Adolf Oliver Nipples: I'm having a hard time justifying the Hero tag here, subby. The officer corps loved Hitler and how he restored the army to its glory. They voluntarily joined the Nazi Party, followed his orders vis-a-vis the Holocaust, invasions, etc., and only turned on Hitler when it was evident they were going to lose if he remained the leader. They would have followed him forever had Germany kept winning.That this guy was going to do something that seems noble in hindsight doesn't really whitewash what he had done before to rank up high enough to even have a shot at killing Hitler.
TerminalEchoes: So being part of a plot that never came to fruition makes one a hero? I never knew. Hey, I'm part of a plot to cure cancer. I can haz metal now?
Adolf Oliver Nipples: That this guy was going to do something that seems noble in hindsight doesn't really whitewash what he had done before to rank up high enough to even have a shot at killing Hitler.
StoPPeRmobile: TerminalEchoes: So being part of a plot that never came to fruition makes one a hero? I never knew. Hey, I'm part of a plot to cure cancer. I can haz metal now?Why do you hate Law Enforcement personnel? Only criminals have a problem with heroes.
Gyrfalcon: And it would have freed up American and possibly British men and materiel to fight in the Pacific, and possibly enabled that war to have ended sooner rather than requiring the use of the atomic bomb.
TheShavingofOccam123: There were Germans who did not belong to the Nazi party.The Wehrmacht officer who devised the plan to drive through the Ardennes and divide the French and British armies was not a member of the Nazi party. He stood up to Hitler often enough that he spent the last part of the war sitting at home. The best general Hitler had and he was put out to pasture for not being a loyal Nazi.The head of the Abwehr was not a Nazi party member. He was part of Valkyrie. The SS stripped him naked then hanged him with piano wire, letting him come close to death then letting down so he could recover. They spent over a half an hour hoisting him up and down several times.It is not fair to say that people who didn't come out openly against Hitler deserve no thanks for whatever attempt they made at resistance. The whole Allied bombing strategy against Germany was based on the belief that bombing cities would make the German populace rise up against Hitler. In a totalitarian state, particularly one armed with IBM card machines, that doesn't work. We could have leveled all of Germany and the populace would still be afraid of being executed for even the smallest of slights against the Party.
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