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2013-03-12 08:00:48 AM  
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Meanwhile, getting rid of slum lords, which he has the legal power to do, is something Bloomberg won't do in a million years. Even though slums pose a far bigger present health issue than large soda.
2013-03-12 07:08:54 AM  
4 votes:
The thing that bothers me about a politician attempting to ban large sodas is that a politician is arrogant enough to think it's something they should be able to do.
2013-03-12 07:40:43 AM  
2 votes:
Bloomberg said he was completely confident the city will win on appeal.

"We're going to appeal, we believe the judge's decision was clearly in error. We will clearly prevail on appeal," he said. "We think the judge is totally in error and we are very confident we'll win on appeal."


Anyone else picture this guy when reading this?

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2013-03-12 10:37:12 AM  
1 votes:

salvador.hardin: Limiting the size of sodas in restaurants is good for public health. Over a population the size of New York City, it is a change that will result in measurable savings and improvement in quality of life. The only legal discussion worth having is whether the government has this kind of power over private businesses.


Lost tax revenue from sodas will hurt the economy.  Hell, if everyone in this country got healthy and made good decisions on how they spend their money, our entire economy would collapse.
2013-03-12 10:33:56 AM  
1 votes:

salvador.hardin: Limiting the size of sodas in restaurants is good for public health. Over a population the size of New York City, it is a change that will result in measurable savings and improvement in quality of life. The only legal discussion worth having is whether the government has this kind of power over private businesses.


LImiting Internet time would be good in the exact same manner. Perhaps you'd care to endorse that as well?
2013-03-12 08:35:49 AM  
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: salvador.hardin: The fact that this judge is even discussing the merits of the policy and bringing up the refills shows that this is a political move by a low rung judge looking to make some headlines off Bloomberg's name.

Basically. The timing is what gave it away for me. 24 hours before the law goes in to action? Dude wanted his name in the papers as some kind of hero.


The suit was filed in October.  They probably had to scramble to get it in front of a judge this quickly.

And can it really be considered a "law" if it wasn't passed in a legal manner?
2013-03-12 08:24:56 AM  
1 votes:

Darke: This is just such crap. Seriously, don't they have bigger problems to worry about in NYC?


You break the people's spirit with the little things first.
2013-03-12 07:42:08 AM  
1 votes:
This is really the worst way to attack the "problem".

There are just so many work-arounds. The only thing is does effectively is inconvenience  people. Reminds me of those oddball laws in some states where drinks have to be made from small bottles only and doubles are illegal.
2013-03-12 07:40:02 AM  
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: MacWizard: Popcorn Johnny: The thing that bothers me about a politician attempting to ban large sodas is that a politician is arrogant enough to think it's something they should be able to do.

And stupid enough not to consider that people might refill smaller sizes.

That was understood from the beginning. The thing is, most people don't refill when given a drink proportioned for a human. When people get the elephant serving they feel compelled to drink it all.


Don't go bringing actual observations of human behavior into it. He's got that there common sense that tells him he's got it figured out better than the people that spent time and money designing the policy. If all that fancy high-falutin policy talkin can be undone by good old common sense, then no one ever has to be worry about being infromed on any particular subject.

Limiting the size of sodas in restaurants is good for public health. Over a population the size of New York City, it is a change that will result in measurable savings and improvement in quality of life. The only legal discussion worth having is whether the government has this kind of power over private businesses.

The fact that this judge is even discussing the merits of the policy and bringing up the refills shows that this is a political move by a low rung judge looking to make some headlines off Bloomberg's name.
2013-03-12 07:32:20 AM  
1 votes:

Darke: This is just such crap. Seriously, don't they have bigger problems to worry about in NYC?


Fat people move slow and take up too much sidewalk.
2013-03-12 07:29:38 AM  
1 votes:
This is just such crap. Seriously, don't they have bigger problems to worry about in NYC?
2013-03-12 07:26:15 AM  
1 votes:
You can't regulate these things, people will find a way to circumvent whatever you come up with.

Where I live bars close at midnight, however many years ago you could still buy beer/wine until 1 am. They passed a law making those hours end at midnight as well, thinking it would cut down on drinking and alcohol related problems. The bar goers simply stocked up beforehand or simply left the bar 15 minutes early to buy more beer. The only thing they managed to do is piss off the guy who gets off work at midnight and wants to pick up a 6 pack after a stressful night at work.
2013-03-12 07:24:20 AM  
1 votes:

MacWizard: Popcorn Johnny: The thing that bothers me about a politician attempting to ban large sodas is that a politician is arrogant enough to think it's something they should be able to do.

And stupid enough not to consider that people might refill smaller sizes.


That was understood from the beginning. The thing is, most people don't refill when given a drink proportioned for a human. When people get the elephant serving they feel compelled to drink it all.
2013-03-12 07:20:09 AM  
1 votes:
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2013-03-12 07:14:40 AM  
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: The thing that bothers me about a politician attempting to ban large sodas is that a politician is arrogant enough to think it's something they should be able to do.


Nanny-statists often are.
2013-03-12 07:13:46 AM  
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: The thing that bothers me about a politician attempting to ban large sodas is that a politician is arrogant enough to think it's something they should be able to do.


And stupid enough not to consider that people might refill smaller sizes.
2013-03-12 07:13:07 AM  
1 votes:
Why don't we do something useful like stop allowing juice and other sugary beverages to be purchased with WIC and SNAP?  Public health is not about preventing individual bad decisions and more about nudging the overall decisions of populations.  You have an entire population of children essentially being force fed "healthy" whole grains and sugar water, and this population is the most vulnerable.
2013-03-12 07:09:21 AM  
1 votes:
So many better ways to protect "his" children than banning a large drink.  I wonder if New York is trying to compete with Florida?
 
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