Citrate1007: Yay! Republican math thread.
MattStafford: Obamacare will allow more people access to health care. The only way to pay for this increase in health care is have other people foot the bill, as those doctor's aren't working for free. As such, this will necessarily cause some people's bills to rise, either in the form of taxes or premiums. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, as our country is wealthy and everyone should have access to health care, but to ignore that reality is disingenuous.A better solution would be a guaranteed minimum income along with some sort of universal catastrophic coverage plan. Let the market work for non life threatening procedures, but make sure health care costs don't bankrupt anyone.
vernonFL: [encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 200x200]If Obama raises my taxes any more, I'm moving to Belize.
born_yesterday: No, but Obamacare is sleeping with your wife. Sorry to had to learn about it on FARK.
enry: Two things I do know that happened in the past two years due to Obamacare:1) OTC medications can no longer be paid out of my medical FSA2) The upper limit for a medical FSA was reduced from $5000/year to $2500/yearWill this hurt some people? Probably. Has my employer taken steps to make sure that employees who don't make much are impacted less? Yes. Is it worth it to ensure that everyone in the US has access to some level of health care? Oh yeah.
J.Shelby: Citrate1007: Yay! Republican math thread.Ohh, I love math! Is this the part where we divide by zero?[gonzoj.files.wordpress.com image 560x373]
karnal: If it looks like caca.......smells like caca......and tastes like caca......then it must be Obamacare
born_yesterday: J.Shelby: Citrate1007: Yay! Republican math thread.Ohh, I love math! Is this the part where we divide by zero?[gonzoj.files.wordpress.com image 560x373]Man, I hope they teched up to perimeter defenses before they built that; the mindworms are sure to be pissed.
Moreover, most calculations show that middle-income Americans are expected to get more in tax relief , such as health-care subsidies, than in additional tax hikes. CBO, for instance, indicates that middle-income Americans would receive about $1 trillion in premium credits in this 10-year period. So on a net basis, most middle-class Americans should expect to come out ahead.
Hermione_Granger: I quit reading after Pinocchio showed up with a dildo.
festoon: Best advice when you're trying to wade through all the complex political crap: If a Republican Politician says it, its a lie.
Twigz221: We really need to stop calling it Obamacare. It was written and passed by congress, not Obama. Plus, before being passed it was so heavily altered by the Republicans due to demands by the insurance lobbyists that it hardly resembled what Obama proposed they do in the first place.
spentmiles: I hope they calculated in the cost of treating millions of cases of malnutrition after everyone is reduced to eating cat food and drinking rain water.
kid_icarus: Twigz221: We really need to stop calling it Obamacare. It was written and passed by congress, not Obama. Plus, before being passed it was so heavily altered by the Republicans due to demands by the insurance lobbyists that it hardly resembled what Obama proposed they do in the first place.We will only stop calling it Obamacare if it becomes clear that the program is a success./we don't want Nobama taking credit for something positive//in that unlikely event, we will not only start calling it the Affordable Care Act, we will act like we had always been calling it that
MattStafford: The only way to pay for this increase in health care is have other people foot the bill
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