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(Reuters)   Yahoo employees complain to CEO that they still have 800 vacancies because she is a snob who only wants CS degrees and only from certain schools. Her response? "Why can't we just be better at hiring"? And that's why she makes the big bucks   (reuters.com ) divider line
    More: Asinine, Yahoo, CEO, computing, Yahoo employees, mobile computing, Evercore Partners, personal project, Ed Boyden  
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2013-03-13 02:19:57 AM  

Geotpf: poot_rootbeer: Guys, can you maybe find a way to critique Mayer's job performance without calling her a "twat" or a "coont"?

Come on.

I actually note a hint of sexism in all the well publicized attacks on her.  Not that they aren't valid critisims, but the fact that they are well publicized is the sexist part.  That is, lots of tech companies have morons for CEOs, but we keep hearing about her because she's a she.


It's not like she is a rock star always on Today or anything, right? Maybe the tech media is a bit sexist, but that's just how it is right now. She's not doing herself any favors by going on all these shows talking about how great she is when her policies are actually pretty bad and short-sighted. She gets no sympathy from me.

It's like the proverb said: better to be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
 
2013-03-13 08:31:15 AM  
RatOMeter
Fark you very much for revealing yourself as a dumbass who has enmity toward people who succeed on their own.

Wow, you believe his story? Even if it's true why would you even mention it on Fark?

Look, I meet these "geniuses from the 90's" all the time. They're never as smart as they think they are and I've burned thousands of hours fixing their clusterfark messes. God, the worst are the ones with the hammer of recursion and EVERYTHING is a nail.

"But I taught the professor!"

Really? Because let's call him up and see if he remembers you. When they cough and say, "We've since revised our grading policies to provide improved feedback to problem students" in response, it confirms quite a bit.

/goes off to the angry dome
 
2013-03-13 08:32:27 AM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: RatOMeter
Fark you very much for revealing yourself as a dumbass who has enmity toward people who succeed on their own.

Wow, you believe his story? Even if it's true why would you even mention it on Fark?

Look, I meet these "geniuses from the 90's" all the time. They're never as smart as they think they are and I've burned thousands of hours fixing their clusterfark messes. God, the worst are the ones with the hammer of recursion and EVERYTHING is a nail.

"But I taught the professor!"

Really? Because let's call him up and see if he remembers you. When they cough and say, "We've since revised our grading policies to provide improved feedback to problem students" in response, it confirms quite a bit.

/goes off to the angry dome


Heh, yeah. My experience with these "geniuses" has been pretty much the same.
 
2013-03-13 01:06:19 PM  
Mayer reminds me of the Realty company I was a junior network admin at 4 years ago. The owner of the company kept demanding that the senior admin and I do things HIS way, despite the fact that what he wanted done on the network made no sense, or was expensive enough that he refused to pay for the correct solution (and he demanded that we "Find a way to do it" anyway). He would always respond to our refusals or demands with " I have a Computer Sciences degree, and you don't so you will do it MY way." His CS degree was 20 FRIGGIN' YEARS OLD.

The senior admin and I had graduated from a 2 year tech school with full honors in a Computers and Networking course the year we started working there (we both had current MCSA, NET+, MS Server 2008, and Security+ certs). The last straw was when the Evil Boss decided he wanted us to go out and pirate licenses for his new 20 computer office. We refused, and he had a contractor that he was old buddies with do the deed . He then told us at a all inclusive company meeting we could do what he asked without question, or leave. The entire 5 man I.T. team confronted him before the rest of the employees about what he had done, then collectively walked out. We tipped off Microsoft about the piracy and the last I heard he got nailed on charges of Piracy, Federal embezzlement (some interesting files were found in the search of the drives), and Real Estate Fraud. Scumbag lost his company and went to prison.

Anyway, just because you have a CS degree doesn't mean that you know jack about modern systems. Or that you can be trusted, for that matter.

/CSB done
 
2013-03-13 05:13:49 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: "Why the fark is Yahoo still around?"


So one can create multiple free email accounts for signing up for porn and trolling for trim on 4chan/SOC...
 
2013-03-13 07:13:17 PM  
A lot of butthurt here from folks without degrees. I also know many idiots who stuck it out long enough to get a degree. I even know idiots with master's and PhD's.

Experience goes a long, long way. While I'd be unlikely to hire someone with no degree and little experience for a BS-level job, I'd have no problem ignoring the degree for an experienced hire.

But, experience doesn't cover everything. It all depends on the person (just like with a degree). You can spend your whole life in an echo chamber and never really expand your thinking. I know plenty of people my age (40's) who haven't learned a damn thing that wasn't their job in 20 years. They get on my nerves.

I'm really looking for a lifetime learner when I hire someone. Degree isn't too important if you can demonstrate you have the skills. But for some jobs, epidemiology for one, I've never met a successful practitioner without the degree. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it doesn't seem to happen. I wouldn't hire you for a job that primarily publishes peer-reviewed work if you don't have an advanced degree, unless you've published 25+ papers. I know grad school tremendously improved my research skills.
 
2013-03-13 08:48:49 PM  

stewbert: A lot of butthurt here from folks without degrees. I also know many idiots who stuck it out long enough to get a degree. I even know idiots with master's and PhD's.


After I contracted at Google for a year I had this to say about them, "The largest concentration of idiots with advanced degrees in the entire world."

I think my basic problem with them was such a huge number were fresh out of college and had no actual concept of how things actually worked in the real world.  I'm sure most of them will eventually become productive members of society, but they need to spend time in the trenches first.
 
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