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(KNBC 4 Los Angeles)   The two women whose truck was shot up by the LAPD because they were mistaken for a black guy will not be getting a new truck because: a) the LAPD wanted them to pay income tax, b) the LAPD wanted them to pose for a photo op, c) all of the above   (nbclosangeles.com) divider line 152
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2013-03-13 08:10:52 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Seems the 1099 was the deal-breaker, not the photo opp.

Take the 1099, deduct the lost truck, pay IRS on the balance. That's the simple, fast way.

Or spend a few years in court suing for personal physical and emotional damages.  Awards for those things are not taxed.


Wow, I wonder how screwed they'd be if the cops actually managed to kill them, like they were trying to do.
 
2013-03-13 08:18:31 AM
Is the LAPD stupid?

New truck + paying the tax < Lawsuit

I mean, if it was me, I would have skipped the donation part all together. shiat, they got lit up by the LAPD, being unarmed and the LAPD has more or less admitted they farked up. All the officers involved are riding a desk until futher notice. These women got a hell of a case, and will be able to buy 10 trucks after they win.
 
2013-03-13 08:27:04 AM

L.D. Ablo: They should sue.  The settlement will be better than this offer.

 
2013-03-13 08:31:59 AM

azpenguin: I'm really amazed the LAPD just didn't give them a new truck, pay the medical bills, and call it a day. Instead, they got cute with trying to save money in the process. They could have been done with it already... and now this is going to bite them in the backside when a jury gets the case.


This.

They should have gone with "We are very sorry for this extremely regrettable incident and while we understand that you are almost certainly going to sue us we want to do what we can to cause you the least stress and hardship in the meantime. Here is a shiny brand new truck with all the top end options, with all taxes paid. We will also cover any medical bills your insurance is giving you hassle with, with all taxes paid. Until the legal issues are resolved and while you are unable to work due to your injuries we are also going to compensate you for your lost income."

Sure it would be in the tens of thousands for the truck and lost income, but it would go a long way towards making the two women more open to settling and less vengeful in how much they want to settle for if you actually acted like you were really really sorry.
 
2013-03-13 08:36:20 AM

Publikwerks: Is the LAPD stupid?


Yes
 
2013-03-13 08:39:51 AM
Don't worry, with the millions they will make in the lawsuit they can buy a fleet of trucks.

/yes the LAPD is stupid
 
2013-03-13 08:43:36 AM
What ungrateful twunts.  The LAPD practically gave them all the free bullets they could ever want, without ever being asked for such a generous offering.  And now these greedy creatures also expect a free trunk and/or money from the LAPD?  They should be happy with the bullets and stop acting so entitled.
 
2013-03-13 08:56:15 AM

LadySusan: Dear LAPD,

You shot two women, one 71 years old, who did not look anything like the suspect and who were not driving a vehicle like the suspect. Please immediately pay their medical bills and buy them a new truck. Do not deduct anything and structure the deal so they don't have to pay taxes. Do not pass Go. Also, some of you need to surrender your man cards for shooting 100 rounds and not killing the target...although, thank FSM for your incompetence.

Sincerely,
A concerned citizen


This, this, this.
 
2013-03-13 08:58:31 AM

GORDON: BarkingUnicorn: Seems the 1099 was the deal-breaker, not the photo opp.

Take the 1099, deduct the lost truck, pay IRS on the balance. That's the simple, fast way.

Or spend a few years in court suing for personal physical and emotional damages.  Awards for those things are not taxed.

Wow, I wonder how screwed they'd be if the cops actually managed to kill them, like they were trying to do.


should incompetence (i.e. not being able to aim a gun) really be rewarded with a lighter sentence?
 
2013-03-13 09:02:20 AM

ArkAngel: It's not really the fault of the LAPD tax-wise. There's not much they can do to avoid it. If it had been the settlement of a lawsuit, or the result of an insurance deal, that would be different and the IRS would treat it differently.


I have a brilliant idea.

The LAPD should have OFFERED TO PAY THE DAMN TAXES, so they can get this buried as quickly as ****ing possible.

Just a thought.
 
2013-03-13 09:03:08 AM

doglover: MythDragon: doglover: The primary job of the police is to protect the citizens and uphold the rule of law.


Aparently_not_any_more.

Not being at the personal beck and call of everyone who can fill out a "restraining" order is different from not shooting people without making sure they're armed and dangerous when they're IN YOUR LINE OF SIGHT!

Also, I'm against relying on restraining orders as anything but a formality unless we have some kind of Harry Potter magic paper that will literally chase and restrain a person. If you're in fear of for your safety, find a way to defend it.But while cops are always showing up AFTER the shooting's started, you want to expect that if they do shoot someone, it's at least a decent look alike to the suspect they're aiming for.


Well it's not so much that case, but the ruling on it. Unless I am reading it wrong, (and please correct me if I am) the Surpreme Court is stating that the police are not required to protect you at all. Be it a city wide search for one guy whom you simply have a restraining order on, or a vicious dog chasing you, or some guy who is about to kick your ass. Seems to me the ruling allows the police to walk by a vicious breed dog (such as a pug, golden retriever, or husky) as it chews your ass or some guy that you know is going to beat you, slowly walking towards you with a baseball bat since he hasn't actualy commited a crime yet.

Or maybe just from keeping someone from walking into the middle of a shoot out or gas pipe rupture.
 
2013-03-13 09:03:55 AM

Daedalus27: wickedragon: Wow. Someone should really stick it to the LAPD.

On a lighter note, how come not more LAPD officers are killed by angry mobs?
And how come the eight officers of the law who completely unprovoked opened fire on a random vehicle isn't on trial for attempted murder? "non-field assignment"? That's what they get? "Until the chief decides otherwise"? The fark! Police officers should NOT be treated lighter by the law than other citizens but harsher. They should be out of a job and into a jail cell where they should learn how to behave as proper farking human farking beings for farking farks fark! x|

They are probably still investigating the incident.  Then they have the formal discipline hearing, then any appeals, so it will be a year or more before the entire process concludes.  It isn't attempted murder because they mistakenly thought that they had to open fire on that truck to protect their principle.  They acted in a completely unjustified manner looking back, but I can see in those facts and circumstances, they might have believed it was kill or be killed.  It was wrong, they should be at minimum demoted to meter reader if not fired.  As far as criminal charges, excessive force would be the likely charge, not attempted murder. They were attempting to stop a non-existant, but real threat in their minds and they went too far.

Please, I am not trying to defend what these officers did.  I am trying to place myself in their position at that night after hearing 2 gun fights with police by a suspect they thought was driving down their street to kill the person they were assigned to protect.  I can see how that may lead them to overreact and do something entirely stupid and put the lives of those poor women and any other homeowners in the area at risk.  They have to live with that decision and face the consequences.  I just don't feel attempted murder is justified or even on the table in these circumstances.  Excessive force, assault under color of authority, ...


Overcharging defendants is done by every state and federal DA in the country, every day, in order to promote quick plea deals.

Police defendants should not be immune to the process, since they're part of it.
 
2013-03-13 09:11:57 AM

MythDragon: Well it's not so much that case, but the ruling on it. Unless I am reading it wrong, (and please correct me if I am) the Surpreme Court is stating that the police are not required to protect you at all. Be it a city wide search for one guy whom you simply have a restraining order on, or a vicious dog chasing you, or some guy who is about to kick your ass. Seems to me the ruling allows the police to walk by a vicious breed dog (such as a pug, golden retriever, or husky) as it chews your ass or some guy that you know is going to beat you, slowly walking towards you with a baseball bat since he hasn't actualy commited a crime yet.



In NYC they are arguing that during a manhunt if you are attacked by the person they are looking for the police watchingt he attack have no duty to help.


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/to_serve_but_not_protect_ Q r3ume5gEhMhtg8LvHgzAI">http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/to _serve_but_not_protect_Q r3ume5gEhMhtg8LvHgzAI
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-13 09:19:23 AM

LadySusan: Dear LAPD,

You shot two women, one 71 years old, who did not look anything like the suspect and who were not driving a vehicle like the suspect. Please immediately pay their medical bills and buy them a new truck. Do not deduct anything and structure the deal so they don't have to pay taxes. Do not pass Go. Also, some of you need to surrender your man cards for shooting 100 rounds and not killing the target...although, thank FSM for your incompetence.

Sincerely,
A concerned citizen


Done. Period. This ^^^ is how it SHOULD be done.
 
2013-03-13 09:22:29 AM
Every officer who opened fire should be charged with (at least) two counts attempted murder.
 
2013-03-13 09:27:36 AM

liam76: MythDragon: Well it's not so much that case, but the ruling on it. Unless I am reading it wrong, (and please correct me if I am) the Surpreme Court is stating that the police are not required to protect you at all. Be it a city wide search for one guy whom you simply have a restraining order on, or a vicious dog chasing you, or some guy who is about to kick your ass. Seems to me the ruling allows the police to walk by a vicious breed dog (such as a pug, golden retriever, or husky) as it chews your ass or some guy that you know is going to beat you, slowly walking towards you with a baseball bat since he hasn't actualy commited a crime yet.


In NYC they are arguing that during a manhunt if you are attacked by the person they are looking for the police watchingt he attack have no duty to help.


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/to_serve_but_not_protect_ Q r3ume5gEhMhtg8LvHgzAI">http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/to _serve_but_not_protect_Q r3ume5gEhMhtg8LvHgzAI


Then why are the police?
I vote we fire the lot of them and make a new system for law enforcement based on ethical values, honour, dignity and accountability.
 
2013-03-13 09:39:29 AM
I figure that when this is all said and done each of those women will be looking at an 8-figure settlement.

The LAPD will admit no wrongdoing naturally.

And even though this has been rehashed repeatedly - I still can't believe "trained" police officers hit the truck 102 times and they both lived.
 
2013-03-13 09:48:43 AM

Theaetetus: I'm just going to say that there are more problems in Heaven and Hell than are dreamt of in your privileged world, white boy.


Unlike the startling lack of problems inside your ivory tower.
 
2013-03-13 10:03:36 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Theaetetus: The LAPD had $1,000,000 donated by private citizens to kill Dorner. I think they could ask their donors whether they could throw $10k of that towards two elderly women whom they accidentally shot up.

There it is!  Get enough donors so that each kicks in less than $13K and there's no gift tax.


Has anyone mentioned that gifts are not taxable to the receiver, they are taxable to the giver: http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Freque n tly-Asked-Questions-on-Gift-Taxes#1
 
2013-03-13 10:05:13 AM

fluffy2097: Theaetetus: I'm just going to say that there are more problems in Heaven and Hell than are dreamt of in your privileged world, white boy.

Unlike the startling lack of problems inside your ivory tower.


ebony tower? I'd think that'd be both structurally and ethically better than an ivory one. :)
 
2013-03-13 10:07:29 AM

wickedragon: fluffy2097: Theaetetus: I'm just going to say that there are more problems in Heaven and Hell than are dreamt of in your privileged world, white boy.

Unlike the startling lack of problems inside your ivory tower.

ebony tower? I'd think that'd be both structurally and ethically better than an ivory one. :)


Should probably add something about that not being a slight against Theaetetus. Not only do I have any slightest idea about his melanin-levels, or much to say about his views as displayed in this thread, but I did think the ebony tower fitted better as a counterzing (none of those sentences are arguments) to than the ivory one.
 
2013-03-13 10:30:46 AM
Why do these women deserve anything at all? The police gave them 109 free Speed Holes! You know how long that would take with a pickaxe?
 
2013-03-13 11:36:49 AM
Target Builder
Sure it would be in the tens of thousands for the truck and lost income, but it would go a long way towards making the two women more open to settling and less vengeful in how much they want to settle for if you actually acted like you were really really sorry.


Ignoring some minimal problems in the court of law, that could be handled by a carefully worded letter, then police would have to admin they made a mistake.

Instead they don't have to admin a mistake and the taxpayer handles the design function, I mean mistake.
 
2013-03-13 11:41:34 AM

LoneDoggie: 0 out of 2 ain't bad.


Just a grammar error "To protect and serve Police"
Had the quote in the wrong spot.
 
2013-03-13 11:53:27 AM

doglover: BSABSVR: OK. Now given that that is legally impossible

It's not impossible at all. We have lawmakers who can pass new laws. Get them on it. Also, what is legally possible is pointless if the legal system sucks, and do it ever suck; yessiree.

But if you really want my practical ideas:

1. Fire the cops who shot at this truck. A police officer's job is to defend the public from crime up to the expense of their own life. If you won't hold you fire long enough to even see who or what you're shooting at, you don't deserve to be a cop. End of story, end of careers.

2. Give the women a truck and pay for it out of pocket. No taxpayer money, all cop money. Every officer in the force should be willing to chip in the make these women whole mentally, physically, and financially to show them and us they're not like the farkers who opened fire. Anyone who isn't, also off the force. Good bye.

3. Publicly gut the LAPD and let's see what spills out. . Obviously, something is very, very wrong is going on over there if they shoot two Mexican women in looking for a giant black man. I want every closet turned out and all the skeletons brought to light publicly. Shame, humiliation, and accountability will be byproducts; but mostly the LAPD is broken and it needs fixin' or LA's gonna be the next Detroit and it's painfully obvious we can't trust the LAPD to police themselves or their city properly.


Make it rain pink slips like Pac Man Jones at a strip club in Monopoly land.


You are a stupid person.
 
2013-03-13 11:59:12 AM

LoneDoggie: [mw2.google.com image 500x375]

0 out of 2 ain't bad.


It's a typo. It is supposed to say "severe."
 
2013-03-13 12:04:46 PM

BSABSVR: doglover: BSABSVR: OK. Now given that that is legally impossible

It's not impossible at all. We have lawmakers who can pass new laws. Get them on it. Also, what is legally possible is pointless if the legal system sucks, and do it ever suck; yessiree.

But if you really want my practical ideas:

1. Fire the cops who shot at this truck. A police officer's job is to defend the public from crime up to the expense of their own life. If you won't hold you fire long enough to even see who or what you're shooting at, you don't deserve to be a cop. End of story, end of careers.

2. Give the women a truck and pay for it out of pocket. No taxpayer money, all cop money. Every officer in the force should be willing to chip in the make these women whole mentally, physically, and financially to show them and us they're not like the farkers who opened fire. Anyone who isn't, also off the force. Good bye.

3. Publicly gut the LAPD and let's see what spills out. . Obviously, something is very, very wrong is going on over there if they shoot two Mexican women in looking for a giant black man. I want every closet turned out and all the skeletons brought to light publicly. Shame, humiliation, and accountability will be byproducts; but mostly the LAPD is broken and it needs fixin' or LA's gonna be the next Detroit and it's painfully obvious we can't trust the LAPD to police themselves or their city properly.


Make it rain pink slips like Pac Man Jones at a strip club in Monopoly land.

You are a stupid person.


No, not stupid. But I'll agree something is wrong. (S)He doesn't go far enough.
The police officers should also be held legally responsible for all their crimes. Add a year to every sentence for their gross misconduct and abuse of trust put in them by the general public.
Start a comprehensive investigation into the workings of the LAPD on every level, and start it off by firing the chief, the commisioners, assistant chiefs and so forth.
Open up old cases against police officers that were dismissed by the LAPD itself and see what falls out.

Fire every single officer who has ever been found guilty of a violent crime. Fark it, any crime. They are the custodians of the law and the protectors of the people. They should be able to act like it.
And then, after you've moved like a scourge through the policeforce increase the pay for those remaining and start giving them proper training. In ethics.
 
2013-03-13 12:10:40 PM
BSABSVR: doglover: BSABSVR: OK. Now given that that is legally impossible

It's not impossible at all. We have lawmakers who can pass new laws. Get them on it. Also, what is legally possible is pointless if the legal system sucks, and do it ever suck; yessiree.

But if you really want my practical ideas:

1. Fire the cops who shot at this truck. A police officer's job is to defend the public from crime up to the expense of their own life. If you won't hold you fire long enough to even see who or what you're shooting at, you don't deserve to be a cop. End of story, end of careers.

2. Give the women a truck and pay for it out of pocket. No taxpayer money, all cop money. Every officer in the force should be willing to chip in the make these women whole mentally, physically, and financially to show them and us they're not like the farkers who opened fire. Anyone who isn't, also off the force. Good bye.

3. Publicly gut the LAPD and let's see what spills out. . Obviously, something is very, very wrong is going on over there if they shoot two Mexican women in looking for a giant black man. I want every closet turned out and all the skeletons brought to light publicly. Shame, humiliation, and accountability will be byproducts; but mostly the LAPD is broken and it needs fixin' or LA's gonna be the next Detroit and it's painfully obvious we can't trust the LAPD to police themselves or their city properly.


Make it rain pink slips like Pac Man Jones at a strip club in Monopoly land.


You are a stupid person.


rivaled only by someone with such a total lack of basic empathy they could read it and not think "i wish".

aren't you late for your beat?
 
2013-03-13 12:13:02 PM

ArkAngel: Theaetetus: BarkingUnicorn: Seems the 1099 was the deal-breaker, not the photo opp.

Take the 1099, deduct the lost truck, pay IRS on the balance.That's the simple, fast way.

Or spend a few years in court suing for personal physical and emotional damages.  Awards for those things are not taxed.

I'm going to bet that a middle-aged and elderly woman who were out delivering newspapers at 4 in the morning and now have probably close to $100k in medical bills due to being shot several times probably don't have a spare $10k handy for the income tax payment on a new truck.

And I'm not going to call you a douchebag for overlooking that fact. I'm just going to say that there are more problems in Heaven and Hell than are dreamt of in your privileged world, white boy.

It's not really the fault of the LAPD tax-wise. There's not much they can do to avoid it. If it had been the settlement of a lawsuit, or the result of an insurance deal, that would be different and the IRS would treat it differently.


the way they are positioning the deal in a way that does not admit guilt they are trying to absolve themselves of any wrong doing.... farking garbage that should cause a riot in the streets
 
2013-03-13 12:55:08 PM
They should have finished off the two ladies in the truck, planted guns and drugs on the bodies, then gave a "no comment" as it was related to an ongoing investigation.
 
2013-03-13 01:08:19 PM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: They should have finished off the two ladies in the truck, planted guns and drugs on the bodies, then gave a "no comment" as it was related to an ongoing investigation.


They aren't african-americans, you can't simply sprinkle crack on them and hope it goes away. You have to use a few kilos of cocaine and twenty guns apiece pretend they are cartell. That's just to much guns and drugs for them to carry around in their little copmobiles.
 
2013-03-13 01:35:53 PM

BarkingUnicorn: doglover: If you're a cop, you should take a bullet from a bad guy being overly cautious before you open fire on the wrong people. Why? Because your job first and foremost is to keep people from being wrongfully assaulted in your city.

The first and foremost job of every cop is to come home to his family.  But cops need to be good multitaskers.


No. That's not what they're paid for. The mission comes first, then your personal safety. Always. Ever since Columbine, I've seen  chickenshiat cops dodge danger and issue self-serving statements to excuse why they were unwilling to put themselves in harm's way. You want to be a militarized police force, then run to the sound of the guns, you feckless cowards.
 
2013-03-13 01:36:02 PM
If I were the two ladies, I'd ask for 102 million dollars.

Then, when they accuse me of making it 'all about the money', I'd call a press conference and say:

It's NOT all about the money. I will gladly drop the lawsuit (except for medical and other expenses) if the following happened:

1) All the cops who shot at me were arrested and tried for attempted murder. The number of counts based on the number of shots they fired.

2) Regardless of the outcome, all the cops involved are fired and can never be hired as police again.

3) No gag order or similar restrictions.

...but the DA and cops will NEVER go for this. Thus, it is THEM making it 'all about the money'.

- of course, I might phrase it slightly better, but you get the point.
 
2013-03-13 01:40:18 PM
I still say the good guy got burned up in that cabin fire.
 
2013-03-13 02:15:42 PM
LadySusan:Sincerely,
A concerned citizen


This is the LAPD we're talking about, the most dangerous franchise of the Boyzenblue syndicate in the entire US.  You don't ask them for crap unless you want to end up committing suicide with a bullet to the back of the head.
 
2013-03-13 02:41:35 PM
F*ck you, LAPD. Just f*ck you.

/LA is a beautiful city, but I think it just skyrocketed to the top of my 'places I will never live' list.
 
2013-03-13 03:26:31 PM

ReapTheChaos: "Eight officers were involved in the shooting. They were assigned to non-field assignments "until the (police) chief decides otherwise."

There is absolutely no excuse for this. All eight of them belong in jail.


Yes. Bur here in the real world, how it works is:

All eight spend the next couple of months at their desks playing freecell and trolling the LA TImes comment threads while the Department investigates itself. Then, late some Friday afternoon when something else big is in the news, the Police quietly release the results of their investigation, which are that neither these eight nor any other LAPD officer has ever committed a mistake or misconduct, so why should there be any review or change of policy or training? What's more these officers are actually Heroes in Blue who deserve raises and promotions in addition to the commendations we just awarded them. And oh, by the way, ladies, here's your citations for leaving your truck illegally parked in the street while you went to the hospital, and for having broken taillights and a damaged windshield; also, the dry-cleaning bill for our soiled underpants.
 
2013-03-13 03:57:40 PM

BuckTurgidson: ReapTheChaos: "Eight officers were involved in the shooting. They were assigned to non-field assignments "until the (police) chief decides otherwise."

There is absolutely no excuse for this. All eight of them belong in jail.

Yes. Bur here in the real world, how it works is:

All eight spend the next couple of months at their desks playing freecell and trolling the LA TImes comment threads while the Department investigates itself. Then, late some Friday afternoon when something else big is in the news, the Police quietly release the results of their investigation, which are that neither these eight nor any other LAPD officer has ever committed a mistake or misconduct, so why should there be any review or change of policy or training? What's more these officers are actually Heroes in Blue who deserve raises and promotions in addition to the commendations we just awarded them. And oh, by the way, ladies, here's your citations for leaving your truck illegally parked in the street while you went to the hospital, and for having broken taillights and a damaged windshield; also, the dry-cleaning bill for our soiled underpants.


Years ago, this would have been absurd, now it's just prescient.
 
2013-03-13 06:28:53 PM
ACAB
 
2013-03-13 06:44:54 PM
LAPD, call me.

I'll give you lessons on how to actually hit what you are shooting at.

By the by, it'll have to be a cash transaction, your word isn't worth much anymore.
 
2013-03-13 07:05:55 PM

Theaetetus: BarkingUnicorn: Seems the 1099 was the deal-breaker, not the photo opp.

Take the 1099, deduct the lost truck, pay IRS on the balance.That's the simple, fast way.

Or spend a few years in court suing for personal physical and emotional damages.  Awards for those things are not taxed.

I'm going to bet that a middle-aged and elderly woman who were out delivering newspapers at 4 in the morning and now have probably close to $100k in medical bills due to being shot several times probably don't have a spare $10k handy for the income tax payment on a new truck.


I thought it was an inherent assumption of American social ethics that if you don't have a spare $10K lying around, you don't DESERVE justice.
 
2013-03-13 07:05:56 PM
Color me surprised.  One, those women are Hispanic.  Two, they're probably poor.  Sorry, LAPD is not there to defend you.

Definetly if you are a celebrity, industry muckity muck.  OR, you are from the nice parts of LA.- Hollywood hills, Westwood, near the beaches, parts of Willshire/Miracle Mile.

Otherwise f--k off.
 
2013-03-13 07:11:29 PM
This doesn't make sense.  The gift giver is the one that pays the tax not the gift receiver.   In this case, the LAPD is to pay the tax.

The LAPD is just being a dick as usual.
 
2013-03-13 08:13:39 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: No. That's not what they're paid for. The mission comes first, then your personal safety. Always. Ever since Columbine, I've seen chickenshiat cops dodge danger and issue self-serving statements to excuse why they were unwilling to put themselves in harm's way. You want to be a militarized police force, then run to the sound of the guns, you feckless cowards.


Actually, that's the policy now since Columbine.  At Columbine, the standard tactic was to surround the building, secure the scene, and then negotiate with the gunmen; they weren't really used to deal with suicidal gunmen committing a mass killing.

Now they realize that most of these types of gunmen commit suicide after being confronted/engaged by the police, so the accepted strategy now is to search and engage the gunmen immediately.
 
2013-03-13 09:05:38 PM
I don't see how paying somebody for damages is income to them. The only reason there's a 1099 is because LAPD is trying to record it as some sort of prize.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-03-13 11:00:19 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: BarkingUnicorn: doglover: If you're a cop, you should take a bullet from a bad guy being overly cautious before you open fire on the wrong people. Why? Because your job first and foremost is to keep people from being wrongfully assaulted in your city.

The first and foremost job of every cop is to come home to his family.  But cops need to be good multitaskers.

No. That's not what they're paid for. The mission comes first, then your personal safety. Always. Ever since Columbine, I've seen  chickenshiat cops dodge danger and issue self-serving statements to excuse why they were unwilling to put themselves in harm's way. You want to be a militarized police force, then run to the sound of the guns, you feckless cowards.


There ARE police that behave this way. They are called MP's!
Wanna see shining examples? Interview Marine MPs, Naval SPs,  Army MPs. Try some shiat with one of those folks.
/protip: make peace with deity of your choice FIRST, you will need it. also be sure your catastrophic healthcare is paid up.

My uncle was a Marine MP. Sweet boiling-oil Jesus, picking some shiat with him had to be beyond braindead.
At 6'2" 240 when he was in service (and not a bit of fat on him) he was just average size in his MP unit.
The bigger guys could get the Marines who stepped out of line to get in the car just by shooting them the stink-eye look.
If you were so under-the-influence or universally idiotic you would actually start an altercation with them you would go back to barracks looking like a Twist-O-Flex watch band that got caught in a V8 powered dough-kneader.

LEO's in civilian-land are not to be given the qualifier of 'para-military' or anything remotely smacking of it.
They are NOT military. Many are poorly trained. Some are in such poor shape they nearly have a myocardial infarction trying to run down a perp.
Their marksmanship is  frequently deplorable.
They frequently show a disregard for their uniform (something I find repugnant, on a personal level since the uni is a symbol and should be kept up).
Some are so discourteous as to be obnoxious. They forget whose monies pay their roles, and to whom they should be accountable.

Then, there are the good cops. Even there I find some distasteful behavior. This 'thin blue line' shiat must end.
The mentality that there is an US(leo) v.THEM(JohnQPublic) is repugnant and outright belligerent.

Look, everyone deserves to go home to family. Even armed service folks. But, when you sign on for one of these jobs you are accepting the inherent and clear possibility you will come to be in harms way at some point in your career. If you don't accept that, you are stupid, willfully obtuse or in terminal denial of irrefutable fact.
 
2013-03-13 11:11:29 PM

gja: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: BarkingUnicorn: doglover: If you're a cop, you should take a bullet from a bad guy being overly cautious before you open fire on the wrong people. Why? Because your job first and foremost is to keep people from being wrongfully assaulted in your city.

The first and foremost job of every cop is to come home to his family.  But cops need to be good multitaskers.

No. That's not what they're paid for. The mission comes first, then your personal safety. Always. Ever since Columbine, I've seen  chickenshiat cops dodge danger and issue self-serving statements to excuse why they were unwilling to put themselves in harm's way. You want to be a militarized police force, then run to the sound of the guns, you feckless cowards.

There ARE police that behave this way. They are called MP's!
Wanna see shining examples? Interview Marine MPs, Naval SPs,  Army MPs. Try some shiat with one of those folks.
/protip: make peace with deity of your choice FIRST, you will need it. also be sure your catastrophic healthcare is paid up.

My uncle was a Marine MP. Sweet boiling-oil Jesus, picking some shiat with him had to be beyond braindead.
At 6'2" 240 when he was in service (and not a bit of fat on him) he was just average size in his MP unit.
The bigger guys could get the Marines who stepped out of line to get in the car just by shooting them the stink-eye look.
If you were so under-the-influence or universally idiotic you would actually start an altercation with them you would go back to barracks looking like a Twist-O-Flex watch band that got caught in a V8 powered dough-kneader.

LEO's in civilian-land are not to be given the qualifier of 'para-military' or anything remotely smacking of it.
They are NOT military. Many are poorly trained. Some are in such poor shape they nearly have a myocardial infarction trying to run down a perp.
Their marksmanship is  frequently deplorable.
They frequently show a disregard for their uniform (something I find repugnant, on a per ...


Every word of THIS!

Also, I'd rather be arrested by MPs than civilian police. At least I know I'm gonna get a consistent experience.

/BTW, FARK chose to arbitrarily cut your post in half. Not me.
 
2013-03-14 04:13:15 AM
To all the Farkers here who don't live in L.A. and don't listen to the public radio here, Charlie Beck, Chief of the LAPD was on the radio a few days after the shooting saying how he was going to make sure these lady's got a new truck, how it was the right thing to do, blah blah blah and was adamant about it.

So yeah, cops lie, what else is new.
 
2013-03-14 09:48:15 AM

gja: My uncle was a Marine MP. Sweet boiling-oil Jesus, picking some shiat with him had to be beyond braindead.
At 6'2" 240 when he was in service (and not a bit of fat on him) he was just average size in his MP unit.
The bigger guys could get the Marines who stepped out of line to get in the car just by shooting them the stink-eye look.


What is with MPs and Marines?  Every former MP I've known seems to love the idea of slapping Marines around.
 
2013-03-14 11:26:08 AM
Didn't read all the comments, but did anyone else notice that the woman's truck was either a Toyota Tacoma or a Tundra (thanks, journalism failure!) and the replacement is a Ford?

No wonder she doesn't want the replacement.  If someone shot up my Tacoma and wanted to replace it with a Ford, I'd tell them to go fark themselves.
 
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