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(Guardian)   Iran to sue Hollywood over its unrealistic portrayal in Argo. Told to get in line behind William Wallace, the 300 Spartans, the Mayans and absolutely everyone involved in WWII   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 58
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2013-03-13 02:16:03 PM

Reaperman: MylesHeartVodak: Mendez was the document forger, and the real reason why the hostages departure took a few weeks was because the passports provided had the wrong dates on them.  Mendez had to correct them by hand.

There was a second CIA operative involved and on the scene, known only by the name of Julio.   So, what did role did Julio play?  Who was he?  I'm guessing that there is even more to the story that we will never know.

Wrong. The passports were fine and it had nothing to do with the delay. It was the entry visas that were incorrect and that was discovered at the moment. These had to be corrected by Mendez.


Aren't visas usually stamped in the passport? That's the way most countries do it. So if the visa dates were wrong then it was dates in the passport that were wrong?
 
2013-03-13 02:45:25 PM

Flint Ironstag: Reaperman: MylesHeartVodak: Mendez was the document forger, and the real reason why the hostages departure took a few weeks was because the passports provided had the wrong dates on them.  Mendez had to correct them by hand.

There was a second CIA operative involved and on the scene, known only by the name of Julio.   So, what did role did Julio play?  Who was he?  I'm guessing that there is even more to the story that we will never know.

Wrong. The passports were fine and it had nothing to do with the delay. It was the entry visas that were incorrect and that was discovered at the moment. These had to be corrected by Mendez.

Aren't visas usually stamped in the passport? That's the way most countries do it. So if the visa dates were wrong then it was dates in the passport that were wrong?


No.  Frequenly visas are papers/pages stapled into a passport.
 
2013-03-13 03:19:27 PM

Flint Ironstag: Reaperman: MylesHeartVodak: Mendez was the document forger, and the real reason why the hostages departure took a few weeks was because the passports provided had the wrong dates on them.  Mendez had to correct them by hand.

There was a second CIA operative involved and on the scene, known only by the name of Julio.   So, what did role did Julio play?  Who was he?  I'm guessing that there is even more to the story that we will never know.

Wrong. The passports were fine and it had nothing to do with the delay. It was the entry visas that were incorrect and that was discovered at the moment. These had to be corrected by Mendez.

Aren't visas usually stamped in the passport? That's the way most countries do it. So if the visa dates were wrong then it was dates in the passport that were wrong?



Don't know the exact details but apparently when you arrived in Iran, you had fill in a form (visa). There were two copies - say one was yellow and one was white. The white (original) stayed with immigration and the yellow you were to keep. When you left the country, you had to hand in the yellow copy back to immigration. In the case of the six Americans, there wasn't a white copy since one was never actually created - at least not as Canadians. The concern was when the Americans were leaving and had to hand in the fake visa, the immigration officer may have decided to try and marry-up the two copies of the visa. And this is why the issue of the date being entered incorrectly was such a concern since it would have caused the immigration officer to certainly try and look for the non-existent original.
 
2013-03-13 03:38:45 PM

Insatiable Jesus: Hollywood, an arm of Israeli media.


And the Republican party isn't?
 
2013-03-13 03:47:42 PM

Mugato: Insatiable Jesus: Hollywood, an arm of Israeli media.

And the Republican party isn't?


The GOP's just a patsy for the reverse vampires acting at the behest of the Rand Corporation...
 
2013-03-13 03:58:08 PM

Reaperman: Flint Ironstag: Reaperman: MylesHeartVodak: Mendez was the document forger, and the real reason why the hostages departure took a few weeks was because the passports provided had the wrong dates on them.  Mendez had to correct them by hand.

There was a second CIA operative involved and on the scene, known only by the name of Julio.   So, what did role did Julio play?  Who was he?  I'm guessing that there is even more to the story that we will never know.

Wrong. The passports were fine and it had nothing to do with the delay. It was the entry visas that were incorrect and that was discovered at the moment. These had to be corrected by Mendez.

Aren't visas usually stamped in the passport? That's the way most countries do it. So if the visa dates were wrong then it was dates in the passport that were wrong?


Don't know the exact details but apparently when you arrived in Iran, you had fill in a form (visa). There were two copies - say one was yellow and one was white. The white (original) stayed with immigration and the yellow you were to keep. When you left the country, you had to hand in the yellow copy back to immigration. In the case of the six Americans, there wasn't a white copy since one was never actually created - at least not as Canadians. The concern was when the Americans were leaving and had to hand in the fake visa, the immigration officer may have decided to try and marry-up the two copies of the visa. And this is why the issue of the date being entered incorrectly was such a concern since it would have caused the immigration officer to certainly try and look for the non-existent original.


Surely they would have tried to match them up no matter what the date? I could see the date being wrong if it contradicted their cover story, scouting for a movie. An entry date years before would be wrong because it doesn't take years to scout for a movie location, while yesterdays date wouldn't be enough time.

Either way, stamped in or stapled, to say "the dates in the passport were wrong" to mean "the dates on the visa stamped/stapled in the passport were wrong" is not really wrong. "The passport" includes visas stamped and/or stapled into it.
 
2013-03-13 05:41:38 PM
Mossadegh go by without some kind of Iranian-related acrimony?
 
2013-03-13 09:21:52 PM
Anyone demanding respect automatically strips away what little they believe they have.
 
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