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(The New York Times)   To summarize: "I once owned lots of cool stuff, much more than you. Then I started to experience life in a way you never will. Now, I reject materialism and live a deep, thoughtful life. Yes, I'm better than you, but maybe you can learn from me"   (nytimes.com) divider line 299
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2013-03-12 09:14:12 AM  
From TFA "My life was unnecessarily complicated. There were lawns to mow, gutters to clear, floors to vacuum, roommates to manage (it seemed nuts to have such a big, empty house) "

I think I see your problem.
 
2013-03-12 09:14:54 AM  
I'm pretty happy with my materialistic lifestyle.
 
2013-03-12 09:15:25 AM  

RexTalionis: I'm pretty happy with my materialistic lifestyle.

 
2013-03-12 09:16:07 AM  
Let me take all the cluttery words out of your article.

"I once hired a personal shopper.  This was clearly a stupid thing to do."
 
2013-03-12 09:18:43 AM  

RexTalionis: I'm pretty unhappy with my non-materialistic lifestyle.


ftfm
 
2013-03-12 09:19:08 AM  
Gosh he easily walked away from a bunch of crap that held no meaning for him in the first place. How evolved of him.
 
2013-03-12 09:20:13 AM  
So when was he the bigger pompous asshole, when he had a lot of shiat or now that he's a minimalist? Or is it about even?
 
2013-03-12 09:28:16 AM  
i286.photobucket.com
 
2013-03-12 09:29:14 AM  

Mugato: So when was he the bigger pompous asshole, when he had a lot of shiat or now that he's a minimalist? Or is it about even?


In both cases he was a bigger pompous asshole than the other. It's a paradox.
 
2013-03-12 09:33:47 AM  
So I hired a guy named Seven, who said he had been Courtney Love's assistant, to be my personal shopper.

I wouldn't trade a second spent wandering the streets of Bangkok with Olga for anything I've owned.


i45.tinypic.com
 
2013-03-12 09:34:52 AM  
I'm lucky, obviously; not everyone gets a windfall from a tech start-up sale. But I'm not the only one whose life is cluttered with excess belongings.

Life in the animal kingdom can be brutal. How does he cope?
 
2013-03-12 09:35:48 AM  
So, what I'm gathering here is that one really can't change their spots; is that correct?
 
2013-03-12 09:35:48 AM  
His description of Olga makes me think his life trajectory is actually closer to something like this:

1) Guy makes a lot of money, is happy, buys lots of crap he doesn't need.
2) Guy meets girl who's very different from the normal, vapid, airheaded, money-grubbing girls he normally meets. She travels places he's never been, listens to bands he's never heard of, is shockingly open about how much she enjoys sex, and constantly talks about how she doesn't care about money.
3) "Doesn't care about money" actually translates to "doesn't have money," but regardless of that fact she has learned that life can be experienced, gripped by the teeth, so to speak, by befriending people who do have it.
4) Girl who doesn't care about/have money and guy who has money and wants to keep farking girl go on trip together to gritty but safe third world destination. He sees gritty things, like people bathing in rivers. Girl has a copy of "Lonely Planet" that they use to find authentic local restaurants filled with backpack-toting Americans.
5) Guy begins to believe girl's message that money is unimportant, despite the fact that he is paying for everything. He begins to question his previous values. She encourages him, sometimes while out shopping.
6) They return home. Guy announces plans to change his lifestyle, downsize, become less material.
7) Girl dumps him.

The rest is fallout. Anyway, it's just one theory.
 
2013-03-12 09:36:37 AM  
So an attention whore narcissist who no longer got enough reward for buying things, decides to go the other extreme, and wants attention for not buying things.

Woop de woop.

Next up: he starts a religion.
 
2013-03-12 09:36:47 AM  
 I gave up empty, meaningless people who tell me about their insignificant lifestyle choices, and I've never felt better about myself.
 
2013-03-12 09:40:05 AM  

Pocket Ninja: His description of Olga makes me think his life trajectory is actually closer to something like this:

1) Guy makes a lot of money, is happy, buys lots of crap he doesn't need.
2) Guy meets girl who's very different from the normal, vapid, airheaded, money-grubbing girls he normally meets. She travels places he's never been, listens to bands he's never heard of, is shockingly open about how much she enjoys sex, and constantly talks about how she doesn't care about money.
3) "Doesn't care about money" actually translates to "doesn't have money," but regardless of that fact she has learned that life can be experienced, gripped by the teeth, so to speak, by befriending people who do have it.
4) Girl who doesn't care about/have money and guy who has money and wants to keep farking girl go on trip together to gritty but safe third world destination. He sees gritty things, like people bathing in rivers. Girl has a copy of "Lonely Planet" that they use to find authentic local restaurants filled with backpack-toting Americans.
5) Guy begins to believe girl's message that money is unimportant, despite the fact that he is paying for everything. He begins to question his previous values. She encourages him, sometimes while out shopping.
6) They return home. Guy announces plans to change his lifestyle, downsize, become less material.
7) Girl dumps him.

The rest is fallout. Anyway, it's just one theory.


Don't let Hollywood see this, or we'll be seeing a trailer for the movie by the end of the year.
 
2013-03-12 09:41:03 AM  
The one single, common trait of all self-help gurus, minimalist living scolds, life coaches, "professional organizers," or any other fraudster of the multi-billion dollar personal improvement industry is this: They're all rich.

Anyone who breathlessly spews dime-store bullsh*t like "money doesn't buy happiness" has never been poor, and anyone who says stuff like "the best things in life aren't things" owns a sh*tload of things.
 
2013-03-12 09:41:34 AM  

Pocket Ninja: His description of Olga makes me think his life trajectory is actually closer to something like this:

1) Guy makes a lot of money, is happy, buys lots of crap he doesn't need.
2) Guy meets girl who's very different from the normal, vapid, airheaded, money-grubbing girls he normally meets. She travels places he's never been, listens to bands he's never heard of, is shockingly open about how much she enjoys sex, and constantly talks about how she doesn't care about money.
3) "Doesn't care about money" actually translates to "doesn't have money," but regardless of that fact she has learned that life can be experienced, gripped by the teeth, so to speak, by befriending people who do have it.
4) Girl who doesn't care about/have money and guy who has money and wants to keep farking girl go on trip together to gritty but safe third world destination. He sees gritty things, like people bathing in rivers. Girl has a copy of "Lonely Planet" that they use to find authentic local restaurants filled with backpack-toting Americans.
5) Guy begins to believe girl's message that money is unimportant, despite the fact that he is paying for everything. He begins to question his previous values. She encourages him, sometimes while out shopping.
6) They return home. Guy announces plans to change his lifestyle, downsize, become less material.
7) Girl dumps him.

The rest is fallout. Anyway, it's just one theory.


And it goes without saying she's the stereotypical MPDG.

Great summary, you should write romantic comedies.
 
2013-03-12 09:44:26 AM  
The difficulty here is deciding which is more pompous. The author or the commenters agreeing with him?
 
2013-03-12 09:44:49 AM  

Generation_D: Pocket Ninja: His description of Olga makes me think his life trajectory is actually closer to something like this:

1) Guy makes a lot of money, is happy, buys lots of crap he doesn't need.
2) Guy meets girl who's very different from the normal, vapid, airheaded, money-grubbing girls he normally meets. She travels places he's never been, listens to bands he's never heard of, is shockingly open about how much she enjoys sex, and constantly talks about how she doesn't care about money.
3) "Doesn't care about money" actually translates to "doesn't have money," but regardless of that fact she has learned that life can be experienced, gripped by the teeth, so to speak, by befriending people who do have it.
4) Girl who doesn't care about/have money and guy who has money and wants to keep farking girl go on trip together to gritty but safe third world destination. He sees gritty things, like people bathing in rivers. Girl has a copy of "Lonely Planet" that they use to find authentic local restaurants filled with backpack-toting Americans.
5) Guy begins to believe girl's message that money is unimportant, despite the fact that he is paying for everything. He begins to question his previous values. She encourages him, sometimes while out shopping.
6) They return home. Guy announces plans to change his lifestyle, downsize, become less material.
7) Girl dumps him.

The rest is fallout. Anyway, it's just one theory.

And it goes without saying she's the stereotypical MPDG.

Great summary, you should write romantic comedies.


It just needs a snappy, yet wistful, title.
 
2013-03-12 09:45:09 AM  

Mugato: So when was he the bigger pompous asshole, when he had a lot of shiat or now that he's a minimalist? Or is it about even?


It's a toss-up.
 
2013-03-12 09:46:25 AM  

GiantRex: Don't let Hollywood see this, or we'll be seeing a trailer for the movie by the end of the year.


Get Michael Cera on the horn, stat.

/or is it Cena?
//the monotone, self deprecating douchebag
///not the wrestler
 
2013-03-12 09:48:22 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: Generation_D: Pocket Ninja: His description of Olga makes me think his life trajectory is actually closer to something like this:

1) Guy makes a lot of money, is happy, buys lots of crap he doesn't need.
2) Guy meets girl who's very different from the normal, vapid, airheaded, money-grubbing girls he normally meets. She travels places he's never been, listens to bands he's never heard of, is shockingly open about how much she enjoys sex, and constantly talks about how she doesn't care about money.
3) "Doesn't care about money" actually translates to "doesn't have money," but regardless of that fact she has learned that life can be experienced, gripped by the teeth, so to speak, by befriending people who do have it.
4) Girl who doesn't care about/have money and guy who has money and wants to keep farking girl go on trip together to gritty but safe third world destination. He sees gritty things, like people bathing in rivers. Girl has a copy of "Lonely Planet" that they use to find authentic local restaurants filled with backpack-toting Americans.
5) Guy begins to believe girl's message that money is unimportant, despite the fact that he is paying for everything. He begins to question his previous values. She encourages him, sometimes while out shopping.
6) They return home. Guy announces plans to change his lifestyle, downsize, become less material.
7) Girl dumps him.

The rest is fallout. Anyway, it's just one theory.

And it goes without saying she's the stereotypical MPDG.

Great summary, you should write romantic comedies.

It just needs a snappy, yet wistful, title.


"Upsizing Your Heart"

"Love in 1/4 of the space"

"The Gimp at Home" - That's the BDSM fan fic of the movie where instead of traveling the world looking for food they travel the world looking for sex dungeons.
 
2013-03-12 09:48:28 AM  
Hey, whatever makes you happy...but I hardly think it warrants a hero tag.
 
2013-03-12 09:48:39 AM  

Pocket Ninja: 4) Girl who doesn't care about/have money and guy who has money and wants to keep farking girl go on trip together to gritty but safe third world destination. He sees gritty things, like people bathing in rivers. Girl has a copy of "Lonely Planet" that they use to find authentic local restaurants filled with backpack-toting Americans.


Nailed it.
 
2013-03-12 09:49:08 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: RexTalionis: I'm pretty unhappy with my non-materialistic lifestyle.

ftfm


Put up a wishlist in your profile along with slutty pictures, I'm sure someone would be happy to help you along with your materialism.
 
2013-03-12 09:49:56 AM  
"flush with cash from an Internet start-up sale "

"not everyone gets an Internet windfall before turning 30 "

"more money than I thought I'd earn in a lifetime. "

"not everyone gets a windfall from a tech start-up sale. "


Did he mention that he made a lot of money?

I love it when rich people tell me how to live with less...
 
2013-03-12 09:54:37 AM  
He tells me how to live with less money, let me show him how to live right after being kicked in the nuts.
 
2013-03-12 09:56:03 AM  
After being the executor of a few estates, I have come to the conclusion that I had too much stuff and have been slowly downsizing.

/spring cleaning is about to start as well
 
2013-03-12 09:56:27 AM  
It's pronounced "doosh" but it's not spelled like that.
 
2013-03-12 09:56:32 AM  
You know, between this and the Slate article yesterday by the allergic woman bragging about pestering a grieving mother at a wake about the peanut content of the food, I'm really starting to wonder whether these supposedly legitimate web sites/newspapers are purposely publishing stuff they know is trollish just for page hits.

I mean, I can't imagine more than 3% of the population not wanting to punch this guy in the face after reading this article. They have to realize that, right?
 
2013-03-12 09:58:03 AM  
Last year when the wildfires almost wiped out my house, I was evacuating. I looked around at my place deciding what to bring with me, because I was going to lose whatever I didn't take. I grabbed some clothes, food, my computer and a few guitars. That's all i really needed to survive in today's world... besides a place to live. But, I have a bunch more stuff than that.
 
2013-03-12 09:58:57 AM  

sigdiamond2000: You know, between this and the Slate article yesterday by the allergic woman bragging about pestering a grieving mother at a wake about the peanut content of the food, I'm really starting to wonder whether these supposedly legitimate web sites/newspapers are purposely publishing stuff they know is trollish just for page hits.


You don't think there really are people like this? I know there are. I've spotted them in the wild.

I can't imagine more than 3% of the population not wanting to punch this guy in the face after reading this article. They have to realize that, right?

They never realize it.
 
2013-03-12 10:03:43 AM  
The crux of the article, in my view:

My success and the things it bought quickly changed from novel to normal. Soon I was numb to it all. The new Nokia phone didn't excite me or satisfy me. It didn't take long before I started to wonder why my theoretically upgraded life didn't feel any better and why I felt more anxious than before.

A phone isn't supposed to "excite" you or improve your emotional state.  You sound farked up in the head in a way that shouldn't be blamed on materialism.  See a therapist.  Moving from one extreme to the other doesn't make you wise.
 
2013-03-12 10:04:29 AM  

Lumpmoose: A phone isn't supposed to "excite" you or improve your emotional state. You sound farked up in the head in a way that shouldn't be blamed on materialism. See a therapist. Moving from one extreme to the other doesn't make you wise.


My phone improves my emotional state.
 
2013-03-12 10:07:21 AM  

Lumpmoose: A phone isn't supposed to "excite" you or improve your emotional state.  You sound farked up in the head in a way that shouldn't be blamed on materialism.  See a therapist.  Moving from one extreme to the other doesn't make you wise.


The problem is he is like many people who don't have the money to upgrade their lives yet still feel the need to do it anyway.  So instead of writing an article about this problem, he wrote one about how stuff doesn't buy happiness while sitting in his $2,000-a month NYC apartment.
 
2013-03-12 10:07:35 AM  
Well at least he isn't living in a 5 star New York hotel while he tells we should imagine a world without money.
 
2013-03-12 10:08:19 AM  

Mugato: sigdiamond2000: You know, between this and the Slate article yesterday by the allergic woman bragging about pestering a grieving mother at a wake about the peanut content of the food, I'm really starting to wonder whether these supposedly legitimate web sites/newspapers are purposely publishing stuff they know is trollish just for page hits.

You don't think there really are people like this? I know there are. I've spotted them in the wild.

I can't imagine more than 3% of the population not wanting to punch this guy in the face after reading this article. They have to realize that, right?

They never realize it.


I know people like this exist. I know some of these kinds of people. Whenever they leave the room, everyone talks about what assholes they are. Sometimes they don't even wait until they leave the room.

As out of touch as the Northeastern elite may be, I find it very hard to believe that the NYT didn't realize that they were publishing a story that was going to generate almost nothing but hate for this f*ckstick.
 
2013-03-12 10:09:49 AM  
Düch
 
2013-03-12 10:11:13 AM  

RexTalionis: Lumpmoose: A phone isn't supposed to "excite" you or improve your emotional state. You sound farked up in the head in a way that shouldn't be blamed on materialism. See a therapist. Moving from one extreme to the other doesn't make you wise.

My phone improves my emotional state.


Yeah, but you're probably balanced.  Some people legitimately need drugs to accomplish that.
 
2013-03-12 10:28:04 AM  

RexTalionis: Lumpmoose: A phone isn't supposed to "excite" you or improve your emotional state. You sound farked up in the head in a way that shouldn't be blamed on materialism. See a therapist. Moving from one extreme to the other doesn't make you wise.

My phone improves my emotional state.


yeah but that has more to do with your abuse of the vibration function than your reliance on materialism.
 
2013-03-12 10:29:58 AM  
I don't have a single CD or DVD and I have 10 percent of the books I once did.

Me too! Going digital is great.
 
2013-03-12 10:38:42 AM  

sigdiamond2000: As out of touch as the Northeastern elite may be, I find it very hard to believe that the NYT didn't realize that they were publishing a story that was going to generate almost nothing but hate for this f*ckstick.


Ohhh they know, it generates page hits
 
2013-03-12 10:39:03 AM  
"Money isn't important! Taking a couple of years off to travel around the world with your closest friends is what's important!"
 
2013-03-12 10:39:11 AM  
I think we need a review of the use of the hero tag
 
2013-03-12 10:39:57 AM  
".....bigger, better, richer life with less."

Trying doing without smugness too if you can.
 
2013-03-12 10:40:06 AM  
Longest justification for being forever alone that I've heard.
 
2013-03-12 10:40:20 AM  

GiantRex: Don't let Hollywood see this, or we'll be seeing a trailer for the movie by the end of the year.


Dharma & Greg:  When Manic Pixie Dream Girls Go Bad.
 
2013-03-12 10:43:00 AM  
I have a boat.

I think I will keep it, materialism be damned.

Also some rods, multiple types of boots, a bicycle, a shotgun, some patio furniture, a grill, a firepit, and will be getting a kayak.

Might even try windsurfing this summer.

If only I had the money to experience those activities without owning stuff?
 
2013-03-12 10:43:24 AM  
Aside from my travel habit... I feel better that my carbon footprint is significantly smaller

Ignoring the the parts that aren't smaller, my carbon footprint is smaller.
 
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