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(Daily Mail)   FBI calls the Juggalos a violent gang comparable to the Crips or Latin Kings. Next, the Feds will be investigating Browncoats, who may be Nazi sympathizers because of the way they dress   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 70
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2013-03-12 01:07:12 PM  
The US government targeting private citizens based solely on specious evidence? If only we had precedent this wouldn't be so shocking...

On March 1, 1990, Steve Jackson Games' offices in Austin, Texas were raided by the U.S. Secret Service. The manuscript for GURPS Cyberpunk was confiscated ... More than three years later, a federal court awarded damages, ruling that the raid had been carelessly executed, illegal, and completely unjustified.
 
2013-03-12 01:55:32 PM  
I was a teen in the 1970's, when Alice Cooper was considered the antichrist. Parents were actually upset over him and his persona.

A female friend in the mid-1970s arranged to play golf with him -- and even wrote a story about it for her Indiana newspaper.  Cooper loved playing golf and was surprisingly religious, though if she'd known much about his family that wouldn't have been a surprise.  Alice Cooper in Wikipedia
 
2013-03-12 02:08:50 PM  

fluffy2097: Lee451: I was a teen in the 1970's, when Alice Cooper was considered the antichrist. Parents were actually upset over him and his persona. That is why parents today saw Marilyn Manson and went, "meh". Each young generation has to find new ways to shock their parents.

Yeah, except I think ICP is older then Manson.

Which is hilarious when you consider a bunch of 45-50 year old men singing about "farking the man"

/Same problem Green Day is having these days
//20 years has passed since they were 21 and on top of the world.


Just to be "technical" about this:  Brian Warner (Marilyn Manson) was born in 1969.  Joseph Bruce (Violent J) was born in 1972.  Joseph Utsler (Shaggy 2 Dope) was born in 1974.  Marilyn Manson and the two Josephs all began their musical careers in 1989.
 
2013-03-12 02:26:34 PM  
I live near where they hold the "Gathering of the Juggalos", and the FBI is exaggerating when they compare it to violent gangs. However, they're not simply whiny teens or people wearing Cannibal Corpse shirts. There's a larger amount of vandalism and violence than normal concert events, and the local town has to waste money every year hiring extra police.

And it means I had to be within twenty miles of Pauly Shore and Tila Tequila.
 
2013-03-12 02:34:00 PM  
The problem isn't kids acting strange, the problem is when it's thirty somethings still acting like douchbags.
 
2013-03-12 02:40:53 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Even the Crips don't bury their children in styrofoam coolers with gang symbols on it.


If memory serves, that was a real baby coffin.
 
2013-03-12 02:57:15 PM  

Grandmaster_Slapnuts: fluffy2097: Lee451: I was a teen in the 1970's, when Alice Cooper was considered the antichrist. Parents were actually upset over him and his persona. That is why parents today saw Marilyn Manson and went, "meh". Each young generation has to find new ways to shock their parents.

Yeah, except I think ICP is older then Manson.

Which is hilarious when you consider a bunch of 45-50 year old men singing about "farking the man"

/Same problem Green Day is having these days
//20 years has passed since they were 21 and on top of the world.

Just to be "technical" about this:  Brian Warner (Marilyn Manson) was born in 1969.  Joseph Bruce (Violent J) was born in 1972.  Joseph Utsler (Shaggy 2 Dope) was born in 1974.  Marilyn Manson and the two Josephs all began their musical careers in 1989.


Fair enough.

38 and 40 is too old to be playing a clown.

Unless you're molesting children.
 
2013-03-12 03:11:15 PM  

dr.zaeus: FirstNationalBastard: Even the Crips don't bury their children in styrofoam coolers with gang symbols on it.

If memory serves, that was a real baby coffin.


cdn.uproxx.com

Looks like a styrofoam cooler to me. But maybe it is a real coffin.
 
2013-03-12 04:17:11 PM  

namegoeshere: croesius: LovingTeacher: As someone who deals with kids every day I have to say this is silly and sad at the same time. The teen juggalos I have met are no different than those of us in the 80s with green hair or who listened to Cannibal Corpse or dressed up to go to Rocky Horror. They stand out in a crowd, are fans of bad self-important music and like to party. The FBI is just being an old man shouting at people to get off their lawn. Why must we criminalize children just because they're "wierd"?

Ten most violent juggalo attacks, including murders, necrophilia, veteran stabbing...:
10 Most Violent Juggalo Attacks Ever

Your list doesn't even mention the murder, dismemberment, and burning of Adrienne Reynolds.


How the FARK did one juror want to acquit her?
 
2013-03-12 04:17:54 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: dr.zaeus: FirstNationalBastard: Even the Crips don't bury their children in styrofoam coolers with gang symbols on it.

If memory serves, that was a real baby coffin.

[cdn.uproxx.com image 600x449]

Looks like a styrofoam cooler to me. But maybe it is a real coffin.



One way or the other, it would make an awesome cooler.
 
2013-03-12 04:36:03 PM  

fluffy2097: Grandmaster_Slapnuts: fluffy2097: Lee451: I was a teen in the 1970's, when Alice Cooper was considered the antichrist. Parents were actually upset over him and his persona. That is why parents today saw Marilyn Manson and went, "meh". Each young generation has to find new ways to shock their parents.

Yeah, except I think ICP is older then Manson.

Which is hilarious when you consider a bunch of 45-50 year old men singing about "farking the man"

/Same problem Green Day is having these days
//20 years has passed since they were 21 and on top of the world.

Just to be "technical" about this:  Brian Warner (Marilyn Manson) was born in 1969.  Joseph Bruce (Violent J) was born in 1972.  Joseph Utsler (Shaggy 2 Dope) was born in 1974.  Marilyn Manson and the two Josephs all began their musical careers in 1989.

Fair enough.

38 and 40 is too old to be playing a clown.

Unless you're molesting children.


I'm with you, and at the same time not with you on the "too old" thing.  I find it funny to see people near or older than 40 making music for "disaffected youth".  On the other hand, being over 40 myself and still not willing to get "old" I find it comforting that Slayer, Ozzy, Kiss, GWAR, Alice Cooper, and so many other "evil" and "rebellious" bands are still going and have multi-generational fanbases as a result.  I can hardly fault ICP for continuing to do what they've always done if there is still an audience for it.
 
2013-03-12 05:19:52 PM  

croesius: LovingTeacher: As someone who deals with kids every day I have to say this is silly and sad at the same time. The teen juggalos I have met are no different than those of us in the 80s with green hair or who listened to Cannibal Corpse or dressed up to go to Rocky Horror. They stand out in a crowd, are fans of bad self-important music and like to party. The FBI is just being an old man shouting at people to get off their lawn. Why must we criminalize children just because they're "wierd"?

Ten most violent juggalo attacks, including murders, necrophilia, veteran stabbing...:
10 Most Violent Juggalo Attacks Ever


While those are all horrific crimes are they the work of mentally disturbed individuals who happen to like a certain (albiet slightly disturbing) band or is it BECAUSE of the band?

Nothing they write is any worse than any of a dozen Stephen King novels and lets face it if you were ever at a punk show in the 80s or 90s you saw plenty of drugs and violence. We weren't for the most part horrible people just a little rowdy, same thing here.
 
2013-03-12 05:43:05 PM  

croesius: LovingTeacher: As someone who deals with kids every day I have to say this is silly and sad at the same time. The teen juggalos I have met are no different than those of us in the 80s with green hair or who listened to Cannibal Corpse or dressed up to go to Rocky Horror. They stand out in a crowd, are fans of bad self-important music and like to party. The FBI is just being an old man shouting at people to get off their lawn. Why must we criminalize children just because they're "wierd"?

Ten most violent juggalo attacks, including murders, necrophilia, veteran stabbing...:
10 Most Violent Juggalo Attacks Ever


You should stay away from Christians, for sure. EVERYONE in jail is a Christian.
 
2013-03-12 05:45:34 PM  

RINO: namegoeshere: croesius: LovingTeacher: As someone who deals with kids every day I have to say this is silly and sad at the same time. The teen juggalos I have met are no different than those of us in the 80s with green hair or who listened to Cannibal Corpse or dressed up to go to Rocky Horror. They stand out in a crowd, are fans of bad self-important music and like to party. The FBI is just being an old man shouting at people to get off their lawn. Why must we criminalize children just because they're "wierd"?

Ten most violent juggalo attacks, including murders, necrophilia, veteran stabbing...:
10 Most Violent Juggalo Attacks Ever

Your list doesn't even mention the murder, dismemberment, and burning of Adrienne Reynolds.

How the FARK did one juror want to acquit her?


She blamed it all on the boy. Poor her - she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. She cleans up nice, I guess. Looked like this innocent little girl. She had a good act. When cross examined she came off as the psychopath she really is, but maybe that one juror had fallen asleep by then.
 
2013-03-12 07:01:02 PM  

Grandmaster_Slapnuts: fluffy2097: Grandmaster_Slapnuts: fluffy2097: Lee451: I was a teen in the 1970's, when Alice Cooper was considered the antichrist. Parents were actually upset over him and his persona. That is why parents today saw Marilyn Manson and went, "meh". Each young generation has to find new ways to shock their parents.

Yeah, except I think ICP is older then Manson.

Which is hilarious when you consider a bunch of 45-50 year old men singing about "farking the man"

/Same problem Green Day is having these days
//20 years has passed since they were 21 and on top of the world.

Just to be "technical" about this:  Brian Warner (Marilyn Manson) was born in 1969.  Joseph Bruce (Violent J) was born in 1972.  Joseph Utsler (Shaggy 2 Dope) was born in 1974.  Marilyn Manson and the two Josephs all began their musical careers in 1989.

Fair enough.

38 and 40 is too old to be playing a clown.

Unless you're molesting children.

I'm with you, and at the same time not with you on the "too old" thing.  I find it funny to see people near or older than 40 making music for "disaffected youth".  On the other hand, being over 40 myself and still not willing to get "old" I find it comforting that Slayer, Ozzy, Kiss, GWAR, Alice Cooper, and so many other "evil" and "rebellious" bands are still going and have multi-generational fanbases as a result.  I can hardly fault ICP for continuing to do what they've always done if there is still an audience for it.


I find it hilarou that Vincent Furnier (Alice Cooper) seems to be one of te most laid back and one of te nicest people you could met IRL. Ozzy seems like a bumbling, incoherent granda (due to te past lifestyle), Gene Simmons IS KISS and has turned it into a massive moneymakng machine. So much for being "rebels". They have always just sold a product.
 
2013-03-12 10:36:11 PM  
Supposedly doing comedy at the Gathering is the worst gig ever.
 
2013-03-13 12:48:29 AM  

Kensey: Supposedly doing comedy at the Gathering is the worst gig ever.


The gathering period is the worst gig ever unless your ICP.

/they like not paying their bills.
 
2013-03-13 04:50:47 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: Part of the problem is that these idiots attract mostly stinky inbred violent white trash mouth breathing morons. One of them is bad enough, but get a big bunch of them together and it's geometrically more
of a problem.. A bunch of stupid impulsive people who are drunk or whacked out on some other
substance and work together could be pretty dangerous..


Yeah, like steroids and donuts. Oh wait.
 
2013-03-13 08:26:30 AM  
maybe they should go to AA

where it's apparently not about drinking at all
but about anger management??
 
2013-03-13 10:50:56 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: Mr. Shabooboo: Part of the problem is that these idiots attract mostly stinky inbred violent white trash mouth breathing morons. One of them is bad enough, but get a big bunch of them together and it's geometrically more
of a problem.. A bunch of stupid impulsive people who are drunk or whacked out on some other
substance and work together could be pretty dangerous..

Yeah, like steroids and donuts. Oh wait.


 I'd guess, meth and Faygo..
 
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