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(The Atlantic)   Kentucky Democrats are afraid Ashley Judd really is running for the Senate. The Blue Devils may care   (theatlantic.com) divider line 153
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2013-03-13 10:04:44 AM  
Why should they worry? It's not like any of them would win the seat. Give the lady a chance.
 
2013-03-13 10:05:07 AM  
So, Kentucky Democrats, like the governor who is about to legalize religious discrimination and gave a huge tax break to the makers of the Bedrock Educational Park and Snake Oil Bottling Company, don't like Ashley Judd? She has my vote.

/And, if "Mama He's Crazy" isn't her campaign song, she isn't trying to win.
 
2013-03-13 10:12:41 AM  
I'd send her a chunk of money just for the lulz.
 
2013-03-13 10:13:32 AM  
So Kentucky Demoncraps are going to retreat into their shell like scared turtles? You're taking jobs away from hard working American senaturtles, you POS libtards.
 
2013-03-13 10:15:47 AM  
Oh good, Kentucky Blue Dog concern trolling.  How unexpected.
 
2013-03-13 10:15:53 AM  
In before the "Ashley Judd is retarded" crowd!
 
2013-03-13 10:18:00 AM  

Hebalo: Why should they worry? It's not like any of them would win the seat. Give the lady a chance.


That's exactly it. The alternative is likely a blue dog democrat whose strategy will be to disagree with Obama on most issues and agree with McConnell. They'll get crushed and democrats will wonder what went so wrong.
 
2013-03-13 10:18:09 AM  
Can someone let me know whether corn dogs are a popular snack in Kentucky?

Um...no reason.
 
2013-03-13 10:25:11 AM  
She almost certainly won't win.  Then again, neither will any other Democrat.  Judd, however, brings two advantages to the table (besides her fantastic tits).

1.  She'll raise a metric farkton of cash.   The GOP will have to spend a hell of a lot more money than they would otherwise just to hold a safe seat.  That's money they can't spend elsewhere on competitive races.

2.  Her name recognition means that the race will be a national story.  When some Kentucky state senator calls her a "Hollywood Whore" we'll have 2014's Todd Akin.  Some dumbass local level pol won't be able to help himself and he'll be yet another albatross to hang on the necks of Republicans all over the country.

In short, that seat is probably a lost cause.  McConnell only won it by 3 points last time around, but that was in 2006 when the Dems won everything.  If they couldn't wrest it away from him then they sure won't now.  Judd gives them some advantages nationally that they won't have with any other candidate.
 
2013-03-13 10:26:21 AM  
Comedy gold.

Especially when she equates coal mining to rape. Hell, she equates everything to rape.
 
2013-03-13 10:26:45 AM  
"She's gonna have a tough row to hoe," said Jim Cauley

Then it's a good thing that she's one tough ho.
 
2013-03-13 10:27:27 AM  

barneyfifesbullet: Comedy gold.

Especially when she equates coal mining to rape. Hell, she equates everything to rape.


She must really like rape.
 
2013-03-13 10:30:05 AM  
Last night on Bill O'Reilly, he obliquely implied that her womanly duty was to produce children, and if she wants to adopt she should get on with it.

This is the same jackass who gave Bristol Palin a pass for birthing a bastard because he agreed with her mom's politics.
 
2013-03-13 10:36:26 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: barneyfifesbullet: Comedy gold.

Especially when she equates coal mining to rape. Hell, she equates everything to rape.

She must really like rape.


Which is just irresponsible of her, really. She'll end up pregnant that way.
 
2013-03-13 10:37:47 AM  
So, that's too bad, for all 3 of them.
 
2013-03-13 10:37:55 AM  
"Electing Ashley Judd gets a Republican Legislature elected. That's what I see at stake here. Your perspective is different if you're in New York or Los Angeles. They don't live here. We do. Judd's candidacy makes it seamlessly easy to Obama-ize this election," one Kentucky Democratic strategist said.

F*ck you right in your blue dog ass. Stand by your President. Own the sh*t he's fought lunatics to get accomplished.

This sh*t right here, people. That's why Democrats are considered wimps.
 
2013-03-13 10:38:56 AM  

EyeballKid: So, Kentucky Democrats, like the governor who is about to legalize religious discrimination and gave a huge tax break to the makers of the Bedrock Educational Park and Snake Oil Bottling Company, don't like Ashley Judd? She has my vote.


This; Kentucky Dems are worried because if she were to run, A LOT of outside money would be coming her way and not necessarily theirs.

/And, if "Mama He's Crazy" isn't her campaign song, she isn't trying to win.

That and I hope she runs a "What do I have to lose?" style of campaign that bewilders Republicans in and out of the state.

/Not that hard to do but...
//Republicans having kittens over her campaign would warm the cockles of my heart.
 
2013-03-13 10:40:21 AM  
"She's gonna have a tough row to hoe," said Jim Cauley, who ran Governor Steve Beshear's 2007 campaign and also worked on President Obama's 2004 Senate campaign. "She doesn't fit the damn state. That's her problem. I don't think she fits the voters of the state of Kentucky."

This is true. She is not a hick-ass farmer talking about hoeing rows. She does not fit the state because she is not obese or racist, and, worst of all, she is a woman with strong personal belief which flies in the face of the "men wear the pants" attitude the south is renown for.

Uphill battle? Sure. But running regressive candidates just so you can win is not progress.
 
2013-03-13 10:40:56 AM  

barneyfifesbullet: Comedy gold.

Especially when she equates coal mining to rape. Hell, she equates everything to rape.


If it's a legitimate mining operation, the Earth has ways to shut that whole thing down.
 
2013-03-13 10:41:18 AM  

Mentat: Oh good, Kentucky Blue Dog concern trolling.  How unexpected.


And unfortunately, they're also correct.
 
2013-03-13 10:46:59 AM  
But how has McConnell done on his one campaign promise from 2006, more earmarks for the state?
 
2013-03-13 10:48:23 AM  
I'd rather Ashley Judd doesn't run but it's more a matter of the same problem as Rand Paul -- I feel like some small debt of public service is owed before you ask to run for national politics. Run for city council if you have to but atleast prove to me you have some experience at being a public servant.
 
2013-03-13 10:49:15 AM  

uksocal: But how has McConnell done on his one campaign promise from 2006, more earmarks for the state?


Remember when he called it "government waste?" Oh wait, he was talking about money that doesn't go to him...uh, I mean, um, that is, the STATE! Yes, yes, the state, THAT'S where the money goes, no need to investigate, nosirreebob.

/Mitch McConnell, the hooker with a heart of gold
 
2013-03-13 10:51:43 AM  

Wasteland: Mentat: Oh good, Kentucky Blue Dog concern trolling.  How unexpected.

And unfortunately, they're also correct.


When your state's Democrats are nearly indistinguishable from Republicans because of sh*t like this:

EyeballKid: So, Kentucky Democrats, like the governor who is about to legalize religious discrimination and gave a huge tax break to the makers of the Bedrock Educational Park and Snake Oil Bottling Company, don't like Ashley Judd? She has my vote.


You deserve to lose your majority.

The National DNC is aiming at either a stalemate, a small gain for Dems or small losses for the GOP in '14. They also want Sen. McConnell to bleed money to keep his seat. They want it to be a pyrrhic victory for him. There simply isn't going to be a big sweep in Congress coming soon. So Democrats have to play the "death of a thousand little cuts" game. They see the splitting happening within the Republican Party and want to foment it.

If anything it's an extension of the Obama Era of Democratic politics. The art of politics as trolling.
 
2013-03-13 10:52:38 AM  
I'll admit I haven't been following this Judd thing all that closely, but has the woman given any indication at all she's interested in running by word or deed?

I keep seeing things like in TFA, "As she gets closer to an announcement."  Of what?  Running, not running?
 
2013-03-13 10:55:47 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: I'll admit I haven't been following this Judd thing all that closely, but has the woman given any indication at all she's interested in running by word or deed?

I keep seeing things like in TFA, "As she gets closer to an announcement."  Of what?  Running, not running?


I'm not sure, but the amount of pants-shiatting people in power have done at the thought of her running is greatly amusing,
 
2013-03-13 10:58:38 AM  

PapaChester: "She's gonna have a tough row to hoe," said Jim Cauley, who ran Governor Steve Beshear's 2007 campaign and also worked on President Obama's 2004 Senate campaign. "She doesn't fit the damn state. That's her problem. I don't think she fits the voters of the state of Kentucky."

This is true. She is not a hick-ass farmer talking about hoeing rows. She does not fit the state because she is not obese or racist, and, worst of all, she is a woman with strong personal belief which flies in the face of the "men wear the pants" attitude the south is renown for.

Uphill battle? Sure. But running regressive candidates just so you can win is not progress.



Grimes is regressive?  On what issues?  Hell, her biggest policy push to date has been voting-rights expansion.  Recent polling suggests she also has better odds that Judd of knocking off the Turtle... assuming she's willing to run.  (Which isn't a given, as there are easier ways for her to move up in politics than going head-to-head with McConnell.)

Here's a hint, folks:  It may be an uphill battle.  But writing off the state as a whole is not a strategy to win that battle.
 
2013-03-13 11:00:06 AM  

Sail The Wide Accountancy: I'd send her a chunk of money just for the lulz.


I am right there with you
 
2013-03-13 11:00:36 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: I'll admit I haven't been following this Judd thing all that closely, but has the woman given any indication at all she's interested in running by word or deed?

I keep seeing things like in TFA, "As she gets closer to an announcement."  Of what?  Running, not running?


If she truly wasn't interested in running, she could have ended the speculation with a single phone call.
Hell, she wouldn't even have needed to make the call, she could have had her agent release a statement.
 
2013-03-13 11:03:11 AM  

Wasteland: Recent polling suggests she also has better odds that Judd of knocking off the Turtle... assuming she's willing to run.


We're talking about an election that's still ~18 months away. 18 months out, 2008 was Hillary in a landslide (over 9iu11iani), so you'll forgive me if I don't entirely trust the polling just yet.

That said, I'd like to read some of that; got a link?
 
2013-03-13 11:04:00 AM  

Krieghund: Shrugging Atlas: I'll admit I haven't been following this Judd thing all that closely, but has the woman given any indication at all she's interested in running by word or deed?

I keep seeing things like in TFA, "As she gets closer to an announcement."  Of what?  Running, not running?

If she truly wasn't interested in running, she could have ended the speculation with a single phone call.
Hell, she wouldn't even have needed to make the call, she could have had her agent release a statement.


I am just fine with the continued trolling of the GOP. Let them continue to spend money making commercials about people who aren't even running.
 
2013-03-13 11:05:20 AM  

verbaltoxin: If anything it's an extension of the Obama Era of Democratic politics. The art of politics as trolling.


That's about all that CAN be done, since the whole country is gerrymandered within an inch of its life.  Unfortunately, elections just don't matter as much as the money that goes into them anymore.
 
2013-03-13 11:07:30 AM  

EyeballKid: uksocal: But how has McConnell done on his one campaign promise from 2006, more earmarks for the state?

Remember when he called it "government waste?" Oh wait, he was talking about money that doesn't go to him...uh, I mean, um, that is, the STATE! Yes, yes, the state, THAT'S where the money goes, no need to investigate, nosirreebob.

/Mitch McConnell, the hooker with a heart of gold


Exactly. He got my city over $1M for a fancy new riverfront that is used for one event a year, and occasionally by JimBob and BillyBob fishing off the dock. Not wasteful at all.
 
2013-03-13 11:07:42 AM  

verbaltoxin: Wasteland: Mentat: Oh good, Kentucky Blue Dog concern trolling.  How unexpected.
And unfortunately, they're also correct.

When your state's Democrats are nearly indistinguishable from Republicans because of sh*t like this:
EyeballKid: So, Kentucky Democrats, like the governor who is about to legalize religious discrimination and gave a huge tax break to the makers of the Bedrock Educational Park and Snake Oil Bottling Company, don't like Ashley Judd? She has my vote.
You deserve to lose your majority.

The National DNC is aiming at either a stalemate, a small gain for Dems or small losses for the GOP in '14. They also want Sen. McConnell to bleed money to keep his seat. They want it to be a pyrrhic victory for him. There simply isn't going to be a big sweep in Congress coming soon. So Democrats have to play the "death of a thousand little cuts" game. They see the splitting happening within the Republican Party and want to foment it.
If anything it's an extension of the Obama Era of Democratic politics. The art of politics as trolling.


So the solution to many of the state's Democrats being indistinguishable from Republicans elsewhere is...  to push it further to the right for the good of the national party.  Lovely.
 
2013-03-13 11:08:21 AM  
 
2013-03-13 11:10:27 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: verbaltoxin: If anything it's an extension of the Obama Era of Democratic politics. The art of politics as trolling.

That's about all that CAN be done, since the whole country is gerrymandered within an inch of its life.  Unfortunately, elections just don't matter as much as the money that goes into them anymore.


It's a recycling of 2012 when you look at it: the GOP dumped billions into SuperPACs, ignored math, and lost. They learned nothing. So let's get the actress to run in Kentucky and make them do it again.
 
2013-03-13 11:11:31 AM  
Don't be so certain that Ashley Judd would have no chance of winning. It's entirely possible McConnell is going to get primaried (there have been rumblings) and have to spend a shiat-pot of money to retain the nomination.  And if history is our guide, it's not outside the realm of possibility that McConnell could get primaried and lose to a bat-shiat crazy Angle/O'Donnell/Akin/Mordock teabagger, which with her likely fundraising abilities could put the seat in play.

Granted, it's quite the uphill battle, but it's not impossible.
 
2013-03-13 11:14:34 AM  
"She's gonna have a tough row to hoe," said Jim Cauley, who ran Governor Steve Beshear's 2007 campaign and also worked on President Obama's 2004 Senate campaign. "She doesn't fit the damn state. That's her problem. I don't think she fits the voters of the state of Kentucky."

Considering Beshear lost by 13% when he ran against McConnell, perhaps a new approach is in order?
 
2013-03-13 11:14:34 AM  
McConnell sucks. Ashley unqualified. BUT, I will take her stained blue panties with the UK insignia. I'd rather vote for Uncle Rukus.
 
2013-03-13 11:16:15 AM  

tnpir: Don't be so certain that Ashley Judd would have no chance of winning. It's entirely possible McConnell is going to get primaried (there have been rumblings) and have to spend a shiat-pot of money to retain the nomination.  And if history is our guide, it's not outside the realm of possibility that McConnell could get primaried and lose to a bat-shiat crazy Angle/O'Donnell/Akin/Mordock teabagger, which with her likely fundraising abilities could put the seat in play.

Granted, it's quite the uphill battle, but it's not impossible.


And even if not, it means McConnell would have to spend all that cash on BOTH a primary (which will be a tough slog as the Tea Party probably gets better numbers than Democrats in KY) and general election battle.

To re-elect the Republican Minority Leader. In a heavily red state. With so many more vulnerable seats to defend. Against a well-known and well-financed (and vocal, and good at the PR game) opponent.

// getcha popcorn ready
 
2013-03-13 11:17:06 AM  

Wasteland: verbaltoxin: Wasteland: Mentat: Oh good, Kentucky Blue Dog concern trolling.  How unexpected.
And unfortunately, they're also correct.

When your state's Democrats are nearly indistinguishable from Republicans because of sh*t like this:
EyeballKid: So, Kentucky Democrats, like the governor who is about to legalize religious discrimination and gave a huge tax break to the makers of the Bedrock Educational Park and Snake Oil Bottling Company, don't like Ashley Judd? She has my vote.
You deserve to lose your majority.

The National DNC is aiming at either a stalemate, a small gain for Dems or small losses for the GOP in '14. They also want Sen. McConnell to bleed money to keep his seat. They want it to be a pyrrhic victory for him. There simply isn't going to be a big sweep in Congress coming soon. So Democrats have to play the "death of a thousand little cuts" game. They see the splitting happening within the Republican Party and want to foment it.
If anything it's an extension of the Obama Era of Democratic politics. The art of politics as trolling.

So the solution to many of the state's Democrats being indistinguishable from Republicans elsewhere is...  to push it further to the right for the good of the national party.  Lovely.


To force the party to turn on itself in regional squabbling, distracting it further from a national agenda.

What do you think was the biggest byproduct of the 2012 election? We're seeing it now. Republicans can't even make up their minds on whether to crow about the sequester, or disown it. They promised a battle over the debt ceiling limit this February. It didn't happen. They promised the apocalypse when the payroll tax expired. It didn't happen. They promised increased unemployment. It didn't happen. What did happen was Rand Paul rambling for 13 hours on the Senate floor though. That sure accomplished...nothing. They made a lot of hay about Chuck Hagel, one of their own and now disowned, and filibustered his nomination...until they approved him anyway.

So here we are, with the woman from "Heat" thinking, just thinking about running, and the Kentucky GOP has already paid for anti-Judd ads in Kentucky. They've already opened up the coffers for a woman who hasn't said word one about running.

Democrats realize the reality about Kentucky: winning there is too tough. It's too secured for Republicans. So why not give Republicans the rope and let them hang themselves from it instead?

You don't have to like it. This is how the sausage gets made.
 
2013-03-13 11:17:30 AM  

Wasteland: verbaltoxin: Wasteland: Mentat: Oh good, Kentucky Blue Dog concern trolling.  How unexpected.
And unfortunately, they're also correct.

When your state's Democrats are nearly indistinguishable from Republicans because of sh*t like this:
EyeballKid: So, Kentucky Democrats, like the governor who is about to legalize religious discrimination and gave a huge tax break to the makers of the Bedrock Educational Park and Snake Oil Bottling Company, don't like Ashley Judd? She has my vote.
You deserve to lose your majority.

The National DNC is aiming at either a stalemate, a small gain for Dems or small losses for the GOP in '14. They also want Sen. McConnell to bleed money to keep his seat. They want it to be a pyrrhic victory for him. There simply isn't going to be a big sweep in Congress coming soon. So Democrats have to play the "death of a thousand little cuts" game. They see the splitting happening within the Republican Party and want to foment it.
If anything it's an extension of the Obama Era of Democratic politics. The art of politics as trolling.

So the solution to many of the state's Democrats being indistinguishable from Republicans elsewhere is...  to push it further to the right for the good of the national party.  Lovely.



Well, you know, both sides are bad...
 
2013-03-13 11:17:40 AM  

barneyfifesbullet: Comedy gold.

Especially when she equates coal mining to rape. Hell, she equates everything to rape.


Except unlike the GOPs failure to understand female biology or human emotion whenever they mention rape, saying Mountain Top Removal is rape of the land is actually pretty much spot on. Plunder and despoliation (for instance of land) is actually one of the definitions of the word "rape".
 
2013-03-13 11:18:52 AM  
Blue Devils?

drumman.com
 
2013-03-13 11:18:59 AM  

Hebalo: Why should they worry? It's not like any of them would win the seat. Give the lady a chance.


This.  Ol' Mitch the Turtle is a pretty much juggernaut incumbent.  There hasn't been a credible threat to his re-election in a long, long time.

Yeah, Ashley Judd is pretty liberal with her politics, and Kentucky is a fairly red state.  BUT, Ashley Judd is also probably the only leftist that could get elected in Kentucky.  She's a well known local celebrity.  Probably the only celebrity with any interest in politics that could get elected here.

Yeah, she lives in Tennessee currently, but that's for professional reasons because of Nashville and her family being big in the country music business.  She's hardly a East Coast Liberal coming in as a stranger.  She was raised from a young age in Kentucky and is an alumni of the University of Kentucky. . .and long known to be a big fan of UK sports (frequently seen at UK basketball games, sometimes seen at the UK football games, and she did a very well known calendar/poster for UK hockey where she posed in a hockey jersey and nothing else).  She's got as much Kentucky cred as anybody else, and star power along with that.

Mitch is already spending six-figure sums to air ads in Kentucky trumpeting his record.  He's scared enough, 19 months out, to spend more on ads than your home cost.

In terms of qualifications, in addition to her Bachelors from UK, she's got a Master of Public Administration degree from Harvard, and has been politically active for years, on everything from international issues (she's done humanitarian missions to Africa about the AIDS epidemic) to local (she's an outspoken opponent of mountaintop removal coal mining, which is a big issue in Eastern Kentucky).

Ashley Judd is the Democrats best chance to take Mitch's seat.
 
2013-03-13 11:19:26 AM  

Zasteva: barneyfifesbullet: Comedy gold.

Especially when she equates coal mining to rape. Hell, she equates everything to rape.

Except unlike the GOPs failure to understand female biology or human emotion whenever they mention rape, saying Mountain Top Removal is rape of the land is actually pretty much spot on. Plunder and despoliation (for instance of land) is actually one of the definitions of the word "rape".


The GOP doesn't understand that at least 50% of the population thinks rape is bad.
 
2013-03-13 11:24:07 AM  

EyeballKid: Zasteva: barneyfifesbullet: Comedy gold.

Especially when she equates coal mining to rape. Hell, she equates everything to rape.

Except unlike the GOPs failure to understand female biology or human emotion whenever they mention rape, saying Mountain Top Removal is rape of the land is actually pretty much spot on. Plunder and despoliation (for instance of land) is actually one of the definitions of the word "rape".

The GOP doesn't understand that at least 50% of the population thinks rape is bad.


I clicked "funny" because there's no "sad but true."
 
2013-03-13 11:25:27 AM  
Led by apes in Kentucky.
 
2013-03-13 11:26:31 AM  
She needs to come out in favor of legalization of marijuana to tap into the giant cash reserves of the Kentucky weed cartel
 
2013-03-13 11:26:49 AM  
barneyfifesbullet: comedy gold, assorted derp.

Yes, dear Farkers, hand over your gold to this bridge dweller and watch the property values in this thread plummet like Bristol Palin's head at Chippendale's.
 
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