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(Omaha World Herald)   "It was so scary. I started crying." This woman is talking about: A) Getting robbed at gunpoint; B) Skydiving; C) Driving in snow   (omaha.com) divider line 142
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2013-03-12 10:28:51 PM

Sliding Carp: Drive like  a Russian.


Okay, now that was hilarious.
 
2013-03-12 10:31:37 PM

lack of warmth: I have heard it called "sticky ice".


We call it "greazy" ; like greasy, but with a soft s.
 
2013-03-12 10:36:34 PM

SirEattonHogg: Atleast in the midwest, everything is flat


I'm guessing you lived in Illinois.  Not very flat north or west from there.

/Winter driving in Dubuque, IA really sucks
//Madison, WI only slightly better.
 
2013-03-12 10:38:12 PM
Don't they get snow in Omaha?

We in the northern states laugh at you.
 
2013-03-12 10:42:08 PM
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2013-03-12 10:44:59 PM

slayer199: Don't they get snow in Omaha?

We in the northern states laugh at you.


i slept through this one

i637.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-12 11:09:20 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Bathia_Mapes: I don't know about you, submitter, but if I was driving a 4-WD vehicle and was still slipping & sliding around I'd be scared.

Then you're doing it badly wrong. 4WD is not a panacea, but it can help.


Probably some lifted rig on mud tires.  Junk like that IS scary in snow.

Give me a small, light car for driving in snow any day.  Especially one with decent tires.

/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbwLe6kRbyM  for example
/has an AWD car on snow tires.  The RX-7 on snow tires is still better snow driving car
 
2013-03-12 11:09:20 PM

ZeroCorpse: Nick Nostril: YouPeopleAreCrazy: Words to live by:
4WheelDrive does not mean 4WheelStop.

And don't project your lack of driving skill onto others. Just because you're taxing your skills while driving 10 under doesn't mean everyone else is.

No, he's right. People in 4WD vehicles frequently don't get that just because they can move a little faster in the snow, it doesn't mean that their stopping distance is better than a 2WD. In fact, it's often worse because they're usually heavier and they  are  going faster.

And 4WD won't do anything for your allegedly-skilled driving ass if you speed into black ice and hit your brakes.


Every owner's manual for a 4WD should have a page entitled: "On the physics of hockey pucks"
 
2013-03-12 11:10:43 PM
People stuck on the road in blizzards should be ticketed with illegal parking.

I loved north dakota's policy of plowing the cars off the road. 1st person to complain got a bill for any damage the plow sustained. (to include painting costs)
 
2013-03-12 11:20:43 PM

rustypouch: Is this where I point and laugh?

I'm Canadian, and drive a Subaru with winter tires. It makes driving on snow and ice feel like cheating.


AWD Volkswagen on Gislaveds makes snow feel like summer.  I'm the A-hole passing traffic in the unplowed left lane because, quite frankly, my car goes all honey badger on that crap.

But AWD makes the steering feel just totally dead, though.  So I put snow tires on the RX-7 because I wanted to hit some snow rallycrosses with it.  Car is awesome.  I can go full throttle in 3rd gear on snow and it doesn't even spin the tires, it just goes.  And because the front wheels don't get power, the steering feel isn't killed, so you can really tell if the front tires are breaking traction or not.  Manual steering in a light car is SO much better for driving in snow.

For both cars, the main issue is not road conditions, but visibility.  Still limited to about 40-50mph during night snowstorms because you just can't see much to safely drive faster.

/snow tires are like R-compounds for the winter
 
2013-03-12 11:22:44 PM

Omahawg: it was a pretty scary ice, sleet, blowng snow clusterfark so I stayed home, lady. I stayed home and drank beer and looked outside at the fools trying to drive up the hill in front of my house


but i didn't cry


I live up the road from you in Sioux Falls. When it snows, one of my friends invites people over and we order pizza from every place in town. He lives at the top of a fairly steep hill. There's a back way into his neighborhood that's less steep, but none of the poor bastards delivering pizza seem to know that.

/at least we tip well
 
2013-03-12 11:23:56 PM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: FTFA: The Andersons were in Kearney visiting daughter Kelsey, a junior at the University of Nebraska at Kearney. They started the 200-mile drive home late Sunday morning but turned back after a few hours when they had progressed only about 60 miles.
"It was so scary,'' Karyn said. "I started crying.''
The Andersons were in a four-wheel-drive pickup and creeping along at only 15 mph, yet still slipping and sliding. Blowing snow limited visibility.
They turned around at the Giltner exit and returned to the Kearney Holiday Inn Express, where they had just checked out.

So, let me see if I have this straight.  They left Kearney and made it 60 miles when the storm got to be too much.  So they drove 60 miles back through that same storm to find a room for the night.

[consults Google Maps]

Giltner looks like a post office, a general store and little else; but Grand Island seems to be a fair-sized city.  [consults Wikipedia] Population 48,520.  Was there no lodging in Grand Island?


Grand Island is the scary part of central Nebraska - That's where Children of the Corn IV took place. The churches of Kearney teach that Grand Island is an abomination unto the Lord and is to be avoided at all costs, even death.

// Bonus Question: Kearney, Grand Island and what other city form the "Golden Triangle"? (A great embarrassment for a clueless advertising campaign back in the 1980s)
 
2013-03-12 11:26:31 PM

impaler: 4WD just help you go forward. They do nothing for slowing down or lateral acceleration. Also, they have 2 more tires that can lose traction during acceleration.


That's not entirely accurate.  Locking my diffs is like having antilock brakes - you can't lock one corner without locking them all.

Of course, the penalty for that is that you can no longer steer very well, so you either unlock the diffs for corners or you pitch the car sideways and corner with the throttle, which generally is bad form to do in three lanes of traffic.  Makes people forget what they're trying to text to their BFF.
 
2013-03-12 11:31:50 PM

Bathia_Mapes: FTA: "It was so scary,'' Karyn said. "I started crying.''

The Andersons were in a four-wheel-drive pickup and creeping along at only 15 mph, yet still slipping and sliding. Blowing snow limited visibility.


I don't know about you, submitter, but if I was driving a 4-WD vehicle and was still slipping & sliding around I'd be scared. Add on the decreased visibility from the blowing snow, and I'd be very frightened.

We rarely get snow in my neck of the woods, but when I was in my 20s I had to drive home from the LCC campus in blowing snow at night with little to no visibilty. This trip normally took around 20 minutes, but with the slippery road surface (30th Avenue can be one of the most treacherous streets in town under certain weather conditions) plus lack of visibility, it took me over 2 1/2 hours to get home and my hands were gripping the steering wheel so hard that they hurt. I spent the rest of the evening shaking from the frightening experience.

I guess that makes me a failure in your eyes, but I really don't give a sh*t.



She probably forgot to disengage clutch while coasting.  In a pickup your ass will slide all over if you don't.

Still remember 2 years ago in Austin, February laughing maniacally at all the trucks ditched out while I drove a shiatty little Toyota to work.
 
2013-03-12 11:34:22 PM

Klom Dark: Lee Jackson Beauregard: FTFA: The Andersons were in Kearney visiting daughter Kelsey, a junior at the University of Nebraska at Kearney. They started the 200-mile drive home late Sunday morning but turned back after a few hours when they had progressed only about 60 miles.
"It was so scary,'' Karyn said. "I started crying.''
The Andersons were in a four-wheel-drive pickup and creeping along at only 15 mph, yet still slipping and sliding. Blowing snow limited visibility.
They turned around at the Giltner exit and returned to the Kearney Holiday Inn Express, where they had just checked out.

So, let me see if I have this straight.  They left Kearney and made it 60 miles when the storm got to be too much.  So they drove 60 miles back through that same storm to find a room for the night.

[consults Google Maps]

Giltner looks like a post office, a general store and little else; but Grand Island seems to be a fair-sized city.  [consults Wikipedia] Population 48,520.  Was there no lodging in Grand Island?

Grand Island is the scary part of central Nebraska - That's where Children of the Corn IV took place. The churches of Kearney teach that Grand Island is an abomination unto the Lord and is to be avoided at all costs, even death.

// Bonus Question: Kearney, Grand Island and what other city form the "Golden Triangle"? (A great embarrassment for a clueless advertising campaign back in the 1980s)


hastings? gothenbug? cozad? north splat?
 
2013-03-12 11:50:41 PM
Every chick seems to have some irrational fear of one thing or another.  If you force them to confront it they usually cry.  With my wife it is driving big vehicles.  Big being relative.  She thinks our Subaru legacy is "huge".  Before we were married I once put her in a spot where she had to drive her parents minivan (aerostar) over to my place.  She showed up shaking and in tears and really pissed off at me.  She had less difficulty giving birth to our two boys than she did in driving that van two measly miles.
 
2013-03-12 11:52:50 PM

Mister Peejay: impaler: 4WD just help you go forward. They do nothing for slowing down or lateral acceleration. Also, they have 2 more tires that can lose traction during acceleration.

That's not entirely accurate.  Locking my diffs is like having antilock brakes - you can't lock one corner without locking them all.

Of course, the penalty for that is that you can no longer steer very well, so you either unlock the diffs for corners or you pitch the car sideways and corner with the throttle, which generally is bad form to do in three lanes of traffic.  Makes people forget what they're trying to text to their BFF.


Last winter I drove a Ranger, rear wheel drive standard brakes.  I had trouble with slick ice one day, but had fun with it.  I would purposely slide it once in awhile and would pitch sideways and throttle through corners where ever possible.  This winter we got the 4WD Expedition with ABS and I could not get that thing to slide for nothing while in A4WD.  I did leave it in 2WD one day just to pull the pitch and throttle turn.  I don't take any chances, but it brakes better than any other vehicle I have ever driven.  The kids stopped screaming from the back seat, so it takes all the fun out of it really.

/A4WD is essentially AWD, it also has 4WD high and 4WD low
 
2013-03-13 12:01:36 AM

Ima4nic8or: Every chick seems to have some irrational fear of one thing or another.  If you force them to confront it they usually cry.  With my wife it is driving big vehicles.  Big being relative.  She thinks our Subaru legacy is "huge".  Before we were married I once put her in a spot where she had to drive her parents minivan (aerostar) over to my place.  She showed up shaking and in tears and really pissed off at me.  She had less difficulty giving birth to our two boys than she did in driving that van two measly miles.


My wife's is driving at all.  She can't even sit behind the wheel of a running car, don't even ask her to put it in gear.  Seriously, she has no license.  The last time she tried just backing the van up in the driveway, the van suffered a couple thousand dollars in damages.  She hasn't even sat in a driver's seat since.
 
2013-03-13 12:13:54 AM

lack of warmth: Ima4nic8or: Every chick seems to have some irrational fear of one thing or another.  If you force them to confront it they usually cry.  With my wife it is driving big vehicles.  Big being relative.  She thinks our Subaru legacy is "huge".  Before we were married I once put her in a spot where she had to drive her parents minivan (aerostar) over to my place.  She showed up shaking and in tears and really pissed off at me.  She had less difficulty giving birth to our two boys than she did in driving that van two measly miles.

My wife's is driving at all.  She can't even sit behind the wheel of a running car, don't even ask her to put it in gear.  Seriously, she has no license.  The last time she tried just backing the van up in the driveway, the van suffered a couple thousand dollars in damages.  She hasn't even sat in a driver's seat since.


Sounds like I shouldn't be whining.  I cant imagine how I would make things work if the wife didn't drive.
 
2013-03-13 12:34:27 AM
I've done my fair share of snow-driving, and I'll admit there were a number of occasions when I was genuinely concerned. Drove up to PA over Christmas and had to stop several times to clean the frozen slush off the windshield wipers. Got on the turnpike thinking 'If I'm paying to drive on it, it should be plowed.' Thanks for nothing you Pennsyltucky a-holes.
 
2013-03-13 01:03:38 AM

frostus: But it was only 9 inches of snow. WTF is wrong with those people?


It was the hours of heavy rain that fell earlier and then froze, leaving 1" thickness or more of ice across the roadway. The snow, in and of itself, wasn't so bad. It was also the 25-30mph winds driving that snow, leading to minimal visibility. Worthy of tears? Still no. But also still a very bad time to have been driving.
 
2013-03-13 01:11:55 AM

Omahawg: slayer199: Don't they get snow in Omaha?

We in the northern states laugh at you.

i slept through this one

[i637.photobucket.com image 850x637]


why isn't there snow on top of any of the cars?
 
2013-03-13 01:13:23 AM

Omahawg: driving home tonight could be full of more chuckles even. that north wind has been blowing powdery snow all over the roads all day in that thin sheet of slush that freezes into beautiful black ice. if there's not much of it its fun to go sliding....misjudge how much is on the road though and hey presto there's the ditch


Yup, last night I white knuckled it to make a 130km round trip, a couple hours after they reopened our highway here, but still while travel was not recommended.  Definately one of things I hate most about being stuck on the prairies for the past few years.  The snow here is dry and powdery, so the cross wind blows it on to the highway, in the day the cars stick it to the road and it melts just enough, and then when the sun comes down it slicks over.  Took me 3 1/4 hours to make a normally 90 minute trip.  Even with winter tires the crosswind 40G60kph the car went of center a couple of time, just pucker up and make micro-corrections.  Passed in 3 cars, 2 SUV's, a pick up and the scariest an 18 wheeler facing the wrong way on the passing lane shoulder, too dark to see whether what the story was.

However I will say that it was worse when I was on Vancouver Island for a few years, people there have no idea what to do when it snows.  Seeing some moron in a 4x4 pickup try to pass me, have him disappear into my blindspot and then reappear behind me spinning out into the ditch.  That was pretty scary.
 
2013-03-13 01:14:31 AM

Omahawg: slayer199: Don't they get snow in Omaha?

We in the northern states laugh at you.

i slept through this one

[i637.photobucket.com image 850x637]


1975 was a sucky year to live in Omaha. Triple tornado through downtown after the blizzard.
 
2013-03-13 01:23:03 AM

FourPetesake: Omahawg: slayer199: Don't they get snow in Omaha?

We in the northern states laugh at you.

i slept through this one

[i637.photobucket.com image 850x637]

why isn't there snow on top of any of the cars?


the snow isn't ever the issue here. its the 40 or 50 mile an hour winds that 'cause everything to suck
 
2013-03-13 01:23:08 AM

Oreamnos: frostus: But it was only 9 inches of snow. WTF is wrong with those people?

It was the hours of heavy rain that fell earlier and then froze, leaving 1" thickness or more of ice across the roadway. The snow, in and of itself, wasn't so bad. It was also the 25-30mph winds driving that snow, leading to minimal visibility. Worthy of tears? Still no. But also still a very bad time to have been driving.


Yes, it would suck to drive in that.
 
2013-03-13 01:33:13 AM
4runner & studded hakka 7's. Last storm got off the stopped freeway with the morons skidding into ditches and high tailed it cross country on the gravel. Fun times blasting through the drifts.
 
2013-03-13 01:36:46 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: [i47.tinypic.com image 465x620]

This was my town a couple of weeks ago. The kicker is that the bus drove off without them.


Ah, an OC Transpo bus in the snow. Don't you just love the jackknifing articulated buses?
 
2013-03-13 02:14:00 AM

Ima4nic8or: lack of warmth: Ima4nic8or: Every chick seems to have some irrational fear of one thing or another.  If you force them to confront it they usually cry.  With my wife it is driving big vehicles.  Big being relative.  She thinks our Subaru legacy is "huge".  Before we were married I once put her in a spot where she had to drive her parents minivan (aerostar) over to my place.  She showed up shaking and in tears and really pissed off at me.  She had less difficulty giving birth to our two boys than she did in driving that van two measly miles.

My wife's is driving at all.  She can't even sit behind the wheel of a running car, don't even ask her to put it in gear.  Seriously, she has no license.  The last time she tried just backing the van up in the driveway, the van suffered a couple thousand dollars in damages.  She hasn't even sat in a driver's seat since.

Sounds like I shouldn't be whining.  I cant imagine how I would make things work if the wife didn't drive.


My grandmother never learned to drive.  Then again, she's nearly 90 years old and grew up in a time and place where men were the ones who did all the driving.
 
2013-03-13 02:15:21 AM
I have a little 2WD Chevy S-10 pickup. Driving on icy roads is the same as on cleared road except for a few minor adjustments. For example to make a right turn: Turn the steering wheel to the left and let the the back end side out making a 270 degree rotation. It's lots of fun!
 
2013-03-13 03:23:04 AM
So, there are times you shouldn't drive if you're not up to navigating the weather conditions...and there are times you shouldn't travel if you're not up to dealing with the BS associated with mass transit during weather conditions.  Are we done here?
 
2013-03-13 06:30:06 AM

Mr. Lepage: Canadian. Getting a kick, etc.


Yes, friendly neighbors to the north, this is your thread in which to shine.  Please be responsible.
 
2013-03-13 07:22:25 AM

Twitch Boy: [media.caranddriver.com image 850x519]

Stop crying.  Start laughing.


Looks real nice with a fresh wash parked 20 feet off the highway by a river.

I bet you're the first one to slide off the road when they get a little icy though
 
2013-03-13 08:16:52 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: [i47.tinypic.com image 465x620]

This was my town a couple of weeks ago. The kicker is that the bus drove off without them.


Hey, I know those buses.  Sounds about right for OC Transpo.

Something like 200 bus accidents that day if I recall correctly.
 
2013-03-13 08:23:49 AM
Meanwhile, up in New Brunswick, a 67 year old retiree is driving through a snowstorm while drinking a coffee, having a smoke, changing the Beatles CD in his car and wondering if he should drive straight up to Riviere de Loup to visit the kids or stop at the strip club the other side of the border and see in Francoise is still working the "massage" trade and call ahead and tell 'em that the snow was making him tired and he decided to crash at a motel rather than take a chance, blah blah blah.
 
2013-03-13 09:29:42 AM

Ima4nic8or: lack of warmth: Ima4nic8or: Every chick seems to have some irrational fear of one thing or another.  If you force them to confront it they usually cry.  With my wife it is driving big vehicles.  Big being relative.  She thinks our Subaru legacy is "huge".  Before we were married I once put her in a spot where she had to drive her parents minivan (aerostar) over to my place.  She showed up shaking and in tears and really pissed off at me.  She had less difficulty giving birth to our two boys than she did in driving that van two measly miles.

My wife's is driving at all.  She can't even sit behind the wheel of a running car, don't even ask her to put it in gear.  Seriously, she has no license.  The last time she tried just backing the van up in the driveway, the van suffered a couple thousand dollars in damages.  She hasn't even sat in a driver's seat since.

Sounds like I shouldn't be whining.  I cant imagine how I would make things work if the wife didn't drive.


I think your wife still got the worst deal out of all of you. She has to sit next to your dim-witted left-lane blocking ass as you putt putt down the highway pissing everybody off. Riding with people like you is the worst.
 
2013-03-13 10:06:46 AM

Krazikarl: The thing that scares me about snow is the other drivers.  I know how to drive in snow. But some people just have no clue, and I'd rather that they didn't take me out too when they do something stupid.


Here's the thing: you don't have to know how to drive in snow. You just have to know how to drive. The reason why more accidents happen is that people think they need to drive differently in snow. Slow drivers cause accidents.

/born and raised in Buffalo NY
 
2013-03-13 10:07:37 AM

neilbradley: If you get to the point of crying, you shouldn't be on the road. Period.


Periods are the problem!
 
2013-03-13 10:09:25 AM

SirEattonHogg: I was a few feet from pancaking into the next car, quite a few times.


Also known as "normal stopping distance".
 
2013-03-13 10:36:25 AM

Bullseyed: Buffalo


I've driven from Buffalo to Rochester through some of the most blinding snow ever (Batavia, NY, anyone?).  A little nerve-wracking but I never thought I was going to cry.
 
2013-03-13 08:18:59 PM
I was driving through Wyoming in a U-haul last month on I-80 roads were pretty bad. Lot of semi's and cars off the road. I was going around 50 and some guy passed me. I let off the gas to give him some distance and sure enough he spun around in circles and went off the road into the ditch. I did stop to check on him, looked at the road while I was at it. A dusting of snow over 1 1/2 inches of ice.  After that it was 30-40 mph for 70 miles till it cleared up. Whiteknuckle yes, didn't cry. Though if I knew about all the tickets I was going to get in Oregon I would have just gone ahead and cried.
 
2013-03-14 04:45:41 AM

Intoxoman: I was driving through Wyoming in a U-haul last month on I-80 roads were pretty bad. Lot of semi's and cars off the road. I was going around 50 and some guy passed me. I let off the gas to give him some distance and sure enough he spun around in circles and went off the road into the ditch. I did stop to check on him, looked at the road while I was at it. A dusting of snow over 1 1/2 inches of ice.  After that it was 30-40 mph for 70 miles till it cleared up. Whiteknuckle yes, didn't cry. Though if I knew about all the tickets I was going to get in Oregon I would have just gone ahead and cried.


Wyoming is the worst.  When the wife and I moved to Denver from Vancouver, I was driving the U-Haul, towing my car, and they were apparently closing all roads RIGHT behind us.  Zero visibility, can't see the road past 10 feet in front of you, and no where to stop until you get to I-25 and civilization.  That was one memorable Christmas Eve.
 
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