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(Reuters)   Yahoo employees complain to CEO that they still have 800 vacancies because she is a snob who only wants CS degrees and only from certain schools. Her response? "Why can't we just be better at hiring"? And that's why she makes the big bucks   (reuters.com) divider line 36
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2013-03-12 11:12:04 AM
5 votes:

Flint Ironstag: She automatically reject Steve Jobs and Bill Gates because neither have a degree.


I think Steve has worse problems now than not having a degree.
2013-03-12 11:11:22 AM
4 votes:

GAT_00: such as banning mothers from staying home with their kids right as she finished a huge new nursery in her home,


Actually, the new nursery is next to her office at work.

I bet she would be a crazy good lay, but if you didn't perform up to snuff she would use her kung-fu-like kegel training to snap your dick off.
2013-03-12 10:27:51 AM
4 votes:
"Why can't we just be good at hiring?" Mayer said, playing off a line from what she called one of her favorite movies, 1989's "Say Anything",

Serious red flag.

When I was in college, that was #3 on my list of red flags for potential bedmates, right between earwax candles and Gypsy Kings CDs.

This woman's going to end up pounding on someone's door at 3 AM sobbing, screaming something about being responsible for her own happiness and demanding her Proto Pipe back.
2013-03-12 11:41:23 AM
3 votes:

GameSprocket: soakitincider: this lady is a terrible CEO.

Yeah, the stock is only up about 40% since she took over. Terrible.


Yeah, but Google's stock is up 43% since she left the company.
2013-03-12 01:26:53 PM
2 votes:
So how long until an anonymous source from Yahoo tells the media, "Don't you think she looks tired?"
2013-03-12 01:24:14 PM
2 votes:

show me: Flint Ironstag: She automatically reject Steve Jobs and Bill Gates because neither have a degree.

I think Steve has worse problems now than not having a degree.


Yeah, he doesn't have 98.6 of them.
/37 for our metric friends
2013-03-12 12:25:38 PM
2 votes:

Magorn: She still basically cancelled all work from home because she felt that people working at home weren't 100% focused on their jobs, and then, at the same time, installed something in HER office that makes it clear she doesn;t intend to focus on her job 100% of the time.  It's a really obnoxious expression of an RHIP attitude


And studies show work-from-home is more productive. So she's ignoring empirical reality and going with her gut.

If she was really concerned, maybe yahoo could track worker productivity at home vs work, but that would require them to work with information, data processing and analytics, which is way outside Yahoo's domain.
2013-03-12 10:01:04 AM
2 votes:
Lady, you're not Google.  Get over yourself.
2013-03-12 09:50:04 AM
2 votes:
Because you have a clueless twat for a CEO.

/I'm ready to start immediately, anything in the six-figure range will be fine.
2013-03-12 11:31:08 PM
1 votes:

mmagdalene: Your breasts will leak every time you think of your baby or hear another baby cry. You will be weepy, irritable, suffer short-term memory loss and find yourself so madly in love with your baby that every moment away from him is a feeling of pure anguish. You'll forget when you last showered for a couple of months and doze off throughout the day for about a year.


Thankfully, that is not the experience for every woman who has a child. The way you describe it makes my skin crawl.

/woman
/had a child
2013-03-12 08:26:44 PM
1 votes:

impaler: See how far you get trying to become a Doctor without a degree.


That's a stupid argument - you might face plenty of difficulty if not an outright impossibility in becoming a Doctor (big-D) -- but I see no reason why a person of considerable intelligence would not be able to learn the information on their own that would otherwise enable them to be a doctor.

But the analogy ends there - a doctor can perform reasonably well with a reasonable ongoing commitment to learning. A software developer on the other hand can practically throw away knowledge more than a few years old - obvious exceptions notwithstanding. It's only getting worse as the number of languages and frameworks balloon out. It doesn't matter per se - a good developer should be able to learn any of them, but if you need someone to say, fix something, and fast, you can't rely on that. So what matters more is the real world working knowledge that they currently possess. The equivalent would be going to a doctor and saying "Hey, so I don't have any of the organs you would expect, but can you diagnose what's wrong with me?" - zombie apocalypse aside, would you want a vet looking at you?
2013-03-12 07:56:44 PM
1 votes:

OgreMagi: dwrash: The only courses I liked were 2 Comp-Sci courses where the professors gave preemtive final exams about 3 weeks into the course to see what kind of apptitude people had. I passed both exams and was told I got an A in the course and attendance was not necessary for the rest of the semester unless I wanted to help the other students.

When I was an Electronics major, I took a Pascal programming class for the hell of it.  It turned out I knew it better than the professor and he had the decency to recognize that fact in the class.  Yeah, I got an A.  It's hard to fail someone who does the homework assignment on paper, without verifying it on a computer, five minutes after he wrote the problem on the board, and I handed it in as I walked out.  I think he stopped bothering to grade my homework.


I just want you to know that when I say, "Oh my God", I'm thinking of you.

I bet you're quite handsome and I feel like I should write you a check for several thousand dollars.
2013-03-12 07:35:37 PM
1 votes:

Katie Couric's Crotch: She's the CEO of Yahoo. What are you doing with your life asshole?


Once I was the king of Spain.

/Now the Leafs call me up to drive the Zamboni
2013-03-12 07:02:38 PM
1 votes:

Magorn: She still basically cancelled all work from home because she felt that people working at home weren't 100% focused on their jobs, and then, at the same time, installed something in HER office that makes it clear she doesn;t intend to focus on her job 100% of the time.  It's a really obnoxious expression of an RHIP attitude


She didn't 'feel' that people working from home weren't doing their jobs - she had data that showed they weren't even logging in to the corporate network. So they were paying 0% attention. I hardly think taking a minute to feed your newborn, or spend lunch hour with them is a big deal - especially not when she's working longer than an 8 hour day to start with.

As some one who telecommutes for a major industry player, I can only shake my head in disbelief that this wasn't caught by her predecessors. Also, not every single employee who telecommutes was ordered back to the office.
2013-03-12 04:49:58 PM
1 votes:
I hated college.. the learning pace was way too slow and I have a low tolerance for repetitive nonsense.

The only courses I liked were 2 Comp-Sci courses where the professors gave preemtive final exams about 3 weeks into the course to see what kind of apptitude people had.  I passed both exams and was told I got an A in the course and attendance was not necessary for the rest of the semester unless I wanted to help the other students.

Give me a text book, I will read it and digest it in about a week and pass any test on its contents.

Why do we have to learn at the pace of the slowest learner in the class?... its PAINFUL.
2013-03-12 04:30:22 PM
1 votes:

cybrwzrd: This is just a theory of mine:


Degrees are for people who are not intelligent enough or adaptable enough to learn and succeed on their own, which happens to be the plurality of humanity. I would say that for people of average iq - 90-120, a degree - or some sort of specialization is necessary to succeed in life. You can be a very good doctor, lawyer, scientist or anything else with a 110-120 IQ, but you will likely be unskilled at just about anything else you try to learn outside your speciality.


The the truly capable - a small minority, like your father- are able to do pretty much anything they put their mind to. This applies to IQs above 120 or 130 - and the higher the IQ, the more detrimental structured learning and/or specialization becomes. The higher the IQ, the sharper the ability to see patterns - and the ability to see patterns ties in with the ability to see how different fields interrelate.


Why would you suggest "average" is -10 to +20 around the standardized average? C'mon, you could at least use one standard deviation and say 85 to 115.
2013-03-12 04:00:07 PM
1 votes:

show me: poot_rootbeer: Guys, can you maybe find a way to critique Mayer's job performance without calling her a "twat" or a "coont"?

Come on.

Yeah, give the slut a break.


Biatches hate being called sluts.
2013-03-12 03:57:42 PM
1 votes:
I'm an old-school system administrator.  That means I learned it the hard way long before there was much in the way of degrees for that type of job.  There really isn't a "system admin" degree, the closest you can get is information technology, which has serious definiciencies.  I'm very good at my job.  I have worked for Google and currently work for a major technology company.  I would have stayed at Google, but that was back when that biatch was in charge of hiring so I was unable to switch from contract to permanent since I did not meet her requirements, never mind that I did the job for an entire year and got rave reviews from my manager.

I get pinged by a yahoo recruiter every few months.  They seem to be a bit slow because I have repeatedly told them "not a farking chance in hell".  Maybe I should change that to, "tell that Mayer biatch to go to blow me and I'll consider it".
2013-03-12 03:26:40 PM
1 votes:

poot_rootbeer: Guys, can you maybe find a way to critique Mayer's job performance without calling her a "twat" or a "coont"?

Come on.


What, her face?
2013-03-12 01:37:11 PM
1 votes:
Yahoo was struggling with the perception that its best days are behind it, according to recruiting consultants.

Yeah, I wonder how people got that idea...
2013-03-12 01:04:06 PM
1 votes:
I've got a 2nd callback over at Lycos.
2013-03-12 12:52:40 PM
1 votes:

SDRR: CPennypacker: Shrugging Atlas: If Mayer wasn't a good looking woman, would Yahoo! be getting any attention at all regardless of all these stupid policies?  Honest to god, every time it comes up the only thing I can think of is, "Why the fark is Yahoo still around?"

No seriously, why is yahoo still around?

So I have a place for all my junk email to go when I need an email address I don't actually use?


I thought that was outlook.com now
2013-03-12 12:48:15 PM
1 votes:
RexTalionis
Bill Gates has an honorary degree from Harvard.

Jobs had an honorary degree, too. I think the point is that they got those honorary degrees long after they became wealthy and successful.

/this is what happens when non-geeks try to run technology companies
//maybe she knows the hiring process is farked because they hired her
2013-03-12 12:19:42 PM
1 votes:

IlGreven: GameSprocket: traylor: GameSprocket: soakitincider: this lady is a terrible CEO.

Yeah, the stock is only up about 40% since she took over. Terrible.

Yeah, but Google's stock is up 43% since she left the company.

It is true that the markets are going up for just about everything, but Yahoo was (and still kinda is) a joke. Everyone just expected it to roll over and die.

It is rolling over and dying.  It's just the scavangers have an interest in keeping it alive long enough to drain every last bit of blood out of the carcass before it goes.  Any signs of improvement are just a smokescreen until the leeches have been fully sated.


That could be. My only point was that there is no measure that indicates that Mayer is a terrible CEO. The company can still be shiat.
2013-03-12 12:18:55 PM
1 votes:

JK47: GAT_00: I'm pretty convinced she's a terrible CEO no matter what, but her actions, such as banning mothers from staying home with their kids right as she finished a huge new nursery in her home, is the very definition of an out of touch CEO driving a company into the ground.  Her gender is irrelevant in that, except that her actions are somewhat more shocking when she personally knows better, or would if she had any empathy.


The nursery is in a room next to her office, it's not huge, and apparently she furnished it using her own funds and mostly by purchasing a few items from ikea (a table, some shelves, a crib).  She also returned to work 2 weeks after the birth as opposed to 2 months afterwards.


This is what I don't get- She is the CEO, in control of every aspect of the entire operation. It's just a tad different than the accountant or whatever who was working from home and is now put out. Is it just easier to be outraged?
2013-03-12 12:18:17 PM
1 votes:

LemSkroob: Magorn: She still basically cancelled all work from home because she felt that people working at home weren't 100% focused on their jobs, and then, at the same time, installed something in HER office that makes it clear she doesn;t intend to focus on her job 100% of the time.  It's a really obnoxious expression of an RHIP attitude

Even in the bigger picture, nursery aside, she is basically saying that, as a cutting edge internet-based company, the internet is not a viable method for getting "real" work done. Brick and Mortar!


It is funny to see a company dismiss their business model. We're looking to implement a customer relationship management tool and we almost immediately dismissed any "cloud based" solution. We're a cloud based company. You can't explain that.
2013-03-12 12:12:44 PM
1 votes:

timujin: It's not "gets better" or "stays the same".  The third option, continuing its downward spiral and imploding, is seeming more and more likely.  She's applying 20th century practices to a 21st century company.  This isn't IBM circa 1955.  The best talent these days doesn't necessarily come from Stanford or MIT, sometimes it's just a wunderkind hacker who's never even gone to college.  Ignoring that because of some antiquated idea of what corporate standards should be can ruin an IT company.


Its also the same line of thinking that keeps our CIA/FBI/NSA/etc agencies lacking in top anti-cyber-terrorist talent. because if you once made a mistake when you were 17 and did something stupid that most 17 year olds do, you are not allowed to work there.
2013-03-12 12:12:02 PM
1 votes:

tforbes: GameSprocket: soakitincider: this lady is a terrible CEO.

Yeah, the stock is only up about 40% since she took over. Terrible.

yah obviously.

and how much time do you spend on Yahoo now that she is CEO?


exactly.


1 billion times as much time.

She has been CEO for 9 months. Even if she had an idea for a big technology launch when she was hired, it wouldn't be ready yet.

Anyway, a "terrible CEO" is one that drives the company into the ground, not one that brings the stock price and profitability up.
2013-03-12 11:54:38 AM
1 votes:

GameSprocket: soakitincider: this lady is a terrible CEO.

Yeah, the stock is only up about 40% since she took over. Terrible.


yah obviously.

and how much time do you spend on Yahoo now that she is CEO?


exactly.
2013-03-12 11:51:37 AM
1 votes:
Well she has to be clueless if she's the CEO because that's what CEO stands for - Clueless Entity in an Organization.
2013-03-12 11:38:24 AM
1 votes:

GAT_00: I'm pretty convinced she's a terrible CEO no matter what, but her actions, such as banning mothers from staying home with their kids right as she finished a huge new nursery in her home, is the very definition of an out of touch CEO driving a company into the ground.  Her gender is irrelevant in that, except that her actions are somewhat more shocking when she personally knows better, or would if she had any empathy.



The nursery is in a room next to her office, it's not huge, and apparently she furnished it using her own funds and mostly by purchasing a few items from ikea (a table, some shelves, a crib).  She also returned to work 2 weeks after the birth as opposed to 2 months afterwards.
2013-03-12 11:21:32 AM
1 votes:

show me: Flint Ironstag: She automatically reject Steve Jobs and Bill Gates because neither have a degree.

I think Steve has worse problems now than not having a degree.


I disagree. Dude's looking better than he has in a long time.
2013-03-12 11:19:06 AM
1 votes:

show me: Flint Ironstag: She automatically reject Steve Jobs and Bill Gates because neither have a degree.

I think Steve has worse problems now than not having a degree.


Yeah, he created Apple and the legions of fanbois.
2013-03-12 11:19:06 AM
1 votes:

Flint Ironstag: She automatically reject Steve Jobs and Bill Gates because neither have a degree.


Bill Gates has an honorary degree from Harvard.
2013-03-12 10:37:37 AM
1 votes:

Voiceofreason01: Because you have a clueless twat for a CEO


That's such a rare occurrence.
2013-03-12 10:00:17 AM
1 votes:
Because the "best" people can see that Yahoo has no future.
 
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