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(Chicago Trib)   Let's see. I just made a layup, a free throw, and a half-court shot, all within 24 seconds... Still, I can't shake this feeling that I've forgotten something   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 49
    More: Sad, lay up, free throws, Alex Permann, Wichita State, Missouri Valley Conference  
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2013-03-12 10:39:40 AM
Half court is a three point shot, so it should have covered both.
 
2013-03-12 10:54:04 AM

EvilEgg: Half court is a three point shot, so it should have covered both.


Heh, we've had threads about this before. Prizes like this are underwritten by insurance companies and everything.. EVERYTHING has to be done to the letter or no payout.
 
2013-03-12 10:54:54 AM
Kinda lame they made him chase his own rebounds.  Shouldn't do that when he's on the clock.
 
2013-03-12 11:23:12 AM
Tournament organizers decided to be generous though, and gave Permann tickets for life to the Missouri Valley Conference tournament and a three-day hotel stay for next year's event.

Pretty good runner-up prize.
 
2013-03-12 11:36:01 AM
Were the steps dictated? You'd wanna do it from outside in, wouldn't you?

Reminds me of the only 30 seconds of a Will Ferrell movie I've seen, that bit in Semi-Pro where the guy actually sinks a basket and get presented with a "check that says ten thousand dollars".
 
2013-03-12 11:40:59 AM

The Bestest: EvilEgg: Half court is a three point shot, so it should have covered both.

Heh, we've had threads about this before. Prizes like this are underwritten by insurance companies and everything.. EVERYTHING has to be done to the letter or no payout.


It pisses me off that insurance companies are such dicks about this. Regardless, the tournament should have paid him, especially if he was given conflicting info.

In the end, hiring a lawyer would probably cost him half his prize money and a bunch of time and after taxes and everything, the tickets from a risk standpoint would probably have been close to an even deal.

Still, I'm kind of getting tired of insurance companies being such complete d*cks about this stuff.
 
2013-03-12 11:41:08 AM

Honest Bender: Tournament organizers decided to be generous though, and gave Permann tickets for life to the Missouri Valley Conference tournament and a three-day hotel stay for next year's event.

Pretty good runner-up prize.


Hell yeah. Arch Madness is usually one of the better conference tourneys. And sure he doesn't get the $50K (and subsequent taxes associated) but he does have an opportunity to StubHub those tix every year if he wants. I mean, assuming they aren't exclusively for him. A four-day event like that, he could pocket a fair amount of money that way every March.
 
2013-03-12 11:42:58 AM

wildcardjack: Were the steps dictated? You'd wanna do it from outside in, wouldn't you?

Reminds me of the only 30 seconds of a Will Ferrell movie I've seen, that bit in Semi-Pro where the guy actually sinks a basket and get presented with a "check that says ten thousand dollars".


If you're chasing your own rebounds, you sure as hell want to go inside-out.

Plus it feels better to at least have made a few before you just start taking half-court shots. Not sure if there are escalating prizes, but that may also be a factor.
 
2013-03-12 11:46:27 AM
Everyone in the stands was yelling, "Three! Three! Three!" He should have listened to them.
 
2013-03-12 11:59:17 AM

Honest Bender: Tournament organizers decided to be generous though, and gave Permann tickets for life to the Missouri Valley Conference tournament and a three-day hotel stay for next year's event.

Pretty good runner-up prize.


That's actually pretty classy. This is the one case where really the mess-up was on the participant and yet they through in a prize for feeling bad.
 
2013-03-12 12:03:56 PM
At least he has a good attitude about it. He knows he didn't follow the rules and is happy with the consolation prize. Most people would be getting all litigious about it and say they were screwed over.
 
2013-03-12 12:07:01 PM

bdub77: The Bestest: EvilEgg: Half court is a three point shot, so it should have covered both.

Heh, we've had threads about this before. Prizes like this are underwritten by insurance companies and everything.. EVERYTHING has to be done to the letter or no payout.

It pisses me off that insurance companies are such dicks about this. Regardless, the tournament should have paid him, especially if he was given conflicting info.

In the end, hiring a lawyer would probably cost him half his prize money and a bunch of time and after taxes and everything, the tickets from a risk standpoint would probably have been close to an even deal.

Still, I'm kind of getting tired of insurance companies being such complete d*cks about this stuff.


This isn't like some technicality like his foot was on the line.  He didn't take 1 of the shots at all.
 
2013-03-12 12:11:55 PM
Even if you counted the half-court shot as the 3-pointer, he needed to make four shots and he only made three.  I imagine if he made a second half-court shot he'd have a claim.
 
2013-03-12 12:12:35 PM
The blaming of the insurance companies is a red herring every time.  The entity that is holding the event is the one responsible for the payout.  The insurance policy they take out is just to cover their liability.  The group holding the event is the one reneging on their promise, not the insurance company.  Especially if they told the guy the wrong thing.  Or if they placed him in the wrong spot, etc.
 
2013-03-12 12:18:55 PM

bdub77: The Bestest: EvilEgg: Half court is a three point shot, so it should have covered both.

Heh, we've had threads about this before. Prizes like this are underwritten by insurance companies and everything.. EVERYTHING has to be done to the letter or no payout.

It pisses me off that insurance companies are such dicks about this. Regardless, the tournament should have paid him, especially if he was given conflicting info.

In the end, hiring a lawyer would probably cost him half his prize money and a bunch of time and after taxes and everything, the tickets from a risk standpoint would probably have been close to an even deal.

Still, I'm kind of getting tired of insurance companies being such complete d*cks about this stuff.


He didn't do what was asked.  I'm kind of getting tired of people expecting to get rewarded when they don't do what is asked
 
2013-03-12 12:19:33 PM

bdub77: It pisses me off that insurance companies are such dicks about this. Regardless, the tournament should have paid him, especially if he was given conflicting info.

In the end, hiring a lawyer would probably cost him half his prize money and a bunch of time and after taxes and everything, the tickets from a risk standpoint would probably have been close to an even deal.

Still, I'm kind of getting tired of insurance companies being such complete d*cks about this stuff.


If you had 50 grand in hand, and you set down specific criteria that had to be met for it to be handed to some random guy, I'm pretty sure you'd be shouting from the hilltops people demanded you give it to him when he didn't meet the criteria of the contest either.
 
2013-03-12 12:31:16 PM
No lawsuit? I will not stand for this!
 
2013-03-12 12:34:27 PM
Snake Plisken seen looking on
 
2013-03-12 12:35:39 PM
Cuervo Jones seen grabbing for his gun
 
2013-03-12 12:37:02 PM

EvilEgg: Half court is a three point shot, so it should have covered both.


I was thinking the same thing...

Hang On Voltaire: He didn't do what was asked.  I'm kind of getting tired of people expecting to get rewarded when they don't do what is asked


He did though. He made a 3-point shot from the half court line. he was just efficient and combined the two.
 
2013-03-12 12:39:30 PM
I wonder if Russell Westbrook won a free breakfast at a Bob Evans or something for his errant, "I can totally draw a foul here, right?" half-court attempt
 
2013-03-12 12:52:33 PM
I too am pleasantly surprised that not only did the MVC tourney organizers come up with a consolation prize, but that the contestant was happy to get it rather than throwing a lawyer-induced tantrum.  Good on both of them.
 
2013-03-12 01:02:23 PM

Honest Bender: Tournament organizers decided to be generous though, and gave Permann tickets for life to the Missouri Valley Conference tournament and a three-day hotel stay for next year's event.

Pretty good runner-up prize.


Except that he's a Creighton fan.
 
2013-03-12 01:03:08 PM

Killer Cars: I wonder if Russell Westbrook won a free breakfast at a Bob Evans or something for his errant, "I can totally draw a foul here, right?" half-court attempt


OK, that was ridiculous--what really sealed that was the Spurs' player's attempt to draw a charge off it!
 
2013-03-12 01:12:33 PM
I think he's lucky he got anything. Far as I'm concerned, he just straight-up lost.
 
2013-03-12 01:14:42 PM

The Third Man: OK, that was ridiculous--what really sealed that was the Spurs' player's attempt to draw a charge off it!


That entire sequence was something I'd maybe expect in a Bobcats v Wizards game, not between the two best teams in the Western Conference. Good grief.
 
2013-03-12 01:15:08 PM
Eh. He screwed up. And a 3-pointer is no gimme, not like he forgot the layup. I'm skeptical they actually told him the wrong thing too... it's easy to claim he was instructed wrong after the fact.
 
2013-03-12 01:19:07 PM

KingKauff: Snake Plisken seen looking on


I thought he was dead.
 
2013-03-12 01:23:55 PM

EvilEgg: Half court is a three point shot, so it should have covered both.


Came for the same.
 
2013-03-12 01:27:56 PM
What he forgot was that hese trick shot contests never pay out. Ever.
 
2013-03-12 01:30:30 PM
with a 24 second clock, you basically have to hit each shot on the first attempt.  Even then, you really have to hustle to get the half court shot off before the time expires.
 
2013-03-12 01:36:58 PM
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2013-03-12 02:00:43 PM
It's a college game; dude should at least get 35 seconds.
 
2013-03-12 02:06:18 PM

bdub77: It pisses me off that insurance companies are such dicks about this.


You should see how they deny their customers' claims.
 
2013-03-12 02:18:23 PM

EyeballKid: bdub77: It pisses me off that insurance companies are such dicks about this.

You should see how they deny their customers' claims.


You should start your own insurance company so that you can give 50k to people who don't legitimately win the prize...  I'm sure you'll feel better about the whole thing.
 
2013-03-12 02:20:03 PM
That was meant for bdub77.........
 
2013-03-12 02:21:52 PM
What they asked him to do is pretty close to impossible. It would be one thing if you had a rack at each station but like someone else said you have to hit at least the half court and the three pointer on your first attempt.
 
2013-03-12 02:34:41 PM
Mikey1969:

He did though. He made a 3-point shot from the half court line. he was just efficient and combined the two.

They specifically asked for and half court shot and three point shot.
 
2013-03-12 02:46:22 PM

Hang On Voltaire: Mikey1969:

He did though. He made a 3-point shot from the half court line. he was just efficient and combined the two.

They specifically asked for and half court shot and three point shot.


Lighten up, Frances.
 
2013-03-12 02:53:04 PM

bdub77: The Bestest: EvilEgg: Half court is a three point shot, so it should have covered both.

Heh, we've had threads about this before. Prizes like this are underwritten by insurance companies and everything.. EVERYTHING has to be done to the letter or no payout.

It pisses me off that insurance companies are such dicks about this. Regardless, the tournament should have paid him, especially if he was given conflicting info.

In the end, hiring a lawyer would probably cost him half his prize money and a bunch of time and after taxes and everything, the tickets from a risk standpoint would probably have been close to an even deal.

Still, I'm kind of getting tired of insurance companies being such complete d*cks about this stuff.


Dude, there's plenty of reasons to hate insurance companies, this isn't one of them. And no lawyer would take his case. Stop whining.

The guy admitted it, he didn't follow the rules. It was cool that they gave him tourney tickets for life, though.
 
2013-03-12 02:56:18 PM

tnpir: I too am pleasantly surprised that not only did the MVC tourney organizers come up with a consolation prize, but that the contestant was happy to get it rather than throwing a lawyer-induced tantrum.  Good on both of them.


This.  Tickets for life isn't a bad deal at all.
 
2013-03-12 03:25:52 PM

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So much win.
 
2013-03-12 03:43:21 PM

tnpir: I too am pleasantly surprised that not only did the MVC tourney organizers come up with a consolation prize, but that the contestant was happy to get it rather than throwing a lawyer-induced tantrum.  Good on both of them.


I kind of agree, but as many people have posted. It's not like he barely stepped over the line, or did something slightly wrong. He quite literally only made 3 shots instead of 4. Admittedly, part of the problem seems to be the information he got. But, It seems somewhat unlikely he actually would have won if he had to shoot the 3 point shot also.
 
2013-03-12 04:43:50 PM

JohnHall: tnpir: I too am pleasantly surprised that not only did the MVC tourney organizers come up with a consolation prize, but that the contestant was happy to get it rather than throwing a lawyer-induced tantrum.  Good on both of them.

I kind of agree, but as many people have posted. It's not like he barely stepped over the line, or did something slightly wrong. He quite literally only made 3 shots instead of 4. Admittedly, part of the problem seems to be the information he got. But, It seems somewhat unlikely he actually would have won if he had to shoot the 3 point shot also.


Given he had 2 seconds left as the ball went through the hoop, it seems a teenie bit unlikely he even would have gotten a 3 point attempt off.
 
2013-03-12 05:15:50 PM
Me, I would've spent the whole 24 seconds just trying to get the lay-up..
 
2013-03-12 05:23:31 PM

JohnHall: tnpir: I too am pleasantly surprised that not only did the MVC tourney organizers come up with a consolation prize, but that the contestant was happy to get it rather than throwing a lawyer-induced tantrum.  Good on both of them.

I kind of agree, but as many people have posted. It's not like he barely stepped over the line, or did something slightly wrong. He quite literally only made 3 shots instead of 4. Admittedly, part of the problem seems to be the information he got. But, It seems somewhat unlikely he actually would have won if he had to shoot the 3 point shot also.


You may be right, but the issue seems to be a dispute as to whether he was given appropriate instructions for what was required. In either case, that both sides came to an understanding that both are happy with, without a costly legal dispute, is refreshing.
 
2013-03-12 05:45:04 PM
He should have asked for a clear explanation of the exact conditions first.  The dicks are the ones who didn't give clear instruction.
 
2013-03-12 06:10:39 PM
years ago there was a live contest during a nfl playoff game at halftime. a football throwing machine was set up to arc a punt like lob of the football to the contestant 30 yards downfield. the half time announcer said the contestant was flown in a day or 2 earlier and giving some practice time catching the ball. when the machine was hurriedly brought out at halftime the sponsor [snickers candy bar]realized they had the machine placed over the nfl logo or the temp snickers logo they placed on the 40 yard line. i can't quite remember. anyway, you could see someone running up to the female constantant and by this person's body launguage they were trying to tell the contestant she needs to move 10 yards because the machine isn't placed where it was during her practiced. she shook her head no several times and a few seconds later the balls were launched. i think she had to catch 5 out of 5 to win a million. each ball fell short exactly the 10 yards the machine was moved back and she caught none. the film crew started towards her to do a quick interview and she was already dropping fbombs and the network cut away.
 
2013-03-12 09:52:42 PM

lennavan: JohnHall: tnpir: I too am pleasantly surprised that not only did the MVC tourney organizers come up with a consolation prize, but that the contestant was happy to get it rather than throwing a lawyer-induced tantrum.  Good on both of them.

I kind of agree, but as many people have posted. It's not like he barely stepped over the line, or did something slightly wrong. He quite literally only made 3 shots instead of 4. Admittedly, part of the problem seems to be the information he got. But, It seems somewhat unlikely he actually would have won if he had to shoot the 3 point shot also.

Given he had 2 seconds left as the ball went through the hoop, it seems a teenie bit unlikely he even would have gotten a 3 point attempt off.


24 seconds to make a layup, FT, 3, and a half-court shot? With getting your own rebounds? FFS, man, the payout needs to be higher than that for that impossible sh*t. You have to make all of them, run to the right distance, and basically hit the back of the rim just right or get enough of the net that the ball bounces back in your direction. Especially if you're fat.
 
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