Perducci: You'd think that the old pope would just have a quick chat with god before he quit and be able to cut out a lot of this nonsense. "Yeah, god says that.... ~this~ guy is the new pope. Congrats"
Ambivalence: Snarfangel: Everyone keeps assuming that black smoke means no Pope has been elected. What if the cardinals accidentally created an anti-Pope.Isn't there already an anti-pope? I want to say the head of the Eastern Orthodox Church but I don't want to offend if I'm wrong. (And I don't care enough to google it).
Bathia_Mapes: Straw is burned along with the ballots for the black smoke.
KarmicDisaster: What did they burn to get the smoke that Black, some politician souls?
LineNoise: Wow, they weren't messing around with that smoke.
Silverstaff: Perducci: You'd think that the old pope would just have a quick chat with god before he quit and be able to cut out a lot of this nonsense. "Yeah, god says that.... ~this~ guy is the new pope. Congrats"They used to let Popes do that. . .then Pope Benedict IX farked it up by pretty much selling the Papacy to a relative (also the first Pope to ever resign, and the only Pope to serve 3 separate terms in office, and having been elected at age 20 quite possibly the youngest Pope, he only got the job because he was a young nobleman of a politically powerful family that wanted him on the throne as a political move), he was openly homosexual and held gay orgies in the Lateran Palace. Due to widespread and overwhelming disgust with him, he resigned a third time and his family paid him off to let them place a more respectable man as the Pope after he left, who was Gregory VI in 1045.After being deposed for the last time, he was excommunicated for selling church offices (such as his own Papacy) and died in obscurity.The current system is there to make sure that nobody tampers with the system like that.Then again, until 769 A.D. the laity of the Diocese of Rome had the right to refuse to acknowledge the new Pope, essentially giving the common people of Rome a collective veto on the process. They got rid of that one. It wasn't until 1059 when the current system of Cardinals was created, giving a group of senior Bishops (well technically senior clergy, there were a handful of Cardinal Priests, but that's pretty much not allowed anymore) the ability to collectively decide.Before 1059, there were a variety of ways of selecting popes, but it was usually by decree of whatever King or Emperor had conquered Rome at the time. In antiquity, before it became the state church of Rome, the Bishop of Rome was decided by a consensus of the clergy and laity discussing it together.
jamspoon: Maybe they'll elect Joseph Ratzinger for a second term?Now that would be a first.
ontariolightning: Black smoke and no Lost references? Have you all FORGOTTEN?!
threadjackistan: Ambivalence: Snarfangel: Everyone keeps assuming that black smoke means no Pope has been elected. What if the cardinals accidentally created an anti-Pope.Isn't there already an anti-pope? I want to say the head of the Eastern Orthodox Church but I don't want to offend if I'm wrong. (And I don't care enough to google it).To be anti-pope, technically you have to have a significantly recognized claim to be the bishop of Rome. That eastern orthodox pope doesn't qualify on that basis.
LineNoise: Wow, they weren't messing around with that smoke.I wouldn't be surprised if they don't hear anything from the conclave for a few days, only to open the doors and find them all dead of carbon monoxide poisoning.
CommieTaoist: [i1156.photobucket.com image 425x319]
Torgo_of_Manos: Mudgen: I just had a vision of a "Hot pontiffs now" sign in red flashing neon....Dammit now I want donuts
Shakespeare's Monkey: [farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x388]
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