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(CBS DC)   New poll says only 30% of Americans trust the government, 70% have more faith in the relative of that deposed Nigerian prince   (washington.cbslocal.com) divider line 42
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2013-03-13 08:44:20 AM
I'm in an abusive relationship with the government.  I don't like it one bit, but I stay for the kid.
 
2013-03-13 09:36:46 AM
Wait, I thought Obama WAS that guy.
 
2013-03-13 09:36:47 AM
Hey, subby, maybe you should watch this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation_(film)

If government is so bad, would you really want to live in a world run entirely by corporations?
 
2013-03-13 09:39:41 AM
Do I think they are intentionally farking thing up? No (except of the Tea Brigade).
Do I think they are farking things up through incompetence? Yes.
Do I think this is any different from any other point in history? No.
 
2013-03-13 09:40:03 AM
Same as it ever was.

Americans are self reliant...until they're sick, broke, hungry, or if they get robbed, or if there are potholes in the street.

Americans are conservative...until you explain individual issues to them, and remove the dirty "liberal" tag.

Americans are religious...when they're not consuming tons of food, booze, and porn.

Americans don't trust the government...until they blame it for every problem in their lives and expect government to fix it.

As a people, we Americans are very full of sh*t.
 
2013-03-13 09:43:36 AM
Yeah, I'm sure that poll is accurate. No, something doesn't seem right here. Doesn't pass the smell test. If this poll was true it would have at least 51% of "Americans" trusting the government based on the ALLEGED "results" of the election. What is Pew's agenda here? Probably funded by the government to make themselves look bad to lull us into a false sense of insecurity.
 
2013-03-13 09:48:21 AM
I can't stand it when they refer to "the Government", or even "the Federal Government" like it's one thing. I presume that dissatisfaction with the Legislative Branch has lead the downturn since 2008.
 
2013-03-13 09:51:45 AM

ComicBookGuy: Hey, subby, maybe you should watch this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation_(film)

If government is so bad, would you really want to live in a world run entirely by corporations?


Because that is indeed the only fathomable alternative.
 
2013-03-13 09:56:29 AM
I trust the government to make every problem they try to tackle worse.
 
2013-03-13 09:57:59 AM
Why so high?
 
2013-03-13 10:01:50 AM
Maybe "trust" is the wrong word. It should be "expect," as in, we expect government to do what we elected it to do, and if it isn't, then we shouldn't be satisified.
 
2013-03-13 10:05:19 AM
It's a government of the people elected by the people.  Do the people have no faith in themselves?
 
2013-03-13 10:06:37 AM
When the public typically only has 2 pro-corporate parties to vote for, yes things do suck a lot.
 
2013-03-13 10:08:34 AM
I have to ask if you don't trust your government then why do you keep electing these assholes? Or maybe the truth is that we don't trust other states representatives to do what is in our interest collectively as a nation.
 
2013-03-13 10:17:41 AM
This is the biggest problem Democrats have.  As much as they can win the battle of looking better, they're still trying to sell government when nobody wants government.  They need to win the message battle of whether or not government can help.
 
2013-03-13 10:22:37 AM

Rapmaster2000: It's a government of the people elected by the people.  Do the people have no faith in themselves?


With turnout usually hanging around the mid 50s in peak multi-billion-dollar "oh God this time is the most important election ever AGAIN" elections and far far lower than that in the off season most Americans don't have any meaningful part in electing their government. Even amino those that do vote the Church of the Lesser Evil holds unchallenged dominion over Democrats and is a major force for Republicans.
Tl;dr no one shows up and the ones who do vote for Mussolini because any vote not for Mussolini is a vote for Hitler.
 
2013-03-13 10:23:16 AM

Dafatone: This is the biggest problem Democrats have.  As much as they can win the battle of looking better, they're still trying to sell government when nobody wants government.  They need to win the message battle of whether or not government can help.


That's a bit like trying to convince people you can win a three legged race when your partner is sitting on the ground throwing a temper tantrum and refusing to run.
 
2013-03-13 10:25:02 AM
The USA has the best government that money can buy.
 
2013-03-13 10:34:29 AM

Rapmaster2000: It's a government of the people elected by the people.  Do the people have no faith in themselves?


Yes. The people have no faith in themselves.

No one trusts ANYONE anymore. Everybody else is an idiot. Disdain for the masses and distrust of anyone with specialized knowledge means that people are rejecting the very precepts of Democracy. Instead we have a nation of three million emperors who know better than everyone else.

What I'm trying to say is, culturally, we've slowly made the concepts of democracy unpalatable.
 
2013-03-13 10:41:33 AM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Dafatone: This is the biggest problem Democrats have.  As much as they can win the battle of looking better, they're still trying to sell government when nobody wants government.  They need to win the message battle of whether or not government can help.

That's a bit like trying to convince people you can win a three legged race when your partner is sitting on the ground throwing a temper tantrum and refusing to run.


It's tough.  By sitting on the ground, the Republicans reinforce their message.
 
2013-03-13 10:47:20 AM
I trust the government.  I trust them to do stupid things, waste tons of money, enact inane laws, and to be a public nuisance.
 
2013-03-13 10:59:52 AM
Ned Stark- Because that is indeed the only fathomable alternative.. I said that...where?
 
2013-03-13 11:02:22 AM

Rapmaster2000: It's a government of the people elected by the people.  Do the people have no faith in themselves?


I think people are inherently counter-productive in large groups, and the larger the group, the more bass-ackwards things end up being.
 
2013-03-13 11:06:06 AM

Slaves2Darkness: I have to ask if you don't trust your government then why do you keep electing these assholes? Or maybe the truth is that we don't trust other states representatives to do what is in our interest collectively as a nation.


Yeah we should have elected Giant Douche instead of Turd Sandwhich.
 
2013-03-13 11:24:41 AM
"Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.'"  -- George Carlin
 
2013-03-13 11:34:43 AM

Dafatone: This is the biggest problem Democrats have.  As much as they can win the battle of looking better, they're still trying to sell government when nobody wants government.  They need to win the message battle of whether or not government can help.


Everybody wants government as soon as government is taken away.

And of course some people hallucinate that corporations are perfect and never make mistakes and never waste resources and never hire cronies...
 
2013-03-13 12:13:46 PM
I should really be 99% of the people don't trust "the government" since "the government" is currently working for the top 1%.
 
2013-03-13 12:40:59 PM
Ever notice that everybody that's able to post on a site like Fark is smarter than everybody who's ever been elected, especially at the federal level?

Cheers.
 
2013-03-13 12:41:58 PM
"The government" is a collection of many different branches that are constantly changing. Do I trust the White House? Largely. The Senate? A lot less so. The House? Far less so.

Etc.
 
2013-03-13 01:28:34 PM

Rapmaster2000: It's a government of the people elected by the people.  Do the people have no faith in themselves?


Except it isn't really.  It's a government of the best choice (and that's when things go RIGHT) between the two nominees corporate America and the political elite allows us to vote on.
 
2013-03-13 01:33:04 PM
I trust the government as much as I can double check what they are saying.

I trust Democrats somewhat. They mean well even if they don't always accomplish what they're going for.

I don't trust Republicans at all. They don't mean well and if they don't accomplish what they're going for they look for ways to cheat.

I trust Independents on a case by case basis... which is to say some and not at all.

I do not trust Tea Party members at all. They're a bunch of crazy racist asshats and have no good intentions.

I do not trust Libertarians. They're loons and good portion of them are just Republicans who like drugs.
 
2013-03-13 02:03:34 PM
it's safe to say that governments and corporations are both the problem here.
 
2013-03-13 02:15:09 PM

Emposter: Rapmaster2000: It's a government of the people elected by the people.  Do the people have no faith in themselves?

Except it isn't really.  It's a government of the best choice (and that's when things go RIGHT) between the two nominees corporate America and the political elite allows us to vote on.


Said like someone who's never voted in a primary or a local election.
 
2013-03-13 02:18:08 PM

ComicBookGuy: Hey, subby, maybe you should watch this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation_(film)

If government is so bad, would you really want to live in a world run entirely by corporations?


How do you have a corporation without a government?
 
2013-03-13 02:30:27 PM

The Name: Emposter: Rapmaster2000: It's a government of the people elected by the people.  Do the people have no faith in themselves?

Except it isn't really.  It's a government of the best choice (and that's when things go RIGHT) between the two nominees corporate America and the political elite allows us to vote on.

Said like someone who's never voted in a primary or a local election.


I have both, thanks.  I wasn't referring to local elections, and it holds true for primaries.  Primaries showcase a few more candidates, but all they really do is add a couple more shills and a few "outside the box" candidates to the mix that don't stand a chance of getting elected, no matter how good (or bad) their positions are.  Even then, they're still all subsidized by the same people.  When a good candidate manages to slip through the massive barriers to entry in our elections, they just use is as a soapbox, because even the candidates know they don't have a chance.
 
2013-03-13 03:03:57 PM
This wouldn't have happened if Romney won.
 
2013-03-13 03:05:14 PM

Marcus Aurelius: The USA has the best a government that money can buy.


Fixed?
 
2013-03-13 03:23:16 PM

Emposter: Rapmaster2000: It's a government of the people elected by the people.  Do the people have no faith in themselves?

Except it isn't really.  It's a government of the best choice (and that's when things go RIGHT) between the two nominees corporate America and the political elite allows us to vote on.


That's because you're too lazy to PICK. ANOTHER. NAME.

/Yep, I'm comin' back to that ol' chestnut again.
 
2013-03-13 03:43:56 PM

IlGreven: Emposter: Rapmaster2000: It's a government of the people elected by the people.  Do the people have no faith in themselves?

Except it isn't really.  It's a government of the best choice (and that's when things go RIGHT) between the two nominees corporate America and the political elite allows us to vote on.

That's because you're too lazy to PICK. ANOTHER. NAME.

/Yep, I'm comin' back to that ol' chestnut again.


Oh, sure, people could write in the candidate they want, and accomplish nothing.  Or, hey, maybe they could get enough votes to actually show up in the results, and maybe cost the candidate they would have otherwise voted for the election, giving it to some nutjob who's even worse.

I'd love for a third party candidate to win a national election (and not the few "oh, I'm not a D/R, I just caucus with them" independents we currently have...or, hell, even just more of them, milquetoast though they are).  Even better, I'd love a proportional system that wasn't designed to keep third parties out.  I'm a member of Americans Elect, and I'd love for it to accomplish something, though I know it won't.  But how about we stay within the bounds of reality here, mmkay?
 
2013-03-13 05:17:59 PM
Um... the fundamental design of our government is explicitly predicated on the fact that our government is incurably untrustworthy in every way, and needs to be set against itself in order to trick a set of flawed and stupid people into accidentally serving the interests of the state.

If you  do trust the government, then you need to go back to third-grade civics to learn about checks and balances, or maybe re-read the federalist/anti-federalist papers or have a look at the constitution.  It's like the core tenet of constitutional democracy.
 
2013-03-13 08:30:06 PM

Brian_of_Nazareth: Ever notice that everybody that's able to post on a site like Fark is smarter than everybody who's ever been elected, especially at the federal level?

Cheers.


Yep. Makes me wonder why they spend their time biatching on Fark instead of using their "genius" minds to fix the country.
 
2013-03-14 05:28:01 AM

IlGreven: Emposter: Rapmaster2000: It's a government of the people elected by the people.  Do the people have no faith in themselves?

Except it isn't really.  It's a government of the best choice (and that's when things go RIGHT) between the two nominees corporate America and the political elite allows us to vote on.

That's because you're too lazy to PICK. ANOTHER. NAME.

/Yep, I'm comin' back to that ol' chestnut again.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo
 
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