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(NextGov)   New company to sell countermeasures against surveillance drones. Begun, the Drone Wars have   (nextgov.com) divider line 27
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2013-03-13 06:47:14 AM
I've got a little remote for my Koday video camera that operates on infrared. You can see remote control infrared on most cameras and I wonder how many video camera systems are susceptible to infrared commands...
 
2013-03-13 07:21:43 AM
From the folks who brought you the JFK assignation, the 9/11 conspiracy, FEMA camps and a doctored birth certificate comes a brand new derp fest. DRONES!

Summer, 2013.
 
2013-03-13 07:50:54 AM

wildcardjack: I've got a little remote for my Koday video camera that operates on infrared. You can see remote control infrared on most cameras and I wonder how many video camera systems are susceptible to infrared commands...


That just means it's charging baby!
 
2013-03-13 08:08:01 AM
I have already covered my house in a circus tent. It's drone and satellite and even Blue Thunder proof.
 
2013-03-13 08:10:08 AM
Welp, time to start building that underground lair, so I can hide from the government spy drones.

/shakes tiny fist of rage and laughs maniacally
 
2013-03-13 08:11:50 AM
And in other news, sales of foil have risen dramatically
 
2013-03-13 08:13:19 AM
A company with no history, making claims to provide a solution to a problem that doesn't exist yet, but refuses to provide details or answer questions.


Well, OK, I learned...right, nothing much at all from that article.  How incredibly useful.
 
2013-03-13 08:13:51 AM
Can't you people see that this is a CIA op? Anyone who orders this stuff will go on the list.

This is President Fart Dronebama's America.
 
2013-03-13 08:15:49 AM
www.keltecweapons.com

Yeah, i got it covered.
 
2013-03-13 08:18:32 AM

log_jammin: From the folks who brought you the JFK assignation, the 9/11 conspiracy, FEMA camps and a doctored birth certificate comes a brand new derp fest. DRONES!

Summer, 2013.


I guess you mean his assignation with Marilyn Monroe.  Of course, JFK slept around so much, its hard to say.  But this is hardly a fantasy put out by the conspiracy crowd; his enthusiasm for the opposite sex is pretty well documented.
 
2013-03-13 08:28:06 AM
evergreenterrace.com.au
 
2013-03-13 08:32:19 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-03-13 08:33:01 AM
Well, that would be the wrong thread.
 
2013-03-13 08:34:56 AM

Zeno-25: Well, that would be the wrong thread.


Please don't go.

The drones need you.

They look up to you.
 
2013-03-13 08:52:55 AM
Please let this involve a laser weapon.
 
2013-03-13 09:03:50 AM
Amazing.....the paranoia that is going around with this.  Conspiracy theorists love this stuff.  Yes I'm sure there will be drone for every person watching what you do all day...looking in your windows at night.

Honestly...there are already privacy laws that exist that cover surveillance. Courts have already ruled you have no right to privacy in a public setting.  Start with the privacy laws if you want change.
 
2013-03-13 09:13:52 AM
I figure this will lead to a drone arms race, as unmanned aircraft operators outfit themselves with counter countermeasure systems.

i.imgur.com

My phone is plugged in here. Now this mother-farking trace buster is gonna keep that mother-farker from uh... tracin' our shiat you know what I'm sayin'? And not only does this trace buster keep our buster from tracin' your call but it can also uh... uh... trace the mother-farker that's tracin' your shiat!

All right, so what if they have a trace buster too?

Yo yo yo, that's why I gots this Trace Buster BUSTER. See, when the mother-farker tries to bust your trace with a trace buster. This mother-farker is gonna bust the mother-farking trace buster that's bustin' your... uh...

Trace!
 
2013-03-13 10:39:34 AM

wildcardjack: I've got a little remote for my Koday video camera that operates on infrared. You can see remote control infrared on most cameras and I wonder how many video camera systems are susceptible to infrared commands...


CCD and CMOS sensors are sensitive to IR light an cheap cameras (most webcams) can see in IR light too, because they don't have IR filters.
 
2013-03-13 12:47:56 PM
I smell BS. I am not an expert, but I suspect that anything that interferes with an FAA-approved aircraft is going to be outlawed, even if all it does is mess up the camera feed.

And if you were of a mind to actually take out a drone, a simple shotgun or rifle would be worthless except on takeoff or landing. From what I do know, they operate anywhere from 5,000 to 15,000 feet, well out of range of hand-held weaponry.
Strapping a piece on an RC plane with a camera would also be next to worthless. They have fairly limited range (the receivers), and the airframe can only bear so much weight. I doubt highly it could take the stress of anything more intimidating than a .22, and drone aircraft seem to be built sturdily enough to take more damage than that. The only practical way you could take one of these out would be with a light aircraft that was armed in some way, and that's a whole other can of worms.
 
2013-03-13 02:27:55 PM
As long as you don't endanger anybody while shooting it down, drones are fair game over the continental US.
They are a mobile violation of FAA law and constitutional rights.
 
2013-03-13 02:29:17 PM

redlegrick: I smell BS. I am not an expert, but I suspect that anything that interferes with an FAA-approved aircraft is going to be outlawed, even if all it does is mess up the camera feed.

And if you were of a mind to actually take out a drone, a simple shotgun or rifle would be worthless except on takeoff or landing. From what I do know, they operate anywhere from 5,000 to 15,000 feet, well out of range of hand-held weaponry.
Strapping a piece on an RC plane with a camera would also be next to worthless. They have fairly limited range (the receivers), and the airframe can only bear so much weight. I doubt highly it could take the stress of anything more intimidating than a .22, and drone aircraft seem to be built sturdily enough to take more damage than that. The only practical way you could take one of these out would be with a light aircraft that was armed in some way, and that's a whole other can of worms.


Loiter engine, rocket engine, seeker head, twelve inches of lawn tractor axel... aim for the prop.  Probably cost about $300.00 to take out a predator NAZI style
 
2013-03-13 02:53:16 PM

redlegrick: I smell BS. I am not an expert, but I suspect that anything that interferes with an FAA-approved aircraft is going to be outlawed, even if all it does is mess up the camera feed.

And if you were of a mind to actually take out a drone, a simple shotgun or rifle would be worthless except on takeoff or landing. From what I do know, they operate anywhere from 5,000 to 15,000 feet, well out of range of hand-held weaponry.
Strapping a piece on an RC plane with a camera would also be next to worthless. They have fairly limited range (the receivers), and the airframe can only bear so much weight. I doubt highly it could take the stress of anything more intimidating than a .22, and drone aircraft seem to be built sturdily enough to take more damage than that. The only practical way you could take one of these out would be with a light aircraft that was armed in some way, and that's a whole other can of worms.


Trained geese.
/updates resume to include goose wrangler
 
2013-03-13 03:58:28 PM
But are the measures as effective as, say, an aniseed bomb dropped in Sator Square?

//not obscure
 
2013-03-13 04:00:08 PM
The only counter-measure you need is a good rifle with a scope.
 
2013-03-13 07:10:37 PM
media.treehugger.com

/hot and effective
 
2013-03-14 03:18:54 AM

prjindigo: redlegrick: I smell BS. I am not an expert, but I suspect that anything that interferes with an FAA-approved aircraft is going to be outlawed, even if all it does is mess up the camera feed.

And if you were of a mind to actually take out a drone, a simple shotgun or rifle would be worthless except on takeoff or landing. From what I do know, they operate anywhere from 5,000 to 15,000 feet, well out of range of hand-held weaponry.
Strapping a piece on an RC plane with a camera would also be next to worthless. They have fairly limited range (the receivers), and the airframe can only bear so much weight. I doubt highly it could take the stress of anything more intimidating than a .22, and drone aircraft seem to be built sturdily enough to take more damage than that. The only practical way you could take one of these out would be with a light aircraft that was armed in some way, and that's a whole other can of worms.

Loiter engine, rocket engine, seeker head, twelve inches of lawn tractor axel... aim for the prop.  Probably cost about $300.00 to take out a predator NAZI style


Doable on all fronts except for that seeker head you speak of. That's a lot of tech for Joe Six-Pack to create. I was thinking what would be possible off-the-shelf. I'm sure the robotics guys could probably cobble something together that works, but for three bills that's stretching it. And remember, it wouldn't be as simple as pulling a kamikaze run on it. You'd be dealing with extremely efficient ECM either onboard or overhead. Those things wouldn't be operating in a vacuum, there'd be hard-core command and control running an operation like that, especially over the US.
Since I'm probably already on a number of lists, here's my solution: find an experimental (not ultralight) aircraft design, preferably a pusher, capable of doing at least 180-200 in level flight. It would by necessity have the prerequisite mass to handle weaponry capable of inflicting damage to the target airframe. Those things aren't plastic film and balsa wood-they're carbon-fiber and aircraft grade aluminum and most likely had soft ballistic armor and other redundancies built-in. Remember, they were designed to operate over a real battle area.
And there would be very hard limits on how effective one of these things would be, again, since they don't operate in a vacuum. It's not a stretch to have an attack chopper or even an F-16 orbiting, and then you'd be in for some real excitement. Again, this is the absolute extreme countermeasures that seem to me would work. Good luck, and remember, we're all counting on you!
 
2013-03-14 03:19:11 PM
 
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