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(The New York Times)   To summarize: "I once owned lots of cool stuff, much more than you. Then I started to experience life in a way you never will. Now, I reject materialism and live a deep, thoughtful life. Yes, I'm better than you, but maybe you can learn from me"   (nytimes.com) divider line 299
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2013-03-12 10:43:41 AM  
Yeah subby the guy comes off as a douche... but... I am not rich like this guy was/is but yet at times I have these same feelings about the stuff I own. It often seems like more of a hassle than anything. When you are middle class it is even worse because repairs or maintenance or replacing your stuff is more of a financial hardship than for this guy.
 
2013-03-12 10:44:05 AM  

sigdiamond2000: Mugato: sigdiamond2000: You know, between this and the Slate article yesterday by the allergic woman bragging about pestering a grieving mother at a wake about the peanut content of the food, I'm really starting to wonder whether these supposedly legitimate web sites/newspapers are purposely publishing stuff they know is trollish just for page hits.

You don't think there really are people like this? I know there are. I've spotted them in the wild.

I can't imagine more than 3% of the population not wanting to punch this guy in the face after reading this article. They have to realize that, right?

They never realize it.

I know people like this exist. I know some of these kinds of people. Whenever they leave the room, everyone talks about what assholes they are. Sometimes they don't even wait until they leave the room.

As out of touch as the Northeastern elite may be, I find it very hard to believe that the NYT didn't realize that they were publishing a story that was going to generate almost nothing but hate for this f*ckstick.


Yes they are trolling and they don't like this guy either.

The ancient Greeks avoided fame and the sin of hubris at all costs. Why? Because it would bring attention from the Gods and nothing good ever came from that kind of attention. I did not understand that fully until the invention of the internet.
 
2013-03-12 10:45:19 AM  
Hero tag?  Really?
 
2013-03-12 10:46:12 AM  
My sister was like this. Constantly espoused the mantra "money isn't important". Now that my mother has stopped footing her bills, my sister has been remarkable silent on the subject.

There's nothing wrong with "decluttering". But anyone who describes themselves as a "minimalist" needs a "maximalist" cock-punch.

I've yet to come across a "minimalist" on the internet who wasn't selling something.
 
2013-03-12 10:46:55 AM  
I was going to brag about how much more minimalist I am than this guy but then I thought it would be even more minimalist if I said nothing.

But that's boring so I said this.

/metaminimal
 
2013-03-12 10:47:30 AM  
Holy crap.  We have a new nominee for worst person in the world.  This is perhaps the world most self-absorbed person.  Why did this get published?  Did this guy think "there are a still a few people who don't know how great I am, I better publish it in the NYT"?

Summary: "I'm so rich that I can do whatever I want and don't have to care about money so now I do whatever I want and don't care about money.  But I want make sure everyone knows how rich and brilliant I am."
 
2013-03-12 10:47:42 AM  
Being broke and just scraping by: It's the new black.
 
2013-03-12 10:48:13 AM  
I once thought that I could be happy without owning stuff, but it turned out I was just poor. I'm still poor, but now I'm poor enough to afford stuff that I can actually enjoy.
 
2013-03-12 10:48:18 AM  
www.mytripjournal.com

Retired, with the kids gone, this is our home, 240 square feet. We love it, you know where all your stuff is, and I wouldn't go back to living in a regular house. Sometimes, I'll wake upnot know where the heck I am, and have to look out the window, or go out and walk around. Great feeling.
 
2013-03-12 10:49:03 AM  
A guy named "Seven?"

George Costanza is gonna be pissed.
 
2013-03-12 10:50:08 AM  
Fark you, wanker. I like my shiat and I am keeping it.
 
2013-03-12 10:50:20 AM  
What a tool. I've been traveling and living out of my rucksack for years, which is way more minimalist than this guy. I'm happy that way, that's why I do it, but it's a personal choice, and it's no better or worse than my siblings who own houses, have lots of kids, etc. This guy must really suck to have at parties.
 
2013-03-12 10:50:31 AM  
 
2013-03-12 10:50:33 AM  
bet i have less than THAT guy
 
2013-03-12 10:50:52 AM  

Barfmaker: It's pronounced "doosh" but it's not spelled like that.


Unless you live in Rhode Island.
 
2013-03-12 10:51:09 AM  

GiantRex: Pocket Ninja: His description of Olga makes me think his life trajectory is actually closer to something like this:

1) Guy makes a lot of money, is happy, buys lots of crap he doesn't need.
2) Guy meets girl who's very different from the normal, vapid, airheaded, money-grubbing girls he normally meets. She travels places he's never been, listens to bands he's never heard of, is shockingly open about how much she enjoys sex, and constantly talks about how she doesn't care about money.
3) "Doesn't care about money" actually translates to "doesn't have money," but regardless of that fact she has learned that life can be experienced, gripped by the teeth, so to speak, by befriending people who do have it.
4) Girl who doesn't care about/have money and guy who has money and wants to keep farking girl go on trip together to gritty but safe third world destination. He sees gritty things, like people bathing in rivers. Girl has a copy of "Lonely Planet" that they use to find authentic local restaurants filled with backpack-toting Americans.
5) Guy begins to believe girl's message that money is unimportant, despite the fact that he is paying for everything. He begins to question his previous values. She encourages him, sometimes while out shopping.
6) They return home. Guy announces plans to change his lifestyle, downsize, become less material.
7) Girl dumps him.

The rest is fallout. Anyway, it's just one theory.

Don't let Hollywood see this, or we'll be seeing a trailer for the movie by the end of the year.


Un Chienne Andalou?
 
2013-03-12 10:51:14 AM  

planes: Sometimes, I'll wake upnot know where the heck I am, and have to look out the window, or go out and walk around. Great feeling.


Preparing for Alzheimer's?
 
2013-03-12 10:51:16 AM  

WanPhat: Holy crap.  We have a new nominee for worst person in the world.  This is perhaps the world most self-absorbed person.


I am heading to the gym in 26 minutes!
 
2013-03-12 10:52:04 AM  
Why is it that "minimalist" bloggers always seem to have the very latest MacBook Pro? A true minimalist writer would use a pen and a paper notebook, not some overly complicated, technologically advanced device.
 
2013-03-12 10:53:16 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: "Money isn't important! Taking a couple of years off to travel around the world with your closest friends is what's important!"


Exactly.

Look, travel adventures are my #1 favorite thing in life and I wouldn't trade those experiences for all the money in the world, blah blah blah. No question about it. But I make no pretense about it, either... travel is a goddamned expensive hobby. And the farther you go, the pricier it can be.

This guy's story in a nutshell: "I used to be a complete and utter twat with first-world problems out the ass. Now, I believe I have fewer first-world problems but I'm still a clueless DeutscheBank."
 
2013-03-12 10:53:23 AM  
Zen Buddhism basically.  This philosophy is nothing new.  What I think really happened is this guy really liked the movie "Fight Club" and wanted to be Tyler Durden.  His transformation and the release of that movie happened at about the same time.
 
2013-03-12 10:53:28 AM  
Needs a douchebag tag
 
2013-03-12 10:54:40 AM  
To celebrate, I bought a four-story, 3,600-square-foot, turn-of-the-century house in Seattle's happening Capitol Hill neighborhood and, in a frenzy of consumption, bought a brand-new sectional couch (my first ever), a pair of $300 sunglasses, a ton of gadgets, like an Audible.com MobilePlayer (one of the first portable digital music players) and an audiophile-worthy five-disc CD player. And, of course, a black turbocharged Volvo. With a remote starter!

Whoa! Slow down there, Bill Gates. A  FIVE DISC CD player!?!?!

Jesus, I think I won one of these at my after-prom party in '91.
 
2013-03-12 10:54:59 AM  
Self-absorbed hipster without children.

Children
 
2013-03-12 10:55:21 AM  
If only there was a middle ground between living like a penniless hippie and needing to buy everything you see.

"And, of course, a black turbocharged Volvo. " - also you're doing it wrong
 
2013-03-12 10:55:38 AM  
He quoted Chuck Palahniuk several times, and didn't mention it. Does plagiarism not count in shiatty blog posts?
 
2013-03-12 10:57:45 AM  

Smackledorfer: I have a boat.

I think I will keep it, materialism be damned.

Also some rods, multiple types of boots, a bicycle, a shotgun, some patio furniture, a grill, a firepit, and will be getting a kayak.

Might even try windsurfing this summer.

If only I had the money to experience those activities without owning stuff?



You sound like fun
 
2013-03-12 10:59:12 AM  
My wife, 11-month old girl, and I just downsized due to economic and personal reasons.  We went from living in a 4 bedroom house to a 2 bedroom condo in a remote, inexpensive area.  Yeah, I am not as rich as the author of the article, but we had two decent incomes so were able to buy a second place a few years ago, which really saved us when my wife had to leave her term-limited federal job.  Also, my work is great for letting me work remotely, from anywhere.

As for downsizing, the whole process worked out great.  We donated a lot of sundries and old furniture to various charities, gave away a lot to family and friends, and sold some items for cash (old bikes sell surprisingly well on Craigslist).  My wife did a tremendous job of paring done a lot (our basement was a junkyard), so she really deserves the credit - I just was the packmule that moved things around.  We still have a ton of things that we need to store, mostly things that we either just couldn't part with (family heirlooms mostly), or stuff we use but can't fit in the condo (camping gear, etc).  We'll spend some time really sorting, to make another cut.

It will be an interesting experiment.  Since we are renting out the house (mostly because we put so much $ into it and wouldn't have made much in profit from a sale), we can always sell in a year or more, and buy a bigger place in the remote, inexpensive area. Or, move back to the original house, if my wife gets a job back there.

The author still sounds like a pretentious twat.  But, I do agree with his overall theory.
 
2013-03-12 10:59:24 AM  
I really, really want to punch that guy.
 
2013-03-12 10:59:30 AM  

Pumpernickel bread: What I think really happened is this guy really liked the movie "Fight Club" and wanted to be Tyler Durden. His transformation and the release of that movie happened at about the same time.


Full Blown Jimbo: He quoted Chuck Palahniuk several times, and didn't mention it.


You guys are onto something, imo.
 
2013-03-12 10:59:41 AM  
IT'S CALLED DIVORCE MOTHERFARKER!!!!
 
2013-03-12 11:00:16 AM  
Lol, some people aren't cut out to handle modern life.  They must avoid much of reality in order to keep their fragile sanity in place.  And some people have an irrational fear of dogs or guns.  I'm not laughing at any of them.  They have issues they cannot control and deserve no less respect because of it.  Unless they write an article trying to draw others into their world of madness.  Then it just becomes sad.  Like a drowning man trying to drag his rescuer down with him.  But not intentionally.  Just out of reflex.  Misery loves company.
 
2013-03-12 11:00:20 AM  
I'm generally of the belief that someone so "enlightened" realizes that life is not a "one size fits all" scenario.

So the end result of two pages of published media is that a smug asshole is really just a smug asshole.

No, that's not accurate.  It's more like smug asshole is a smug asshole who got to see the world.

*shrugs*
 
2013-03-12 11:00:58 AM  

planes: [www.mytripjournal.com image 643x480]

Retired, with the kids gone, this is our home, 240 square feet. We love it, you know where all your stuff is, and I wouldn't go back to living in a regular house. Sometimes, I'll wake upnot know where the heck I am, and have to look out the window, or go out and walk around. Great feeling.


Jumping jesus, talk about small carbon footprint .. whats that thing get, 2 mpg?
 
2013-03-12 11:00:58 AM  

impaler: planes: Sometimes, I'll wake upnot know where the heck I am, and have to look out the window, or go out and walk around. Great feeling.

Preparing for Alzheimer's?


That was me during most of my early 20's.  But for different reasons.
 
2013-03-12 11:01:04 AM  
"To celebrate, I bought a four-story, 3,600-square-foot, turn-of-the-century house in Seattle's happening Capitol Hill neighborhood and, in a frenzy of consumption, bought a brand-new sectional couch (my first ever), a pair of $300 sunglasses, a ton of gadgets, like an Audible.com MobilePlayer (one of the first portable digital music players) and an audiophile-worthy five-disc CD player. And, of course, a black turbocharged Volvo. With a remote starter!"

"My hand-blown green glass dishes with the tiny bubbles and imperfections, proof they were crafted by the honest, simple, hard-working indigenous peoples of wherever."
 
2013-03-12 11:01:08 AM  
Isn't this the dictionary definition of "affluenza."  Ever hear a poor person say; "You know what man, I tried living with all that food... but life was just too complicated."
 
2013-03-12 11:01:20 AM  
I can kid of relate to what the article is about.  I used to have a three bedroom house filled with crap.  I took a job in New York and had to condense all that crap into a 230 SF apartment (not a typo).  I gave away pretty much everything except a couch, bed, dresser, dishes, clothes, TV and stereo.  Living that way really is much less complicated.  Cleaning takes almost no time, impulse shopping goes away since there's no room to put anything.  Of course, that was 12 years ago.  Now I have a five bedroom house and a bunch of kids and I'm right back to having wall to wall shiat piled up.  To quote a guy from Carcraft magazine "I don't have a retirement, but I have a lot of memories".
 
2013-03-12 11:01:20 AM  

Smackledorfer: I have a boat.

I think I will keep it, materialism be damned.

Also some rods, multiple types of boots, a bicycle, a shotgun, some patio furniture, a grill, a firepit, and will be getting a kayak.

Might even try windsurfing this summer.

If only I had the money to experience those activities without owning stuff?


How many of those to the hogshead?
 
2013-03-12 11:02:00 AM  

Full Blown Jimbo: He quoted Chuck Palahniuk several times, and didn't mention it. Does plagiarism not count in shiatty blog posts?


Okay, I stopped twitching long enough to read more carefully. He only ripped off Palahniuk once, and it wasn't a direct quote. Still, he ripped him off and some people who read this crap will think he's SO clever. Ass.
 
2013-03-12 11:02:07 AM  
But he makes ceramic mugs and purchases carbon offsets, so it's good.
 
2013-03-12 11:02:40 AM  

Ambitwistor: "It Would Be Great if Millionaires Didn't Lecture Us on 'Living With Less'"


That's farking awesome
 
2013-03-12 11:02:59 AM  
I LIVE in a 420-square-foot studio. I sleep in a bed that folds down from the wall. I have six dress shirts. I have 10 shallow bowls that I use for salads and main dishes. When people come over for dinner, I pull out my extendable dining room table. I don't have a single CD or DVD and I have 10 percent of the books I once did.

I love when a description of my life is viewed as slumming.

Though I do have a one bedroom with a real bed. BOOYAH
 
2013-03-12 11:03:12 AM  
Someone call Tobias Funke, we need an analrapist for this man.
 
2013-03-12 11:03:41 AM  

Voiceofreason01: If only there was a middle ground between living like a penniless hippie and needing to buy everything you see.

"And, of course, a black turbocharged Volvo. " - also you're doing it wrong


And he's bragging about it ??!!!
 
2013-03-12 11:04:27 AM  
Maybe this guy should consider getting married and having a family. He clearly is searching for meaning, but still hasn't found it.
 
2013-03-12 11:05:36 AM  
I respect this man.  Most people are truly unhappy with their material possessions.  We are always trying to acquire the latest gadget and latest technology in a vain attempt to show our friends and colleagues how much money we have.  We end up in a vicious cycle of acquiring more and more meaningless possessions that end up in our attics/basements.  It's a sad life we all lead.

In the past few years, I have rejected cable for the mundane programming it provides.  I also rejected my XBox because video games do not provide positive mental stimulation.  With the loss of my cable and XBox, I discovered my television was no longer useful and I sold that on Craig's List.  Now I can properly stimulate my mind and study the world we live in.  I can sit down at a dinner table and have deep, meaningful discussions about classical music and Renaissance art.

I sold my newer automobiles with all their fancy technology for a 1995 Honda Accord that gets 25mpg.  It has a radio (for NPR) and A/C.  What more do I need?  I can buy a map at a gas station for $3 if I need directions.

Obviously most people could never understand the way I live.  Most people reject a simplistic lifestyle for fear of ridicule by their "friends".  But let me ask you, are they really your friends if they judge you by the life you lead?  Since I switched to a more ideal lifestyle, I have met people who truly accept me.  I have rejected those who live in their materialistic world.  They could never understand the pleasures I now experience.
 
2013-03-12 11:05:47 AM  
I love these two quotes:

"The relationship with Olga eventually ended..."

My guess is she dumped him because he didn't have any stuff and was an intolerable douche.

"I wouldn't trade a second spent wandering the streets of Bangkok with Olga for anything I've owned."

Instead he traded a relationship with this person because he doesn't own anything.
 
2013-03-12 11:06:04 AM  
Oh, cool. Let me just get rich off a couple of internet windfalls then I can go kick around Europe and Asia for a few years.  You know, really get to know myself, live the minimalist lifestyle.  Everyone should do this.  Oh wait. Food, shelter, and travel costs money? Everyone should just have an internet windfall or two and get rich. Duh.

Oh, get an internet windfall? Just get an internet windfall? Why don't I strap on my internet windfall helmet and squeeze down into an internet windfall cannon and fire off into internet windfall land, where internet windfalls grow on little internet windfallies?!

/internet windfall
//douche
 
2013-03-12 11:06:35 AM  

Generation_D: So an attention whore narcissist who no longer got enough reward for buying things, decides to go the other extreme, and wants attention for not buying things.

Woop de woop.

Next up: he starts a religion.


THIS!!!!!!
 
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