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(Some Hee-Haw)   Cedar Rapids, Iowa hosting a convention specifically for single farmers who are looking a partner that shares a love of corn and overalls   (radioiowa.com) divider line 127
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2013-03-12 11:03:15 AM  
And the hotel bar next door will be suspiciously full of sheep with high heels and lipstick.
 
2013-03-12 11:04:39 AM  
Maybe they need to look into ordering up some of them Eastern European women. I've heard they can pull a plow like nobody's business.
 
2013-03-12 11:13:02 AM  

Sybarite: Maybe they need to look into ordering up some of them Eastern European women. I've heard they can pull a plow like nobody's business.


I saw it on Borat, so it must be true.
 
2013-03-12 11:14:47 AM  
I'm looking forward to the "Faces of Meth" mugshot roundup from Cedar Rapids following the convention.
 
2013-03-12 11:17:04 AM  
thorgolucky.com

I'm on my way!
 
2013-03-12 11:17:20 AM  
Cedar Rapids, Iowa hosting a convention specifically for single farmers who are looking a partner that shares a love of corn and overalls

...and likes to squeal like a pig.
 
2013-03-12 11:17:43 AM  
Christian Mingles. Let God pick out the Significant Other that you will regret for the rest of your miserable life.
OR:
You could hook up with some yokel at the farm show only to find out he's been cheating on you with a cow and a pig, and a chicken. And Iowans lerve farkin them chickens.
 
2013-03-12 11:18:07 AM  
Here's part of the sing-a-long. Just follow the bouncing cob, folks.

Mississippi River
Davenport
Corn, corn, corn, corn
Corn, corn, corn
"whats that smell?"
Corn, corn, corn
Iowa City
Corn, corn, corn, corn
"Look at tree"
Corn, corn, corn, Des Moines
Corn, corn, corn, corn, corn
"Theres that smell again"
Corn, corn, corn
Council Bluffs, Missouri River
 
2013-03-12 11:21:52 AM  
Ah, the farkistan contemp for those that feed them.

Here is a little counterbalance
 
2013-03-12 11:22:24 AM  

show me: And the hotel bar next door will be suspiciously full of sheep with high heels and lipstick.


Sarah Palin supports?
 
2013-03-12 11:23:10 AM  
The headline. She is no good.
 
2013-03-12 11:24:23 AM  

Evil Mackerel: show me: And the hotel bar next door will be suspiciously full of sheep with high heels and lipstick.

Sarah Palin supports?


Only if Palin is in support of sheep prostitution, which I doubt.
 
2013-03-12 11:24:26 AM  
Are they looking for someone to open as the furrow to the plow?
 
2013-03-12 11:25:01 AM  
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2013-03-12 11:26:02 AM  
I think I'll ring up the organizer and see if I can rent a table in artists alley and sell meth.
 
2013-03-12 11:27:22 AM  
Now I aint sayin they're all gold diggers, but
 
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2013-03-12 11:29:21 AM  
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2013-03-12 11:29:38 AM  
 
2013-03-12 11:37:45 AM  
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2013-03-12 11:40:56 AM  

gerbilpox: Cedar Rapids, Iowa hosting a convention specifically for single farmers who are looking a partner that shares a love of corn and overalls

...and likes to squeal like a pig.


cornhole
 
2013-03-12 11:44:38 AM  
My first thoughts were of the Norwegian Bachelor Farmers of Prarie Home Companion and maybe a Powdermilk Biscuits booth.

/listens to too much NPR
 
2013-03-12 11:49:25 AM  
There is a website for this farmersonly dot com. they have advertisements on the tv

you don't have to be lonely with farmers only dot com
 
2013-03-12 11:50:12 AM  

Unobtanium: My first thoughts were of the Norwegian Bachelor Farmers of Prarie Home Companion and maybe a Powdermilk Biscuits booth.

/listens to too much NPR


Nothing is wrong with listening to NPR. The problem lies with listening to PHC.
 
2013-03-12 11:52:58 AM  

HeadLever: Ah, the farkistan contemp for those that feed them.

Here is a little counterbalance


"And God and the Bible and Murica and as such like as..."
 
2013-03-12 11:53:00 AM  

angry_scientist: Now I aint sayin they're all gold diggers, but


OK - I hate to weigh in here but...

My live in and I raise beef cattle and most of the money we make basically goes back into the farm.  It does give us some cushion financially with our full time jobs but we work so much that it is like a second full time job.  Any woman that goes to this thinking that she is going to find a sugar daddy is insane since she will be expected to work on the farm too.  I don't mind it most of the time but it is a physical and dirty job that is never over...night, Christmas, etc.  Stuff has to be fed, babies are being born, fences fall down and it never happens at a time when it is convenient.  When it is 100 degrees and you have no grass because of the drought and cows are breaking down fences and escaping you really begin to question if it is all worth the trouble.
 
2013-03-12 11:54:39 AM  

show me: The problem lies with listening to PHC.


Sounds like somebody needs the natural mellowing agents of ketchup.
 
2013-03-12 11:57:02 AM  
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2013-03-12 12:01:10 PM  
"...who are looking a partner..."

Is that how they speak where you live, Subby?
 
2013-03-12 12:04:15 PM  

Wild Eyed and Wicked: OK - I hate to weigh in here but...


Nah, they are all sheep screwing, methhead, hillbilly rednecks that are on welfare.  At least that is what 90% of those on Fark really think.

Bigotry at its finest.
 
2013-03-12 12:05:22 PM  
I wish these could male a come back for everyday wear, for people other than farmer types.
They are just so comfortable, versitale, and they have lots of handy pockets.

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2013-03-12 12:07:03 PM  

puppypants: There is a website for this farmersonly dot com. they have advertisements on the tv

you don't have to be lonely with farmers only dot com


So, if you're not a farmer, but just have a penchant for barns and weird animal sex, you're not welcome there?

/noted
 
2013-03-12 12:07:15 PM  

show me: And the hotel bar next door will be suspiciously full of sheep with high heels and lipstick.


Please don't confuse Iowa with New Zealand
 
2013-03-12 12:07:32 PM  

HeadLever: Nah, they are all sheep screwing, methhead, hillbilly rednecks that are on welfare. At least that is what 90% of those on Fark really think.


those are all blatant falsehoods except for the welfare part.

farms are bigger welfare recipients than blah people in the city.
 
2013-03-12 12:07:49 PM  
I grew up in Cedar Rapids and I've seen quite a few farmers in my time...


...and I got nothin'

/CR is more urban than you probably think
//Still has its share of hicks though
 
2013-03-12 12:15:13 PM  

wedun: those are all blatant falsehoods except for the welfare part.


Even that is sketchy at best.  The region where I am from about 75% of all farmers and ranchers do not collect subsidy payments.

Just another talking point used by the bigoted elite.
 
2013-03-12 12:16:34 PM  

Wild Eyed and Wicked: OK - I hate to weigh in here but...


That sounds about right. In my small area there are multi-generational farmers, where even after the head of family divvies things up among the kids (each with their own full time jobs btw) they can still live the good life, multiple vacations, new buildings, build houses, etc. They do work very hard, but to say the majority of farmers around me are 'advantaged' is the understatement of the decade.
 
2013-03-12 12:20:25 PM  

HeadLever: wedun: those are all blatant falsehoods except for the welfare part.

Even that is sketchy at best.  The region where I am from about 75% of all farmers and ranchers do not collect subsidy payments.

Just another talking point used by the bigoted elite.


I need to get me some of that farm welfare money!!!

Seriously, except for a few people who are paid set aside monies, I do not know anyone who get subsidies.  Even after the drought, it was impossible to get assistance for hay and such.  I would have appreciated some help for the masive quantities of hay we have had to buy...
 
2013-03-12 12:20:49 PM  
Anyone who has seen the Come On Eileen video knows that overalls CAN be sexy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc-P8oDuS0Q

(Sorry, could not find HQ version)
 
2013-03-12 12:20:57 PM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RvyFFjP7RE

I just saw this ad a couple days ago and I thought it was some wanna be viral or something.  It's a real thing.
 
2013-03-12 12:22:43 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Here's part of the sing-a-long. Just follow the bouncing cob, folks.

Mississippi River
Davenport
Corn, corn, corn, corn
Corn, corn, corn
"whats that smell?"
Corn, corn, corn
Iowa City
Corn, corn, corn, corn
"Look at tree"
Corn, corn, corn, Des Moines
Corn, corn, corn, corn, corn
"Theres that smell again"
Corn, corn, corn
Council Bluffs, Missouri River


Nailed it.
 
2013-03-12 12:23:19 PM  
I'm working a gig in Iowa in a little over a week--they liked me so much last year that I'm making a return appearance.  Truth is, places like Cedar Rapids or the Quad Cities are seriously underrated and are actually very nice places to live in.  On the other hand, glamorous tourist traps like Sunset Boulevard or Manhattan are seriously overrated--Sunset Boulevard had some upscale shops but it was mostly nail and tanning salons.  I'll bet your typical corn farmer is a nicer person than your typical passive-aggressive Farker...
 
2013-03-12 12:31:22 PM  
It speaks to the general immaturity of a lot of the people who post on Fark.  Baby nursing?  Well, I'll just whip my dick out and pee in public!  Never mind that the little baby will soon be pottytrained, because it is unacceptable for adults and older kids to urinate in public.  People who are deathly allergic to peanuts?  Never mind that the allergic person is someone's child, and nothing else is "wrong" with the person.  They should just be fed peanuts and if they die, oh well, Darwin.  A young woman weighs 150 pounds instead of 110?  Fatty.  Put down the fork, Fatty, say the multitudes of ugly people, people with tiny dicks, people who smell like a gym bag full of sweaty, dirty gym socks, people who are mean, rude, and generally unfun to be around, so they have no friends -- people who smoke, drink, do drugs, or have other unhealthful habits.

I appreciate the month of total fark that was gifted to me, but I really don't care to spend more time on fark.  I really do just read it for the articles, and sift through the garbage in the comments in case someone has something intelligent or interesting to say.

A person lives in the country and raises the food we all eat?  Durrr, must be really stupid.  Never mind that the farmer works harder than probably anyone posting on here.  Never mind that he has to have a keen knowledge of mathematics, the skills of a mechanic, the skills of a veterinarian.  Never mind that he and his family have to "go to town," probably a half hour away at least, to buy the things they need.

Sometimes you people make me sick.  Go ahead and post your "welcome to fark."  If you are so proud of being douchebags that you display it with that stupid picture, there really is no hope for you.
 
2013-03-12 12:37:40 PM  

Cowkitchen2: Sometimes you people make me sick.  Go ahead and post your "welcome to fark."  If you are so proud of being douchebags that you display it with that stupid picture, there really is no hope for you.


U mad bro?
 
2013-03-12 12:38:14 PM  

DownDaRiver: I wish these could male a come back for everyday wear, for people other than farmer types.
They are just so comfortable, versitale, and they have lots of handy pockets.

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They tried.
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2013-03-12 12:38:42 PM  
Sign. Me. Up.

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2013-03-12 12:43:04 PM  

Salmon: Sign. Me. Up.

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I'd plow it
 
2013-03-12 12:47:12 PM  

show me: U mad bro?


For me, it is not about being mad.  More accurate to say that I am disappointed in the blatent bigotry.

/Oh, well - I guess folks gotta hate.
 
2013-03-12 12:50:32 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: DownDaRiver: I wish these could male a come back for everyday wear, for people other than farmer types.
They are just so comfortable, versitale, and they have lots of handy pockets.

[imageshack.us image 250x250]

They tried.


Maybe I am a bit wierd
But I find overalls on a woman to be very sexy
 
2013-03-12 12:53:21 PM  
bagumpity

Anyone who has seen the Come On Eileen video knows that overalls CAN be sexy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc-P8oDuS0Q

(Sorry, could not find HQ version)


Dexy's Midnight Runners
We haven't heard the last of them.

and
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

Seconded. Nutting sexier than a tank top and coveralls 'cept maybe just coveralls
CSB
Before I went in the Army, I worked in a greenhouse. There were a bunch of ladies in the transplant shed that would transplant (hence the name) plants from the flats to the plastic trays. Many of them were just out of high school party babes and wore bib overalls and a tube top. I'm guessing, the temperature in the transplant shed was kept slightly high so they wouldn't get any ideas about covering up.
 
2013-03-12 12:54:43 PM  

HeadLever: show me: U mad bro?

For me, it is not about being mad.  More accurate to say that I am disappointed in the blatent bigotry.

/Oh, well - I guess folks gotta hate.


I gotcha. Most relatives I have live in rural central Missouri, I'm kind of a first generation city-folk (actually suburban, but meh.) A lot of them are very conservative, but some that are old enough to remember the depression (not many of those left anymore) are decidedly not.
 
2013-03-12 01:03:16 PM  
mmmm country girl thread?

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2013-03-12 01:04:12 PM  
Welcome to Iowa.  We're nice, biatch.
 
2013-03-12 01:04:30 PM  
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2013-03-12 01:04:40 PM  

show me: A lot of them are very conservative, but some that are old enough to remember the depression (not many of those left anymore) are decidedly not.


Most of the ones that I know are 'conservative' but not 'GOP conservative'.

If liberals could ever get over thier distain for rural folks and tweaked a few items to become more of a big tent party, they could win many of these folks over in a hurry.  Most of these folks still have the "I like Ike" buttons.  Choose this path and it would not even be a contest.

This explains it pretty well and is exemplified in the dumbasses in this thread.
 
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2013-03-12 01:11:16 PM  
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hay is country
 
2013-03-12 01:12:01 PM  
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2013-03-12 01:17:21 PM  
Alrighty i like were this thread is headed.

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2013-03-12 01:19:10 PM  
www.demotivationalposters.org
 
2013-03-12 01:21:54 PM  
and one last one:
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2013-03-12 01:21:58 PM  

Wild Eyed and Wicked: except for a few people who are paid set aside monies, I do not know anyone who get subsidies


So if you don't count the people you know who receive subsidies, the people you know don't receive subsidies.
 
2013-03-12 01:26:00 PM  

jaytkay: Wild Eyed and Wicked: except for a few people who are paid set aside monies, I do not know anyone who get subsidies

So if you don't count the people you know who receive subsidies, the people you know don't receive subsidies.


And to clarify, I'm not singling out farmers. That's the way everybody has been taught to see government:
"We" deserve to participate in government programs.
But "they" are getting unfair handouts.
 
2013-03-12 01:27:49 PM  
this thread got good fast.
 
2013-03-12 01:31:00 PM  
Hubby's from CR - city boy.
 
2013-03-12 01:32:59 PM  

jaytkay: So if you don't count the people you know who receive subsidies, the people you know don't receive subsidies.


Set-aside subsides are only one specific type of subsidy.
 
2013-03-12 01:35:41 PM  
Thanks for the pics, farkers.
What huge... tracts of land.
 
2013-03-12 01:38:30 PM  

jaytkay: "We" deserve to participate in government programs.
But "they" are getting unfair handouts.


Yeah, there is always the selfish part of this, however, for food, you don't want to be messing around.

One of the things that this country has going for it is an abundance of food.  For this to continue, you will need to have the ability to keep stability in this sector and many of these subsides attempt to do that.  Not to say that there is not some room for improvement, because there are some really screwed up things with the Farm Bill.  However, the overarching goal is one that this conservative can support.

/no, I don't farm or ranch
 
2013-03-12 01:40:07 PM  
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2013-03-12 01:41:22 PM  
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OG baby
 
2013-03-12 01:42:16 PM  
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of course she's country, she's from Kansas
 
2013-03-12 01:42:56 PM  
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2013-03-12 01:45:03 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: mmmm country girl thread?

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you make everything better
 
2013-03-12 01:52:03 PM  
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2013-03-12 01:57:19 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img833.imageshack.us image 240x318]
OG baby


Does Wonder Woman count as country? Or is all it takes to have the front of your shirt tied together?

/Not complaining
 
2013-03-12 02:00:19 PM  
I've searched the world over and thought I found true love.
 
2013-03-12 02:09:32 PM  
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2013-03-12 02:12:25 PM  

HeadLever: jaytkay: So if you don't count the people you know who receive subsidies, the people you know don't receive subsidies.

Set-aside subsides are only one specific type of subsidy



That is what I was trying to say - the people I know who get set aside money are actually getting paid not to farm.  The people who are actually farming that I know do not recieve any subsidies.  I do not talk "farm" normally without people who are not used to it...
 
2013-03-12 02:19:19 PM  
Planned Events:
Raising the hog
Buttering the corn
Plowing the dirt
Churning the butter
Perfect melons
Makin' Bacon
Disease prevention
 
2013-03-12 02:25:42 PM  
... and  who has a well developed ability in grammerand can string together a simple declarative sentence .... using correct personal and impersonal pronouns ...

/subby
 
2013-03-12 02:29:31 PM  

Wild Eyed and Wicked: HeadLever: jaytkay: So if you don't count the people you know who receive subsidies, the people you know don't receive subsidies.

Set-aside subsides are only one specific type of subsidy


That is what I was trying to say - the people I know who get set aside money are actually getting paid not to farm.  The people who are actually farming that I know do not recieve any subsidies.  I do not talk "farm" normally without people who are not used to it...


The mega farms that are paid not to farm are paid so they don't drive the Ma & Pas out of business. Do to the economies of scale and the bulk prices they can get those companies could drive the prices so low that Ma Farmer couldn't stay in business.
So the government is helping them, it's just that most don't get it.
 
2013-03-12 02:30:58 PM  
The Michelle and Marcus Bachmann farm is seeking some buff young men for its dating service.
 
2013-03-12 02:43:10 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The mega farms that are paid not to farm are paid so they don't drive the Ma & Pas out of business. Do to the economies of scale and the bulk prices they can get those companies could drive the prices so low that Ma Farmer couldn't stay in business.
So the government is helping them, it's just that most don't get it.


So one side effect of this would seem to be the creation of artificial shortages. It's probably pretty complicated, with the fallow land being able to recover some nutrients, etc. but producing all we can without farking up the land seems like it would be good for our trade balance.
 
2013-03-12 03:03:13 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: The mega farms that are paid not to farm are paid so they don't drive the Ma & Pas out of business.


There is that and there is also the wildlife and riparian part of the CRP as well.
 
2013-03-12 03:05:29 PM  

Wild Eyed and Wicked: I do not talk "farm" normally without people who are not used to it...


It is really sad how far removed most people are from the source of their own food.
 
2013-03-12 03:17:34 PM  

show me: So one side effect of this would seem to be the creation of artificial shortages.


Which translates into price support for some.  As Stealth alluded to, many of these programs are intended to keep small farmers IN buisness.  One or two bad years could wipe a huge number of them out leaving Big Ag to pick over their bones.

It is hard enough to make it as a small farmer/rancher.  As the saying goes, if youare a farmer/rancher you are likely land rich and cash poor.  You are sitting on milllions in assets, but you owe your soul to the bank.  Here in the west where I grew up, the temptation to sell the spread for millions and put all the hard work and meager wages is only offset by the pride that these folks have in the work they do and the history of thier families.

For these folks, the problem is trying to keep the kids involved. That is why the Paul Harvey piece hits home for thoise that know what this life involves.
 
2013-03-12 03:20:32 PM  

HeadLever: Wild Eyed and Wicked: I do not talk "farm" normally without people who are not used to it...

It is really sad how far removed most people are from the source of their own food.


It is really sad how far removed most people are from the source of their own electronic devices.
 
2013-03-12 03:52:50 PM  

stonicus: It is really sad how far removed most people are from the source of their own electronic devices.


Pretty easy to live without those as long as you have the other.
 
2013-03-12 04:03:32 PM  

HeadLever: show me: So one side effect of this would seem to be the creation of artificial shortages.

Which translates into price support for some.  As Stealth alluded to, many of these programs are intended to keep small farmers IN buisness.  One or two bad years could wipe a huge number of them out leaving Big Ag to pick over their bones.

It is hard enough to make it as a small farmer/rancher.  As the saying goes, if youare a farmer/rancher you are likely land rich and cash poor.  You are sitting on milllions in assets, but you owe your soul to the bank.  Here in the west where I grew up, the temptation to sell the spread for millions and put all the hard work and meager wages is only offset by the pride that these folks have in the work they do and the history of thier families.

For these folks, the problem is trying to keep the kids involved. That is why the Paul Harvey piece hits home for thoise that know what this life involves.


Cuz nobody else works hard or has family businesses, only farmers do that.
 
2013-03-12 04:12:52 PM  

wedun: HeadLever: Nah, they are all sheep screwing, methhead, hillbilly rednecks that are on welfare. At least that is what 90% of those on Fark really think.

those are all blatant falsehoods except for the welfare part.

farms are bigger welfare recipients than blah people in the city.


I know this might be hard for someone of your limited intelligence, but please, educate yourself on where the subsidies go, then you may come back and have a conversation with the rest of the adults...

Grew up on a farm, went to college, got a job in computers, trying to get back into farming....

Pretty much my life story.  Any successful farmer is a jack of all trades.  Business man, Chemist, Carpenter, Mechanic, Biologist, Mathematician, Nutritionist, Electrician, Engineer, Physicist, etc... All in a practical sense.  Being stupid and farming do not go hand in hand (or they wouldn't for long, because your hands would be the property of an auger if you weren't paying attention).

But, just like everything else, people deride what they do not understand.  My grandfather and dad treated every task on the farm as a learning opportunity, making me figure out in my head how many bushels of corn a grain bin could hold, how to read medication and administer shots, what the chemical makeup of the feed supplement meant, how to handle dangerous chemicals, how to write up the books and do the taxes, replace the belt on a mower and a combine, run wiring, weld, build a shed, etc...

The most important thing, the benefit of a hard days worth of honest labor.  Being able to sit down at the end of the day and appreciate every ache, every bruise, every cut.  Being able to point to a stalk of corn or a steer and go "I raised that".  Not many people get this opportunity.
 
2013-03-12 04:16:04 PM  

show me: So one side effect of this would seem to be the creation of artificial shortages. It's probably pretty complicated, with the fallow land being able to recover some nutrients, etc. but producing all we can without farking up the land seems like it would be good for our trade balance.


It's not the land. We have plenty of that.

And I'm not sure if artificial is the right word for this. Corn is just like any other commodity you make more of it and the price will naturally dip. Economics works. We could feed the world with our current level of ability the only problem is that the world can't afford to be feed. If we actually kicked up production to the point of feeding every man woman and child and sold it for the price they could afford the prices would crash
 
2013-03-12 04:25:08 PM  

HeadLever: One or two bad years could wipe a huge number of them out leaving Big Ag to pick over their bones


I figured it out, in the past ten years, my fathers farm subsidies figure out to an average of $1000 a year.

That is not enough to buy the seed corn with. He knows he could live without them, but hey if its there why not take it?

HeadLever: if youare a farmer/rancher you are likely land rich and cash poor.  You are sitting on milllions in assets, but you owe your soul to the bank.


My grandfather is a stock market whiz (except for selling his WalMart stock too soon).  He made a ton of money in the market, enough to retire on.  He is in his mid 80's and still goes out everyday at 7:00 am (instead of 6:00 am, that is his "retirement").  We are an exception, somehow we have had a combination of brains and good luck.  Many others in the area have not.

HeadLever: For these folks, the problem is trying to keep the kids involved. That is why the Paul Harvey piece hits home for thoise that know what this life involves.


Yeah, I have an older brother.  He was the one groomed to the farm, and I was groomed for college.  My dad was going to go to college (was accepted and everything) but decided to stay on the farm, and was so happy when I went to college.

Now, I work in a building all day with people that annoy me.  My brother turned out to be a lazy good for nothing and hates my dad.  I keep trying to get back but my dad just thinks I have a better life (which isn't true).  I am trying to start my own, but damn it is hard.
 
2013-03-12 04:33:47 PM  

stonicus: HeadLever: Wild Eyed and Wicked: I do not talk "farm" normally without people who are not used to it...

It is really sad how far removed most people are from the source of their own food.

It is really sad how far removed most people are from the source of their own electronic devices.


Please talk some more about Linux.
 
2013-03-12 04:42:24 PM  

jaytkay: Cuz nobody else works hard or has family businesses, only farmers do that.


What the hell you talking about skippy?
 
2013-03-12 04:49:13 PM  

Burr: Now, I work in a building all day with people that annoy me. My brother turned out to be a lazy good for nothing and hates my dad. I keep trying to get back but my dad just thinks I have a better life (which isn't true). I am trying to start my own, but damn it is hard.


As a civil engineer, I try to capitalize on every opportunity to go back and move irrigation pipes, brand, plow, fix fence and help in any way I can on the ranches I grew up around.  Good folks and good work.
 
2013-03-12 04:58:55 PM  

HeadLever: jaytkay: Cuz nobody else works hard or has family businesses, only farmers do that.

What the hell you talking about skippy?


He apprently thinks somebody said "only farmers suffer" instead of "most farmers suffer and it is a dying part of america" cause you know we are in a thread about farming.....


Here, I will help him in his trolling.  Nobody gets into farming to make it into a massively profitable business, and if they do they soon learn the folly of their ways.  You will never see a farmer who hires people to do the work for him 100%.  Not only are they doing the books in the backroom, and ordering inventory, they are stocking the shelves, cleaning the bathrooms, getting biatched at by the customers, opening the store, closing the store, on call 24/7, open on all holidays, and no vacation time. Bad weather, power outages, 100 degree days, mean nothing to a farmer. You rarely see them retire unless they are forced too (and most would die in the field then in a hospital).  Plus, while you may be able to close a store for a weekend or a sunday, you can never close a farm.  It has to be running everyday.

/was lucky if we went on a week long family vacation every five years
 
2013-03-12 05:11:24 PM  

HeadLever: As a civil engineer, I try to capitalize on every opportunity to go back and move irrigation pipes, brand, plow, fix fence and help in any way I can on the ranches I grew up around.  Good folks and good work.


I usually try to show up around baling season.  Makes it easier if there is another hand to help lift thousands of straw bales in July with 90 degree heat and 80% humidity for a good 6 straight hours praying for a nice breeze. That is if you are lucky....

If you are unlucky, you are unloading in the barn.

Other then that, I work 11 hours a day for my job and have two small children, makes it harder to get over there.
 
2013-03-12 07:05:17 PM  

Burr: He apprently thinks somebody said "only farmers suffer" instead of "most farmers suffer and it is a dying part of america" cause you know we are in a thread about farming.....


No, I think that lots of people work hard and even suffer.

But the argument is being made here that farmers are unique and we have to subsidize the industry to preserve and admittedly nonviable business model.

Should we create programs to keep family-owned hardware stores in business? Should the corner tavern be propped up by the taxpayers so it can compete with TGIF Fridays?
 
2013-03-12 07:12:49 PM  
The farmers I know are really nice people, tend to be politically centrist along the lines of "if they're workin', then sure, our taxes should be used to help give 'em a leg up, but if they don't want to work, we won't feed 'em," and think absolutely nothing of learning a new skill in order to get the job done. I had a guy in his fifties who came in to one of the classes I sometimes run at the library. He wanted to learn how to use a computer better because he could only manage email and QuickBooks and his kids had told him that city people were paying crazy-good money for organically-grown or free-range food, if he could just get online more.

Within six weeks, he was coding HTML, setting up Wi-Fi networks for his friends and passing his evenings playing MMORPGs with his grandsons. I'd never seen a guy learn so much so fast. He'd take the lessons with everyone else, but then he'd go and buy a book and practice every free moment he had, plus he'd pay me for an hour or two of my time here and there to get him really in-depth on specific things. By the four-month mark, he had a website, a thingy for his brand-new smartphone so he could swipe cards when people paid him at the farmer's market and was making more than any of the other farmers who offered similar things because his marketing was direct and better.

And he thought nothing more of it than when he'd gone to the community-college and learned to weld, do electrical wiring or install plumbing so he could do his own. Job needs a skill, farmer gets a skill. That simple. It was such a different, refreshing attitude to learning, and I've tried to follow his lead since. (I can install plumbing and next week I'm going to a carpentry class!)

Since I worked for an I.T. firm in a semi-rural area at the time and was teaching computer skills on the side, my manager suggested I accept barter for lessons if people offered it. I never regretted it for a second. Laid-that-day eggs, veggies so fresh they still had some dirt on 'em, and for Christmas the farmer who learned so fast gave me one of the hams he'd raised and smoked himself as a present. (I gave him a 2TB external hard drive, as we'd gotten to be good friends.) Tastiest ham I'd ever had in my life. For a second I felt a little weird, because I'd met all four of his hogs while they were alive and was nervous I might recognize which one was Christmas dinner, but just smelling it, I got over my city-girl squeamishness.

My husband, who grew up in farm country and fought hard to become an engineer so he wouldn't have to live as farmers do, still likes them and we have a lot of friends who farm. We'd never be able to live that way ourselves full-time (it's just not what we're good at or comfortable with long-term,) but we do love to lend a hand when our friends are baling, lambing or need someone to trap the barn cats for neutering and vaccinations, and it turns out I'm not bad at sheep-shearing.
 
2013-03-12 07:26:36 PM  

Cowkitchen2: people who smoke, drink, do drugs, or have other unhealthful habits.


Hey now, let's not get carried away with this two minutes of hate session.
 
2013-03-12 08:10:18 PM  
i could just dig grandpa out of the ground and kick his corpse for selling out in '65 and moving into town

yeah, indoor plumbing is great though
 
2013-03-12 08:20:40 PM  
 
2013-03-12 08:50:34 PM  

jaytkay: But the argument is being made here that farmers are unique and we have to subsidize the industry to preserve and admittedly nonviable business model.


lol, who said it was unique? It is hard work for meger pay.  Nothing less, nothing more.  And it is viable if you put in the time, effort and needed resources.  Who is admitting that it is nonviable besides you?
 
2013-03-12 08:57:17 PM  

jaytkay: Should we create programs to keep family-owned hardware stores in business? Should the corner tavern be propped up by the taxpayers so it can compete with TGIF Fridays?


I guess we shouldn't expect the elitist dumbasses to know the difference between food and weed eater string.  You exlemplify the point to a T.
 
2013-03-12 09:00:26 PM  

jaytkay: Burr: He apprently thinks somebody said "only farmers suffer" instead of "most farmers suffer and it is a dying part of america" cause you know we are in a thread about farming.....

No, I think that lots of people work hard and even suffer.

But the argument is being made here that farmers are unique and we have to subsidize the industry to preserve and admittedly nonviable business model.

Should we create programs to keep family-owned hardware stores in business? Should the corner tavern be propped up by the taxpayers so it can compete with TGIF Fridays?


Look at the link I posted above to see how the subsidies are distributed.  Joe the farmer barely gets anything, at least not enough to make a difference.  Most small time family farmers will agree that subsidies are ridiculous. And there are government programs to help every business, not just farmers, just subsidies are large enough to be noticed.
 
2013-03-12 09:04:57 PM  

Burr: I usually try to show up around baling season.


Unfortunately, I have hay fever, so I get to miss out on cutting, bailing and stacking.  Can move pipes and flood irrigate in it all day long though.
 
2013-03-12 09:11:45 PM  

HeadLever: Who is admitting that it is nonviable besides you?


Some angry jerkoff who keeps blirting out "elitist!" and "dumbasses!" and "bigots!" says family farms only exist thanks to government subsidies. Yell at him, not me. Here's the quote:

HeadLever: Which translates into price support for some. As Stealth alluded to, many of these programs are intended to keep small farmers IN buisness. One or two bad years could wipe a huge number of them out leaving Big Ag to pick over their bones.

 
2013-03-12 09:12:41 PM  

Burr: Look at the link I posted above to see how the subsidies are distributed.


Farm subsidies should be centered around making sure that farms can make it through the rough times and not for lining the pockets of those that know how to play the system.  They are there to ensure a constant and stable food supply.  That is Item #1 in any society.

If you ever want to screw with society, start messing around with the food supply.
 
2013-03-12 09:19:24 PM  

jaytkay: Some angry jerkoff who keeps blirting out "elitist!" and "dumbasses!" and "bigots!" says family farms only exist thanks to government subsidies.


where did I say that?  You making stuff up again?
 
2013-03-12 09:25:59 PM  
Crap, my bold did not work.  let's try that again:

Some angry jerkoff who keeps blirting out "elitist!" and "dumbasses!" and "bigots!" says family farms only exist thanks to government subsidies.
 
2013-03-12 09:27:17 PM  

HeadLever: jaytkay: Some angry jerkoff who keeps blirting out "elitist!" and "dumbasses!" and "bigots!" says family farms only exist thanks to government subsidies.

where did I say that?  You making stuff up again?


Holy crap, your dishonesty is too stunning.
 
2013-03-12 09:35:00 PM  

jaytkay: Holy crap, your dishonesty is too stunning.


No your twisting of my point is, though.
 
2013-03-12 09:50:32 PM  
Come on Jaykay, show me where I said that 'farms ONLY exist thanks to government subsides".  Still waiting on justification of your dumb point.

Or did you slink off already?
 
2013-03-12 10:21:00 PM  

Burr: HeadLever: As a civil engineer, I try to capitalize on every opportunity to go back and move irrigation pipes, brand, plow, fix fence and help in any way I can on the ranches I grew up around.  Good folks and good work.

I usually try to show up around baling season.  Makes it easier if there is another hand to help lift thousands of straw bales in July with 90 degree heat and 80% humidity for a good 6 straight hours praying for a nice breeze. That is if you are lucky....

If you are unlucky, you are unloading in the barn.

Other then that, I work 11 hours a day for my job and have two small children, makes it harder to get over there.


I always get the loft because my old man has a bad knee and my brothers are incompetent. I don't mind it much, I'd rather sweat it out and make sure the mow's built properly
 
2013-03-12 10:24:21 PM  

Burr: and have two small children,


I do too. I spend a good chunk of time trying to figure out how I can get them the same experiences that I had growing up.
 
2013-03-13 12:26:37 AM  
a love of corn, overalls and a city of five smells...
 
2013-03-13 12:31:49 AM  
I tried to make something beautiful.

Ya'll messed it right up
 
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