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(Yahoo)   Farewell Ewald-Heinrich von Kleist, he was the last surviving member of the plot to kill Hitler   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 111
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2013-03-13 02:11:43 AM
Everyone knows you shouldn't try to kill Hitler in the past!
 
2013-03-13 02:22:49 AM
Two old Jewish assassins are set to kill Hitler on street corner in Berlin at midnight.  They're hiding in the shadows on either side of the street waiting, armed to the teeth with guns... knives... the whole 9 yards.  12:00 comes... no Hitler.  12:15... no Hitler.  12:30... still no Hitler.  One walks over to the other and says " He's late.. My God, I hope nothing happened to him!"
 
2013-03-13 03:00:52 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: I'm having a hard time justifying the Hero tag here, subby. The officer corps loved Hitler and how he restored the army to its glory. They voluntarily joined the Nazi Party, followed his orders vis-a-vis the Holocaust, invasions, etc., and only turned on Hitler when it was evident they were going to lose if he remained the leader. They would have followed him forever had Germany kept winning.

That this guy was going to do something that seems noble in hindsight doesn't really whitewash what he had done before to rank up high enough to even have a shot at killing Hitler.


Does that mean all current military personel, play a part in drone strikes?
 
2013-03-13 03:02:15 AM

TerminalEchoes: So being part of a plot that never came to fruition makes one a hero? I never knew. Hey, I'm part of a plot to cure cancer. I can haz metal now?

Why do you hate Law Enforcement personnel? Only criminals have a problem with heroes.
 
2013-03-13 03:19:59 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: That this guy was going to do something that seems noble in hindsight doesn't really whitewash what he had done before to rank up high enough to even have a shot at killing Hitler.


Dude.

Read the article.

Ewald-Heinrich von Kleist was a 22 year-old lieutenant.

He and his family opposed Hitler since before he took power.

The plan was for him to be a suicide bomber, and kill Hitler in the process.

It's like you managed to be completely wrong in pretty much everything you've said in that post.
 
2013-03-13 04:23:39 AM

StoPPeRmobile: TerminalEchoes: So being part of a plot that never came to fruition makes one a hero? I never knew. Hey, I'm part of a plot to cure cancer. I can haz metal now?Why do you hate Law Enforcement personnel? Only criminals have a problem with heroes.


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2013-03-13 07:35:43 AM

Gyrfalcon: And it would have freed up American and possibly British men and materiel to fight in the Pacific, and possibly enabled that war to have ended sooner rather than requiring the use of the atomic bomb.


This I doubt.

The bottleneck wasn't men and material in the Pacific, it was the far-flung nature of the war there.

You still have the problem that the Japanese wouldn't have quickly surrendered, even with the home islands invaded, and you have to have a base close enough to those islands to launch an invasion.  Even if you double the amount of men and material, you have to account for the fact that most of the US naval assets larger than an escort carrier or destroyer were already in the Pacific.
 
2013-03-13 09:09:02 AM
hhmmm...with all these guns around one would think there would of been an easier way to kill hitler. but nah, looney tunes style explosions were the way to go.
 
2013-03-13 09:29:08 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: There were Germans who did not belong to the Nazi party.

The Wehrmacht officer who devised the plan to drive through the Ardennes and divide the French and British armies was not a member of the Nazi party. He stood up to Hitler often enough that he spent the last part of the war sitting at home. The best general Hitler had and he was put out to pasture for not being a loyal Nazi.

The head of the Abwehr was not a Nazi party member. He was part of Valkyrie. The SS stripped him naked then hanged him with piano wire, letting him come close to death then letting down so he could recover. They spent over a half an hour hoisting him up and down several times.

It is not fair to say that people who didn't come out openly against Hitler deserve no thanks for whatever attempt they made at resistance. The whole Allied bombing strategy against Germany was based on the belief that bombing cities would make the German populace rise up against Hitler. In a totalitarian state, particularly one armed with IBM card machines, that doesn't work. We could have leveled all of Germany and the populace would still be afraid of being executed for even the smallest of slights against the Party.


I agree it's a tough call, but I had a German great aunt who took one look at the Nazis, in the 30s, and left Germany for America.  She was a countess, so that meant giving up her estate, title, and much of her fortune, but she felt it was the only thing she could do.

Or look at Sophie Scholl...pity the German with the biggest balls was a schoolgirl.

Of course, she got executed, so perhaps it's unfair to expect everyone to stand up to their own society...
 
2013-03-13 05:58:58 PM
Jesus, Kleist?
 
2013-03-13 08:51:26 PM
I think people are misinterpreting the motivations behind the timing of the July 20 plot. While many certainly only chose that time because Hitler had failed them, many anti-Nazi members of the Wermarcht were forced to wait until that time to act, simply because they could not achieve public support for his assassination in the midst of victory.

I mean at least read the article before you're going to shiat on the memory of a guy who was willing to sacrifice his life for the greater good.
 
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