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2013-03-12 10:23:30 PM  
Oklahoma City, OK

IIRC, don't they actually have a really good emerging restaurant scene? I feel like a read an article a year or so ago how lots of young people are actually moving their.

Memphis, TN

Their airport has better BBQ than most cities. Considering the hipster obsession with BBQ -- which is typically an extremely overpriced poor imitation of the real thing -- it's hard to be hating on Memphis.
 
2013-03-12 10:24:02 PM  

Civil_War2_Time: Young people = broke
Walkability = broke
Bikeability = broke
Vintage Stores = broke
Dive Bars = broke
Vegetarian Restaurants = stupid
Artsy jobs = broke
Vinyl stores = That's okay, because I grew up before 8-tracks

#8 on the list, and hoping for #1.


Usually hipster seems to mean (at least to most of the Internet) is, "get off my lawn, you're poor and not as cool as I was when I was your age. Now, when I was your age..."
 
2013-03-12 10:25:38 PM  
LOL, I just had to go GIS, found this:

www.wired.com
 
2013-03-12 10:25:59 PM  
I'm not sure how hipsters can keep surviving in high priced cities, seems NYC and SF have priced them out (as well as working class people in general). I heard the hipsters are trying to gentrify Oakland, so it'll be interesting to see that. Thank God San Jose isn't cool enough for them to come here en masse, though  BART might change that.
 
2013-03-12 10:26:28 PM  

vicejay: I've never understood Hipster Hate©


Self-imported attention-whoring douchebags who think they are actually "literally" better than YOU, in some sort of half-wit wannabe intellectual ethos obsessed with pointing out how "different" and "countercultural" they are, ignoring the fact that they, themselves are a major culture, and as such, are about as countercultural as Jay-Z is. Trendies are annoying and douchey to begin with, add to that this idea that something that is of "the rare" is better than anything else, ignoring actual quality. For example, insisting that their no-one-has-heard-of band is better than the Beatles, not because the band is actually better, but because no one has heard of them and they "sound different". Fake punks (as in the music) who misuse the concept of "irony" and strain to sound educated, despite it taking a miracle for them to actually be one. It's not good enough to ride a bike, you have to ride a vintage fixie, not because you race in velodrome or used to be a bike messenger, but simply because it's in fashion, and no, you don't really know how to ride one, but the fact that you are, means that you look like a serious biker who is into the "hard stuff".

All of it is fake, and driven by trendiness. Each component would possibly be justifiable, but taken together, it's a big bag of fake attention whoring "I'm a unique and special butterly" Millennial superiority complex taken to an extreme. There are plenty of "scenes" out there, they all suck. Hipsterism is on top of the douche pile. fark them in the ear.

I am not a metal guy, but I do appreciate the Pantera lyric that says "be yourself, by yourself, stay away from me"
 
2013-03-12 10:26:44 PM  

thornhill: Oklahoma City, OK

IIRC, don't they actually have a really good emerging restaurant scene? I feel like a read an article a year or so ago how lots of young people are actually moving their.

Memphis, TN

Their airport has better BBQ than most cities. Considering the hipster obsession with BBQ -- which is typically an extremely overpriced poor imitation of the real thing -- it's hard to be hating on Memphis.


Eek! Grammar nightmare.
 
2013-03-12 10:27:28 PM  
I'm with the other Farkers on the whole "DFW is full of hipsters" thing.

That being said EVERY major city in America has them. I don't get the hate of 'em really. To me, they are just another group for people to biatch and complain about.

I'm sure we all fit into a group that someone doesn't like and therefore can mock and try to "avoid".
 
2013-03-12 10:28:12 PM  
In Memphis the hipsters would get mugged.

Charlotte, NC seems to be trying to become a hipster hangout as they are trying to be the next Atlanta.
 
2013-03-12 10:33:36 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: vicejay: I've never understood Hipster Hate©

Self-imported attention-whoring douchebags who think they are actually "literally" better than YOU, in some sort of half-wit wannabe intellectual ethos obsessed with pointing out how "different" and "countercultural" they are, ignoring the fact that they, themselves are a major culture, and as such, are about as countercultural as Jay-Z is. Trendies are annoying and douchey to begin with, add to that this idea that something that is of "the rare" is better than anything else, ignoring actual quality. For example, insisting that their no-one-has-heard-of band is better than the Beatles, not because the band is actually better, but because no one has heard of them and they "sound different". Fake punks (as in the music) who misuse the concept of "irony" and strain to sound educated, despite it taking a miracle for them to actually be one. It's not good enough to ride a bike, you have to ride a vintage fixie, not because you race in velodrome or used to be a bike messenger, but simply because it's in fashion, and no, you don't really know how to ride one, but the fact that you are, means that you look like a serious biker who is into the "hard stuff".

All of it is fake, and driven by trendiness. Each component would possibly be justifiable, but taken together, it's a big bag of fake attention whoring "I'm a unique and special butterly" Millennial superiority complex taken to an extreme. There are plenty of "scenes" out there, they all suck. Hipsterism is on top of the douche pile. fark them in the ear.

I am not a metal guy, but I do appreciate the Pantera lyric that says "be yourself, by yourself, stay away from me"


You care way too much about this.  Fark 'em.
 
2013-03-12 10:33:55 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Dallas and Fort Worth have plenty of hipsters. The suburbs on the other hand... are pure cookie cutter, GOP hell


THIS.
 
2013-03-12 10:34:35 PM  
I like San Antonio like it is.  Let Austin stay weird, and let SA stay lame.  I'm not 20 anymore, so I don't care.
 
2013-03-12 10:35:15 PM  
'Least-hipster' sounds cool. I prefer 'lame-ass cracker towns'.
 
2013-03-12 10:36:58 PM  

Rye_: a monocum of popularity.

A what, now?


AKA a selfie. You know...hipsterspeak.
 
2013-03-12 10:37:22 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Dallas and Fort Worth have plenty of hipsters. The suburbs on the other hand... are pure cookie cutter, GOP hell




Do you know the difference between Dallas/Fort Worth and yogurt?

Yogurt has an active culture.
 
2013-03-12 10:38:11 PM  
I have been to Memphis and I have been to Lincoln, NE and you cannot tell me that Memphis is less hipster than that city or dozens of others like it. Midtown is a hipster mecca.
 
2013-03-12 10:38:31 PM  

davidphogan: Civil_War2_Time: Young people = broke
Walkability = broke
Bikeability = broke
Vintage Stores = broke
Dive Bars = broke
Vegetarian Restaurants = stupid
Artsy jobs = broke
Vinyl stores = That's okay, because I grew up before 8-tracks

#8 on the list, and hoping for #1.

Usually hipster seems to mean (at least to most of the Internet) is, "get off my lawn, you're poor and not as cool as I was when I was your age. Now, when I was your age..."



Hipsters are hiding behind as much of a veil as Catholic priests. Both dress up to look appropriate to their flocks, and then cry alone at night.
 
2013-03-12 10:38:35 PM  

KrispyKritter: i like the South. nice folks, easy to chat with, good food, affordable housing, fresh air, the girls don't have major attitude problems and you don't freeze your jingles off.


Well, they have that going for them. But there is so much on the other side that keeps me from going there.
 
2013-03-12 10:39:49 PM  
YES! The South SUCKS! Especially TEXAS! So stay the HELL AWAY FROM US! And OKC, too!
 
2013-03-12 10:39:57 PM  

pecosdave: Vegetarian in Texas - even the salads have a pound of meat on them.


The only time I was in Texas they seemed to bend over backwards at every restaurant I visited to make awesome vegetarian meals for me.  The waitress who asked, "Does that include pork?" said it so innocently I found it endearing.

To be fair, I was mostly in Austin, and visiting from Portland I was treated by a few people as though I had come from the mother ship.
 
2013-03-12 10:41:53 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Self-imported attention-whoring douchebags [snip]


Thanks for that. I needed that catharsis.

Apparently these days it is some kind of crime to express dislike for something.
 
2013-03-12 10:42:34 PM  

Rye_: You care way too much about this. Fark 'em.


In my defense, Urban Oufitters is a client of mine...
 
2013-03-12 10:43:16 PM  

davidphogan: Civil_War2_Time: Young people = broke
Walkability = broke
Bikeability = broke
Vintage Stores = broke
Dive Bars = broke
Vegetarian Restaurants = stupid
Artsy jobs = broke
Vinyl stores = That's okay, because I grew up before 8-tracks

#8 on the list, and hoping for #1.

Usually hipster seems to mean (at least to most of the Internet) is, "get off my lawn, you're poor and not as cool as I was when I was your age. Now, when I was your age..."


If this was the metric then Naples, FL should be the hipster capitol of the world.
 
2013-03-12 10:44:16 PM  

TheJoe03: ThePastafarian: Hipsters are annoying.  Rednecks are hateful and prone to violence.

Yeeaahh, I'll take the hipsters.

Rednecks are like that when there's a group of them and they are talkin politics, but generally rednecks are way easier to get along with (for me at least, as a urban North African Jew that grew up in Texas) than hipsters. Way more upfront, real, and funny. Were I grew up the rednecks were more like King of the Hill than Birth of a Nation.


This
 
2013-03-12 10:45:18 PM  
Indy? Have they been to Broad Ripple?
 
2013-03-12 10:46:03 PM  

exyankee: I like San Antonio like it is.  Let Austin stay weird, and let SA stay lame.  I'm not 20 anymore, so I don't care.


Just stay away from Southtown during First Friday
 
2013-03-12 10:46:52 PM  

Paris1127: I don't think the 90s is something Oklahoma City really wants to dwell upon...


Perversely, 1995 was really the only time Oklahoma City figured into the national zeitgeist.

I spent the 90s in Oklahoma City. It was a good time in my life.
 
2013-03-12 10:50:35 PM  

mysticcat: Memphis?   Ever been to midtown? A proto-hipster neighborhood.


But they are confined to a fairly small area. With a few other places scattered around town.
 
2013-03-12 10:52:00 PM  
My step-sister was a hipster of sorts in the eighties.  She'd start each day contacting each of her close friends and actually orchestrate their fashion for the day so as to maintain "originality" by not accidentally wearing the same shirt or pair of socks when they showed up at school. They really thought they had something going with their original fashion sense. Nearly blew her mind by pointing out that she was actually part of a clique in which all the members were identical in that they all cohesively desired to appear original which made them not unlike the rockers, motor heads, boneheads, nerds, jocks, or any other group brought together by common interest.
 
2013-03-12 10:53:16 PM  

SpikeStrip: hipsters or rednecks. tough choice.


It kind of is. I've spent my whole life around both. I like and loathe them both equally.

If you could weed out the bigots, I think I'd take rednecks over hipsters. They tend to be far more down to Earth and far less full of themselves. They're not much for putting on acts.

Hipsters like much better music and beer, though, so there is that. (And they'll be sure to let you know it.)
 
2013-03-12 10:56:27 PM  

Civil_War2_Time: davidphogan: Civil_War2_Time: Young people = broke
Walkability = broke
Bikeability = broke
Vintage Stores = broke
Dive Bars = broke
Vegetarian Restaurants = stupid
Artsy jobs = broke
Vinyl stores = That's okay, because I grew up before 8-tracks

#8 on the list, and hoping for #1.

Usually hipster seems to mean (at least to most of the Internet) is, "get off my lawn, you're poor and not as cool as I was when I was your age. Now, when I was your age..."


Hipsters are hiding behind as much of a veil as Catholic priests. Both dress up to look appropriate to their flocks, and then cry alone at night.


I'm still not sure what a hipster is always.  Is it just anyone from 21-34 who wears old/cheap clothes, drink cheap beer, buy cheap shiat in general, and don't drive much?  Or do they need to be the type who wears wire frame glasses, skinny jeans, has a bunch of piercings/tattoos, etc?

What if you have friends who have a bunch of stupid tattoos and piercings, but you're just cheap and would prefer to be able to go out with said hipster friends a few times a week and afford a nice phone with a data plan instead of own a car and deal with the hassles of owning it?  What if you just keep wearing the same old crap you've had since you were 13 if it still fits well enough and isn't full of holes?

So, yeah, I find hipster to be a kind of confusing label.  Lots of Farkers make it sound like a hipster is anyone younger than them without the same taste in fashion.  Is it like "slacker" which was used to describe almost any member of Gen X at one point? Is it just anyone who doesn't act like a suburbanite?  Is it the type of people featured on Portlandia?

I live in Portland, and it's really hard for me to figure out if people are hipsters.  I mean, I go to dive bars (they're cheap), walk most places (it's cheap and free exercise, plus I can always pull out my phone and kill time reading Fark), sell stuff to vintage stores for beer money sometimes (if I haven't worn a shirt in five years I should probably let it go), and I love well cooked tofu and broccoli (it might be vegan, but with the right seasoning and sauce it's farking delicious).  Does that make me a hipster?  I just don't know.
 
2013-03-12 10:56:59 PM  
Hipsters choose not to abide by mainstream fashions, whereas most white middle class people try to and fail.

Like has been mentioned, the only difference is that the latter group are more racist.
 
2013-03-12 10:57:02 PM  

Krieghund: Paris1127: I don't think the 90s is something Oklahoma City really wants to dwell upon...

Perversely, 1995 was really the only time Oklahoma City figured into the national zeitgeist.

I spent the 90s in Oklahoma City. It was a good time in my life.


Well, the nice thing was that the Flaming Lips are OKC-proximate, and they were in their prime in the 90s. But I suppose that's a hipster thing for me to say.
 
2013-03-12 10:57:09 PM  

shoegaze99: SpikeStrip: hipsters or rednecks. tough choice.

It kind of is. I've spent my whole life around both. I like and loathe them both equally.

If you could weed out the bigots, I think I'd take rednecks over hipsters. They tend to be far more down to Earth and far less full of themselves. They're not much for putting on acts.

Hipsters like much better music and beer, though, so there is that. (And they'll be sure to let you know it.)


At least most of the racist rednecks will just come out and let you know they are racists though.
 
2013-03-12 10:57:30 PM  

KrispyKritter: you don't freeze your jingles off.


That's why we invented coats. I'd rather take freezing weather than 100º humidity.
 
2013-03-12 10:59:01 PM  
SubbyTop 10 least hipster cities in America. "Most of the cities who made the hipster-unfriendly list are in the South. There's nothing ironic about it"

25.media.tumblr.com
Disagrees.
 
2013-03-12 10:59:15 PM  

davidphogan: pecosdave: Vegetarian in Texas - even the salads have a pound of meat on them.

The only time I was in Texas they seemed to bend over backwards at every restaurant I visited to make awesome vegetarian meals for me.  The waitress who asked, "Does that include pork?" said it so innocently I found it endearing.

To be fair, I was mostly in Austin, and visiting from Portland I was treated by a few people as though I had come from the mother ship.


Yeah, that's one of the things I like about living here in Austin. Hell, even at non-veg places I've never had an issue if I ask for a non-meat item to be left off. People are pretty nice about that around here.
 
2013-03-12 10:59:38 PM  

r1niceboy: Like has been mentioned, the only difference is that the latter group are more racist.


More openly racist, at least. I've met more than a few hipsters who were closeted bigots of one form or another. With the rednecks, at least you know where you stand with them.

/Which isn't to say I think bigotry is equally distributed in both groups
//'Cause I don't think that
 
2013-03-12 10:59:39 PM  

bottsicus: talthy.files.wordpress.com


Nice ride. Cool car, too!
 
2013-03-12 10:59:43 PM  
I've been to San Antonio twice and both times I noticed a high degree of stray dogs.  It's just that kind of stray dog edginess that will be the next hipster magnet.
 
2013-03-12 10:59:58 PM  

orclover: Gimme a couple donner vehicles and a couple weeks and we can find out.


Are these vehicles that eat each other when stuck in the snowy wilderness?
 
2013-03-12 11:02:09 PM  

bob_ross: [s24.postimage.org image 520x741]


Yeah, biatch, it's a motherfarking fixie.
 
2013-03-12 11:06:13 PM  

WTF Indeed: Racism isn't ironicly cool yet.


The people who post on 4chan disagree.
 
2013-03-12 11:06:40 PM  
I lived in Memphis for 10 years and San Antonio the last five, so I guess that explains my unhippityness.

For the record, I really enjoy both cities.
 
2013-03-12 11:07:24 PM  
Surprised Norfolk,VA didn't make the list...
 
2013-03-12 11:07:52 PM  

utsagrad123: exyankee: I like San Antonio like it is.  Let Austin stay weird, and let SA stay lame.  I'm not 20 anymore, so I don't care.

Just stay away from Southtown during First Friday


First Friday can be pretty hipster I guess.  But it's mainly people wanting to drink cheaply, and urinating on peoples lawns - I have friends in King William.  I used to go, but it's been a long time.  Having children will do that.
 
2013-03-12 11:08:44 PM  
davidphogan

To me (having grown up in Austin in the 70s, and coming from broke hippie parents), today's hipsters are just trying too hard to be like my folks.

It's not that they aren't doing any good in the world, because they are. They (IMO) are just trying WAY TOO hard to be flower children.

Walking, riding a bicycle, being healthy, listening to vinyl...all good things. But do you really have to spend an hour getting primed to look the part, while also bragging about your bike/beer/bar? No.
 
2013-03-12 11:12:01 PM  

The Face Of Oblivion: [by conforming to a dress code that I already practice along with a million other people in this other city]


Uniformity, the most ironic part of hipsterism.
 
2013-03-12 11:12:27 PM  

vicejay: I've never understood Hipster Hate©


Many people tend to dislike arrogant, privileged, loud, ignorant, poorly-dressed, ungroomed, boring, alcoholic, ugly white kids. ...unless you were referring to a specific manifestation or something of dislike for hipsters.
 
2013-03-12 11:14:12 PM  
Plenty of of hipsters, or hipster wanna bes in OKC, it just the teatards out number them.
 
2013-03-12 11:16:27 PM  

bob_ross: [s24.postimage.org image 520x741]


lol
 
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