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(Omaha World Herald)   "It was so scary. I started crying." This woman is talking about: A) Getting robbed at gunpoint; B) Skydiving; C) Driving in snow   (omaha.com) divider line 142
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2013-03-12 07:20:16 PM
I suspect that that driving in snow results from more deaths than the other two combined.
 
2013-03-12 07:28:34 PM
When was my wife in Nebraska?
 
2013-03-12 07:29:14 PM
I haven't cried

/I have bitten a couple of buttonholes in the seat of my underwear, though
 
2013-03-12 07:34:25 PM
Um ...

This truly is perfect for Fark. Not news at all.
 
2013-03-12 07:36:26 PM
I've driven exactly once in snow.  It was a little bit scary.   Black ice and cars in ditches all around me.
 
2013-03-12 07:41:45 PM
I've never gotten to the point of crying, but my knuckles are whiter than sheets when I'm driving in snow.
 
2013-03-12 07:53:41 PM
In San Diego, if it even looks like it might rain, all bets are off on the freeway.  This is doubly confusing because nobody farking grew up here and I see more Red Sox and Yankees hats than Padres and Chargers gear combined.  If it snowed here I can't imagine the horror.
 
2013-03-12 07:53:55 PM
If it's bad enough, it can damned well be scary.  Crying probably doesn't help, but, yknow.  Girls.
 
2013-03-12 08:11:19 PM
The thing that scares me about snow is the other drivers.  I know how to drive in snow. But some people just have no clue, and I'd rather that they didn't take me out too when they do something stupid.
 
2013-03-12 08:11:40 PM
it was a pretty scary ice, sleet, blowng snow clusterfark so I stayed home, lady. I stayed home and drank beer and looked outside at the fools trying to drive up the hill in front of my house


but i didn't cry
 
2013-03-12 08:12:57 PM
The answer is always C
 
2013-03-12 08:13:19 PM
Skydiving isn't scary, it's calming, especially once the chute is deployed.

Just up in the air, floating around without a care in the world.

and OTOH, we have FREEZING WATER FALLING FROM THE SKY!!!
 
2013-03-12 08:13:54 PM
Surprised she isn't a Texan. Their inability to drive in inclement weather is the stuff of legends.
 
2013-03-12 08:13:59 PM
Well, she IS a woman.  Driving is not exactly first nature to her.
 
2013-03-12 08:14:07 PM
If you get to the point of crying, you shouldn't be on the road. Period.
 
2013-03-12 08:14:11 PM
FTA: "It was so scary,'' Karyn said. "I started crying.''

The Andersons were in a four-wheel-drive pickup and creeping along at only 15 mph, yet still slipping and sliding. Blowing snow limited visibility.


I don't know about you, submitter, but if I was driving a 4-WD vehicle and was still slipping & sliding around I'd be scared. Add on the decreased visibility from the blowing snow, and I'd be very frightened.

We rarely get snow in my neck of the woods, but when I was in my 20s I had to drive home from the LCC campus in blowing snow at night with little to no visibilty. This trip normally took around 20 minutes, but with the slippery road surface (30th Avenue can be one of the most treacherous streets in town under certain weather conditions) plus lack of visibility, it took me over 2 1/2 hours to get home and my hands were gripping the steering wheel so hard that they hurt. I spent the rest of the evening shaking from the frightening experience.

I guess that makes me a failure in your eyes, but I really don't give a sh*t.
 
2013-03-12 08:17:23 PM
I understand and accept that winter driving skills are a spectrum, and some folks fall on the short end. If it is seriously so bad it's making you cry...pull off.  There is nothing wrong with admitting you're in over your head. Just remove yourself from the situation. Maybe just long enough to take a few breaths, pull yourself together grit your teeth and continue on. Maybe you check into a motel or hang out at a rest stop until the worst passes. But please don't ADD to the threat level by driving in a state of panic.
 
2013-03-12 08:17:54 PM
I've driven plenty in the snow when I lived in the midwest.  But nothing prepared me for driving with chains on the tires coming back from the mountains (from a skiing trip).   I don't know about crying,  but I was really, really stressed.   Your car is slipping and slidding on a very inclined downward angle and there are both cars and trucks around you.  I was a few feet from pancaking into the next car, quite a few times.

Atleast in the midwest, everything is flat.  And everyone understands that really you should be driving nice and slow in icy conditions.  Oh, and they salt/sand the roads.
 
2013-03-12 08:18:17 PM
Driving in snow can be scary.
 
2013-03-12 08:18:46 PM
Snow isn't too difficult to drive in.  Ice on the other hand, scares the crap out of me.  I'll take a foot of snow over a 1/4 inch of ice any day.
 
2013-03-12 08:19:34 PM

Krazikarl: The thing that scares me about snow is the other drivers.  I know how to drive in snow. But some people just have no clue, and I'd rather that they didn't take me out too when they do something stupid.


THIS.  I grew up in a hilly CT town, so I'm pretty decent at driving in the snow.  I've never hit anything or spun out in the snow.  I've only gotten stuck once, on an exit ramp trying to escape my 5-hour trek on I-84 from New Britain to Manchester four or five years ago.  I just took the shovel out of my car, cleared a path for my tires, and kept sliding my way home.  It amazes me how often I see people sliding off the road, into curbs, etc.
 
2013-03-12 08:19:49 PM
Here's an appropriate shirt.

streetcar1320.com
 
2013-03-12 08:21:52 PM
Yeah, I've been driving in snow like that. I think my blood pressure was about 390/240 when I got home.

I did not, however, cry.
 
2013-03-12 08:21:56 PM
Wimps.

Up here in the north, we used to drive in snow for 1/3 of the year. And not just light dustings, either. We had blizzards, ice storms, and freezing rain thunderstorms. Hailstones the size of marbles or golf balls, sometimes. We did it without chains or 4WD, too.

The only people that need to fear much in snowstorms are the ones who think that they can drive fast. Drive slow, be careful, and don't try to pass anyone. Keep a safe distance between yourself and the vehicles in front of you and behind you. Realize that if you do need to hit the brakes, you're going to need quite a bit of extra space to stop. Don't brake on a turn (brake BEFORE the turn if you need to, and then only tapping them) and don't try to drive through anything that is taller than the distance from the ground to the bottom of your vehicle. Never assume that a snow bank is JUST snow-- There's a pretty good chance there's a huge chunk of ice, a rock, or who-knows-what in the middle of it somewhere.

I used to have to drive to school and work every day in shiatty weather like that. Blizzards up here were no excuse for missing school or work, unless it was just plain impossible to get around.

The winters aren't as bad up here now (because apparently we're now sharing winter with people further south. Enjoy it, snowbirds!) but we still get a lot of snow from January through March.

Of course, don't drive if you don't have to. It's far better to stay home, have a hot cocoa, and make love down by the fire.
 
2013-03-12 08:25:17 PM
But it was only 9 inches of snow. WTF is wrong with those people?
 
2013-03-12 08:25:17 PM

Omahawg: it was a pretty scary ice, sleet, blowng snow clusterfark so I stayed home, lady. I stayed home and drank beer and looked outside at the fools trying to drive up the hill in front of my house


but i didn't cry


NO you were too busy laughing.
 
2013-03-12 08:27:30 PM
Is this the thread where [male] farkers proclaim their superior driving abilities, denigrate female drivers, and make fun of 4 wheel drive vehicles stuck in ditches?
 
2013-03-12 08:27:41 PM
SnakeLee:
In San Diego, if it even looks like it  might rain, all bets are off on the freeway.  This is doubly confusing because nobody farking grew up here and I see more Red Sox and Yankees hats than Padres and Chargers gear combined.  If it snowed here I can't imagine the horror.

Condolences on the Yankee fans.  We get too many of those here too.
 
2013-03-12 08:30:56 PM

kittyhas1000legs: Krazikarl: The thing that scares me about snow is the other drivers.  I know how to drive in snow. But some people just have no clue, and I'd rather that they didn't take me out too when they do something stupid.

THIS.  I grew up in a hilly CT town, so I'm pretty decent at driving in the snow.  I've never hit anything or spun out in the snow.  I've only gotten stuck once, on an exit ramp trying to escape my 5-hour trek on I-84 from New Britain to Manchester four or five years ago.  I just took the shovel out of my car, cleared a path for my tires, and kept sliding my way home.  It amazes me how often I see people sliding off the road, into curbs, etc.


When I lived in Salt Lake City, the most dangerous part of driving in the snow was the transplanted Californians in SUVs who (apparently) believed that 4WD made them invulnerable.

/Drove home from Wendover, NV in a blizzard once...at night.  That was kind of tiring.  Hardly died at all, though, and no crying.
 
2013-03-12 08:31:27 PM
If only she could be one of those people that get buried by a snow plow and isn't found until the first week in April.
 
2013-03-12 08:32:06 PM

Bathia_Mapes: I don't know about you, submitter, but if I was driving a 4-WD vehicle and was still slipping & sliding around I'd be scared.


Then you're doing it badly wrong. 4WD is not a panacea, but it can help.
 
2013-03-12 08:33:39 PM
I live in lake-effect country, so I'm getting a kick out of...

Seriously, though, I'm a snow-driving veteran and there have still been times I've needed to change into my brown pants.

CSB:  First day at a new job, I had a 50-mile commute in a horrible blizzard.  There's this spot on the freeway between two municipalities that apparently no one claims responsibility for plowing, so that particular stretch of road is always terrible.  I'm being overtaken by a gasoline tanker going 20mph, when suddenly I see headlights in front of me.  Then tail lights.  Then headlights again.  The car in front of me is spinning in circles and heading right into the path of the gasoline tanker that currently has me boxed in.  I can't stop, the tanker can't stop, and I just have this vision that this is going to end in a giant snowy fireball.

Thankfully the spinning car slid straight through into the median and missed hitting anything, and the tanker and I drove right past.  Still the scariest moment of my life right there, though.
 
2013-03-12 08:34:50 PM
A few years back I drove some friends to vermont for a ski trip. We showed up during a four day, three foot dump of snow. For the last two hours getting to Stratton, i had thw pedal pegged to the floor, wheels spinning like mad and going about twenty five. Greatest weekend of skiing I'v ever had, but it took a full day for my teeth to unclench.
 
2013-03-12 08:35:26 PM

FizixJunkee: Is this the thread where [male] farkers proclaim their superior driving abilities, denigrate female drivers, and make fun of 4 wheel drive vehicles stuck in ditches?


No way. The women up here in the north would laugh at the chickenshiat male drivers down south who freak out and spin themselves into ditches at the first sign of snow or ice.

But wait, yeah, it IS fun to make fun of 4WD vehicles stuck in ditches, because up here we know that most of `em end up that way because they were being assholes on the road, putting all their faith in their awesome SUV or pickup, thinking that it made it okay for them to whip past other drivers at 20 mph over the speed limit when everyone else is driving a sensible 15-20 mph under it.

So no to the making fun of women. Yes to the making fun of southerners who freak out in snow and 4WD owners who don't have any common sense.
 
2013-03-12 08:37:11 PM
cdn.epicski.com

Man up, weepy lady.
 
2013-03-12 08:37:32 PM

Krazikarl: The thing that scares me about snow is the other drivers.  I know how to drive in snow. But some people just have no clue, and I'd rather that they didn't take me out too when they do something stupid.


This is the thing that basically everyone says.  Even the people in the ditches said it.
 
2013-03-12 08:37:48 PM
People around here always forget the two best things to make sure are working well come winter for driving are your brakes and a good set of tires. Was driving in Omaha on Sunday and some little Tiburon in front of me would veer off an entire lane to the right every time it tried to stop for a light, didn't matter how fast it was going. Was comical until I got to the point that I needed to turn right and they were still in front of me.
 
2013-03-12 08:38:05 PM

ravenlore: If it is seriously so bad it's making you cry...pull off.


This.
I grew up in upstate NY...many feet of snow over the winter. I've driven everything from a Fiat sports car to a 2WD pickup through major blizzards.

If you can't handle it, stay off the road. You are a hazard to yourself and everyone else. Nothing is that important.
 
2013-03-12 08:38:20 PM
Is this where I point and laugh?

I'm Canadian, and drive a Subaru with winter tires. It makes driving on snow and ice feel like cheating.
 
2013-03-12 08:38:41 PM

FizixJunkee: Is this the thread where [male] farkers proclaim their superior driving abilities, denigrate female drivers, and make fun of 4 wheel drive vehicles stuck in ditches?


THE thread?  No.
 
2013-03-12 08:39:22 PM
CSB:  I drive a snow plow.  Not one of those 1.2 tons trucks with a blade on it.  It's a highway tandem with a nose plow, underbody plow and a wing.  People don't know when to stay the fark off the roads.  I helps one old gentlemen out of the ditch this morning.  I asked him what was so important to risk driving with ice covered highways, before dawn, with over a foot of snow in places.

he replield that he had to go for morning coffee with his friends.

/facepalm

If you cant see the road, stay the fark off it, and let the highway maintenance people do their job.  It makes our job easier and faster,  The life you save may be your own.
 
2013-03-12 08:39:34 PM
Canadian. Getting a kick, etc.
 
2013-03-12 08:39:53 PM
Words to live by:
4WheelDrive does not mean 4WheelStop.
 
2013-03-12 08:40:35 PM
Thanks to 25 years in Alaska, I would have been doing 90 down the interstate in my MINI.  It's just a little snow.  Shoot, we got 8+ inches of snow last Sunday.  It didn't make the news, and I sure didn't cry...
 
2013-03-12 08:41:07 PM

Krazikarl: The thing that scares me about snow is the other drivers.  I know how to drive in snow. But some people just have no clue, and I'd rather that they didn't take me out too when they do something stupid.


This. In both Memphis and D.C., driving in mild snow is a hair raising experience due to the large number of folks unaccustomed to snow combining with people that DO know how to drive in snow.
 
2013-03-12 08:41:54 PM
biatches better never move to OH or MI.

Or even worse, ME.

/front wheel drive
//passing slow asses
 
2013-03-12 08:41:59 PM
I live in Vermont.
Roads are 3' deep ruts of mud right now, due to tanker trucks hauling sap.
Plan your route.
Get good tires.
Plan a secondary route.
Have enough gas.
Plan a tertiary route.
Don't drive where you won't survive.

Driving in snow isn't hard.
Driving on black ice is difficult.

But don't start crying.
That's nature's way of telling you to pull over and let the drivers who know how to drive pass you.
 
2013-03-12 08:42:35 PM

Glitchwerks: [cdn.epicski.com image 720x480]

Man up, weepy lady.


That!
/is what I drive.
 
2013-03-12 08:42:53 PM
I don't care if she is a woman, if she's a Nebraskan she has no excuse.  It's like being a Hawaiian who can't swim.
 
2013-03-12 08:43:55 PM

kittyhas1000legs: Krazikarl: The thing that scares me about snow is the other drivers.  I know how to drive in snow. But some people just have no clue, and I'd rather that they didn't take me out too when they do something stupid.

THIS.  I grew up in a hilly CT town, so I'm pretty decent at driving in the snow.  I've never hit anything or spun out in the snow.  I've only gotten stuck once, on an exit ramp trying to escape my 5-hour trek on I-84 from New Britain to Manchester four or five years ago.  I just took the shovel out of my car, cleared a path for my tires, and kept sliding my way home.  It amazes me how often I see people sliding off the road, into curbs, etc.


I grew up in northeastern Nevada, Elko to be precise. That northern strip gets the entire allotment of snow for the state. Most of my driving lessons ended up being in blizzards while driving over summits with no chains to speak of. I had a girlfriend who attended Boise State University and I shuttled her around between Boise and Elko during holidays, before I moved up to Boise too. Two Thanksgivings and Christmases in a row (each) and one Spring farking Break I had to drive her back and forth in blizzards on 250 miles unplowed roads with maybe three feet of visibility around me with frequent steep declines and drop-offs on either side of the road. There are times that I'm not even entirely sure I was even actually on the road. The conditions in all cases never let up. It was shiatty from Mountain City Highway to Wildhorse, through the Canyon, on to Mountain Home and straight through to the Broadway exit and up to the goddamn door of Driscoll Hall. Never once had an accident or even came close to one. Barely even tensed up throughout my driving experience. I moved to the San Francisco Bay Area a few years ago and anytime it rains while I'm on 580, 680 or 880 has been the only tense time I've ever had driving in adverse weather. And not even from the weather itself. We get a slight drizzle out here and the roads become anarchy. It turns into some bastard amalgamation of the asteroid scene in Empire Strike Back and some farked up game of Frogger. People lose their shiat and act like it's raining fire and brimstone and they must get to shelter. You're lucky to get home in one piece because people have no idea how to handle a little God-piss.
 
2013-03-12 08:45:14 PM
I hate driving in snow

/ snows Sept-June here
//sigh
 
2013-03-12 08:46:27 PM
I would have guessed it was some Farker who saw a firearm in person for the first time.
 
2013-03-12 08:46:55 PM
Living in the Omaha area, it never ceases to amaze me that people apparently don't have some kind of internal compass that allows them to have the thought, "Gee, it looks pretty bad out. Maybe I can hold off on making that run to the grocery store."

And, for those not familiar with these types of storms, the wind really ups the ante. Sure, there were slick spots (when it's still on the road, it's all slick, just to varying degrees), but the blowing snow is bad for both visibility and having your vehicle pushed around by the gusts.

It also seems like most drivers are at one extreme or another. I prefer to attempt to be cautious but not stupid, but there are those who crawl along at five miles per hour, and when you look over, there usually the ones you'd look at and silently pray that Gertie's cataracts are minor. Then, there are the "four wheel drive gives me the ability to approach the bad weather as if it were a race" types. I have to admit that I get a sense of schadenfreude when I see them in ditches.
 
2013-03-12 08:47:05 PM
I drive in snow all the time, and yes there are still a few major storms that are harrowing.  This last winter had one of the worst blizzards I've driven in - the actual road wasn't too terrible, I mean it was slippery but nothing too unexpected - but with how hard the snow was coming down and how much blowing there was, I honestly couldn't tell where the road was for much of the trip; all I could see was white on white and the snow quickly obscured any tracks the previous vehicles had left.  I only knew I was still on the road because I hadn't gotten stuck in a snow bank.
 
2013-03-12 08:47:16 PM

fireclown: A few years back I drove some friends to vermont for a ski trip. We showed up during a four day, three foot dump of snow. For the last two hours getting to Stratton, i had thw pedal pegged to the floor, wheels spinning like mad and going about twenty five. Greatest weekend of skiing I'v ever had, but it took a full day for my teeth to unclench.


That was a fun one. I stayed at work for two days because I couldn't get up my driveway. Had to wait for the town to finally plow my street so my plow guy could clear the driveway for us.
 
2013-03-12 08:47:27 PM

Glitchwerks: [cdn.epicski.com image 720x480]

Man up, weepy lady.


Yeeeeeeeesssssssss.

/WRX FTW
 
2013-03-12 08:47:37 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: ravenlore: If it is seriously so bad it's making you cry...pull off.

This.
I grew up in upstate NY...many feet of snow over the winter. I've driven everything from a Fiat sports car to a 2WD pickup through major blizzards.

If you can't handle it, stay off the road. You are a hazard to yourself and everyone else. Nothing is that important.


You northerners don't know what hazardous driving is. Snow is easy. You should drive in one of our ice storms. Trust me, you will wish for snow every time.
 
2013-03-12 08:48:38 PM
Nick Nostril:  I would have guessed it was some Farker who saw a firearm in person for the first time.


This is 'Mericuh.  There are Americans who haven't seen firearms before?
 
2013-03-12 08:49:48 PM

SirEattonHogg: Nick Nostril:  I would have guessed it was some Farker who saw a firearm in person for the first time.


This is 'Mericuh.  There are Americans who haven't seen firearms before?


I've seen firearms in person, but I've never held one.

\not kidding
 
2013-03-12 08:49:53 PM
driving home tonight could be full of more chuckles even. that north wind has been blowing powdery snow all over the roads all day in that thin sheet of slush that freezes into beautiful black ice. if there's not much of it its fun to go sliding....misjudge how much is on the road though and hey presto there's the ditch
 
2013-03-12 08:50:27 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Words to live by:
4WheelDrive does not mean 4WheelStop.


And don't project your lack of driving skill onto others. Just because you're taxing your skills while driving 10 under doesn't mean everyone else is.
 
2013-03-12 08:51:03 PM

lordargent: Skydiving isn't scary, it's calming, especially once the chute is deployed.

Just up in the air, floating around without a care in the world.


This with a side of this.  Freefall calms my mind and makes me smile.  It's the assholes in SUVs who scare me.
 
2013-03-12 08:51:27 PM

neilbradley: If you get to the point of crying, you shouldn't be on the road. Period.


... during any weather conditions.
 
2013-03-12 08:52:10 PM
Yea. Right. I'll remember how not scary it is the next time some jackwagon is coming at me sideways in his Accord because he doesn't know what the hell he's doing...

/ had to drive off the edge of the road into somebody's yard
// he went nose-first in a ditch and I kept going
 
2013-03-12 08:52:16 PM

ZeroCorpse: FizixJunkee: Is this the thread where [male] farkers proclaim their superior driving abilities, denigrate female drivers, and make fun of 4 wheel drive vehicles stuck in ditches?

No way. The women up here in the north would laugh at the chickenshiat male drivers down south who freak out and spin themselves into ditches at the first sign of snow or ice.

But wait, yeah, it IS fun to make fun of 4WD vehicles stuck in ditches, because up here we know that most of `em end up that way because they were being assholes on the road, putting all their faith in their awesome SUV or pickup, thinking that it made it okay for them to whip past other drivers at 20 mph over the speed limit when everyone else is driving a sensible 15-20 mph under it.

So no to the making fun of women. Yes to the making fun of southerners who freak out in snow and 4WD owners who don't have any common sense.


I'm kind of curious if this woman actually thought to put the vehicle in 4WD. Many 4WD vehicles stay in 2WD unless they actively put it in 4WD. Someone from down south or someone who's never had one before may not know that.

/Only been in a ditch once from snow, and that time was because the snowstorm I was trying to beat home won the race and it was the slippery shiat.
 
2013-03-12 08:52:19 PM
media.caranddriver.com

Stop crying.  Start laughing.
 
2013-03-12 08:53:04 PM
I grew up in Michigan, never had a an accident, always drove in snow blah blah blah.  I even have an Audi with Quattro and put winter rubber on come November but nothing could prepare me from chaining up and driving in the Cascades in the heavy snow.  I had a few situations where I almost shiat myself heading up Mt. Hood in the winter.  Inclines and slippery roads are a nightmare.  To those of you who live in the mountains year round, I salute you.  When (albeit very rarely) it snows in the valley I stay the fark home.  People around here have no idea, seeing as how it happens once every few years.  Also, Asians.
 
2013-03-12 08:54:47 PM
ZeroCorpse:

Drive slow, be careful, and don't try to pass anyone.

This. I tried to do this and slid into a ditch on the interstate, at night.  Luckily someone saw me and called 911 or I would have died from the cold.
 
2013-03-12 08:57:09 PM

SnakeLee: In San Diego, if it even looks like it might rain, all bets are off on the freeway.  This is doubly confusing because nobody farking grew up here and I see more Red Sox and Yankees hats than Padres and Chargers gear combined.  If it snowed here I can't imagine the horror.


I just moved to San Diego.  Driving past a car upside down on the road during a rain storm is truly perplexing to me.  In all my years in Minnesota - I've never see someone who can accomplish that.  But here - if a drop of water falls - people's understanding of friction, gravity, and common sense disappear.
 
2013-03-12 08:57:44 PM
Wow. Living in omaha here, drove Sunday, wasnt that bad. Saw worse in the U.P.
 
2013-03-12 08:57:49 PM
I grew up in the Sierras. I didn't realize until recently that people in the midwest didn't use chains. Heavy snow, narrow mountain roads, cliff on one side, strange wind conditions... Driving up there is one of the many reasons I moved to the coast. I'll be riding my bike home now.
 
2013-03-12 08:59:35 PM
FTFA: The Andersons were in Kearney visiting daughter Kelsey, a junior at the University of Nebraska at Kearney. They started the 200-mile drive home late Sunday morning but turned back after a few hours when they had progressed only about 60 miles.
"It was so scary,'' Karyn said. "I started crying.''
The Andersons were in a four-wheel-drive pickup and creeping along at only 15 mph, yet still slipping and sliding. Blowing snow limited visibility.
They turned around at the Giltner exit and returned to the Kearney Holiday Inn Express, where they had just checked out.


So, let me see if I have this straight.  They left Kearney and made it 60 miles when the storm got to be too much.  So they drove 60 miles back through that same storm to find a room for the night.

[consults Google Maps]

Giltner looks like a post office, a general store and little else; but Grand Island seems to be a fair-sized city.  [consults Wikipedia] Population 48,520.  Was there no lodging in Grand Island?
 
2013-03-12 08:59:40 PM

Bathia_Mapes: I don't know about you, submitter, but if I was driving a 4-WD vehicle and was still slipping & sliding around I'd be scared


4WD isn't farkin' magic. It's 4WD. If you have the wrong tires, the road's unploughed, you're a bad driver, or any number of important considerations were had, you'd be slippin' and slidin' too.

But if you're so upset about it you're gonna cry you're the most dangerous part of the equation. You can flip a farkin' Abrams tank on a flat, closed track with no obstacles if you go totally hysterical. If you're in the pilot's seat, you gotta hold your shiat together. Cry later.
 
2013-03-12 09:02:34 PM
It was pretty sketchy....is why I stayed home. I know others who didn't.
 
2013-03-12 09:03:29 PM

FizixJunkee: Is this the thread where [male] farkers proclaim their superior driving abilities, denigrate female drivers, and make fun of 4 wheel drive vehicles stuck in ditches?


It's cheating to look before you ask.
 
2013-03-12 09:04:06 PM
4WD just help you go forward. They do nothing for slowing down or lateral acceleration. Also, they have 2 more tires that can lose traction during acceleration.
 
2013-03-12 09:07:48 PM

crotchgrabber: I grew up in the Sierras. I didn't realize until recently that people in the midwest didn't use chains. Heavy snow, narrow mountain roads, cliff on one side, strange wind conditions... Driving up there is one of the many reasons I moved to the coast. I'll be riding my bike home now.


I bought my first set of chains when I moved to Oregon.  Also a yoga mat for my trunk.  Why you ask?  Because my knees looked my skanky ex-gf's by the time I was finished my first shoulder, snowy chainup session.  Thankfully I practiced in my parking garage before heading out, but still took longer than it should.
 
2013-03-12 09:08:13 PM

Raoul Eaton: FizixJunkee: Is this the thread where [male] farkers proclaim their superior driving abilities, denigrate female drivers, and make fun of 4 wheel drive vehicles stuck in ditches?

It's cheating to look before you ask.


I didn't look beforehand.
 
2013-03-12 09:08:42 PM

Fast Moon: I live in lake-effect country, so I'm getting a kick out of...

Seriously, though, I'm a snow-driving veteran and there have still been times I've needed to change into my brown pants.

CSB:  First day at a new job, I had a 50-mile commute in a horrible blizzard.  There's this spot on the freeway between two municipalities that apparently no one claims responsibility for plowing, so that particular stretch of road is always terrible.  I'm being overtaken by a gasoline tanker going 20mph, when suddenly I see headlights in front of me.  Then tail lights.  Then headlights again.  The car in front of me is spinning in circles and heading right into the path of the gasoline tanker that currently has me boxed in.  I can't stop, the tanker can't stop, and I just have this vision that this is going to end in a giant snowy fireball.

Thankfully the spinning car slid straight through into the median and missed hitting anything, and the tanker and I drove right past.  Still the scariest moment of my life right there, though.


Nice, stuck between a suicide attempt and a death wish.
 
2013-03-12 09:10:27 PM
The last time it snowed here was in 1975.
imageshack.us
 
2013-03-12 09:10:54 PM

Nick Nostril: YouPeopleAreCrazy: Words to live by:
4WheelDrive does not mean 4WheelStop.

And don't project your lack of driving skill onto others. Just because you're taxing your skills while driving 10 under doesn't mean everyone else is.


No, he's right. People in 4WD vehicles frequently don't get that just because they can move a little faster in the snow, it doesn't mean that their stopping distance is better than a 2WD. In fact, it's often worse because they're usually heavier and they  are  going faster.

And 4WD won't do anything for your allegedly-skilled driving ass if you speed into black ice and hit your brakes.
 
2013-03-12 09:20:59 PM

SirEattonHogg: SnakeLee:
In San Diego, if it even looks like it  might rain, all bets are off on the freeway.  This is doubly confusing because nobody farking grew up here and I see more Red Sox and Yankees hats than Padres and Chargers gear combined.  If it snowed here I can't imagine the horror.

Condolences on the Yankee fans.  We get too many of those here too.


Bloomberg needs to round them all up and take them back to Utopia. It would be for their own good really.
 
2013-03-12 09:22:45 PM
www.omaha.com

See the nice thing about driving in the UP is that by January you never really worry about this because the snow banks are so high on the sides of the roads they tend to stop you from going that far.
 
2013-03-12 09:23:43 PM

MisterTweak: I suspect that that driving in snow results from more deaths than the other two combined.


I do not know of any deaths that have resulted in snow-driving experiences.
 
2013-03-12 09:23:54 PM

UP_Islander: Wow. Living in omaha here, drove Sunday, wasnt that bad. Saw worse in the U.P.


Agreed, I went to the gym around 2 or 3, then on a beer run at 6. Didn't have any problems, but saw a few cars in the ditch.
 
2013-03-12 09:32:09 PM
Must have been a slow day at the OWH. People being scared of weather conditions when they had advanced warning and know it is common for the area should learn to grow up a bit.
 
2013-03-12 09:33:18 PM

Glitchwerks: [cdn.epicski.com image 720x480]

Man up, weepy lady.


If everyone had ice tires then it might be OK.  Not everyone is a rich sob though.
 
2013-03-12 09:34:20 PM
awwwwwww, muffin!
 
2013-03-12 09:37:22 PM

dennysgod: [www.omaha.com image 598x358]

See the nice thing about driving in the UP is that by January you never really worry about this because the snow banks are so high on the sides of the roads they tend to stop you from going that far.


I was hoping a yooper would weigh in.  My sil went from being like the lady in the story when she lived near me to someone who hardly slows down for snow then calls us loopers wimps after becoming a yooper herself.  I think it is interesting that the native Indians mark the interstate with sticks before the first snow.  I have been in the UP during Jan. and I recall that was the only markers that could be seen above the snow.
 
2013-03-12 09:37:25 PM
OK I almost cried last time I had to drive in serious snow. I had gone in to work but they ended up sending us home. Couldn't see the road, it was snowing so fast no plows could keep up, so many cars in ditches you had no hope of getting a tow truck (they were all working serious accidents), plus I was mostly worried that if I came to a stop on any incline I would get stuck and have to walk (because I knew my family members and friends were all already basically trapped) and would get hit by a car. I mean, I brought my snow boots because I figured I might have to walk 8 miles home- but I definitely *would* have cried if I did.

YES I AM A BABY. Sometimes I cry during sitcoms.
 
2013-03-12 09:44:13 PM
I AM GOING TO USE THIs THREAD TO SAY THAT FRENCH PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF DRIVING IN THE SNOW. farkING TWO HOUR DRIVE TO PARIS TO CATCH MY FLIGHT TOOK SIX HOURS BECAUSE FRENCH PEOPLE DONT DRIVE FASTER THAN 5 MPH IN THE SNOW
 
2013-03-12 09:46:11 PM
I had to walk 2 and a quarter miles through a blizzard on my birthday 3 years ago so quit your whining lady.
 
2013-03-12 09:53:10 PM

FizixJunkee: SirEattonHogg: Nick Nostril:  I would have guessed it was some Farker who saw a firearm in person for the first time.


This is 'Mericuh.  There are Americans who haven't seen firearms before?

I've seen firearms in person, but I've never held one.

\not kidding


It's like your peener. If you handle it wrong (or, oh so right) without trigger control, it may go off prematurely.
 
2013-03-12 09:55:14 PM
i47.tinypic.com

This was my town a couple of weeks ago. The kicker is that the bus drove off without them.
 
2013-03-12 09:56:14 PM
I remember one time driving to work, road went up along a mountain ridge where the weather would hit against it. My car did a 360, I ended up facing the same way I was heading in the first place, I continued on, took the next exit, turned around, and went home. Called my boss, and said I wouldn't be in that day. Scary as all hell. Now, if the roads are icy, I just stay home. No one is irreplaceable.
 
2013-03-12 09:56:53 PM
Try driving in this....

throbbingsofnoontide.files.wordpress.com

Let the crying games begin!
 
2013-03-12 10:19:16 PM

themasterdebater: Try driving in this....


All I see is a polar bear in a ghost costume eating vanilla ice cream.
 
2013-03-12 10:23:54 PM

Glitchwerks: [cdn.epicski.com image 720x480]

Man up, weepy lady.


Drive like  a Russian.
 
2013-03-12 10:25:03 PM
Driving in snow doesn't scare me at all. Go slow, be careful, have good tires.

People who can't drive in snow, too fast especially, that's what worries me.
 
2013-03-12 10:25:22 PM
i47.tinypic.com
I like conditions like this, I have heard it called "sticky ice".  I normally will drive the speed limit on days like this, but I make sure I am not near anyone and keep in mind that I need a long time to stop.  Done it for years with front wheel drive, rear wheel drive and 4wheel drive, never had trouble on 'sticky ice' days.  Only once tagged another car, but it was the slick ice, was trying to stop for 200 yards and the impact was below 5 mph.  Sticky ice keeps the roads cleared of unnecessary traffic but isn't that bad.
 
2013-03-12 10:28:51 PM

Sliding Carp: Drive like  a Russian.


Okay, now that was hilarious.
 
2013-03-12 10:31:37 PM

lack of warmth: I have heard it called "sticky ice".


We call it "greazy" ; like greasy, but with a soft s.
 
2013-03-12 10:36:34 PM

SirEattonHogg: Atleast in the midwest, everything is flat


I'm guessing you lived in Illinois.  Not very flat north or west from there.

/Winter driving in Dubuque, IA really sucks
//Madison, WI only slightly better.
 
2013-03-12 10:38:12 PM
Don't they get snow in Omaha?

We in the northern states laugh at you.
 
2013-03-12 10:42:08 PM
farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-03-12 10:44:59 PM

slayer199: Don't they get snow in Omaha?

We in the northern states laugh at you.


i slept through this one

i637.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-12 11:09:20 PM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Bathia_Mapes: I don't know about you, submitter, but if I was driving a 4-WD vehicle and was still slipping & sliding around I'd be scared.

Then you're doing it badly wrong. 4WD is not a panacea, but it can help.


Probably some lifted rig on mud tires.  Junk like that IS scary in snow.

Give me a small, light car for driving in snow any day.  Especially one with decent tires.

/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbwLe6kRbyM  for example
/has an AWD car on snow tires.  The RX-7 on snow tires is still better snow driving car
 
2013-03-12 11:09:20 PM

ZeroCorpse: Nick Nostril: YouPeopleAreCrazy: Words to live by:
4WheelDrive does not mean 4WheelStop.

And don't project your lack of driving skill onto others. Just because you're taxing your skills while driving 10 under doesn't mean everyone else is.

No, he's right. People in 4WD vehicles frequently don't get that just because they can move a little faster in the snow, it doesn't mean that their stopping distance is better than a 2WD. In fact, it's often worse because they're usually heavier and they  are  going faster.

And 4WD won't do anything for your allegedly-skilled driving ass if you speed into black ice and hit your brakes.


Every owner's manual for a 4WD should have a page entitled: "On the physics of hockey pucks"
 
2013-03-12 11:10:43 PM
People stuck on the road in blizzards should be ticketed with illegal parking.

I loved north dakota's policy of plowing the cars off the road. 1st person to complain got a bill for any damage the plow sustained. (to include painting costs)
 
2013-03-12 11:20:43 PM

rustypouch: Is this where I point and laugh?

I'm Canadian, and drive a Subaru with winter tires. It makes driving on snow and ice feel like cheating.


AWD Volkswagen on Gislaveds makes snow feel like summer.  I'm the A-hole passing traffic in the unplowed left lane because, quite frankly, my car goes all honey badger on that crap.

But AWD makes the steering feel just totally dead, though.  So I put snow tires on the RX-7 because I wanted to hit some snow rallycrosses with it.  Car is awesome.  I can go full throttle in 3rd gear on snow and it doesn't even spin the tires, it just goes.  And because the front wheels don't get power, the steering feel isn't killed, so you can really tell if the front tires are breaking traction or not.  Manual steering in a light car is SO much better for driving in snow.

For both cars, the main issue is not road conditions, but visibility.  Still limited to about 40-50mph during night snowstorms because you just can't see much to safely drive faster.

/snow tires are like R-compounds for the winter
 
2013-03-12 11:22:44 PM

Omahawg: it was a pretty scary ice, sleet, blowng snow clusterfark so I stayed home, lady. I stayed home and drank beer and looked outside at the fools trying to drive up the hill in front of my house


but i didn't cry


I live up the road from you in Sioux Falls. When it snows, one of my friends invites people over and we order pizza from every place in town. He lives at the top of a fairly steep hill. There's a back way into his neighborhood that's less steep, but none of the poor bastards delivering pizza seem to know that.

/at least we tip well
 
2013-03-12 11:23:56 PM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: FTFA: The Andersons were in Kearney visiting daughter Kelsey, a junior at the University of Nebraska at Kearney. They started the 200-mile drive home late Sunday morning but turned back after a few hours when they had progressed only about 60 miles.
"It was so scary,'' Karyn said. "I started crying.''
The Andersons were in a four-wheel-drive pickup and creeping along at only 15 mph, yet still slipping and sliding. Blowing snow limited visibility.
They turned around at the Giltner exit and returned to the Kearney Holiday Inn Express, where they had just checked out.

So, let me see if I have this straight.  They left Kearney and made it 60 miles when the storm got to be too much.  So they drove 60 miles back through that same storm to find a room for the night.

[consults Google Maps]

Giltner looks like a post office, a general store and little else; but Grand Island seems to be a fair-sized city.  [consults Wikipedia] Population 48,520.  Was there no lodging in Grand Island?


Grand Island is the scary part of central Nebraska - That's where Children of the Corn IV took place. The churches of Kearney teach that Grand Island is an abomination unto the Lord and is to be avoided at all costs, even death.

// Bonus Question: Kearney, Grand Island and what other city form the "Golden Triangle"? (A great embarrassment for a clueless advertising campaign back in the 1980s)
 
2013-03-12 11:26:31 PM

impaler: 4WD just help you go forward. They do nothing for slowing down or lateral acceleration. Also, they have 2 more tires that can lose traction during acceleration.


That's not entirely accurate.  Locking my diffs is like having antilock brakes - you can't lock one corner without locking them all.

Of course, the penalty for that is that you can no longer steer very well, so you either unlock the diffs for corners or you pitch the car sideways and corner with the throttle, which generally is bad form to do in three lanes of traffic.  Makes people forget what they're trying to text to their BFF.
 
2013-03-12 11:31:50 PM

Bathia_Mapes: FTA: "It was so scary,'' Karyn said. "I started crying.''

The Andersons were in a four-wheel-drive pickup and creeping along at only 15 mph, yet still slipping and sliding. Blowing snow limited visibility.


I don't know about you, submitter, but if I was driving a 4-WD vehicle and was still slipping & sliding around I'd be scared. Add on the decreased visibility from the blowing snow, and I'd be very frightened.

We rarely get snow in my neck of the woods, but when I was in my 20s I had to drive home from the LCC campus in blowing snow at night with little to no visibilty. This trip normally took around 20 minutes, but with the slippery road surface (30th Avenue can be one of the most treacherous streets in town under certain weather conditions) plus lack of visibility, it took me over 2 1/2 hours to get home and my hands were gripping the steering wheel so hard that they hurt. I spent the rest of the evening shaking from the frightening experience.

I guess that makes me a failure in your eyes, but I really don't give a sh*t.



She probably forgot to disengage clutch while coasting.  In a pickup your ass will slide all over if you don't.

Still remember 2 years ago in Austin, February laughing maniacally at all the trucks ditched out while I drove a shiatty little Toyota to work.
 
2013-03-12 11:34:22 PM

Klom Dark: Lee Jackson Beauregard: FTFA: The Andersons were in Kearney visiting daughter Kelsey, a junior at the University of Nebraska at Kearney. They started the 200-mile drive home late Sunday morning but turned back after a few hours when they had progressed only about 60 miles.
"It was so scary,'' Karyn said. "I started crying.''
The Andersons were in a four-wheel-drive pickup and creeping along at only 15 mph, yet still slipping and sliding. Blowing snow limited visibility.
They turned around at the Giltner exit and returned to the Kearney Holiday Inn Express, where they had just checked out.

So, let me see if I have this straight.  They left Kearney and made it 60 miles when the storm got to be too much.  So they drove 60 miles back through that same storm to find a room for the night.

[consults Google Maps]

Giltner looks like a post office, a general store and little else; but Grand Island seems to be a fair-sized city.  [consults Wikipedia] Population 48,520.  Was there no lodging in Grand Island?

Grand Island is the scary part of central Nebraska - That's where Children of the Corn IV took place. The churches of Kearney teach that Grand Island is an abomination unto the Lord and is to be avoided at all costs, even death.

// Bonus Question: Kearney, Grand Island and what other city form the "Golden Triangle"? (A great embarrassment for a clueless advertising campaign back in the 1980s)


hastings? gothenbug? cozad? north splat?
 
2013-03-12 11:50:41 PM
Every chick seems to have some irrational fear of one thing or another.  If you force them to confront it they usually cry.  With my wife it is driving big vehicles.  Big being relative.  She thinks our Subaru legacy is "huge".  Before we were married I once put her in a spot where she had to drive her parents minivan (aerostar) over to my place.  She showed up shaking and in tears and really pissed off at me.  She had less difficulty giving birth to our two boys than she did in driving that van two measly miles.
 
2013-03-12 11:52:50 PM

Mister Peejay: impaler: 4WD just help you go forward. They do nothing for slowing down or lateral acceleration. Also, they have 2 more tires that can lose traction during acceleration.

That's not entirely accurate.  Locking my diffs is like having antilock brakes - you can't lock one corner without locking them all.

Of course, the penalty for that is that you can no longer steer very well, so you either unlock the diffs for corners or you pitch the car sideways and corner with the throttle, which generally is bad form to do in three lanes of traffic.  Makes people forget what they're trying to text to their BFF.


Last winter I drove a Ranger, rear wheel drive standard brakes.  I had trouble with slick ice one day, but had fun with it.  I would purposely slide it once in awhile and would pitch sideways and throttle through corners where ever possible.  This winter we got the 4WD Expedition with ABS and I could not get that thing to slide for nothing while in A4WD.  I did leave it in 2WD one day just to pull the pitch and throttle turn.  I don't take any chances, but it brakes better than any other vehicle I have ever driven.  The kids stopped screaming from the back seat, so it takes all the fun out of it really.

/A4WD is essentially AWD, it also has 4WD high and 4WD low
 
2013-03-13 12:01:36 AM

Ima4nic8or: Every chick seems to have some irrational fear of one thing or another.  If you force them to confront it they usually cry.  With my wife it is driving big vehicles.  Big being relative.  She thinks our Subaru legacy is "huge".  Before we were married I once put her in a spot where she had to drive her parents minivan (aerostar) over to my place.  She showed up shaking and in tears and really pissed off at me.  She had less difficulty giving birth to our two boys than she did in driving that van two measly miles.


My wife's is driving at all.  She can't even sit behind the wheel of a running car, don't even ask her to put it in gear.  Seriously, she has no license.  The last time she tried just backing the van up in the driveway, the van suffered a couple thousand dollars in damages.  She hasn't even sat in a driver's seat since.
 
2013-03-13 12:13:54 AM

lack of warmth: Ima4nic8or: Every chick seems to have some irrational fear of one thing or another.  If you force them to confront it they usually cry.  With my wife it is driving big vehicles.  Big being relative.  She thinks our Subaru legacy is "huge".  Before we were married I once put her in a spot where she had to drive her parents minivan (aerostar) over to my place.  She showed up shaking and in tears and really pissed off at me.  She had less difficulty giving birth to our two boys than she did in driving that van two measly miles.

My wife's is driving at all.  She can't even sit behind the wheel of a running car, don't even ask her to put it in gear.  Seriously, she has no license.  The last time she tried just backing the van up in the driveway, the van suffered a couple thousand dollars in damages.  She hasn't even sat in a driver's seat since.


Sounds like I shouldn't be whining.  I cant imagine how I would make things work if the wife didn't drive.
 
2013-03-13 12:34:27 AM
I've done my fair share of snow-driving, and I'll admit there were a number of occasions when I was genuinely concerned. Drove up to PA over Christmas and had to stop several times to clean the frozen slush off the windshield wipers. Got on the turnpike thinking 'If I'm paying to drive on it, it should be plowed.' Thanks for nothing you Pennsyltucky a-holes.
 
2013-03-13 01:03:38 AM

frostus: But it was only 9 inches of snow. WTF is wrong with those people?


It was the hours of heavy rain that fell earlier and then froze, leaving 1" thickness or more of ice across the roadway. The snow, in and of itself, wasn't so bad. It was also the 25-30mph winds driving that snow, leading to minimal visibility. Worthy of tears? Still no. But also still a very bad time to have been driving.
 
2013-03-13 01:11:55 AM

Omahawg: slayer199: Don't they get snow in Omaha?

We in the northern states laugh at you.

i slept through this one

[i637.photobucket.com image 850x637]


why isn't there snow on top of any of the cars?
 
2013-03-13 01:13:23 AM

Omahawg: driving home tonight could be full of more chuckles even. that north wind has been blowing powdery snow all over the roads all day in that thin sheet of slush that freezes into beautiful black ice. if there's not much of it its fun to go sliding....misjudge how much is on the road though and hey presto there's the ditch


Yup, last night I white knuckled it to make a 130km round trip, a couple hours after they reopened our highway here, but still while travel was not recommended.  Definately one of things I hate most about being stuck on the prairies for the past few years.  The snow here is dry and powdery, so the cross wind blows it on to the highway, in the day the cars stick it to the road and it melts just enough, and then when the sun comes down it slicks over.  Took me 3 1/4 hours to make a normally 90 minute trip.  Even with winter tires the crosswind 40G60kph the car went of center a couple of time, just pucker up and make micro-corrections.  Passed in 3 cars, 2 SUV's, a pick up and the scariest an 18 wheeler facing the wrong way on the passing lane shoulder, too dark to see whether what the story was.

However I will say that it was worse when I was on Vancouver Island for a few years, people there have no idea what to do when it snows.  Seeing some moron in a 4x4 pickup try to pass me, have him disappear into my blindspot and then reappear behind me spinning out into the ditch.  That was pretty scary.
 
2013-03-13 01:14:31 AM

Omahawg: slayer199: Don't they get snow in Omaha?

We in the northern states laugh at you.

i slept through this one

[i637.photobucket.com image 850x637]


1975 was a sucky year to live in Omaha. Triple tornado through downtown after the blizzard.
 
2013-03-13 01:23:03 AM

FourPetesake: Omahawg: slayer199: Don't they get snow in Omaha?

We in the northern states laugh at you.

i slept through this one

[i637.photobucket.com image 850x637]

why isn't there snow on top of any of the cars?


the snow isn't ever the issue here. its the 40 or 50 mile an hour winds that 'cause everything to suck
 
2013-03-13 01:23:08 AM

Oreamnos: frostus: But it was only 9 inches of snow. WTF is wrong with those people?

It was the hours of heavy rain that fell earlier and then froze, leaving 1" thickness or more of ice across the roadway. The snow, in and of itself, wasn't so bad. It was also the 25-30mph winds driving that snow, leading to minimal visibility. Worthy of tears? Still no. But also still a very bad time to have been driving.


Yes, it would suck to drive in that.
 
2013-03-13 01:33:13 AM
4runner & studded hakka 7's. Last storm got off the stopped freeway with the morons skidding into ditches and high tailed it cross country on the gravel. Fun times blasting through the drifts.
 
2013-03-13 01:36:46 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: [i47.tinypic.com image 465x620]

This was my town a couple of weeks ago. The kicker is that the bus drove off without them.


Ah, an OC Transpo bus in the snow. Don't you just love the jackknifing articulated buses?
 
2013-03-13 02:14:00 AM

Ima4nic8or: lack of warmth: Ima4nic8or: Every chick seems to have some irrational fear of one thing or another.  If you force them to confront it they usually cry.  With my wife it is driving big vehicles.  Big being relative.  She thinks our Subaru legacy is "huge".  Before we were married I once put her in a spot where she had to drive her parents minivan (aerostar) over to my place.  She showed up shaking and in tears and really pissed off at me.  She had less difficulty giving birth to our two boys than she did in driving that van two measly miles.

My wife's is driving at all.  She can't even sit behind the wheel of a running car, don't even ask her to put it in gear.  Seriously, she has no license.  The last time she tried just backing the van up in the driveway, the van suffered a couple thousand dollars in damages.  She hasn't even sat in a driver's seat since.

Sounds like I shouldn't be whining.  I cant imagine how I would make things work if the wife didn't drive.


My grandmother never learned to drive.  Then again, she's nearly 90 years old and grew up in a time and place where men were the ones who did all the driving.
 
2013-03-13 02:15:21 AM
I have a little 2WD Chevy S-10 pickup. Driving on icy roads is the same as on cleared road except for a few minor adjustments. For example to make a right turn: Turn the steering wheel to the left and let the the back end side out making a 270 degree rotation. It's lots of fun!
 
2013-03-13 03:23:04 AM
So, there are times you shouldn't drive if you're not up to navigating the weather conditions...and there are times you shouldn't travel if you're not up to dealing with the BS associated with mass transit during weather conditions.  Are we done here?
 
2013-03-13 06:30:06 AM

Mr. Lepage: Canadian. Getting a kick, etc.


Yes, friendly neighbors to the north, this is your thread in which to shine.  Please be responsible.
 
2013-03-13 07:22:25 AM

Twitch Boy: [media.caranddriver.com image 850x519]

Stop crying.  Start laughing.


Looks real nice with a fresh wash parked 20 feet off the highway by a river.

I bet you're the first one to slide off the road when they get a little icy though
 
2013-03-13 08:16:52 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: [i47.tinypic.com image 465x620]

This was my town a couple of weeks ago. The kicker is that the bus drove off without them.


Hey, I know those buses.  Sounds about right for OC Transpo.

Something like 200 bus accidents that day if I recall correctly.
 
2013-03-13 08:23:49 AM
Meanwhile, up in New Brunswick, a 67 year old retiree is driving through a snowstorm while drinking a coffee, having a smoke, changing the Beatles CD in his car and wondering if he should drive straight up to Riviere de Loup to visit the kids or stop at the strip club the other side of the border and see in Francoise is still working the "massage" trade and call ahead and tell 'em that the snow was making him tired and he decided to crash at a motel rather than take a chance, blah blah blah.
 
2013-03-13 09:29:42 AM

Ima4nic8or: lack of warmth: Ima4nic8or: Every chick seems to have some irrational fear of one thing or another.  If you force them to confront it they usually cry.  With my wife it is driving big vehicles.  Big being relative.  She thinks our Subaru legacy is "huge".  Before we were married I once put her in a spot where she had to drive her parents minivan (aerostar) over to my place.  She showed up shaking and in tears and really pissed off at me.  She had less difficulty giving birth to our two boys than she did in driving that van two measly miles.

My wife's is driving at all.  She can't even sit behind the wheel of a running car, don't even ask her to put it in gear.  Seriously, she has no license.  The last time she tried just backing the van up in the driveway, the van suffered a couple thousand dollars in damages.  She hasn't even sat in a driver's seat since.

Sounds like I shouldn't be whining.  I cant imagine how I would make things work if the wife didn't drive.


I think your wife still got the worst deal out of all of you. She has to sit next to your dim-witted left-lane blocking ass as you putt putt down the highway pissing everybody off. Riding with people like you is the worst.
 
2013-03-13 10:06:46 AM

Krazikarl: The thing that scares me about snow is the other drivers.  I know how to drive in snow. But some people just have no clue, and I'd rather that they didn't take me out too when they do something stupid.


Here's the thing: you don't have to know how to drive in snow. You just have to know how to drive. The reason why more accidents happen is that people think they need to drive differently in snow. Slow drivers cause accidents.

/born and raised in Buffalo NY
 
2013-03-13 10:07:37 AM

neilbradley: If you get to the point of crying, you shouldn't be on the road. Period.


Periods are the problem!
 
2013-03-13 10:09:25 AM

SirEattonHogg: I was a few feet from pancaking into the next car, quite a few times.


Also known as "normal stopping distance".
 
2013-03-13 10:36:25 AM

Bullseyed: Buffalo


I've driven from Buffalo to Rochester through some of the most blinding snow ever (Batavia, NY, anyone?).  A little nerve-wracking but I never thought I was going to cry.
 
2013-03-13 08:18:59 PM
I was driving through Wyoming in a U-haul last month on I-80 roads were pretty bad. Lot of semi's and cars off the road. I was going around 50 and some guy passed me. I let off the gas to give him some distance and sure enough he spun around in circles and went off the road into the ditch. I did stop to check on him, looked at the road while I was at it. A dusting of snow over 1 1/2 inches of ice.  After that it was 30-40 mph for 70 miles till it cleared up. Whiteknuckle yes, didn't cry. Though if I knew about all the tickets I was going to get in Oregon I would have just gone ahead and cried.
 
2013-03-14 04:45:41 AM

Intoxoman: I was driving through Wyoming in a U-haul last month on I-80 roads were pretty bad. Lot of semi's and cars off the road. I was going around 50 and some guy passed me. I let off the gas to give him some distance and sure enough he spun around in circles and went off the road into the ditch. I did stop to check on him, looked at the road while I was at it. A dusting of snow over 1 1/2 inches of ice.  After that it was 30-40 mph for 70 miles till it cleared up. Whiteknuckle yes, didn't cry. Though if I knew about all the tickets I was going to get in Oregon I would have just gone ahead and cried.


Wyoming is the worst.  When the wife and I moved to Denver from Vancouver, I was driving the U-Haul, towing my car, and they were apparently closing all roads RIGHT behind us.  Zero visibility, can't see the road past 10 feet in front of you, and no where to stop until you get to I-25 and civilization.  That was one memorable Christmas Eve.
 
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