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(The New York Times)   To summarize: "I once owned lots of cool stuff, much more than you. Then I started to experience life in a way you never will. Now, I reject materialism and live a deep, thoughtful life. Yes, I'm better than you, but maybe you can learn from me"   (nytimes.com) divider line 299
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2013-03-12 11:06:56 AM  
He purchased carbon offsets to compensate for all that extra travel he's doing now, so that makes it all ok.
 
2013-03-12 11:07:20 AM  

Marquis de Sod: GiantRex: Pocket Ninja: His description of Olga makes me think his life trajectory is actually closer to something like this:

1) Guy makes a lot of money, is happy, buys lots of crap he doesn't need.
2) Guy meets girl who's very different from the normal, vapid, airheaded, money-grubbing girls he normally meets. She travels places he's never been, listens to bands he's never heard of, is shockingly open about how much she enjoys sex, and constantly talks about how she doesn't care about money.
3) "Doesn't care about money" actually translates to "doesn't have money," but regardless of that fact she has learned that life can be experienced, gripped by the teeth, so to speak, by befriending people who do have it.
4) Girl who doesn't care about/have money and guy who has money and wants to keep farking girl go on trip together to gritty but safe third world destination. He sees gritty things, like people bathing in rivers. Girl has a copy of "Lonely Planet" that they use to find authentic local restaurants filled with backpack-toting Americans.
5) Guy begins to believe girl's message that money is unimportant, despite the fact that he is paying for everything. He begins to question his previous values. She encourages him, sometimes while out shopping.
6) They return home. Guy announces plans to change his lifestyle, downsize, become less material.
7) Girl dumps him.

The rest is fallout. Anyway, it's just one theory.

Don't let Hollywood see this, or we'll be seeing a trailer for the movie by the end of the year.

Un Chienne Andalou?


Slicin' up her eyeball, oh ho ho ho!
 
2013-03-12 11:07:30 AM  

quickdraw: The ancient Greeks avoided fame and the sin of hubris at all costs. Why? Because it would bring attention from the Gods and nothing good ever came from that kind of attention. I did not understand that fully until the invention of the internet.


Quote of the farking day.
 
2013-03-12 11:07:55 AM  

GiantRex: Pocket Ninja: His description of Olga makes me think his life trajectory is actually closer to something like this:

1) Guy makes a lot of money, is happy, buys lots of crap he doesn't need.
2) Guy meets girl who's very different from the normal, vapid, airheaded, money-grubbing girls he normally meets. She travels places he's never been, listens to bands he's never heard of, is shockingly open about how much she enjoys sex, and constantly talks about how she doesn't care about money.
3) "Doesn't care about money" actually translates to "doesn't have money," but regardless of that fact she has learned that life can be experienced, gripped by the teeth, so to speak, by befriending people who do have it.
4) Girl who doesn't care about/have money and guy who has money and wants to keep farking girl go on trip together to gritty but safe third world destination. He sees gritty things, like people bathing in rivers. Girl has a copy of "Lonely Planet" that they use to find authentic local restaurants filled with backpack-toting Americans.
5) Guy begins to believe girl's message that money is unimportant, despite the fact that he is paying for everything. He begins to question his previous values. She encourages him, sometimes while out shopping.
6) They return home. Guy announces plans to change his lifestyle, downsize, become less material.
7) Girl dumps him.

The rest is fallout. Anyway, it's just one theory.

Don't let Hollywood see this, or we'll be seeing a trailer for the movie by the end of the year.


Starring John Cusack and Lisa Bonet
 
2013-03-12 11:08:33 AM  

sigdiamond2000: The one single, common trait of all self-help gurus, minimalist living scolds, life coaches, "professional organizers," or any other fraudster of the multi-billion dollar personal improvement industry is this: They're all rich.


Yep.  They can enjoy having their minimalist lifestyle where they don't have to worry about anything because they are rich enough that they don't have to worry about anything.  They can spout the "I don't have to have a fancy sports car to be happy" bullshiat safe in their knowledge that if they wanted to, they could buy one any time they wanted, in cash.  There is a difference between being denied something by choice and being denied because it is impossible for one to obtain.  The former is a decision that one makes of their own free will, the latter is forced upon them.  Big farking surprise the the members of the former category have magically found a way to be at peace with themselves.
 
2013-03-12 11:09:37 AM  
I can't wait for this guy's Ted talk.
 
2013-03-12 11:10:07 AM  

planes: [www.mytripjournal.com image 643x480]

Retired, with the kids gone, this is our home, 240 square feet. We love it, you know where all your stuff is, and I wouldn't go back to living in a regular house. Sometimes, I'll wake upnot know where the heck I am, and have to look out the window, or go out and walk around. Great feeling.



Wife and I have decided on a slightly cheaper and a bit smaller of a retirement plan just the other night.
i153.photobucket.com
1.5sq feet of living space.  Maybe 18 more when we decide to stop and unpack the tent.  If we start saving now we might be able to retire in 20 years, maybe 30.  When we are both over 70.  Hah, Saving.  I think we would rather keep the electricity on.
 
2013-03-12 11:10:16 AM  
Yeah, I'm getting a little tired of these "I now live in a 7 square foot room, and I'm so excited that I spend 24 hours a day sitting on my placemat/bed and masturbating furiously, content in the knowledge that I'm better than anyone else." screeds...

shiat of hands here: Who actually thinks this guy is anything special? Except for whoever gave this shiat the 'Hero' tag of course...
 
2013-03-12 11:10:20 AM  
Oh look another person who first tried to fill the void in their life with stuff and is now trying to fill the void in their life with austerity. He sounds like every borne again Christian who wants to tell me how great JESUS is. This is a very old story, but not surprisingly this self absorbed person thinks he is the first to realize this and just needs to tell everyone about it.

People like this never consider that the problem may not be with their lifestyle, it just might be that they have no clue how to live. So, they will drift from one extreme to another always looking for something external to fill that empty void, always aware that something is missing, and never looking internally for happiness.
 
2013-03-12 11:11:16 AM  
FTFA: "To top it all off, I had to keep Seven busy. "

And you complain?

chockblock.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-03-12 11:11:37 AM  
Yeah, no sh**t, money substitutes for stuff.  If you have lots of money, you don't need to always own the things you want to use in life.  Money will make things happen.  For the rest of us, we don't throw everything away simply because we don't have the pile of cash to replace it willy-nilly.
 
2013-03-12 11:11:48 AM  
and for those of us that can't afford either of his lifestyles... hang on I'll be right back I need to run to the store and get that big screen TV I've been meaning to buy for the bathroom
 
2013-03-12 11:12:51 AM  

slayer199: Hey, whatever makes you happy...but I hardly think it warrants a hero tag.


Sure it does. He's a hero to pompous douchebags everywhere.
 
2013-03-12 11:14:49 AM  
if you have resource to do something productive with, you should be putting it to use, generating more resource, and giving to charity.
 
2013-03-12 11:14:52 AM  
So, travel the world, and make that your expensive hipster vagabond carbon footprint instead of your house in Seattle?

I am curious which is more tree-huggy.

Thanks for the life lesson wealthy douche bag...
 
2013-03-12 11:15:18 AM  
TFAblah blah blah something something i don't have kids i don't have kids i don't have kids have you smelled my farts they're delicious
 
2013-03-12 11:17:26 AM  
I will believe him when he gives all his money to me.
 
2013-03-12 11:17:30 AM  
If you need anything except yourself to be content then you never will be content.

Some people don`t need to be assholes for a few decades before they realise this.
 
2013-03-12 11:18:42 AM  

Knoughah: TFA:  blah blah blah something something i don't have kids i don't have kids i don't have kids have you smelled my farts they're delicious


You sound like someone with kids who wished they didn`t have kids.
 
2013-03-12 11:18:44 AM  
 a car to insure, wash, refuel,

Holy hell.  I bet you had to gas up your car BEFORE you got all that money too!
 
2013-03-12 11:19:52 AM  

DubyaHater: I respect this man.  Most people are truly unhappy with their material possessions.  We are always trying to acquire the latest gadget and latest technology in a vain attempt to show our friends and colleagues how much money we have.  We end up in a vicious cycle of acquiring more and more meaningless possessions that end up in our attics/basements.  It's a sad life we all lead.

In the past few years, I have rejected cable for the mundane programming it provides.  I also rejected my XBox because video games do not provide positive mental stimulation.  With the loss of my cable and XBox, I discovered my television was no longer useful and I sold that on Craig's List.  Now I can properly stimulate my mind and study the world we live in.  I can sit down at a dinner table and have deep, meaningful discussions about classical music and Renaissance art.

I sold my newer automobiles with all their fancy technology for a 1995 Honda Accord that gets 25mpg.  It has a radio (for NPR) and A/C.  What more do I need?  I can buy a map at a gas station for $3 if I need directions.

Obviously most people could never understand the way I live.  Most people reject a simplistic lifestyle for fear of ridicule by their "friends".  But let me ask you, are they really your friends if they judge you by the life you lead?  Since I switched to a more ideal lifestyle, I have met people who truly accept me.  I have rejected those who live in their materialistic world.  They could never understand the pleasures I now experience.


Respect him? I'd respect him more if he had said that he stopped chasing the latest gadget, car, house, hot young thing and learned to enjoy those he had. He just went from one extreme to the other and does not seem to realize the problem does not lie with his stuff, but with himself.

You also sound like someone who is reaching for something that they don't quite understand. Who seems to want to be a deep thinker. Getting rid of your stuff is not the way to happiness, realizing that X-Boxs, TV's, Houses, Cars, etc... are just and they have a place in your life, but are not your life. You can enjoy video games and not be obssesed by them, you can have a big screen TV and not worry about it being the latest, greatest HD, 3D, Plasma monstrosity, your house can be the place you lay your head, your refuge from the world, with out needing a 10,000 dollar living room, a 20,000 dollar bathroom, etc...

Both you and this author seem to think your lifestyle is superior to everyone else's, this just makes you and him tools. Besides nobody cares, nobody really gives a shiat if you want to pretend it is the 1950's, because this makes you feel superior. We don't care, other then to point out you sound like a douche bag when you talk about your "superior" life style.
 
2013-03-12 11:22:21 AM  
This is all I thought of while reading the article and then the comments section.
thetechprblog.com

Smug writer and even more smug comments. Birds of a feather...
 
2013-03-12 11:23:07 AM  
The months I spent banging Olga in Barcelona and in Thailand changed my lifestyle too.
 
2013-03-12 11:25:03 AM  

red5ish: The months I spent banging Olga in Barcelona and in Thailand changed my lifestyle too.


But that was only because you caught "her" standing while peeing so it does not count.
 
2013-03-12 11:26:00 AM  
Look, you could give me every exquisite watch in the world, and it wouldn't make me happy for very long, because I don't really care about watches. Maybe you love watches, it doesn't make me any less of a materialistic than you.


So this guy figures out that he prefers constant world travel and beautiful European women over furniture. Congratulations asshole! What an enlightened creature you are! Your lifestyle still requires you to be wealthy, and money is material, even if it's being exchanged for experiences and plane tickets instead of luxury cars.


So, in closing, eat an entire pile of dongs, you smug motherfarker.
 
2013-03-12 11:26:25 AM  
...when I met Olga, an Andorran beauty

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2013-03-12 11:28:29 AM  
Money, sex, and air. Only important when you don't have any.
 
2013-03-12 11:29:05 AM  
An old song, just a different tenor.

www.superawesomewow.com
'You can't own things, man.'
 
2013-03-12 11:29:43 AM  
Going off subby's subject title, I assume he owns an iPhone?
 
2013-03-12 11:29:45 AM  

Pocket Ninja: His description of Olga makes me think his life trajectory is actually closer to something like this:


you sound bitter...
*ducks*
 
2013-03-12 11:32:46 AM  

St_Francis_P: Mugato: So when was he the bigger pompous asshole, when he had a lot of shiat or now that he's a minimalist? Or is it about even?

In both cases he was a bigger pompous asshole than the other. It's a paradox.


A rich guy complaining about being rich?

Fark him.
 
2013-03-12 11:34:45 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: Generation_D: Pocket Ninja: His description of Olga makes me think his life trajectory is actually closer to something like this:

1) Guy makes a lot of money, is happy, buys lots of crap he doesn't need.
2) Guy meets girl who's very different from the normal, vapid, airheaded, money-grubbing girls he normally meets. She travels places he's never been, listens to bands he's never heard of, is shockingly open about how much she enjoys sex, and constantly talks about how she doesn't care about money.
3) "Doesn't care about money" actually translates to "doesn't have money," but regardless of that fact she has learned that life can be experienced, gripped by the teeth, so to speak, by befriending people who do have it.
4) Girl who doesn't care about/have money and guy who has money and wants to keep farking girl go on trip together to gritty but safe third world destination. He sees gritty things, like people bathing in rivers. Girl has a copy of "Lonely Planet" that they use to find authentic local restaurants filled with backpack-toting Americans.
5) Guy begins to believe girl's message that money is unimportant, despite the fact that he is paying for everything. He begins to question his previous values. She encourages him, sometimes while out shopping.
6) They return home. Guy announces plans to change his lifestyle, downsize, become less material.
7) Girl dumps him.

The rest is fallout. Anyway, it's just one theory.

And it goes without saying she's the stereotypical MPDG.

Great summary, you should write romantic comedies.

It just needs a snappy, yet wistful, title.


Sweet November.
 
2013-03-12 11:35:57 AM  
I ain't sayin' she's a gold-digger,
But you don't see her livin' in no 420 ft2 apartment!

/fish-stdicks
 
2013-03-12 11:36:17 AM  
jayhawk88:  audiophile-worthy five-disc CD player. And, of course, a black turbocharged Volvo. With a remote starter!

Whoa! Slow down there, Bill Gates. A  FIVE DISC CD player!?!?!


It is the Audiophile piece that gets expensive.
It probably had acoustically tuned wooden knobs, the tray balanced on spindles made of spider webs, and plugged into a solid state noise reduction outlet (which required rewiring the whole house if he did it 'right').
 
2013-03-12 11:36:53 AM  

Pocket Ninja: 6) They return home. Guy announces plans to change his lifestyle, downsize, become less material.

The rest is fallout. Anyway, it's just one theory.


I know exactly how this part goes. I have no desire to ever pick up another empty Nuka Cola bottle.
 
2013-03-12 11:37:58 AM  
Typical Farkers. He IS better than most of you. He's better than me.
Just accept simple facts and try to learn from them.
Don't be small and bitter...
 
2013-03-12 11:40:22 AM  

Full Blown Jimbo: Okay, I stopped twitching long enough to read more carefully. He only ripped off Palahniuk once, and it wasn't a direct quote. Still, he ripped him off and some people who read this crap will think he's SO clever. Ass.


Curious, what was the Chuck Palahniuk quote?
 
2013-03-12 11:41:59 AM  

cr7pilot: "flush with cash from an Internet start-up sale "
"not everyone gets an Internet windfall before turning 30 "
"more money than I thought I'd earn in a lifetime. "
"not everyone gets a windfall from a tech start-up sale. "
Did he mention that he made a lot of money?
I love it when rich people tell me how to live with less...


Did he mention he made a bunch of money which made him superior? I may have missed that.

quickdraw: From TFA "My life was unnecessarily complicated. There were lawns to mow, gutters to clear, floors to vacuum, roommates to manage (it seemed nuts to have such a big, empty house) "

I think I see your problem.


WTF is up with this?  Roommates in Seattle and Soho.  Lived by myself for several years until Mrs Carter and the little Carters came along.  In my darkest most cash strapped hours never ever contemplated a roommate.   He is just an idiot
 
2013-03-12 11:43:10 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: "Money isn't important! Taking a couple of years off to travel around the world with your closest friends is what's important!"


I dated a trust funder---a guy who never worked a day in his life and was unlikely to ever need to---who thought this way.  He was always traveling, always taking pictures.  He couldn't understand that I couldn't just drop everything in my life (read: job and school) and travel with him whenever he wanted.   Even when I was working just-barely-above-minimum-wage jobs without any benefits, he'd say things like "just use some vacation days."

\no surprise: it didn't work out
 
2013-03-12 11:43:26 AM  

Joe Blowme: red5ish: The months I spent banging Olga in Barcelona and in Thailand changed my lifestyle too.

But that was only because you caught "her" standing while peeing so it does not count.


It was a shocker, but it did explain why "she" was so enthusiastic about "Andoran" sex.
 
2013-03-12 11:44:46 AM  

doubled99: Typical Farkers. He IS better than most of you. He's better than me.
Just accept simple facts and try to learn from them.
Don't be small and bitter...


Ah, Worthington's Law.
 
2013-03-12 11:46:23 AM  

sigdiamond2000: You know, between this and the Slate article yesterday by the allergic woman bragging about pestering a grieving mother at a wake about the peanut content of the food, I'm really starting to wonder whether these supposedly legitimate web sites/newspapers are purposely publishing stuff they know is trollish just for page hits.

I mean, I can't imagine more than 3% of the population not wanting to punch this guy in the face after reading this article. They have to realize that, right?


THIS.  I'm typically non-violent but this self-absorbed douche needs a punch to the throat.

Quote: "Aside from my travel habit - which I try to keep in check by minimizing trips, combining trips and purchasing carbon offsets - I feel better that my carbon footprint is significantly smaller than in my previous supersized life."

If only we could all have the time to stress about our carbon footprint.  He reminds me of every hill staffer/intern that I've ever met in DC.
 
2013-03-12 11:46:47 AM  

dready zim: Knoughah: TFA:  blah blah blah something something i don't have kids i don't have kids i don't have kids have you smelled my farts they're delicious

You sound like someone with kids who wished they didn`t have kids.


You've got the first part right. Not so much the second. My point is that "stuff" doesn't take over your life as much as kids do. And that once they do, the kind of Tyler-Durden-lite sentiment espoused by the writer becomes mostly irrelevant. It is simply not about you after you have kids.
 
2013-03-12 11:47:01 AM  

DubyaHater: I respect this man.  Most people are truly unhappy with their material possessions.  We are always trying to acquire the latest gadget and latest technology in a vain attempt to show our friends and colleagues how much money we have.  We end up in a vicious cycle of acquiring more and more meaningless possessions that end up in our attics/basements.  It's a sad life we all lead.

In the past few years, I have rejected cable for the mundane programming it provides.  I also rejected my XBox because video games do not provide positive mental stimulation.  With the loss of my cable and XBox, I discovered my television was no longer useful and I sold that on Craig's List.  Now I can properly stimulate my mind and study the world we live in.  I can sit down at a dinner table and have deep, meaningful discussions about classical music and Renaissance art.

I sold my newer automobiles with all their fancy technology for a 1995 Honda Accord that gets 25mpg.  It has a radio (for NPR) and A/C.  What more do I need?  I can buy a map at a gas station for $3 if I need directions.

Obviously most people could never understand the way I live.  Most people reject a simplistic lifestyle for fear of ridicule by their "friends".  But let me ask you, are they really your friends if they judge you by the life you lead?  Since I switched to a more ideal lifestyle, I have met people who truly accept me.  I have rejected those who live in their materialistic world.  They could never understand the pleasures I now experience.


It seems the problem here (and with King Douchenozzle in the original article) is that y'all never learned how to moderate or be picky. If you it isn't useful or enjoyable (or, preferably, both), don't buy it. It isn't "we" who live in a vicious cycle - it was you. Most people don't live like that - they have family and religion and hobbies and work that fill that void to overflowing. Don't generalize your experience here - not everyone is, has been, or will be a member of the cult of more.

Also, do you know how much information and art you are giving up without television or, for that matter, video games? We are living in an age of complex and innovative culture in a never-ending feed. Even if you only use it for movies and documentaries and news, you are removing a crucial portal to the world at large and an incredibly useful tool.

I could never be a minimalist. I need a decent sized place just to store my books, videos, wife, and German Shepherd mutt. Also a decent kitchen. Don't these people cook?
 
2013-03-12 11:47:07 AM  

DubyaHater: I respect this man...


Our stories have a lot in common.  I was like this man once.  I was born into a rich family, my father and I traveled all over the world for business.  While in China my father was murdered and I was taken in by a local shaolin monastery to be taught the ways of Kung-fu.  I thought my life made sense then ... I was happy.  But before long, the nephew of the Chinese Emperor killed my master, and, in a fit of rage, I broke my vows and abandoned the values that my Master held dear by killing the nephew right back.  Now I wander the American West, taking what work comes and continue my Master's legacy.  My life is finally full, I enjoy the simple pleasures: learning life's lessons and teaching them to others, the satisfaction of overcoming obstacles in my way, and the gentle art of auto-erotic asphyxiation.

It is truly a beautiful world.
 
2013-03-12 11:47:40 AM  

jayhawk88: To celebrate, I bought a four-story, 3,600-square-foot, turn-of-the-century house in Seattle's happening Capitol Hill neighborhood and, in a frenzy of consumption, bought a brand-new sectional couch (my first ever), a pair of $300 sunglasses, a ton of gadgets, like an Audible.com MobilePlayer (one of the first portable digital music players) and an audiophile-worthy five-disc CD player. And, of course, a black turbocharged Volvo. With a remote starter!

Whoa! Slow down there, Bill Gates. A  FIVE DISC CD player!?!?!

Jesus, I think I won one of these at my after-prom party in '91.


I bought a stereo system back in '87 that had a 6 DISC changer.
 
2013-03-12 11:48:56 AM  
Don't you just gotta LOL when self-centered douchebags like this clown try to put a spin on their failures in life? Who's he think he's kidding?

So, it's now cool to be with less. Has nothing to do with you losing your shirt because of the economy. You want to show how cool you are by being "restrained". Suuuuuuuuuuuure!
 
2013-03-12 11:50:17 AM  

red5ish: Joe Blowme: red5ish: The months I spent banging Olga in Barcelona and in Thailand changed my lifestyle too.

But that was only because you caught "her" standing while peeing so it does not count.

It was a shocker, but it did explain why "she" was so enthusiastic about "Andoran" sex.


Was it blue in the middle too?
 
2013-03-12 11:51:04 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: Respect him? I'd respect him more if he had said that he stopped chasing the latest gadget, car, house, hot young thing and learned to enjoy those he had. He just went from one extreme to the other and does not seem to realize the problem does not lie with his stuff, but with himself.


This was my thought, too. I neither want nor need to be told how 'materialistic' I am. The things I have in my life I have for a reason. When I buy something new, I've already considered if and how it fits my lifestyle, and have chosen accordingly.

No doubt there are people who have different lives and needs, and can make do with less. Bully for them, but they are not me. They cannot chose for me, nor speak for what I need in my life. If they presume they can without recognizing that difference, they are not superior to me, but inferior, by dint of being less tolerant.
 
2013-03-12 11:51:39 AM  
HAHA.

Reminds me of my ex-wife.
She lived a 'minimalist' lifestyle (depression era really) and was on my case constantly about how much money I was spending. Finally, I stopped caring and said, I am taking the kids on a vacation and I am going to start socializing even if it cost gas money.

So, she left me. She felt I did not understand her needs and I was way to materialistic.
She claimed she would not ask anything of me, as she could make do just fine.

UNTIL... (da da dummm) she moved out and TRIED living on her own.
Then she realized it cost MONEY to live, commute, and be a member of society and not a house hermit.
She briefly tried to reconcile, no thanks, and that mantra of not requiring anything of me turned into a cry-fest at the courts and me paying child support.

So much more minimalist living when someone else (or internet windfall) is not there to seamlessly pay the bills.
 
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