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2013-03-12 11:22:13 AM  
Yes !  Oh holy cr**p, yes! We don't want you to speed up; we want you to move over into the right lane.  Change lanes; its not hard.  This, the left lane, is the passing lane.  That, the right lane, is the cruising lane.  Its really that simple.  Really.
 
2013-03-12 11:26:48 AM  
I wish I could meet the Cop - I'd buy him a drink and a steak dinner.  Get in the farking right lane you slow poke a holes.
 
2013-03-12 11:29:43 AM  
In other words, she was ticketed for being a douche.  (or a Prius driver)

legalinsurrection.com

The left lane is for passing asshats.  You can be a pretentious ass in your home town where it's 25mph and no passing zones.
 
2013-03-12 11:37:01 AM  
I would've been so far up her ass she could taste my bumper...my rear bumper...

Most of my driving is on 50, not 95, but still, left lane is for maniacs only.


/I like it when MD stories come up that don't make us look like Floriduh...
 
2013-03-12 11:38:22 AM  
Good!

Learn to drive on a road with more than 1 lane.
 
2013-03-12 11:47:29 AM  
api.ning.com
 
2013-03-12 11:50:56 AM  
To all of those who sport the following bumper sticker:

"I may be slow, but I'm ahead of you"

That's only because it's illegal to run your sorry ass into a ditch.

/'98 Camry, another scratch ain't gonna bother me.
 
2013-03-12 12:32:59 PM  
"The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

Actually, I could have sworn that one would be penalized for "driving at more than the speed limit". In fact, I could swear I have a few friendly notes from the local constabulary stating just that.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-12 01:12:57 PM  
While she was in the wrong morally, she was probably not in the wrong legally. In Maryland you can stay in the left lane as long as you are within 10 mph of the speed limit.  Most states require drivers to keep right when moving slower than the normal speed of traffic.
 
2013-03-12 01:33:33 PM  

sentex: Good!

 
2013-03-12 01:41:05 PM  

J.Shelby: Yes !  Oh holy cr**p, yes! We don't want you to speed up; we want you to move over into the right lane.  Change lanes; its not hard.  This, the left lane, is the passing lane.  That, the right lane, is the cruising lane.  Its really that simple.  Really.


b-b-b-but persecution complex!
 
2013-03-12 01:43:45 PM  

ZAZ: While she was in the wrong morally, she was probably not in the wrong legally. In Maryland you can stay in the left lane as long as you are within 10 mph of the speed limit.  Most states require drivers to keep right when moving slower than the normal speed of traffic.


Incorrect.

/Laws change. Unofficial websites that quote them do not. ;)
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-12 01:53:54 PM  
Gecko Gingrich

"Normal and reasonable movement of traffic" will most likely be interpreted to mean "traffic obeying the speed limit." If "normal and reasonable" on its own could prohibit driving 63 in a 65 zone, the specific rule allowing 10 mph below the speed limit should take precedence over the general rule against impeding traffic.  If it doesn't, a 2 mph difference is not likely to hold up in court.

Bad driver, but not guilty is my verdict.
 
2013-03-12 01:56:24 PM  
"Nestoring," it's a NoVa disease crossing the river.
 
2013-03-12 02:03:47 PM  
Good. That's one of my biggest peeves when driving. Stay in the right lane if you're not passing otherwise you look like an oblivious ass.
 
2013-03-12 02:07:25 PM  
"The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

No, it's sending the message that if you're "experiencing heavy winds and <have> slowed down to be safe." you should also move over to the right lane.

Also:
www.majhost.com

/yes, I know it doesn't cover every single instance
//but it's a handy guideline for people like this woman.
 
2013-03-12 02:07:44 PM  
The posted speed limit on I95 in Laurel is 65.  If the cops can ticket you if you go 66, then they shouldn't be allowed to ticket you if you go 63.  And its not like that lane is empty or anything.  There's a shiatload of traffic going through.
 
2013-03-12 02:08:46 PM  
The cop deserves the HERO tag.
 
2013-03-12 02:11:21 PM  
people going slow in the left lanes are why people have to pass in the right lanes.  Don't like drivers passing you on the right?  don't drive like a slow POS in the left lane.  I tried up just passing on the left, but gave up long ago on 95 and 695 and 495.  Now every lane is just a free-for-all.
 
2013-03-12 02:13:57 PM  

SlothB77: The posted speed limit on I95 in Laurel is 65.  If the cops can ticket you if you go 66, then they shouldn't be allowed to ticket you if you go 63.  And its not like that lane is empty or anything.  There's a shiatload of traffic going through.


They didn't ticket her for going slower than the posted speed. They ticketed her for "failing to move right" which is true. And if there's always traffic then she was impeding the flow of traffic by blocking the passing lane with her slow ass.
 
2013-03-12 02:17:31 PM  

scottydoesntknow: They didn't ticket her for going slower than the posted speed. They ticketed her for "failing to move right" which is true. And if there's always traffic then she was impeding the flow of traffic by blocking the passing lane with her slow ass.


Impeding people from speeding?  Maybe she was passing cars in the lanes to her right that were going slower than 63?
 
2013-03-12 02:18:15 PM  

ZAZ: "Normal and reasonable movement of traffic" will most likely be interpreted to mean "traffic obeying the speed limit."


Except that what I recall from when this law (21-804) was passed, it was stated specifically that "normal and reasonable" was independent of the posted speed limit.

/Yes, I'm looking for that article now.
 
2013-03-12 02:19:26 PM  

SlothB77: Impeding people from speeding?


Yes. It's against the law.
 
2013-03-12 02:23:00 PM  

SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: They didn't ticket her for going slower than the posted speed. They ticketed her for "failing to move right" which is true. And if there's always traffic then she was impeding the flow of traffic by blocking the passing lane with her slow ass.

Impeding people from speeding?  Maybe she was passing cars in the lanes to her right that were going slower than 63?


If she was going faster than traffic on her right, she would not have been given a ticket.
 
2013-03-12 02:29:59 PM  
I would date a hippy, nazi, commie, murderer, health food nut, left winger, right winger, fat chick.. hmm... I would date pretty much anyone on principle, but I would never date a hyper-miler.

They are the most wretched form of scum and villainy in the universe.
 
2013-03-12 02:30:22 PM  

SlothB77: Impeding people from speeding?


How else are they going to get a new police lodge if she's preventing people from getting caught
 
2013-03-12 02:32:22 PM  

timujin: "The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

No, it's sending the message that if you're "experiencing heavy winds and <have> slowed down to be safe." you should also move over to the right lane.

Also:
[www.majhost.com image 489x323]


Does not apply in MD.  Or 64 in VA.
 
2013-03-12 02:35:13 PM  
In case you are reading this, Maryland cop, you are my hero.
 
2013-03-12 02:36:06 PM  

scottydoesntknow: SlothB77: The posted speed limit on I95 in Laurel is 65.  If the cops can ticket you if you go 66, then they shouldn't be allowed to ticket you if you go 63.  And its not like that lane is empty or anything.  There's a shiatload of traffic going through.

They didn't ticket her for going slower than the posted speed. They ticketed her for "failing to move right" which is true. And if there's always traffic then she was impeding the flow of traffic by blocking the passing lane with her slow ass.


Yes, Yes, Yes, THAT!
 
2013-03-12 02:37:30 PM  

SlothB77: scottydoesntknow: They didn't ticket her for going slower than the posted speed. They ticketed her for "failing to move right" which is true. And if there's always traffic then she was impeding the flow of traffic by blocking the passing lane with her slow ass.

Impeding people from speeding?  Maybe she was passing cars in the lanes to her right that were going slower than 63?


The cop was there, you weren't.
 
2013-03-12 02:38:17 PM  
Yeah, I wonder if this is the reaction the newsies were aim for with this story.  Ain't no one who has ever driven on a highway gonna feel for the poor old lady who got the ticket.
 
2013-03-12 02:38:46 PM  
I love this.  While a person speeding in the left lane is dangerous, they, in theory, are not bothering other drivers as long as people are not in the way.  It is when they have to go around someone going to slow that causes the chain reaction when they cut someone off in the right lane to go around the person driving slower.  My dad is one of those people that gets in the far left lane and sets the cruise control at the speed limit...even when the other 4 lanes next to him are cars flying past him honking and screaming.

I actaully got out of a ticket in court by telling the judge that I was not speeding when pulled over.  Since the cop marked 'visual' on the part of the ticket where you indicated how it was determined I was speeding the judge let me off with a warning.  My arguement was that the other driver going really slow made me look faster.  I think the cop hurt himself rolling his eyes when the judge bought it.
 
2013-03-12 02:41:18 PM  
I would assume that the radar has a +/-2 mph margin of error. So maybe she was driving right at the speed limit.
 
2013-03-12 02:41:27 PM  
Speed doesn't kill.  Variations in speed do.

She is doing more harm than speeders.  However, she will probably win the case.
 
2013-03-12 02:41:54 PM  
A MD driver going slow in the left lane?

Color me not farking shocked at all.


Worst drivers in the US, by far.  They inhabit the left lane, going slow, will never get over, don't use turn signals, and time their driving to eliminate any gaps that may be used for passing.
 
2013-03-12 02:42:28 PM  
bluenote13:   My dad is one of those people that gets in the far left lane and sets the cruise control at the speed limit...even when the other 4 lanes next to him are cars flying past him honking and screaming.

Your dad is an asshole
 
2013-03-12 02:42:37 PM  
fark that biatch!
 
2013-03-12 02:43:27 PM  
Stupid reporter... she didn't get a ticket for driving too slowly, she get a ticket for driving to slowly IN THE WRONG LANE!
 
2013-03-12 02:44:15 PM  
Most states have a law against poking in the left lane, which is never enforced.

A year or two ago SC claimed it was going to start writing tix for this but I have not heard of it happening.

I'd like to give this cop a medal.
 
2013-03-12 02:44:25 PM  
I'm ok with this

/speeds in left lane
//doesn't tailgate
///sucks it up if idiots park in the left lane
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-12 02:44:31 PM  
Gecko Gingrich

Several states have had tough talk about cleaning up the left lane, but what is enacted (if anything) may not match the rhetoric. There was tough talk in New Jersey last year, but New Jersey already has keep right except to pass. The substance of the bill was an increase in the fine for violating a seldom-enforced law.
 
2013-03-12 02:44:39 PM  

aegean: Speed doesn't kill.  Variations in speed do.

She is doing more harm than speeders.  However, she will probably win the case.


I'll take that bet.
 
2013-03-12 02:44:44 PM  
houseofgrafx.com
 
2013-03-12 02:45:47 PM  
HERO tag for the Cop!
 
2013-03-12 02:45:49 PM  
About farking time. They need to make ramming legal
 
2013-03-12 02:46:37 PM  

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: I would assume that the radar has a +/-2 mph margin of error. So maybe she was driving right at the speed limit.


If the traffic to her right was either moving slower than her or didn't exist, then she was in the wrong. The actual speed at which she was traveling doesn't matter.
 
2013-03-12 02:47:06 PM  
People who don't know (or don't care) that the left lane is for passing are to stupid to be driving anyway. Hopefully the judge has an ounce of common sense and explains this to her.
 
2013-03-12 02:47:12 PM  

bluenote13: My dad is one of those people that gets in the far left lane and sets the cruise control at the speed limit...even when the other 4 lanes next to him are cars flying past him honking and screaming.


s17.postimage.org
I got the old cruise control set at 35!
 
2013-03-12 02:47:36 PM  
The driver, who didn't want her name used, told News4 she was driving in the left lane of I-95 on Laurel last Friday when she was pulled over and cited for failing to move right.

She should consider herself lucky. If I had my druthers people who do this would be shot on the spot without a trial.
 
2013-03-12 02:47:46 PM  
i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-12 02:48:32 PM  

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: I would assume that the radar has a +/-2 mph margin of error. So maybe she was driving right at the speed limit.



And? She could have been driving at 68, but if people were passing on her right, she would still be ticketed for impeding traffic and failing to move right.
 
2013-03-12 02:48:37 PM  

sentex: bluenote13:   My dad is one of those people that gets in the far left lane and sets the cruise control at the speed limit...even when the other 4 lanes next to him are cars flying past him honking and screaming.

Your dad is an asshole


THIS
 
2013-03-12 02:49:17 PM  
 
2013-03-12 02:49:27 PM  

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: I would assume that the radar has a +/-2 mph margin of error. So maybe she was driving right at the speed limit.


I would think the cop was clocking her with his own speedometer not a radar....she was probably tooling along knitting, feeling all safe with the nice police officer on her back bumper.
 
2013-03-12 02:49:51 PM  
 
2013-03-12 02:50:25 PM  

skylabdown: I would date a hippy, nazi, commie, murderer, health food nut, left winger, right winger, fat chick.. hmm... I would date pretty much anyone on principle, but I would never date a hyper-miler.

They are the most wretched form of scum and villainy in the universe.


She is nestoring, not hypermilering.  There are any number of good reasons to drive at legal speeds in the right lane (lack of love for Al Qaeda, DWB in PG county, one point left on license), but she just couldn't find the right lane.

I-270 is even worse: same traffic, nearly the same speed, 55 MPH speed limits (Montgomery County).  Also 65 MPH speed limits and 15 MPH exits makes the left lane make sense in Frederick County.
 
2013-03-12 02:50:42 PM  

Girion47: A MD driver going slow in the left lane?

Color me not farking shocked at all.


Worst drivers in the US, by far.  They inhabit the left lane, going slow, will never get over, don't use turn signals, and time their driving to eliminate any gaps that may be used for passing.


 Not to mention sitting on their phone at a stop light when it turns green. I use my horn at least once a day for green light campers here around Annapolis.

/Lived all over the country. This area's one of the worst I've ever dealt with in the terms of lousy drivers
 
2013-03-12 02:51:40 PM  
People from NJ just shrug and wonder why she didn't get a ticket for not keeping right in the first place.

At least she wasn't doing 20MPH and yakking on her cell phone (which I have seen in the left lane on the DC Beltway).
 
2013-03-12 02:51:42 PM  

timujin: "The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

No, it's sending the message that if you're "experiencing heavy winds and <have> slowed down to be safe." you should also move over to the right lane.

Also:
[www.majhost.com image 489x323]

/yes, I know it doesn't cover every single instance
//but it's a handy guideline for people like this woman.


You're over complicating things.

Are you in the left lane?
If Yes, is there a car immediately in front of you?
If no, you're in the wrong lane.  Move over as soon as the right one is empty.
 
2013-03-12 02:52:18 PM  

abhorrent1: They need to make ramming legal


meanwhile in Russia ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1qcIAFSwg
 
2013-03-12 02:53:16 PM  
Her speed had nothing to do with the ticket! She did not move to the right when a police car was behind her.
 
2013-03-12 02:53:33 PM  
I so wish they would ticket for that here. It's worse when you're trying to get to work or home in rush-hour traffic and some blue haired snowbird is driving 45 in the left lane, completely oblivious to how badly he's farking up traffic. You can drive below the speed limit, but get the hell over so people can pass you. Why is that so hard?
 
2013-03-12 02:54:10 PM  
I think if you look deep into the driving manual you will find the notation that the left lane is for passing, or slower traffic move to the right.

I know there are shiatloads of signs on the highways.

Fully paid off and insured 14 year old Jeep. Single farks, I ain't got one.
 
2013-03-12 02:54:43 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: ZAZ: "Normal and reasonable movement of traffic" will most likely be interpreted to mean "traffic obeying the speed limit."

Except that what I recall from when this law (21-804) was passed, it was stated specifically that "normal and reasonable" was independent of the posted speed limit.

/Yes, I'm looking for that article now.


That's because in real life, the speed limit signs have very little bearing on the speed and flow of traffic on a daily basis.  The cops,  city planners and most politicians already know this.  Didn't you?

Flow of traffic depends 0% on speed limits and 50% on idiots not being in the left lane going the speed limit or under.  The other 50% is if all the combined morons on the road can avoid hitting anything.
 
2013-03-12 02:55:34 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: ZAZ: "Normal and reasonable movement of traffic" will most likely be interpreted to mean "traffic obeying the speed limit."

Except that what I recall from when this law (21-804) was passed, it was stated specifically that "normal and reasonable" was independent of the posted speed limit.

/Yes, I'm looking for that article now.


From the one defensive driving class I took, that usually means that the cops may determine that "normal and reasonable" may be slower than the posted speed limit, e.g. when the roads are wet, when visibility is low, or when there is construction.  Of course this information was given to me by an old Italian cab driver and not a lawyer, but I figure he knows what the cops are looking for.

/I thought this story was going to be about someone doing 30 in a 65.
 
2013-03-12 02:55:39 PM  
I'd buy the cop a beer. She was probably on her cell phone too. Get out of the passing lane you twit.
 
2013-03-12 02:56:25 PM  

StrandedInAZ: I so wish they would ticket for that here. It's worse when you're trying to get to work or home in rush-hour traffic and some blue haired snowbird is driving 45 in the left lane, completely oblivious to how badly he's farking up traffic. You can drive below the speed limit, but get the hell over so people can pass you. Why is that so hard?


Because 9 times out of 10 the people who drive that slow are chicken shiats who don't want to be on the road in the first place. By moving to the far left lane they only have to deal with drivers on one side of them instead of two. Even the right lane has to deal with people entering/exiting.

They just don't want the headaches of actually paying attention to their surroundings.
 
2013-03-12 02:56:33 PM  
Time for some more Russian car cam videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_gP03lhe0
 
2013-03-12 02:57:18 PM  
I try not to get emotionally involved in other peoples' driving anymore.  Life is too short.  But even with that, I think the "Hero" tag is in order for the ticketing officer.
 
2013-03-12 02:57:18 PM  
You said Maryland, so that was exactly the reason I was thinking.
 
2013-03-12 03:01:15 PM  

Raoul Eaton: I try not to get emotionally involved in other peoples' driving anymore. Life is too short. But even with that, I think the "Hero" tag is in order for the ticketing officer.


I stopped being one of the left lane speed-demons a while back and now just set my cruise control at "about" the speed limit and cruise in the right lane with occasional passes for much slower traffic. It's about an 18 mile commute on the highway. Not only is my drive much more pleasant, I get home at pretty much the same time anyway.

People that insist on blazing up the road at 85 mph are fools. I do sympathize with them about the campers though. Even as a slower driver they still infuriate me.
 
2013-03-12 03:01:49 PM  
Awesome.  Should happen more often.
 
2013-03-12 03:01:54 PM  

ZAZ: Gecko Gingrich

"Normal and reasonable movement of traffic" will most likely be interpreted to mean "traffic obeying the speed limit." If "normal and reasonable" on its own could prohibit driving 63 in a 65 zone, the specific rule allowing 10 mph below the speed limit should take precedence over the general rule against impeding traffic.  If it doesn't, a 2 mph difference is not likely to hold up in court.

Bad driver, but not guilty is my verdict.


Yep. Because it is so close to the speed limit the only thing the officer can do here is provide dash camera footage with nothing in the right lane for a minute or so. Failing that the fine is not gonna stick.
 
jvl
2013-03-12 03:02:04 PM  

J.Shelby: That, the right lane, is the cruising lane.  Its really that simple.  Really.


It's the passing lane, not the cruising lane crazy guy.  Get out of it cruiser!

/ Watching with amusement from the right lane where I belong
 
2013-03-12 03:02:06 PM  

scottydoesntknow: StrandedInAZ: I so wish they would ticket for that here. It's worse when you're trying to get to work or home in rush-hour traffic and some blue haired snowbird is driving 45 in the left lane, completely oblivious to how badly he's farking up traffic. You can drive below the speed limit, but get the hell over so people can pass you. Why is that so hard?

Because 9 times out of 10 the people who drive that slow are chicken shiats who don't want to be on the road in the first place. By moving to the far left lane they only have to deal with drivers on one side of them instead of two. Even the right lane has to deal with people entering/exiting.

They just don't want the headaches of actually paying attention to their surroundings.


They could just not drive then.  If they are refusing to adhere to the rules of the road, then they shouldn't join the population that does adhere to them.


/your namesake is a catchy tune.
 
2013-03-12 03:02:12 PM  

ZAZ: While she was in the wrong morally, she was probably not in the wrong legally. In Maryland you can stay in the left lane as long as you are within 10 mph of the speed limit.  Most states require drivers to keep right when moving slower than the normal speed of traffic.


In Utah you can get a ticket for not getting over if someone is approaching you, regardless of your speed. If you're doing 20 mph over the speed limit and a car still overtakes you, you have to move over, otherwise you can get ticketed. The other driver can get ticketed also, of course, but you have to get out of that lane if you are impeding traffic at all. The rest of the time, you can travel that lane to your heart's content.
 
2013-03-12 03:02:14 PM  

Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?


media.npr.org

 
2013-03-12 03:02:18 PM  
Next up , people who wait until they have merged onto the highway to accelerate to highway speed instead of being at speed as they leave the on ramp.
 
2013-03-12 03:02:50 PM  
Here in WA we have "keep right except to pass" signs all up and down I-5 and yet the left lane is constantly full of people who drive below the speed limit with nobody in front of them. I would happily sentence them all to 50 lashes if I could.
 
2013-03-12 03:03:03 PM  
SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT

And the letters are much larger than those, pokey.
 
2013-03-12 03:05:19 PM  
oi48.tinypic.com
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-12 03:06:29 PM  
uberaverage: Her speed had nothing to do with the ticket! She did not move to the right when a police car was behind her.

That's what it takes to get a failure to keep right ticket in Massachusetts. You can even get speeding and failure to keep right at the same time.

The ticket count for "failure to drive in the right lane" is up to a few thousand per year, but they are almost all (1) driving on the shoulder to get to an exit when traffic is stopped, (2) pretext for a drug search, (3) obstructing a state trooper.
 
2013-03-12 03:06:33 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: ZAZ: While she was in the wrong morally, she was probably not in the wrong legally. In Maryland you can stay in the left lane as long as you are within 10 mph of the speed limit.  Most states require drivers to keep right when moving slower than the normal speed of traffic.

Incorrect.

/Laws change. Unofficial websites that quote them do not. ;)


No, that law has to do with a posted MINIMUM speed. Some speed limit signs have a MINIMUM SPEED limit on them. (They often look like this)

This appears to be current, and yes, by her own admission, she earns a ticket:

"(b) Special rule for slow-moving traffic.- On every roadway, except while overtaking and passing another vehicle going in the same direction or when preparing for a lawful left turn, any vehicle going 10 miles an hour or more below the applicable maximum speed limit or, if any existing conditions reasonably require a speed below that of the applicable maximum, at less than the normal speed of traffic under these conditions, shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway." (Emphasis mine)

TFA:
"This was the first time she'd ever gotten a ticket -- but on Friday, she said, the area was experiencing heavy winds and she had slowed down to be safe."

She earned herself a ticket, and if she said this in court, she reinforced it.
 
2013-03-12 03:06:42 PM  
uicmuntestingserver.goonygoon.com
 
2013-03-12 03:06:57 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Fully paid off and insured 14 year old Jeep. Single farks, I ain't got one.


www.screeninsults.com
 
2013-03-12 03:07:42 PM  
Maryland needs farkload more of this.
 
2013-03-12 03:12:59 PM  
Cop deserves the Hero tag.
 
2013-03-12 03:14:57 PM  

liam76: Maryland needs farkload more of this.


San Diego is actually pretty good for this on the whole.  Now, convincing drivers to let you merge is another issue.
if you really want to pull your hair out, drive around Oahu sometime.  You would think people get paid by the hour to drive.
 
2013-03-12 03:16:25 PM  

bongmiester: meanwhile in Russia ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1qcIAFSwg


I love how some people get out and are all like
"Dude what the fark?!"

Well, don't cut off a 4 ton vehicle asshole.
 
2013-03-12 03:16:36 PM  
Did the laws in Maryland change?   Were they forced into a national standard?  Back when I lived there, (15 years ago) the I-95 left lanes were 'no trucks' and any lane was for passing.   They took down the 'pass in left lane' signs in the early 1980s.
 
2013-03-12 03:18:26 PM  
Oh, and in case anyone hasn't said it yet...495 in Virginia, and basically anything above Quantico on I95 is a godforsaken clusterfark hellhole that should not exist.

I'm sure Maryland leading into DC and Virginia is the same.
 
2013-03-12 03:20:37 PM  

ahchoo: sentex: bluenote13:   My dad is one of those people that gets in the far left lane and sets the cruise control at the speed limit...even when the other 4 lanes next to him are cars flying past him honking and screaming.

Your dad is an asshole

THIS


We tell him this every time we are in the car with him.  His response is 'there are four other lanes they can use'.  Of course he is the same person who gets pissed off at people out in public walking too slow in front of him.
 
2013-03-12 03:22:19 PM  

Rhypskallion: Did the laws in Maryland change?   Were they forced into a national standard?  Back when I lived there, (15 years ago) the I-95 left lanes were 'no trucks' and any lane was for passing.   They took down the 'pass in left lane' signs in the early 1980s.


I posted a link farther up to a site with a listing of keep right laws. MD does not appear to have one that applies here. It seems this woman may have a pretty good case.
 
2013-03-12 03:22:44 PM  
i14.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-12 03:23:37 PM  
The ticketing officer is a bona-fide Hero.  The only more appropriate use for the term 'Hero' would be a cop ticketing a smoker for throwing a cigarette butt on the ground.
 
2013-03-12 03:24:57 PM  

JustGetItRight: timujin: "The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

No, it's sending the message that if you're "experiencing heavy winds and <have> slowed down to be safe." you should also move over to the right lane.

Also:
[www.majhost.com image 489x323]

/yes, I know it doesn't cover every single instance
//but it's a handy guideline for people like this woman.

You're over complicating things.

Are you in the left lane?
If Yes, is there a car immediately in front of you?
If no, you're in the wrong lane.  Move over as soon as the right one is empty.


*sigh* No, you got that wrong.
Are you in the left lane?
If Yes, is there a car riding your ass?
If Yes, get the fark over slow poke.
 
2013-03-12 03:25:44 PM  
Hero tag for the cop. Also, is there anywhere I can petition the government to add another lane on heavily driven 4-lane divided highways (meaning 2 lanes for each direction)? I-65 between Chicago and Indianapolis, I am looking in your general direction.
 
2013-03-12 03:27:25 PM  
Just yesterday we had a slow person in the left lane on 295 (a two lane highway).  Everyone was passing them on the Right until the cop that was behind me, went over into the left hand land, turned on his high beams and lights and got on the bullhorn "Move over to the right hand lane".

Damn, I wish I had known he was going to do that, I would have made a video.  Needless to say, I'm sure everyone behind him was extremely happy.

FYI, the posted speed limit on 295 Maryland is 55, but regular flow of traffic is 70.  This was around the Laurel area just before NSA.
 
2013-03-12 03:28:09 PM  

skozlaw: Rhypskallion: Did the laws in Maryland change?   Were they forced into a national standard?  Back when I lived there, (15 years ago) the I-95 left lanes were 'no trucks' and any lane was for passing.   They took down the 'pass in left lane' signs in the early 1980s.

I posted a link farther up to a site with a listing of keep right laws. MD does not appear to have one that applies here. It seems this woman may have a pretty good case.



So does that mean the "slower traffic keep right" signs are invalid? Because I've been in the car with someone who was pulled over for exactly that.
http://goo.gl/maps/O5b23
 
2013-03-12 03:28:46 PM  

johnny_vegas: liam76: Maryland needs farkload more of this.

San Diego is actually pretty good for this on the whole.  Now, convincing drivers to let you merge is another issue.
if you really want to pull your hair out, drive around Oahu sometime.  You would think people get paid by the hour to drive.


I din't a project there and was otu for a week and a half two times.  ALmost every day I had to either drive around the Island or over Pali highway.  Much better there than MD when it comes to being slow in the left lane for no reason.
 
2013-03-12 03:29:19 PM  
The driver, who didn't want her name used, told NBC Washington she was driving in the left lane of I-95 in Laurel last Friday when she was pulled over and cited for failing to move right.

According to the citation, she had been driving 63 mph in a 65 mph zone.

"[I was] really shocked," she said. "I thought, 'Oh, my God, you've got to be kidding me.'"

This was the first time she had gotten a ticket. She said there was heavy wind and she had slowed down to be safe.

"Sometimes when it's dangerous, you have to do what you can to stay safe," she said.

NBC Washington meteorologist Doug Kammerer said that winds were gusting at about 40 mph that day.


"The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that.'"

 SHE WASN'T PENALIZED FOR GOING BELOW THE SPEED LIMIT, YOU FARKWIT.

She was penalized for not moving the fark over to the right lane.
 
2013-03-12 03:32:00 PM  

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: I would assume that the radar has a +/-2 mph margin of error. So maybe she was driving right at the speed limit.


She wasn't ticked for her speed - she was ticketed for not moving to the right lane.

It's right in the farking article.
 
2013-03-12 03:32:29 PM  

germ78: Hero tag for the cop. Also, is there anywhere I can petition the government to add another lane on heavily driven 4-lane divided highways (meaning 2 lanes for each direction)? I-65 between Chicago and Indianapolis, I am looking in your general direction.


If there is, I have a few suggestions.  HWY 18 between Newberg and Lincoln City needs to be widened.  I'm tired of doing 10 under the speed limit just because corners scare the soccer moms and SUV drivers.

Although there are passing lanes, it has become a blood sport to pass anyone.  It seems most people take it as a challenge.  I'm not passing you to risk my life, I'm passing you so I can get on with it, you slow ass fark tard. Nothing like the look on someones face when you pull out next to them, they floor it, and watch you fly past them anyways.  I love my 400bhp car.
 
2013-03-12 03:32:29 PM  

ggecko: Time for some more Russian car cam videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_gP03lhe0


Is it me or are the reactions in the car pretty damn funny?
 
2013-03-12 03:32:53 PM  

ZAZ: While she was in the wrong morally, she was probably not in the wrong legally. In Maryland you can stay in the left lane as long as you are within 10 mph of the speed limit.  Most states require drivers to keep right when moving slower than the normal speed of traffic.


I'm fairly sure they just changed the law so that if you are impeading traffic in the left lane, you are breaking the law. So she was wrong legally.
 
2013-03-12 03:34:05 PM  
"And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

Impeding traffic is a significant cause of accidents. Regardless of the speed limit, the slower traffic should keep right or at least yeild to faster traffic behind. If you can't drive with the flow of traffic (or especially if you feel that it's your job to make everybody else drive at a certain speed), then get off the road before you cause an accident and kill someone.
 
2013-03-12 03:35:33 PM  

Kahabut: germ78: Hero tag for the cop. Also, is there anywhere I can petition the government to add another lane on heavily driven 4-lane divided highways (meaning 2 lanes for each direction)? I-65 between Chicago and Indianapolis, I am looking in your general direction.

If there is, I have a few suggestions.  HWY 18 between Newberg and Lincoln City needs to be widened.  I'm tired of doing 10 under the speed limit just because corners scare the soccer moms and SUV drivers.

Although there are passing lanes, it has become a blood sport to pass anyone.  It seems most people take it as a challenge.  I'm not passing you to risk my life, I'm passing you so I can get on with it, you slow ass fark tard. Nothing like the look on someones face when you pull out next to them, they floor it, and watch you fly past them anyways.  I love my 400bhp car.


I've had so many old men and women in SUV's try that shiat with me.  I set my cruise, and I ride up on their ass, pass when I can, they try and race(fail) then when I get back over I go to my cruising speed...now all of a sudden they're riding my ass acting like they're going to pass me.   I'm not sure why they're so offended, my speed will not hinder them, and I didn't affect their travel...at all.

Normally I can out accelerate them enough that they don't even have to slow down to merge back into their lane when they try and re-pass me.
 
2013-03-12 03:35:52 PM  
Tailgaters should also be targeted.  You're retarded morons.  Yes, that's redundant, but tailgating at 60mph, or any speed, is purely idiotic, and you should be fined $100s for it with limited chances of appeal.

German authorities ticket for this on the Autobahn, I think.  It's a seriously dangerous traffic violation, and I assume there are some mouthbreathing, righteous, ca. 100-IQ retards in here who do it regularly, because they fantasize that they need to get somewhere so fast, it justifies endangering lives.  You probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.
 
2013-03-12 03:36:14 PM  
My hero, although it was not something he was patrolling for the person was probably just pissing him off.

These people are 10X the safety hazard that speeding is IMO.  They cause people to swing in front of other slow moving traffic on the right and generally cause road rage across the board.

Driving through Oregon, I thought it was state law that you do 5 under in the left lane.  It was insane, from top to bottom of the state, almost the entire distance.
 
2013-03-12 03:36:58 PM  
Staying in the passing lane, expecially going under the speed limit, creates an incentive for drivers to pass you on the right, which is dangerous.  Therefor, driving like that is dangerous driving.
 
2013-03-12 03:38:55 PM  

Blame Hofmann: Tailgaters should also be targeted. You're retarded morons. Yes, that's redundant, but tailgating at 60mph, or any speed, is purely idiotic, and you should be fined $100s for it with limited chances of appeal


If you got your slow ass out of the passing lane, maybe people wouldn't tailgate you.

Pretty simple fix.
 
2013-03-12 03:38:59 PM  

Blame Hofmann: Tailgaters should also be targeted.  You're retarded morons.  Yes, that's redundant, but tailgating at 60mph, or any speed, is purely idiotic, and you should be fined $100s for it with limited chances of appeal.

German authorities ticket for this on the Autobahn, I think.  It's a seriously dangerous traffic violation, and I assume there are some mouthbreathing, righteous, ca. 100-IQ retards in here who do it regularly, because they fantasize that they need to get somewhere so fast, it justifies endangering lives.  You probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.


If it bothers you so much...get the fark out of the way.
 
2013-03-12 03:39:38 PM  

Itstoearly: Staying in the passing lane, expecially going under the speed limit, creates an incentive for drivers to pass you on the right, which is dangerous.  Therefor, driving like that is dangerous driving.


Tractor Trailers that ride the center lane cause this problem all the time.
 
2013-03-12 03:40:36 PM  
People like this are passive-aggressive drivers.
 
2013-03-12 03:44:44 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Blame Hofmann: Tailgaters should also be targeted. You're retarded morons. Yes, that's redundant, but tailgating at 60mph, or any speed, is purely idiotic, and you should be fined $100s for it with limited chances of appeal

If you got your slow ass out of the passing lane, maybe people wouldn't tailgate you.

Pretty simple fix.


Girion47: Blame Hofmann: Tailgaters should also be targeted.  You're retarded morons.  Yes, that's redundant, but tailgating at 60mph, or any speed, is purely idiotic, and you should be fined $100s for it with limited chances of appeal.

German authorities ticket for this on the Autobahn, I think.  It's a seriously dangerous traffic violation, and I assume there are some mouthbreathing, righteous, ca. 100-IQ retards in here who do it regularly, because they fantasize that they need to get somewhere so fast, it justifies endangering lives.  You probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.

If it bothers you so much...get the fark out of the way.


I don't get tailgated because I don't hover in the left lane.  None of what either of you said changes that tailgating is:
1.  illegal
2. very stupid
3. dangerous
4 and, that you two, and others who do it are:
a. stupid,
b. righteous
c. dangerous,
d. and shouldn't be on the road

Why don't you consider public safety when you drive?  You probably shouldn't be allowed to drive if you think dangerous illegal activity is a proper response to someone improperly hovering in the left lane.

Anyway, I'm finished, I won't have a discussion with morons whose brains operate like this.
 
2013-03-12 03:45:09 PM  

scottydoesntknow: StrandedInAZ: I so wish they would ticket for that here. It's worse when you're trying to get to work or home in rush-hour traffic and some blue haired snowbird is driving 45 in the left lane, completely oblivious to how badly he's farking up traffic. You can drive below the speed limit, but get the hell over so people can pass you. Why is that so hard?

Because 9 times out of 10 the people who drive that slow are chicken shiats who don't want to be on the road in the first place. By moving to the far left lane they only have to deal with drivers on one side of them instead of two. Even the right lane has to deal with people entering/exiting.

They just don't want the headaches of actually paying attention to their surroundings.


THIS.  Also, these people are the people for whom all the speed limits are set.  We wouldn't want to frighten them into.........not driving.
 
2013-03-12 03:47:45 PM  

Erebus1954: People like this are passive-aggressive drivers.


Word.

You aren't a cop, lady.  Get out of the passing lane.
 
2013-03-12 03:48:48 PM  
files.abovetopsecret.com

files.abovetopsecret.com
 
2013-03-12 03:49:45 PM  
I just emailed the Maryland State police and told them thank you.
 
2013-03-12 03:51:25 PM  

VoodooTaco: timujin: "The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

No, it's sending the message that if you're "experiencing heavy winds and <have> slowed down to be safe." you should also move over to the right lane.

Also:
[www.majhost.com image 489x323]

Does not apply in MD.  Or 64 in VA.


What do you mean by "it doesn't apply in MD"?  It applies anywhere you're driving on a freeway.  Driving slowly in the left lane causes a traffic hazard as faster traffic is forced to pass you on the right, which is inherently more dangerous.
 
2013-03-12 03:51:51 PM  

The Muthaship: Erebus1954: People like this are passive-aggressive drivers.

Word.

You aren't a cop, lady.  Get out of the passing lane.


Then there's this guy (NSFW language in article):

http://jalopnik.com/5978168/the-jackass-in-this-grand-am-will-totall y- tell-on-you-for-speeding
 
2013-03-12 03:52:55 PM  
mimg.ugo.com
 
2013-03-12 03:53:10 PM  

Blame Hofmann: scottydoesntknow: Blame Hofmann: Tailgaters should also be targeted. You're retarded morons. Yes, that's redundant, but tailgating at 60mph, or any speed, is purely idiotic, and you should be fined $100s for it with limited chances of appeal

If you got your slow ass out of the passing lane, maybe people wouldn't tailgate you.

Pretty simple fix.

Girion47: Blame Hofmann: Tailgaters should also be targeted.  You're retarded morons.  Yes, that's redundant, but tailgating at 60mph, or any speed, is purely idiotic, and you should be fined $100s for it with limited chances of appeal.

German authorities ticket for this on the Autobahn, I think.  It's a seriously dangerous traffic violation, and I assume there are some mouthbreathing, righteous, ca. 100-IQ retards in here who do it regularly, because they fantasize that they need to get somewhere so fast, it justifies endangering lives.  You probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.

If it bothers you so much...get the fark out of the way.

I don't get tailgated because I don't hover in the left lane.  None of what either of you said changes that tailgating is:
1.  illegal
2. very stupid
3. dangerous
4 and, that you two, and others who do it are:
a. stupid,
b. righteous
c. dangerous,
d. and shouldn't be on the road

Why don't you consider public safety when you drive?  You probably shouldn't be allowed to drive if you think dangerous illegal activity is a proper response to someone improperly hovering in the left lane.

Anyway, I'm finished, I won't have a discussion with morons whose brains operate like this.


I dont tailgate, I just pass them on the right.  This is legal in most states, it's just rude.  They are already being rude so screw them.  The golden rule on the road for me is "do unto others as they have done unto you".
 
2013-03-12 03:54:40 PM  

Blame Hofmann: scottydoesntknow: Blame Hofmann: Tailgaters should also be targeted. You're retarded morons. Yes, that's redundant, but tailgating at 60mph, or any speed, is purely idiotic, and you should be fined $100s for it with limited chances of appeal

If you got your slow ass out of the passing lane, maybe people wouldn't tailgate you.

Pretty simple fix.

Girion47: Blame Hofmann: Tailgaters should also be targeted.  You're retarded morons.  Yes, that's redundant, but tailgating at 60mph, or any speed, is purely idiotic, and you should be fined $100s for it with limited chances of appeal.

German authorities ticket for this on the Autobahn, I think.  It's a seriously dangerous traffic violation, and I assume there are some mouthbreathing, righteous, ca. 100-IQ retards in here who do it regularly, because they fantasize that they need to get somewhere so fast, it justifies endangering lives.  You probably shouldn't be allowed to drive.

If it bothers you so much...get the fark out of the way.

I don't get tailgated because I don't hover in the left lane.  None of what either of you said changes that tailgating is:
1.  illegal
2. very stupid
3. dangerous
4 and, that you two, and others who do it are:
a. stupid,
b. righteous
c. dangerous,
d. and shouldn't be on the road

Why don't you consider public safety when you drive?  You probably shouldn't be allowed to drive if you think dangerous illegal activity is a proper response to someone improperly hovering in the left lane.

Anyway, I'm finished, I won't have a discussion with morons whose brains operate like this.


If you're not hovering in the left-lane, then the discussion isn't about you.  I seriously doubt people are tailgating you in the right, or slow lane, assuming, of course that in you country traffic drives on the right side of the road.
 
2013-03-12 03:54:53 PM  
Girion47:

If it bothers you so much...get the fark out of the way.

Kind of hard to do on roads without passing lanes. Some people tailgate no matter what speed you're driving. I usually go at least 5 mph over on small or residential roads but when someone gets right up behind me I slow way down. Pass me if you really need to.
 
2013-03-12 03:55:42 PM  

JustGetItRight: timujin: "The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

No, it's sending the message that if you're "experiencing heavy winds and <have> slowed down to be safe." you should also move over to the right lane.

Also:
[www.majhost.com image 489x323]

/yes, I know it doesn't cover every single instance
//but it's a handy guideline for people like this woman.

You're over complicating things.

Are you in the left lane?
If Yes, is there a car immediately in front of you?
If no, you're in the wrong lane.  Move over as soon as the right one is empty.


What does a car being in front of you (in your lane, it seems you're saying, due to the word "immediately") have to do with when you move over?  If there's someone in the lane to your right and they're going slower than you are, wait until you are past them and move over.  If they're moving faster than you, you're in the wrong lane, move the fark over.  If there's no one in the lane to your right, move the fark over.
 
2013-03-12 03:56:06 PM  
Spiral roads, people. Spiral roads.

Rule 1: Every five miles a new lane appears on the left and half a mile later a lane disappears from the right. This naturally collects dull people in the right hand lane without them having to ever waste precious brain cells on things other than texting and talking on the phone.

Rule 2: Lanes may ONLY appear on the left.

Rule 3: Lanes may ONLY end on the right.

Rule 4: Lines and chevrons make the left lane appear smaller and the right lane appear larger to make dull people less comfortable being in the left lane.
 
2013-03-12 03:57:49 PM  
 Blame Hofmann: Tailgaters should also be targeted. You're retarded morons. Yes, that's redundant, but tailgating at 60mph, or any speed, is purely idiotic, and you should be fined $100s for it with limited chances of appeal.

German authorities ticket for this on the Autobahn, I think.

they also ticket you if you fail to yield when someone behind you flashes their high beams
 
2013-03-12 03:58:44 PM  
Good job officer! I so wish they would do that down here where we have people that go 40 MPH in a 70 MPH in the left lane passing cars that are backing up in the right lane trying to exit or enter the interstate. I don't even take the interstate anymore even though the alternate route is well out of my way. Also slowing down because of wind? Someone no longer needs to be driving.
 
2013-03-12 04:00:05 PM  

timujin: JustGetItRight: timujin: "The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

No, it's sending the message that if you're "experiencing heavy winds and <have> slowed down to be safe." you should also move over to the right lane.

Also:
[www.majhost.com image 489x323]

/yes, I know it doesn't cover every single instance
//but it's a handy guideline for people like this woman.

You're over complicating things.

Are you in the left lane?
If Yes, is there a car immediately in front of you?
If no, you're in the wrong lane.  Move over as soon as the right one is empty.

What does a car being in front of you (in your lane, it seems you're saying, due to the word "immediately") have to do with when you move over?  If there's someone in the lane to your right and they're going slower than you are, wait until you are past them and move over.  If they're moving faster than you, you're in the wrong lane, move the fark over.  If there's no one in the lane to your right, move the fark over.


If you actually need a flowchart or series of questions about your current situation to determine what lane you should be in, I propose you should just let someone else drive.
 
2013-03-12 04:01:30 PM  

Blame Hofmann: Why don't you consider public safety when you drive? You probably shouldn't be allowed to drive if you think dangerous illegal activity is a proper response to someone improperly hovering in the left lane.


While tailgating is dangerous, so is cruising in the left lane, as it forces faster traffic to pass on the right.
 
2013-03-12 04:01:32 PM  

Blame Hofmann: You probably shouldn't be allowed to drive if you think dangerous illegal activity is a proper response to someone improperly hovering in the left lane dangerous illegal activity.


FTFY. As many others have pointed out, its very dangerous to just hover in the left lane throwing traffic off, and as the article demonstrates, also illegal.
 
2013-03-12 04:02:47 PM  
Though I suspect that this was entirely about irritating the cop, I'm not horrified with this woman's being ticketed.  The woman was behaving antisocially.  But I have to disagree with the faction of the lynch mob in here saying that slow drivers in the left lane cause accidents because they "make" the people who wish to go faster pass on the right.  No one makes an aspiring speeder pass on the right except for the aspiring speeder herself.
 
2013-03-12 04:04:25 PM  

ChildOfBhaal: Though I suspect that this was entirely about irritating the cop, I'm not horrified with this woman's being ticketed.  The woman was behaving antisocially.  But I have to disagree with the faction of the lynch mob in here saying that slow drivers in the left lane cause accidents because they "make" the people who wish to go faster pass on the right.  No one makes an aspiring speeder pass on the right except for the aspiring speeder herself.


What does this case have to do with speeders?  Someone could pass this woman on the right by going the speed limit, as she was driving below it.
 
2013-03-12 04:05:27 PM  

ChildOfBhaal: No one makes an aspiring speeder pass on the right except for the aspiring speeder herself.

the asshole on the left lane who refuses to obey the law
 
2013-03-12 04:05:54 PM  

the ha ha guy: So does that mean the "slower traffic keep right" signs are invalid? Because I've been in the car with someone who was pulled over for exactly that.


I have no idea. I live in PA where we have keep right (and people don't anyway, of course, because it's never really enforced). But that link above says that there are only some circumstances where it applies in MD.

The MIT link could just as easily be wrong, I have no idea when it was compiled or if it's ever updated.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-12 04:08:41 PM  
I'm not an "aspiring" speeder. I am a highly accomplished speeder. I have exceeded the speed limit in most of the United States.
 
2013-03-12 04:08:55 PM  

ChildOfBhaal: But I have to disagree with the faction of the lynch mob in here saying that slow drivers in the left lane cause accidents because they "make" the people who wish to go faster pass on the right. No one makes an aspiring speeder pass on the right except for the aspiring speeder herself.


Sure, they don't "force" the people to change on the right, but they also don't leave them any other option.
 
2013-03-12 04:13:43 PM  

GanjSmokr: timujin: JustGetItRight: timujin: "The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

No, it's sending the message that if you're "experiencing heavy winds and <have> slowed down to be safe." you should also move over to the right lane.

Also:
[www.majhost.com image 489x323]

/yes, I know it doesn't cover every single instance
//but it's a handy guideline for people like this woman.

You're over complicating things.

Are you in the left lane?
If Yes, is there a car immediately in front of you?
If no, you're in the wrong lane.  Move over as soon as the right one is empty.

What does a car being in front of you (in your lane, it seems you're saying, due to the word "immediately") have to do with when you move over?  If there's someone in the lane to your right and they're going slower than you are, wait until you are past them and move over.  If they're moving faster than you, you're in the wrong lane, move the fark over.  If there's no one in the lane to your right, move the fark over.

If you actually need a flowchart or series of questions about your current situation to determine what lane you should be in, I propose you should just let someone else drive.


I would agree, but some people need all the help they can get.  I'm simply offering it to them.
 
2013-03-12 04:14:10 PM  
THIS IS the feel good story of the day!

Left lane slowpokes are pathetic little control freaks who have no control over their own lives, so they try to ease the pain by trying to exert a little bit of control over others.
 
2013-03-12 04:21:18 PM  
BuckTurgidson:
i14.photobucket.com

I LOL at that caption because my wife says it perfectly captures my driving style. I don't speed much, but I get incensed by lollygagging drivers who can't be bothered to go when the light turns green, left lane hogs, entering the freeway 10 mph slower than traffic, etc.

/thinks she's silently cheering for the stress to give me the Big One... ;^)
 
2013-03-12 04:22:02 PM  

timujin: GanjSmokr: timujin: JustGetItRight: timujin: "The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

No, it's sending the message that if you're "experiencing heavy winds and <have> slowed down to be safe." you should also move over to the right lane.

Also:
[www.majhost.com image 489x323]

/yes, I know it doesn't cover every single instance
//but it's a handy guideline for people like this woman.

You're over complicating things.

Are you in the left lane?
If Yes, is there a car immediately in front of you?
If no, you're in the wrong lane.  Move over as soon as the right one is empty.

What does a car being in front of you (in your lane, it seems you're saying, due to the word "immediately") have to do with when you move over?  If there's someone in the lane to your right and they're going slower than you are, wait until you are past them and move over.  If they're moving faster than you, you're in the wrong lane, move the fark over.  If there's no one in the lane to your right, move the fark over.

If you actually need a flowchart or series of questions about your current situation to determine what lane you should be in, I propose you should just let someone else drive.

I would agree, but some people need all the help they can get.  I'm simply offering it to them.


I agree that some people need more help than others.  My suggestion to let someone else drive is just my way of offering them help as well :)
 
2013-03-12 04:23:08 PM  
She wasn't ticketed for driving slow. She was ticketed for not letting people behind her pass. If I were the officer I'd write up the ticket without even mentioning her speed.
 
2013-03-12 04:24:39 PM  

Girion47: Kahabut: germ78: Hero tag for the cop. Also, is there anywhere I can petition the government to add another lane on heavily driven 4-lane divided highways (meaning 2 lanes for each direction)? I-65 between Chicago and Indianapolis, I am looking in your general direction.

If there is, I have a few suggestions.  HWY 18 between Newberg and Lincoln City needs to be widened.  I'm tired of doing 10 under the speed limit just because corners scare the soccer moms and SUV drivers.

Although there are passing lanes, it has become a blood sport to pass anyone.  It seems most people take it as a challenge.  I'm not passing you to risk my life, I'm passing you so I can get on with it, you slow ass fark tard. Nothing like the look on someones face when you pull out next to them, they floor it, and watch you fly past them anyways.  I love my 400bhp car.

I've had so many old men and women in SUV's try that shiat with me.  I set my cruise, and I ride up on their ass, pass when I can, they try and race(fail) then when I get back over I go to my cruising speed...now all of a sudden they're riding my ass acting like they're going to pass me.   I'm not sure why they're so offended, my speed will not hinder them, and I didn't affect their travel...at all.

Normally I can out accelerate them enough that they don't even have to slow down to merge back into their lane when they try and re-pass me.


People are nuts, I don't really have a better answer.

CSB/
I was driving on a local road known for being dangerous and curvy.  It is in fact a mountain pass.  So anyway, it's 2:30am and I have 3 hours of driving to do tonight, so I'm not going slow.  I come across a lowered honda with a big wing on it and very loud exhuast.  I have to slow down.  I ride behind them for half a mile going under the speed limit.  Now, I know this road, I could drive it with my eyes closed, so I know after the next wide corner is a straight with a passing area.  I back off and then floor it halfway into the corner, pulling over a G to come out fast and straight in the oncoming lane.  It works and I blow past the honda.  I pull back in and reduce speed down to my normal 65ish.  The honda decides to try and catch me.  (reminder, mountain road, very twisty)  They catch up just before the next hard corner, a double S curve with a wicked elevation change in the middle.  I go in at 65, they go in behind me at 70+.  The honda loses it and does a nice 360 ending up on the wrong shoulder of the road (luckily, the other shoulder is a 120 ft drop).  I continued on at 65.  MORAL: I know how to drive, do you?
 
2013-03-12 04:25:36 PM  
i usually drive speed limit +5 on the freeway. i stay to the right, give people room to merge and try to be patient and courteous. BUT IF THE MF IN THE F-150 DOESN'T QUIT FLASHING HIS LIGHTS AND RIDING MY ASS I AM GOING TO LOCK UP THE BRAKES, HOPE THE CRASH DOESN'T KILL ME, GET OUT OF MY CAR AND BEAT HIM UNTIL THEY HAVE TO IDENTIFY HIM THROUGH DNA SAMPLES . seriously, the only thing as bad as the people who clog the left lane are the ones who won't use it for passing when they can.
 
2013-03-12 04:26:30 PM  
I remember a short story... Harlan Ellison, maybe?  Anyway, it start off with a police helicopter flying over the L.A. freeways, the pilot sees this pickup truck going ten miles under the speed limit and shoots him with a paint gun, marking him for a ticket later.

/could be mixing up the details
//like the idea of ticketing folks who are holding up traffic
///can't tell you how many times I've come up on a traffic snarl only to find out it wasn't due to any real issue other than some douche going 60 in the far left lane and forcing traffic to pass on their right.
 
2013-03-12 04:29:11 PM  
I'm ok with this.

I decided long ago that the first thing I will do upon receiving a terminal cancer diagnosis is to gather up all of my guns and go on a Mad Max rampage to take out every left-lane camper I come across. You people are the scum of the Earth.
 
2013-03-12 04:31:28 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: SlothB77: Impeding people from speeding?

Yes. It's against the law.


unless it's a bike

then you can just plod along at 7mph with a line 2 miles long behind you

and somehow that isn't impeding traffic
 
2013-03-12 04:32:54 PM  

timujin: .What does this case have to do with speeders?  Someone could pass this woman on the right by going the speed limit, as she was driving below it.


Granted, but let's be realistic.

scottydoesntknow: Sure, they don't "force" the people to change on the right, but they also don't leave them any other option.


No option except for the best, most safe one: Sucking it up and maintaining a safe stopping distance (which is at least a little bit less than the canonical car-length per 10 mph) while making your hopes and dreams for yourself, your car, and that particular lane of traffic crystal clear.  It's a tough balancing act, and it's not particularly emotionally satisfying.  But it is a third option (other than tailgating or passing on the right).   And, to the extent that passing on the right is dangerous (as many claimed above), it's the preferable option.
 
2013-03-12 04:33:07 PM  

BuckTurgidson: [i14.photobucket.com image 600x399]


I am a cat.  That clears up a lot of questions for me.

Thank you, Buck
 
2013-03-12 04:35:52 PM  
StrandedInAZ: I so wish they would ticket for that here. It's worse when you're trying to get to work or home in rush-hour traffic and some blue haired snowbird is driving 45 in the left lane, completely oblivious to how badly he's farking up traffic. You can drive below the speed limit, but get the hell over so people can pass you. Why is that so hard?

THIS. In Germany on the Autobahn where they have no speed limit (outside of the cities) but strictly enforce the pass left drive right the highways are SAFER than our nanny speed limited highways.
 
2013-03-12 04:36:49 PM  

timujin: While tailgating is dangerous, so is cruising in the left lane, as it forces faster traffic to pass on the right.


Even better...  Cruising in the left lane just behind and going the same speed as a vehicle in the right lane (and the only other vehicle in sight).  In other words, riding along in your blind spot.

/had this happen to me more than once
//seems they get comfy letting you set the pace
///have to either floor it or downshift to break the connection
 
2013-03-12 04:41:01 PM  

vudutek: To all of those who sport the following bumper sticker:

"I may be slow, but I'm ahead of you"

That's only because it's illegal to run your sorry ass into a ditch.

/'98 Camry, another scratch ain't gonna bother me.


I miss my old 1975 Buick  Riviera, there wouldn't have been a scratch

// door must have weighed 200lbs by itself
 
2013-03-12 04:41:56 PM  
umad: I'm ok with this.

I decided long ago that the first thing I will do upon receiving a terminal cancer diagnosis is to gather up all of my guns and go on a Mad Max rampage to take out every left-lane camper I come across. You people are the scum of the Earth.


THIS. And I smoke so cancer is a very real possibility.
 
2013-03-12 04:44:31 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: JustGetItRight: timujin: "The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

No, it's sending the message that if you're "experiencing heavy winds and <have> slowed down to be safe." you should also move over to the right lane.

Also:
[www.majhost.com image 489x323]

/yes, I know it doesn't cover every single instance
//but it's a handy guideline for people like this woman.

You're over complicating things.

Are you in the left lane?
If Yes, is there a car immediately in front of you?
If no, you're in the wrong lane.  Move over as soon as the right one is empty.

*sigh* No, you got that wrong.
Are you in the left lane?
If Yes, is there a car riding your ass?
If Yes, get the fark over slow poke.


If there's a car in front of you, you've caught them.  They're the slow poke that needs to move over.
 
2013-03-12 04:44:48 PM  
Oh thank GOD for this.
 
2013-03-12 04:45:08 PM  

timujin: What does a car being in front of you (in your lane, it seems you're saying, due to the word "immediately") have to do with when you move over? If there's someone in the lane to your right and they're going slower than you are, wait until you are past them and move over. If they're moving faster than you, you're in the wrong lane, move the fark over. If there's no one in the lane to your right, move the fark over.


If there is someone in front of you, it means you've caught them from behind and thus they're the one holding up traffic.
 
2013-03-12 04:48:40 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: JustGetItRight: timujin: "The reason [the ticket] is silly is because it's sending the wrong message," said John Townsend of AAA Mid-Atlantic. "And that is, 'We will tolerate you driving at more than the speed limit, but it you drive below the speed limit, then you're penalized for that'."

No, it's sending the message that if you're "experiencing heavy winds and <have> slowed down to be safe." you should also move over to the right lane.

Also:
[www.majhost.com image 489x323]

/yes, I know it doesn't cover every single instance
//but it's a handy guideline for people like this woman.

You're over complicating things.

Are you in the left lane?
If Yes, is there a car immediately in front of you?
If no, you're in the wrong lane.  Move over as soon as the right one is empty.

*sigh* No, you got that wrong.
Are you in the left lane?
If Yes, is there a car riding your ass?
If Yes, get the fark over slow poke.


If you're passing slower traffic to the right, you can't get over.  If there's no traffic there, you shouldn't be in the left lane to begin with.

If you come up on someone in the left lane going slower than you and they're passing someone in the next lane who is going even slower, then you should match their speed at a safe distance, wait for them to pass the person to their right and then they should move over and allow you to pass in turn.
 
2013-03-12 04:48:56 PM  
I think part of the problem is there's no (or very little) drivers' ed anymore. When I was in high school, we all took drivers' ed, I remember learning about how to drive in inclement, the proper distance to leave between my vehicle and the vehicle in front of me, turn signal usage, and which lane to travel in if you're passing. When you completed the class, you got a discount on your car insurance.

We even had the option to learn how to drive stick shift, which most of us took.

Drivers' ed was mandatory in my high school. I graduated in 1990, so we're not talking about a very long time ago. Do schools even have drivers' ed anymore, even as an optional class?
 
2013-03-12 04:55:14 PM  
The idiot brigade is out in force, I see. News flash: the leftmost lane is not a "passing lane." There is no such thing as a "passing lane." That is an antiquated term from the early 20th century when most roads were two-lane and you'd have to pass on the left.

Nowadays, especially on multi-lane roadways, every lane is a driving lane. I always go the speed limit in the left lane, and I love it when people tailgate me and throw their hands up in the air and make all sorts of goofy gestures. Hit me, you're at fault. Or do what I do and leave for your destination on time.
 
2013-03-12 05:01:46 PM  
Minivan? /clicks link...nope.
 
2013-03-12 05:03:04 PM  
I came up behind 2 blue hens in a Cadillac doing 10 under in the left lane (out of 3 lanes, maybe 4).  People were going around them on the right, but it was causing a problem.

I passed them (on the right) then moved into the left lane and slowed down.  I could see them in the mirror, they were all excited and stressed, and after awhile (at about 25 in a 65) they moved over a lane.  Meanwihile, people going by were blowing their horns and giving me the finger, etc.

After they moved over, I sped up and went on my way.

I saw them in the mirror, and they got back into the left lane as soon as they could, at about the same speed.

I won't do that again.
 
2013-03-12 05:04:21 PM  

Stone Meadow: but I get incensed by lollygagging drivers who can't be bothered to go when the light turns green, left lane hogs, entering the freeway 10 mph slower than traffic, etc.


and those MF'ers (who don't drive a truck) that back into parking spaces.
 
2013-03-12 05:07:00 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Spiral roads, people. Spiral roads.

Rule 1: Every five miles a new lane appears on the left and half a mile later a lane disappears from the right. This naturally collects dull people in the right hand lane without them having to ever waste precious brain cells on things other than texting and talking on the phone.

Rule 2: Lanes may ONLY appear on the left.

Rule 3: Lanes may ONLY end on the right.

Rule 4: Lines and chevrons make the left lane appear smaller and the right lane appear larger to make dull people less comfortable being in the left lane.


You are a genius.
 
2013-03-12 05:08:45 PM  

johnny_vegas: Stone Meadow: but I get incensed by lollygagging drivers who can't be bothered to go when the light turns green, left lane hogs, entering the freeway 10 mph slower than traffic, etc.

and those MF'ers (who don't drive a truck) that back into parking spaces.


It's a good idea to park so you don't have to back in or out.
I see people back out of a space when there's nothing in front of them ??
I don't mind walking a few extra feet to avoid backing up.
 
2013-03-12 05:11:44 PM  

J.Shelby: Yes !  Oh holy cr**p, yes! We don't want you to speed up; we want you to move over into the right lane.  Change lanes; its not hard.  This, the left lane, is the passing lane.  That, the right lane, is the cruising lane.  Its really that simple.  Really.


Most of I-95 in Maryland is 3-4 lanes.

So not only was she too far left, she was too far left left
 
2013-03-12 05:17:58 PM  

StrandedInAZ: I think part of the problem is there's no (or very little) drivers' ed anymore. When I was in high school, we all took drivers' ed, I remember learning about how to drive in inclement, the proper distance to leave between my vehicle and the vehicle in front of me, turn signal usage, and which lane to travel in if you're passing. When you completed the class, you got a discount on your car insurance.

We even had the option to learn how to drive stick shift, which most of us took.

Drivers' ed was mandatory in my high school. I graduated in 1990, so we're not talking about a very long time ago. Do schools even have drivers' ed anymore, even as an optional class?


The school system where my daughter goes to school does not teach driver's ed.

I graduated in 1986, and drivers ed was taught, and free.
A few years later it was taught in the school, but cost a nominal fee $60, I think.
Now it cost about $250-$300.
 
2013-03-12 05:21:01 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The idiot brigade is out in force, I see. News flash: the leftmost lane is not a "passing lane." There is no such thing as a "passing lane." That is an antiquated term from the early 20th century when most roads were two-lane and you'd have to pass on the left.

Nowadays, especially on multi-lane roadways, every lane is a driving lane. I always go the speed limit in the left lane, and I love it when people tailgate me and throw their hands up in the air and make all sorts of goofy gestures. Hit me, you're at fault. Or do what I do and leave for your destination on time.


That's a good plan, until someone shoots you.
It'll be their fault, they'll be guilty.
You'll be right, dead right.
 
2013-03-12 05:24:05 PM  

skozlaw: She might win the case. Maryland does not appear to have any sort of meaningful keep right law.


Some of the counties do. Enjoy.
 
2013-03-12 05:25:05 PM  

BunkyBrewman: In other words, she was ticketed for being a douche.  (or a Prius driver)

[legalinsurrection.com image 850x608]

The left lane is for passing asshats.  You can be a pretentious ass in your home town where it's 25mph and no passing zones.


How does the speed limit reduce CO2 emissions?  It varies from 20 to 85 (in my experience).  Do all those posted speeds reduce emissions?
 
2013-03-12 05:26:01 PM  

Kahabut: Gecko Gingrich: ZAZ: "Normal and reasonable movement of traffic" will most likely be interpreted to mean "traffic obeying the speed limit."

Except that what I recall from when this law (21-804) was passed, it was stated specifically that "normal and reasonable" was independent of the posted speed limit.

/Yes, I'm looking for that article now.

That's because in real life, the speed limit signs have very little bearing on the speed and flow of traffic on a daily basis.  The cops,  city planners and most politicians already know this.  Didn't you?

Flow of traffic depends 0% on speed limits and 50% on idiots not being in the left lane going the speed limit or under.  The other 50% is if all the combined morons on the road can avoid hitting anything.


Here I thought it was based off the 85th percentile speed.
 
2013-03-12 05:26:57 PM  
Reading this thread feels like a therapy session. I only drive 3-5 miles each way on an interstate highway (depending on which exit I take), but seldom is it uneventful.

What I find even worse than left lane campers though, are left lane "passers" who fail to speed up to pass... wait for it...

UNTIL they are moving back into the right lane!!!11!1

Put two or three people in a row who behave this way, and it may take my entire journey for them to get out of each others way. Worse yet, in that situation, they'll often pull back out to pass the next car, since the one behind them made no effort to go around.

I work a 10-6 shift just to minimize my contact with these clovers.

http://ericpetersautos.com/2011/03/27/the-clover-test/
 
2013-03-12 05:27:21 PM  

Intrepid00: skozlaw: She might win the case. Maryland does not appear to have any sort of meaningful keep right law.

Some of the counties do. Enjoy.


She might win, but it'll cost her time and trouble.
There was a similar case in Dallas, but the woman was going 5 over the posted limit.
I don't know the outcome, it was years ago.
Why not just get out of the way?
 
2013-03-12 05:31:04 PM  

jbezorg: Kahabut: Gecko Gingrich: ZAZ: "Normal and reasonable movement of traffic" will most likely be interpreted to mean "traffic obeying the speed limit."

Except that what I recall from when this law (21-804) was passed, it was stated specifically that "normal and reasonable" was independent of the posted speed limit.

/Yes, I'm looking for that article now.

That's because in real life, the speed limit signs have very little bearing on the speed and flow of traffic on a daily basis.  The cops,  city planners and most politicians already know this.  Didn't you?

Flow of traffic depends 0% on speed limits and 50% on idiots not being in the left lane going the speed limit or under.  The other 50% is if all the combined morons on the road can avoid hitting anything.

Here I thought it was based off the 85th percentile speed.


The MUTCD recommends that the speed limit should be within 5MPH of the 85th percentile. Thats what traffic engineers use.

However, citizen groups, politicians, police, etc... all think they know better and are sometimes able to lobby local/state agencies to change the speed limits based on emotional or incorrect reasoning.

Then you end up with a 25mph speed limit in an area that should be 40mph.
 
2013-03-12 05:32:57 PM  
Needs reposting, because good:

api.ning.com
 
2013-03-12 05:41:53 PM  
Cop needs a HERO tag.
 
2013-03-12 05:46:42 PM  

Nordschleife: Needs reposting, because good:


That car was funny for like 2 memes. Now it's just gay.
 
2013-03-12 05:49:44 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Nordschleife: Needs reposting, because good:

That car was funny for like 2 memes. Now it's just gay.


1/10

You routinely fail at trolling don't you?

I mean really, you're just bad at it...improve biatch.
 
2013-03-12 05:51:49 PM  

Girion47: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Nordschleife: Needs reposting, because good:

That car was funny for like 2 memes. Now it's just gay.

1/10

You routinely fail at trolling don't you?

I mean really, you're just bad at it...improve biatch.


Really, you still find pictures of that cat amusing? Ok.
 
2013-03-12 05:52:59 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Nordschleife: Needs reposting, because good:

That car was funny for like 2 memes. Now it's just gay.


You purposefully stop people from passing you in the left lane, and you cant tell the difference between a cat and a car.  You need to have your license revoked sir.
 
2013-03-12 05:53:12 PM  

Oldiron_79: StrandedInAZ: I so wish they would ticket for that here. It's worse when you're trying to get to work or home in rush-hour traffic and some blue haired snowbird is driving 45 in the left lane, completely oblivious to how badly he's farking up traffic. You can drive below the speed limit, but get the hell over so people can pass you. Why is that so hard?

THIS. In Germany on the Autobahn where they have no speed limit (outside of the cities) but strictly enforce the pass left drive right the highways are SAFER than our nanny speed limited highways.


Rechtsfahren!
 
2013-03-12 06:02:31 PM  
CSB TIME.

I remember when I still had my motorcycle I was riding in the middle of my side of the road (single lane each way) anyway, I'm doing about 40 and my turn is coming up in about 200 feet so I put my left signal on. Now bear in mind there is no where to turn left except for the approaching intersection. This Indian/hindi woman whose behind me in a champaign Toyota pulls along side me (again single lane in each direction) and starts inching closer and closer to me forcing me to move closer to the double yellow, honking her horn and making hand gestures.

We get to the stop sign where I was going to turn left anyway, and pull my bike in front of her car, jump off and go around her widow (which was down as it was summer) the string of things I said to her I couldn't repeat even to a priest.

She could barely speak English and I finally said "can you understand me?"

She nodded.

I said "in this farking country we have driving laws. This is a one farking lane road. You could have killed me. You ever do that to me again, I won't hesitate to slam on my brakes and let you hit me, this isn't Mumbai. Fark you"

She looked like she had seen a ghost.

I saw her several more times after that, she didn't ride anyone's ass after that (car or motorcycle)
 
2013-03-12 06:14:25 PM  

HoustonNick: I wish I could meet the Cop - I'd buy him a drink and a steak dinner.  Get in the farking right lane you slow poke a holes.


^^THIS x  million^^
 
2013-03-12 06:16:10 PM  
She was going that fast on 95?!?!?! Unpossible!!!
 
2013-03-12 06:22:13 PM  

Dougie AXP: CSB TIME.

I said "in this farking country we have driving laws. This is a one farking lane road. You could have killed me. You ever do that to me again, I won't hesitate to slam on my brakes and let you hit me, this isn't Mumbai. Fark you"

She looked like she had seen a ghost.

I saw her several more times after that, she didn't ride anyone's ass after that (car or motorcycle)


She moved to Alaska, bought a LandRover, and is up to her old tricks.  (met her last summer)
 
2013-03-12 06:31:23 PM  
Don't get me started on Indian drivers.  Ok you got me started...

CSB

I'm in the fast lane behind an Indian driver who is driving about 60 when the limit is 65.  Cars are slowly passing him on the right, but he stays in the far left lane.  I finally get past him and get in front of him. I start gradually slowing down in hopes that he'll move to the right.  This asshole stayed behind me until I was down to about 40 mph on the freeway, then he finally pulled to the right.

As soon as he pulled to the right, I sped up to the correct speed for the fast lane when the limit is 65mph...75mph.  I look in my rear view and see the asshole moved back into the fast lane at 60 mph.  WTF?  How do drivers like that get licensed?

/CSB
 
2013-03-12 06:33:23 PM  

Broktun: I graduated in 1986, and drivers ed was taught, and free.
A few years later it was taught in the school, but cost a nominal fee $60, I think.
Now it cost about $250-$300.


They charge for it now? No wonder nobody takes it!
 
2013-03-12 06:38:22 PM  

The Southern Dandy: WTF?  How do drivers like that get licensed?



When the driving test consists of driving one lap around a fenced in parking lot, without even one second of time on a public road or any time above 10MPH, there's no way to know what the driver will be like once they're set loose on the rest of the world.
 
2013-03-12 06:46:31 PM  

StrandedInAZ: Broktun: I graduated in 1986, and drivers ed was taught, and free.
A few years later it was taught in the school, but cost a nominal fee $60, I think.
Now it cost about $250-$300.

They charge for it now? No wonder nobody takes it!


Around here it's actually a little more, but you get that off the insurance (yearly), so taking and passing driver's ed is a good investment.
 
2013-03-12 06:52:11 PM  
I drive 40,000 miles a year in the DC metro area, and I can say with confidence... that I have NEVER seen any of you good-drivin' farkers on the roads here.
 
2013-03-12 07:02:35 PM  

the ha ha guy: The Southern Dandy: WTF?  How do drivers like that get licensed?


When the driving test consists of driving one lap around a fenced in parking lot, without even one second of time on a public road or any time above 10MPH, there's no way to know what the driver will be like once they're set loose on the rest of the world.


csb/

A thousand years ago, when I took my driving test, we were waiting at the DMV for the evaluator who was late with the previous test.  My instructor and I spot the car pull into the parking lot VERY slowly, and watch as it comes to the parking spot.  About a 20 point turn later, the car was in the spot. They both got out, went into the building to do some paperwork, a few minutes later the evaluator comes out, my instructor introduces us, and we get in the car.  We put our seat belts on, and he says 'if you can get me around the block, without turning any more of my hair gray, you're good'. when we got back to the parking lot he hopped out to start the paperwork before letting me park solo.
/csb
now there is graduated licensing.
 
2013-03-12 07:05:03 PM  
timujin:
While tailgating is dangerous, so is cruising in the left lane, as it forces faster traffic to pass on the right.

I don't think you know what that word means.
 
2013-03-12 07:07:33 PM  

Rhino_man: I drive 40,000 miles a year in the DC metro area, and I can say with confidence... that I have NEVER seen any of you good-drivin' farkers on the roads here.


I moved away.
 
2013-03-12 07:10:43 PM  

Intrepid00: skozlaw: She might win the case. Maryland does not appear to have any sort of meaningful keep right law.

Some of the counties do. Enjoy.


That's one of my peeves.

County and City cops should have no jurisdiction on Interstate roads, and city cops none on state roads for traffic infractions.

Interstate commerce shouldn't have to worry about funding some one horse town's mayoral mansion with speed traps, and etc.
 
2013-03-12 07:24:18 PM  
Girion47:


Worst drivers are in the US, by far.  They inhabit the left lane, going slow, will never get over, don't use turn signals, and time their driving to eliminate any gaps that may be used for passing.

Fixed that for the rest of the civilized world. American drivers suck.
 
2013-03-12 07:26:46 PM  

Kaenneth: timujin:
While tailgating is dangerous, so is cruising in the left lane, as it forces faster traffic to pass on the right.

I don't think you know what that word means.


It forces the direction of the passing, not the passing itself.  You can intentionally misunderstand what someone writes, but it just makes you look like a pendant or a moron.
 
2013-03-12 07:28:25 PM  
I used to commute from San Diego to Laguna for a couple of months on a job. The 5 between Ocean Side and Dana Point is filled with left lane campers. Most of the time you can go faster in the right lanes instead of the left lanes. And I'm not a massive speeder, 10 over is my limit.

\Also it's just common courtesy for slower traffic to stay right.
\\not so common anymore I guess
 
2013-03-12 07:35:25 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The idiot brigade is out in force, I see. News flash: the leftmost lane is not a "passing lane." There is no such thing as a "passing lane." That is an antiquated term from the early 20th century when most roads were two-lane and you'd have to pass on the left.

Nowadays, especially on multi-lane roadways, every lane is a driving lane. I always go the speed limit in the left lane, and I love it when people tailgate me and throw their hands up in the air and make all sorts of goofy gestures. Hit me, you're at fault. Or do what I do and leave for your destination on time.


So you make up your own  definitions, make up your own rules, and stuff them down everyone else's throats, telling yourself that EVERYONE else is wrong, and you are on a personal crusade to set them right.  I admire your talent: you have covert hostility down pat.
 
2013-03-12 07:37:06 PM  
The post about jurisdiction got me thinking....

If an interstate highway is run through a private citizen's land, who does that portion of the interstate highway belong to?  Is it federal property, or does it still belong to the citizen?  If it's federal property, does that same ruling hold true if an interstate highway is run through a municipality? Does the highway belong to the federal government or the municipality?  If there's a difference, why?

If interstate highway's are federal property, how do local authorities have jurisdiction over them?

Any GED Law degreed lawyers have an answer?
 
2013-03-12 07:40:47 PM  

timujin: Kaenneth:
I don't think you know what that word means.

It forces the direction of the passing, not the passing itself.  You can intentionally misunderstand what someone writes, but it just makes you look like a pendant or a moron.


I'm a pendant; what you got against pendants, huh?  We keep your fskin' girlfriend happy, eh.  You got somethin' against jewelry?  I bet you're one of those perpetually hateful people, ain't ya? Just can't stand to see somone happy.  Miserable bastid.
 
2013-03-12 07:47:34 PM  

J.Shelby: timujin: Kaenneth:
I don't think you know what that word means.

It forces the direction of the passing, not the passing itself.  You can intentionally misunderstand what someone writes, but it just makes you look like a pendant or a moron.

I'm a pendant; what you got against pendants, huh?  We keep your fskin' girlfriend happy, eh.  You got somethin' against jewelry?  I bet you're one of those perpetually hateful people, ain't ya? Just can't stand to see somone happy.  Miserable bastid.


Goddammit so much... Farking on cold medicine is always bad news.

Pedant, ferfuxake.
 
2013-03-12 07:48:55 PM  

Rhino_man: I drive 40,000 miles a year in the DC metro area, and I can say with confidence... that I have NEVER seen any of you good-drivin' farkers on the roads here.


I'm not an idiot. I use the metro whenever I'm in DC. You would have to be crazy to want to drive there.
 
2013-03-12 07:49:02 PM  

Kaenneth: Intrepid00: skozlaw: She might win the case. Maryland does not appear to have any sort of meaningful keep right law.

Some of the counties do. Enjoy.

That's one of my peeves.

County and City cops should have no jurisdiction on Interstate roads, and city cops none on state roads for traffic infractions.

Interstate commerce shouldn't have to worry about funding some one horse town's mayoral mansion with speed traps, and etc.


Well tell the state to keep their roads and troopers out of cities.  Jurisdiction is based on borders and sometimes that is grayed by police forces that combine jurisdictions.  We have different police departments talking about combing jurisdictions as a way to help each others budget issues, and I mean departments of different towns.  MI state troopers have helped Flint a lot lately with city enforcement and I appreciate their efforts.  I find your peeve to be ludicrous and if you don't want tickets there is a system to keep from getting them.  Take a hint from the signs posted.

/I don't care if it takes a meter maid, just get those idiots over one lane.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-12 07:51:31 PM  
The Southern Dandy

Interstate highways are normally owned by states and are legally the same as other state highways. In rare cases they might be owned by a city or a federal agency.

Which state laws apply on federally owned highways depends on details of the agreement between state and federal government. States may or may not retain jurisdiction. If they do not, state laws may apply anyway via the Assimilative Crimes Act, but would be enforced by federal law enforcement agncies. You can get a federal speeding ticket on some DC area parkways.
 
2013-03-12 08:00:12 PM  
This link deserved to have the Hero tag for the cop who wrote the ticket
 
2013-03-12 08:04:08 PM  

The Southern Dandy: The post about jurisdiction got me thinking....

If an interstate highway is run through a private citizen's land, who does that portion of the interstate highway belong to?  Is it federal property, or does it still belong to the citizen?  If it's federal property, does that same ruling hold true if an interstate highway is run through a municipality? Does the highway belong to the federal government or the municipality?  If there's a difference, why?

If interstate highway's are federal property, how do local authorities have jurisdiction over them?

Any GED Law degreed lawyers have an answer?


When they build roads, they buy the land off who ever owns it.  They may not like it, but they are paid to get over it.  The property covered by the road does belong to the state.  I don't think the federal government owns the interstate system anymore, but do give the states grants towards maintenance.  Anyone crossing the OH/MI border on I-75 can tell you they can see the difference really quickly between the states.  I think it is a myth that police can't leave jurisdiction, they do need permission from the jurisdiction they are going into before hand.  Jurisdiction lines can be really gray since they are decided on by judges and police chiefs.
 
2013-03-12 08:09:38 PM  
Thanks for the answers all you shiathouse fark lawyers.
 
2013-03-12 08:15:26 PM  

lack of warmth: When they build roads, they buy the land off who ever owns it.  They may not like it, but they are paid to get over it.  The property covered by the road does belong to the state.



Not always. My property borders a county and a state road, and I own to the center of both. The deed does list the easement and setback distances for each road, but the actual property line markers (railroad spikes driven into the roadbed) are between the yellow lines.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-03-12 08:20:49 PM  
I think it is a myth that police can't leave jurisdiction, they do need permission from the jurisdiction they are going into before hand.

Varies a lot from place to place, and the rules are based on custom as much as law.

In my state state police have jurisdiction statewide and municipal police have jurisdiction in whatever cities have granted them police power (which can be more than one). There are also special rules like jurisdiction of Newton police extends 500 feet into the town of Brookline.

In some states city police have jurisdiction in an entire county, or even statewide.

What is more generally true is only one or two agencies have "primary" jurisdiction over each highway. Other police forces are expected to enforce safety violations only, not routine traffic tickets. I passed an unmarked New York sheriff on an Interstate at a ticketable speed, but it wasn't his road so he didn't ticket me. If I had been going double the speed limit instead of 20 over he would have pulled me over. And then he would have had the hassle of going to a traffic court session he doesn't normally go to and explaining to the state troopers why he poached one of their fish.
 
2013-03-12 08:29:36 PM  

MadAzza: Girion47:


Worst drivers are in the US, by far.  They inhabit the left lane, going slow, will never get over, don't use turn signals, and time their driving to eliminate any gaps that may be used for passing.

Fixed that for the rest of the civilized world. American drivers suck.


you need to get out more
 
2013-03-12 08:42:16 PM  
Godscrack:

+1. This is the exact image that popped into my brain when I read TFA.
 
2013-03-12 08:43:41 PM  

CheekyMonkey: The ticketing officer is a bona-fide Hero.  The only more appropriate use for the term 'Hero' would be a cop ticketing a smoker for throwing a cigarette butt on the ground.


/csb

sitting at a traffic light with my brother driving, guy in the car in front of us tosses a butt out, my brother (bout 6'2/240lbs) gets out, picks up the still smoldering butt, and tosses it back thru the guys window (was a BMW 5 or 7 series IIRC) and the guy goes ape shiat trying to find and re-toss the butt, he finds it, looks to toss it, but my brother is still standing there, the dude looks at him, his hand staring to burn, and started to get out, my brother told him he probably should stay in the car, he did .. it was a smart move on his part

/csb
 
2013-03-12 08:57:47 PM  
Heh, I lived in Laurel for a good ten years or so.

She's lucky she just got a ticket. You should see what happens to people who stand in the left lane of Metro escalators.

Everyone drives 10mph over the posted limit. You don't even get any points on your license for going 9mph over. I've never gotten a ticket for anything less than 15mph over the limit (except in tourist towns like Ocean City when the cops are trying to meet their monthly quota or are just hoping to bust people for driving drunk/high). Actually, I think they just set the speed limits 10mph lower than the usual flow on purpose, so cops can more or less pull people over whenever they like, and not get accused of racial profiling or somesuch. That, and so your insurance doesn't have to cover as much when you wreck because you were probably "exceeding the limit"

Finally, if you see someone driving like an asshole, don't try to do anything to "correct" them, because then there are two assholes on the road. Just try your best to put some safe distance between you and the asshole, and maybe you'll be rewarded with a nice show when they do manage to run into another asshole.
 
2013-03-12 09:50:05 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The idiot brigade is out in force, I see. News flash: the leftmost lane is not a "passing lane." There is no such thing as a "passing lane." That is an antiquated term from the early 20th century when most roads were two-lane and you'd have to pass on the left.

Nowadays, especially on multi-lane roadways, every lane is a driving lane. I always go the speed limit in the left lane, and I love it when people tailgate me and throw their hands up in the air and make all sorts of goofy gestures. Hit me, you're at fault. Or do what I do and leave for your destination on time.


You are the idiot. Daily I see highway signs "keep right except to pass."
 
2013-03-12 09:57:49 PM  
This is standard Maryland shiat; dick around in the left lane and pass on the right.
 
2013-03-12 10:19:08 PM  

johnny_vegas: MadAzza: Girion47:


Worst drivers are in the US, by far.  They inhabit the left lane, going slow, will never get over, don't use turn signals, and time their driving to eliminate any gaps that may be used for passing.

Fixed that for the rest of the civilized world. American drivers suck.

you need to get out more


I've been all over Europe, Asia, Indonesia, Australia, and others, to many countries, all over the world.

Americans are the most self-centered people on the planet, and the way we drive is an example of this.
 
2013-03-12 10:21:24 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The idiot brigade is out in force, I see. News flash: the leftmost lane is not a "passing lane." There is no such thing as a "passing lane." That is an antiquated term from the early 20th century when most roads were two-lane and you'd have to pass on the left.

Nowadays, especially on multi-lane roadways, every lane is a driving lane. I always go the speed limit in the left lane, and I love it when people tailgate me and throw their hands up in the air and make all sorts of goofy gestures. Hit me, you're at fault. Or do what I do and leave for your destination on time.


Eventually pulling that shait in the passing lane, someone will hit you, and it will be there fault, and they won't care, (I'm sure I'm not the only one that gets one free accident on my insurance, never mind the uninsured), so, your car will be in the ditch and you may well need some hospital time. But you would still get to feel vastly, smugly, wrongly, superior, while you were in traction.
(also some time you might pull that in front of someone who will simply shot out a tire... or the driver...)
and the first thing in the fark thread about that story will be that grumpy cat jpg with GOOD.
The left lane is still the passing lane, given enough traffic, that doesn't always work out, but if the second lane is empty and you are in the left lane, you are not in the right lane. Period.
 
2013-03-12 11:52:30 PM  

Blame Hofmann: I assume there are some mouthbreathing, righteous, ca. 100-IQ retards


i893.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-13 12:15:48 AM  
Pull the fark over and stop parking in the PASSING LANE asshole!
Probably a demcrap.

images.sodahead.com
 
2013-03-13 12:24:00 AM  
65 is the upper limit, folks, not lower.  63 is therefore perfectly reasonable. Its within the range of accuracy of your typical speedometer.
To those complaining that the left lane is for passing I say, why would anybody be passing her? She was basically at the max allowable speed.


That out of the way, I have always wondered how successful it would be to argue in court that speed limits signs fail to establish the limits since they lack a tolerance.  Ideally a speed limit sign would say something like 55 +/- 5 mph.  Obviously nobody can drive right at 55 and if you can be ticketed for going too fast, or too slow, then you need to know what the tolerance is.  If the sign doesn't define it, how can you be expected to adhere to the law?
 
2013-03-13 12:28:23 AM  

Stone Meadow: I LOL at that caption because my wife says it perfectly captures my driving style.


Mine too, uncannily down to the vocabulary, phrasing, pace, tone, intensity, and style (and no, it's not my work).
 
2013-03-13 12:31:32 AM  

MadAzza: johnny_vegas: MadAzza: Girion47:


Worst drivers are in the US, by far.  They inhabit the left lane, going slow, will never get over, don't use turn signals, and time their driving to eliminate any gaps that may be used for passing.

Fixed that for the rest of the civilized world. American drivers suck.

you need to get out more

I've been all over Europe, Asia, Indonesia, Australia, and others, to many countries, all over the world.

Americans are the most self-centered people on the planet, and the way we drive is an example of this.


 you are just wrong here on all counts sorry, and I have been to a lot of countries on most continents also and have been regularly traveling for work and pleasure for 25 years, so you are full of shiat.

/nothing bad to say about Oz drivers though.
 
2013-03-13 12:38:48 AM  
By the way the broad has a good chance of getting off if she fights it in court.  A buddy of mine got a similar ticket back in high school.  52 in a 55.  He basically didn't move over quick enough for the cops liking when the cop came up behind him.  He went to court on it and the judge ended up chewing out the cop and dismissing the ticket.
 
2013-03-13 12:55:01 AM  
If the limit is 65, how are you supposed to pass someone driving 63?

vudutek: To all of those who sport the following bumper sticker:

"I may be slow, but I'm ahead of you"

That's only because it's illegal to run your sorry ass into a ditch.

/'98 Camry, another scratch ain't gonna bother me.


You would never do that, because you're an Internet Tough Guy. It might be funny though, watching your bottom lip quiver while you're cooling in a jail cell.
 
2013-03-13 03:31:57 AM  

Ima4nic8or: By the way the broad has a good chance of getting off if she fights it in court.  A buddy of mine got a similar ticket back in high school.  52 in a 55.  He basically didn't move over quick enough for the cops liking when the cop came up behind him.  He went to court on it and the judge ended up chewing out the cop and dismissing the ticket.


just stay out of the way of faster traffic, okay sport?
you worry about your own speed, and if you are not passing anyone, you have no business in the left/fast/passing lane.
 
2013-03-13 04:10:56 AM  

johnny_vegas: MadAzza: johnny_vegas: MadAzza: Girion47:


Worst drivers are in the US, by far.  They inhabit the left lane, going slow, will never get over, don't use turn signals, and time their driving to eliminate any gaps that may be used for passing.

Fixed that for the rest of the civilized world. American drivers suck.

you need to get out more

I've been all over Europe, Asia, Indonesia, Australia, and others, to many countries, all over the world.

Americans are the most self-centered people on the planet, and the way we drive is an example of this.

 you are just wrong here on all counts sorry, and I have been to a lot of countries on most continents also and have been regularly traveling for work and pleasure for 25 years, so you are full of shiat.


Oh, goodness. Well, since your feelings are hurt to the point where you've resorted to a baseless personal attack, thereby proving my point about self-centered Americans ... but never mind that. I guess I have to admit you're right. I can't argue with some stranger on the internet whose whole argument is that I'm "full of shiat." You're right, I'm so sorry. I see the error of my ways now. I retract everything I've ever experienced; it was all a lie.
 
2013-03-13 04:54:14 AM  
I don't mind driving in NYC, DC, LA, FL and anywhere else in the country except Maryland. They are horrible drivers and I rarely see the cops doing anything about it. This cop must be new or have transferred in from someplace else.
 
2013-03-13 08:42:40 AM  

ChildOfBhaal: timujin: .What does this case have to do with speeders?  Someone could pass this woman on the right by going the speed limit, as she was driving below it.

Granted, but let's be realistic.

scottydoesntknow: Sure, they don't "force" the people to change on the right, but they also don't leave them any other option.

No option except for the best, most safe one: Sucking it up and maintaining a safe stopping distance (which is at least a little bit less than the canonical car-length per 10 mph) while making your hopes and dreams for yourself, your car, and that particular lane of traffic crystal clear.  It's a tough balancing act, and it's not particularly emotionally satisfying.  But it is a third option (other than tailgating or passing on the right).   And, to the extent that passing on the right is dangerous (as many claimed above), it's the preferable option.


So you should pull into the right lane, but be careful to go no faster than the left-lane-blocker? And thus impede traffic behind you?

I'm not really sure where passing on the right is illegal. It's legal where I live and I don't really see why it's so dangerous. Is it because the LLB is likely to swerve into the right lane without looking?
 
2013-03-13 08:49:28 AM  

johnny_vegas: Stone Meadow: but I get incensed by lollygagging drivers who can't be bothered to go when the light turns green, left lane hogs, entering the freeway 10 mph slower than traffic, etc.

and those MF'ers (who don't drive a truck) that back into parking spaces.


Why does this bother you?

And why do trucks get a pass in your opinion?
 
2013-03-13 09:48:08 AM  
My method for these asshats is to turn on my brights and off-road lights, coupled with a liberal application of the horn until they get over. Go ahead and brake check me, I'm sure my heavy steel bumper will be no match for your plastic/fiberglass one.
 
2013-03-13 10:16:06 AM  

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: I would assume that the radar has a +/-2 mph margin of error. So maybe she was driving right at the speed limit.


It's more than that, most guns are only good within 10%. They also pick up anything in the cone, and most guns are terrible with large objects, reflectivity and cosign errors while measuring doppler shift and range.

The only real time they are truly accurate is if they are measuring the only car on a deserted road. In traffic, worthless.
 
2013-03-13 10:49:10 AM  

Happy Hours: johnny_vegas: Stone Meadow: but I get incensed by lollygagging drivers who can't be bothered to go when the light turns green, left lane hogs, entering the freeway 10 mph slower than traffic, etc.

and those MF'ers (who don't drive a truck) that back into parking spaces.

Why does this bother you?

And why do trucks get a pass in your opinion?


It is a fairly illogical pet peeve.  It seems (especially in Hawaii) everyone decides to back into parking spaces in the mall, etc...and usually take a several minutes (slight exaggeration) to get into the space.
 
2013-03-13 10:54:20 AM  

MadAzza: johnny_vegas: MadAzza: johnny_vegas: MadAzza: Girion47:


Worst drivers are in the US, by far.  They inhabit the left lane, going slow, will never get over, don't use turn signals, and time their driving to eliminate any gaps that may be used for passing.

Fixed that for the rest of the civilized world. American drivers suck.

you need to get out more

I've been all over Europe, Asia, Indonesia, Australia, and others, to many countries, all over the world.

Americans are the most self-centered people on the planet, and the way we drive is an example of this.

 you are just wrong here on all counts sorry, and I have been to a lot of countries on most continents also and have been regularly traveling for work and pleasure for 25 years, so you are full of shiat.

Oh, goodness. Well, since your feelings are hurt to the point where you've resorted to a baseless personal attack, thereby proving my point about self-centered Americans ... but never mind that. I guess I have to admit you're right. I can't argue with some stranger on the internet whose whole argument is that I'm "full of shiat." You're right, I'm so sorry. I see the error of my ways now. I retract everything I've ever experienced; it was all a lie.


Yeah it was a personal attack, so that was wrong though not baseless as you were so butthurt that you decided to cropdust into a thread and spew your bigotry.  An was a personal attack any worse (or less informed) than your sweeping generalization?  i think not.  I know it's awfully in vogue to bemoan everything about the USA, you must feel very comforted that you are so miserable.
 
2013-03-13 11:28:38 AM  
MadAzza: Girion47:


Worst drivers are in the US, by far.  They inhabit the left lane, going slow, will never get over, don't use turn signals, and time their driving to eliminate any gaps that may be used for passing.

Fixed that for the rest of the civilized world. American drivers suck.

you need to get out more


I've been all over Europe, Asia, Indonesia, Australia, and others, to many countries, all over the world.

Americans are the most self-centered people on the planet, and the way we drive is an example of this.


No, you haven't. In fact, you're making this up. Because this is total bullshiat. Or else you're a terrible driver, and you prefer general road anarchy.
 
2013-03-13 11:37:21 AM  

johnny_vegas: Happy Hours: johnny_vegas: Stone Meadow: but I get incensed by lollygagging drivers who can't be bothered to go when the light turns green, left lane hogs, entering the freeway 10 mph slower than traffic, etc.

and those MF'ers (who don't drive a truck) that back into parking spaces.

Why does this bother you?

And why do trucks get a pass in your opinion?

It is a fairly illogical pet peeve.  It seems (especially in Hawaii) everyone decides to back into parking spaces in the mall, etc...and usually take a several minutes (slight exaggeration) to get into the space.


Okay, but it seems like most trucks would be even worse at it (unless you're mean commercial trucks backing up to loading docks),

/I usually only back into my garage because I'd rather do that than back out into the alley where there could be cars, kids or pets that are hard to see.
 
2013-03-13 12:16:31 PM  
I shall post my rant again.  If I'm behind you and you're going 20 under the speed limit and I start passing you on the left, and you realize you're going too slow and then go 10 over the speed limit to get far enough ahead for me to get behind you again, then don't go 20 under the speed limit right after I get back behind you.
 
2013-03-13 12:25:18 PM  
As others have said, she didn't get a ticket for going too slow, as the article tries to indicate, but that she didn't move over.  More importantly she didn't move over for a POLICE CAR.  I see people camping the left lane all the time but it blows my mind when they do it when a cop is obviously trying to get by them.  Cop could make the case that they aren't paying attention to their surroundings, failed to yield (maybe not if they don't have their lights on) and failing to move to the right when overtaken.  Even if you feel somehow justified in camping the left lane, why do it in front of a cop?  And then complain that you were cited for it?
 
2013-03-13 01:02:28 PM  

scottydoesntknow: StrandedInAZ: I so wish they would ticket for that here. It's worse when you're trying to get to work or home in rush-hour traffic and some blue haired snowbird is driving 45 in the left lane, completely oblivious to how badly he's farking up traffic. You can drive below the speed limit, but get the hell over so people can pass you. Why is that so hard?

Because 9 times out of 10 the people who drive that slow are chicken shiats who don't want to be on the road in the first place. By moving to the far left lane they only have to deal with drivers on one side of them instead of two. Even the right lane has to deal with people entering/exiting.

They just don't want the headaches of actually paying attention to their surroundings.


This. That's the same reason why they slowly lose speed as they drift away, until they snap back to attention and see that someone's passing them and speed up to match, or they're passing someone else and slow down to match. They're desperately afraid of sticking out.

I wonder how many of these drivers have warrants, no license, etc.
 
2013-03-13 01:07:05 PM  

Mikey1969: ZAZ: While she was in the wrong morally, she was probably not in the wrong legally. In Maryland you can stay in the left lane as long as you are within 10 mph of the speed limit.  Most states require drivers to keep right when moving slower than the normal speed of traffic.

In Utah you can get a ticket for not getting over if someone is approaching you, regardless of your speed. If you're doing 20 mph over the speed limit and a car still overtakes you, you have to move over, otherwise you can get ticketed. The other driver can get ticketed also, of course, but you have to get out of that lane if you are impeding traffic at all. The rest of the time, you can travel that lane to your heart's content.


In other words, "You don't have the right to be an asshole just because someone else is a douche. The cops are better being one anyway, so lay off." I like it.
 
2013-03-13 01:26:07 PM  

The Southern Dandy: The post about jurisdiction got me thinking....

If an interstate highway is run through a private citizen's land, who does that portion of the interstate highway belong to?  Is it federal property, or does it still belong to the citizen?  If it's federal property, does that same ruling hold true if an interstate highway is run through a municipality? Does the highway belong to the federal government or the municipality?  If there's a difference, why?

If interstate highway's are federal property, how do local authorities have jurisdiction over them?

Any GED Law degreed lawyers have an answer?


Neither. The state owns all interstate highways except for private toll roads. The land for the road is bought by the state and chopped off from the parcel, which is why there are so many problems with the cost of buying land and eminent domain. When roads are abandoned they're sometimes sold back if anyone wants the land.

However, if you want to look at state highways and US highways, you have a vastly different situation. The state, county, or city/township can "own" and maintain the road, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were private ownership of segments as well. It's a mess and what's legal varies from place to place.
 
2013-03-13 02:08:54 PM  

foxyshadis: The Southern Dandy: The post about jurisdiction got me thinking....

If an interstate highway is run through a private citizen's land, who does that portion of the interstate highway belong to?  Is it federal property, or does it still belong to the citizen?  If it's federal property, does that same ruling hold true if an interstate highway is run through a municipality? Does the highway belong to the federal government or the municipality?  If there's a difference, why?

If interstate highway's are federal property, how do local authorities have jurisdiction over them?

Any GED Law degreed lawyers have an answer?

Neither. The state owns all interstate highways except for private toll roads. The land for the road is bought by the state and chopped off from the parcel, which is why there are so many problems with the cost of buying land and eminent domain. When roads are abandoned they're sometimes sold back if anyone wants the land.

However, if you want to look at state highways and US highways, you have a vastly different situation. The state, county, or city/township can "own" and maintain the road, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were private ownership of segments as well. It's a mess and what's legal varies from place to place.


The goodness of fark.  In spite of myself I continually learn something.

/yes, trust but verify and all
 
2013-03-13 02:25:53 PM  
RCW 46.61.100  Keep right except when passing, etc....

     (2) Upon all roadways having two or more lanes for traffic moving in the same direction, all vehicles shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, except (a) when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, (b) when traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow, (c) when moving left to allow traffic to merge, or (d) when preparing for a left turn at an intersection, exit, or into a private road or driveway when such left turn is legally permitted. On any such roadway, a vehicle or combination over ten thousand pounds shall be driven only in the right-hand lane except under the conditions enumerated in (a) through (d) of this subsection.

     (3) No vehicle towing a trailer or no vehicle or combination over ten thousand pounds may be driven in the left-hand lane of a limited access roadway having three or more lanes for traffic moving in one direction except when preparing for a left turn at an intersection, exit, or into a private road or driveway when a left turn is legally permitted. This subsection does not apply to a vehicle using a high occupancy vehicle lane. A high occupancy vehicle lane is not considered the left-hand lane of a roadway. The department of transportation, in consultation with the Washington state patrol, shall adopt rules specifying (a) those circumstances where it is permissible for other vehicles to use the left lane in case of emergency or to facilitate the orderly flow of traffic, and (b) those segments of limited access roadway to be exempt from this subsection due to the operational characteristics of the roadway.

     (4) It is a traffic infraction to drive continuously in the left lane of a multilane roadway when it impedes the flow of other traffic.
 
2013-03-13 03:15:21 PM  

MadAzza: I've been all over Europe, Asia, Indonesia, Australia, and others, to many countries, all over the world.

Americans are the most self-centered people on the planet, and the way we drive is an example of this


You are either lying about being there or lying about the US.
 
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