded the American flag from the definition of "flag," so that makes it about the nationality of the flag. If it was just about flags then there is no reason to exclude specified ones.

Section 17-2 of the Atlantic Beach, Florida, Code of Ordinances:

Flag: A piece of cloth or similar material having a distinctive size, color, and design used as a symbol, standard, signal and other similar items of recognition and may include insignias of governmental, religious, charitable, fraternal or other organizations. Any flag and pole or attachment that frequently holds a flag shall be deemed a permanent flag. This definition of flag shall not include the flag of the United States of America.


Yeah, this doesn't trample on the 1st amendment, no way.
/sarc
 
2013-03-13 12:28:40 PM

GBB: Wellon Dowd: BojanglesPaladin: This has zero to do with "banning" any country's flags, and is a perfect example of people screaming "I'm oppressed!" for no good reason.

They explicitly excluded the American flag from the definition of "flag," so that makes it about the nationality of the flag. If it was just about flags then there is no reason to exclude specified ones.

Section 17-2 of the Atlantic Beach, Florida, Code of Ordinances:

Flag: A piece of cloth or similar material having a distinctive size, color, and design used as a symbol, standard, signal and other similar items of recognition and may include insignias of governmental, religious, charitable, fraternal or other organizations. Any flag and pole or attachment that frequently holds a flag shall be deemed a permanent flag. This definition of flag shall not include the flag of the United States of America.

Yeah, this doesn't trample on the 1st amendment, no way.
/sarc


They could say it's for safety.
 
2013-03-13 12:38:46 PM
BojanglesPaladin:
The obscure ordinance was passed in the 1990s as part of a previous administration's attempt to clean up an unsightly commercial area, according to Marks. The language was ambiguous, however, and the ordinance banned [ALL] flags, but carved out an exemption for the U.S. flag...The ordinance was little noticed until a Greek restaurant was cited for flying a Greek flag that partially blocked a sidewalk.

This has zero to do with "banning" any country's flags, and is a perfect example of people screaming "I'm oppressed!" for no good reason.


So, a town ordinance thinking clearly enough to carve out an exemption could only think far enough to carve out an exemption for one national flag, and no others.

No, probably not a Jingoistic bone in that there body of patriots, I'm sure.
 
2013-03-13 01:18:33 PM

Rent Party: BojanglesPaladin:
The obscure ordinance was passed in the 1990s as part of a previous administration's attempt to clean up an unsightly commercial area, according to Marks. The language was ambiguous, however, and the ordinance banned [ALL] flags, but carved out an exemption for the U.S. flag...The ordinance was little noticed until a Greek restaurant was cited for flying a Greek flag that partially blocked a sidewalk.

This has zero to do with "banning" any country's flags, and is a perfect example of people screaming "I'm oppressed!" for no good reason.

So, a town ordinance thinking clearly enough to carve out an exemption could only think far enough to carve out an exemption for one national flag, and no others.

No, probably not a Jingoistic bone in that there body of patriots, I'm sure.



Rainbow flags.
 
2013-03-13 02:11:07 PM

kiwimoogle84: Honest Bender: Why would such a ban exist in the first place?

This. Seems bizarre to me that a flag can be BANNED. Although, then again, I remember that absurd news story about a few kids getting suspended for wearing American Flag shirts to school on Cinco De Mayo, so I guess anything is possible.


Doubly so considering the car dealership in Tampa won their fight to fly their giant Rebel Flag years ago when they tried to make them take it down as it is private property...

southernnationalist.com
 
2013-03-13 02:23:57 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Rent Party: BojanglesPaladin:
The obscure ordinance was passed in the 1990s as part of a previous administration's attempt to clean up an unsightly commercial area, according to Marks. The language was ambiguous, however, and the ordinance banned [ALL] flags, but carved out an exemption for the U.S. flag...The ordinance was little noticed until a Greek restaurant was cited for flying a Greek flag that partially blocked a sidewalk.

This has zero to do with "banning" any country's flags, and is a perfect example of people screaming "I'm oppressed!" for no good reason.

So, a town ordinance thinking clearly enough to carve out an exemption could only think far enough to carve out an exemption for one national flag, and no others.

No, probably not a Jingoistic bone in that there body of patriots, I'm sure.


Rainbow flags.


Heterosexual Jingoists, no less, as Jesus intended.
 
2013-03-13 02:43:57 PM
Oh, btw, Happy St. Paddy's day.
www.beertripper.com
 
2013-03-13 07:52:42 PM
EWreckedSean
that isn't a car dealership it is a civil war memorial along 275 and 4
 
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