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(Chicago Trib)   Man goes to purchase car he found advertised on Craigslist, winds up losing $5,000 in cash, his cell phone, and his pants. And of course, there was no car   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 60
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2013-03-11 08:59:26 PM
Taking a man's pants?! That's just mean!
 
2013-03-11 08:59:49 PM
Cash? Cash is for stolen good only.

If you won't take a money order, I'm not emailing you back.
 
2013-03-11 09:00:37 PM
FTFA: "But things turned ugly when one of the duo pulled a silver handgun and hit the victim on the back of the head with it. The other man drew a black gun and demanded he take off his pants and shoes, according to police. "

"A complete description of the thieves was not available. "

So...you know what colors each of their guns were, but nothing on the suspects themselves, eh? Interesting.
 
2013-03-11 09:00:49 PM
This has happened to me like three times, going out again tomorrow.  It better be a damn nice car is all I'm going to say.
 
2013-03-11 09:01:17 PM

dv-ous: Cash? Cash is for stolen good only.

If you won't take a money order, I'm not emailing you back.


Wait, you mean Wal-Mart stole everything I've ever purchased from them?
 
2013-03-11 09:01:18 PM
Sounds like a missed connection.
 
2013-03-11 09:01:45 PM
when I buy something I always email that I'd like to meet them at the local police station to be safe. about 10% of the time I never hear back.
 
2013-03-11 09:04:12 PM

untaken_name: dv-ous: Cash? Cash is for stolen good only.

If you won't take a money order, I'm not emailing you back.

Wait, you mean Wal-Mart stole everything I've ever purchased from them?


Yeah, from little Chinese kids and the American taxpayer.
 
2013-03-11 09:05:47 PM

dv-ous: Cash? Cash is for stolen good only.

If you won't take a money order, I'm not emailing you back.


The problem with money orders is that it's easier to manipulate and outright counterfeit them than cash, and they're subject to the same recourse procedure as a personal check.  If the seller deposits your money order, and the money order is later found to be fraudulent, the money will be deducted from their account and they're out both the item and the money.

There's a reason why so many Craigslist car purchases take place at a bank using wire transfers with both parties present.  For cars of lower value, as in this case, cash is typically used.  You'll have a hard time finding a private party seller willing to accept a check of any kind.
 
2013-03-11 09:08:04 PM
The few times I ever done any transaction on Craigslist, I made sure to schedule the meeting at the coffee or doughnut shop nearest the police precinct of the other person's choice.  If they refuse, I cease all communications.
 
2013-03-11 09:08:53 PM

untaken_name: FTFA: "But things turned ugly when one of the duo pulled a silver handgun and hit the victim on the back of the head with it. The other man drew a black gun and demanded he take off his pants and shoes, according to police. "

"A complete description of the thieves was not available. "

So...you know what colors each of their guns were, but nothing on the suspects themselves, eh? Interesting.


That's what I thought.

On the other hand, if they had guns, this wouldn't have happened.
 
2013-03-11 09:09:14 PM
A complete description of the thieves was not available

Complete as in names, ages and social security numbers?
 
2013-03-11 09:10:44 PM
The funny thing is that if he'd gotten pulled over by the cops on the way to buy the car, they would have taken his money, too. After all, anybody with $5000 cash on them must be a drug dealer. Doncha love civil asset forfeiture?
 
2013-03-11 09:13:11 PM
Anyone else think the woman in the mugshot link next to the article looks like the meth-head cousin of Jenna Fischer?
 www.trbimg.com
 
2013-03-11 09:14:15 PM

Spanky_McFarksalot: when I buy something I always email that I'd like to meet them at the local police station to be safe. about 10% of the time I never hear back.


I go to any public place, usually a Starbucks or something similar.  Basically anywhere that if they pull some shiat, people are going to call the cops.  Hell, maybe next time I'll use a doughnut shop.
 
2013-03-11 09:15:33 PM

timujin: Spanky_McFarksalot: when I buy something I always email that I'd like to meet them at the local police station to be safe. about 10% of the time I never hear back.

I go to any public place, usually a Starbucks or something similar.  Basically anywhere that if they pull some shiat, people are going to call the cops.  Hell, maybe next time I'll use a doughnut shop.


Find the local cop hangout. There was pizzeria in my hometown that got a lot of cop traffic. That is where I would meet up with someone.
 
2013-03-11 09:16:07 PM
A few years back I was selling an old Jeep Grand Cherokee. The damn thing wouldn't even pass inspection.

So I put in an ad on Craigslist.

I live just north of New York City, and someone from upstate New York contacted me about it. He was willing to give me $1000 for it. He actually flew in to JFK airport the same night, I picked him up, we drove 30 miles to where the Jeep was, made a deal in the parking lot. He had "borrowed" the plates from his other Jeep so he just put those on and drove off.

There were so many things that just screamed a scam, but still we were able to make a deal.

/CSB
 
2013-03-11 09:22:12 PM
That's why I never buy vehicles that cost more than $300.
 
2013-03-11 09:23:21 PM
No description and no comments. Must be those Swedish Farks.
 
2013-03-11 09:26:50 PM
Well duh. My mostly computer challenged older relatives were swapping Craigslist Horror Stories. Which are just the new newspaper classified ad horror stories which were the new cave drawing horror stories.

/SO bought a $350 bike off Craigslist this weekend and knew not to have the cash on him since "suddenly have to move to Germany" sounded fishy
//it was legit, and he ran into them later at the bike store buying spare parts for their $2000 bikes before they shipped them
 
2013-03-11 09:28:33 PM

Joe Peanut: The few times I ever done any transaction on Craigslist, I made sure to schedule the meeting at the coffee or doughnut shop nearest the police precinct of the other person's choice.  If they refuse, I cease all communications.


Brilliant!
 
2013-03-11 09:30:30 PM

untaken_name: So...you know what colors each of their guns were, but nothing on the suspects themselves, eh? Interesting.


that part makes sense to me.

if i was getting robbed at gunpoint i suppose i would have 1005% of my attention on the gun too.
 
2013-03-11 09:35:05 PM

GizmoToy: dv-ous: Cash? Cash is for stolen good only.

If you won't take a money order, I'm not emailing you back.

The problem with money orders is that it's easier to manipulate and outright counterfeit them than cash, and they're subject to the same recourse procedure as a personal check.  If the seller deposits your money order, and the money order is later found to be fraudulent, the money will be deducted from their account and they're out both the item and the money.

There's a reason why so many Craigslist car purchases take place at a bank using wire transfers with both parties present.  For cars of lower value, as in this case, cash is typically used.  You'll have a hard time finding a private party seller willing to accept a check of any kind.


Money talks, bullshiat walks.
 
2013-03-11 09:36:26 PM

Lehk: untaken_name: So...you know what colors each of their guns were, but nothing on the suspects themselves, eh? Interesting.

that part makes sense to me.

if i was getting robbed at gunpoint i suppose i would have 1005% of my attention on the gun too.


You wouldn't have seen the guys when you were talking to them before they pulled out the guns? At least general things, like height and weight?
 
2013-03-11 09:48:07 PM

dv-ous: Cash? Cash is for stolen good only.

If you won't take a money order, I'm not emailing you back.


The half-dozen or so times I've sold my old motorcycles on Craigslist, I've always emphasized that the deals are "CASH ONLY!"

I wouldn't trust anything else.
 
2013-03-11 09:49:38 PM

GizmoToy: dv-ous: Cash? Cash is for stolen good only.

If you won't take a money order, I'm not emailing you back.

The problem with money orders is that it's easier to manipulate and outright counterfeit them than cash, and they're subject to the same recourse procedure as a personal check.  If the seller deposits your money order, and the money order is later found to be fraudulent, the money will be deducted from their account and they're out both the item and the money.

There's a reason why so many Craigslist car purchases take place at a bank using wire transfers with both parties present.  For cars of lower value, as in this case, cash is typically used.  You'll have a hard time finding a private party seller willing to accept a check of any kind.


Why would I pay wire transfer fees?  Bring the car to my bank, join me at the teller's counter, and take a cashier's check.  No farking way I'm handing you cash anywhere.
 
2013-03-11 09:50:39 PM
Still waiting for these in adult sizes.

www.sfgate.com
 
2013-03-11 09:52:31 PM

dv-ous: Cash? Cash is for stolen good only.

If you won't take a money order, I'm not emailing you back.


I've bought and sold ~50 cars with cash, I wouldn't consider doing it any other way. Show up with a money order or check and you will have to find another car to buy.
 
2013-03-11 09:59:54 PM

Lehk: untaken_name: So...you know what colors each of their guns were, but nothing on the suspects themselves, eh? Interesting.

that part makes sense to me.
if i was getting robbed at gunpoint i suppose i would have 1005% of my attention on the gun too.


1005?
not 1007??
sigh
;-)

and yah, how about meet me at this dealer/mechanic.
they are going to do an inspection on the vehicle.

no? click
 
2013-03-11 10:00:53 PM
I've never ever had a bad Craig's experience, but if there is any doubt I just meet them at a supermarket with a bank branch(which are everywhere here in SoCal and have better hours), but anywhere with cameras would probably do.
 
2013-03-11 10:03:47 PM

drewogatory: I've never ever had a bad Craig's experience, but if there is any doubt I just meet them at a supermarket with a bank branch(which are everywhere here in SoCal and have better hours), but anywhere with cameras would probably do.


I just leave my computer on with the CL post up in one tab and google maps with driving directions in another tab. Also I wear kevlar and dual bullet belts and I open-carry twin cowboy revolvers, just to make sure. So far, so good.
 
2013-03-11 10:04:54 PM

Ed Willy: timujin: Spanky_McFarksalot: when I buy something I always email that I'd like to meet them at the local police station to be safe. about 10% of the time I never hear back.

I go to any public place, usually a Starbucks or something similar.  Basically anywhere that if they pull some shiat, people are going to call the cops.  Hell, maybe next time I'll use a doughnut shop.

Find the local cop hangout. There was pizzeria in my hometown that got a lot of cop traffic. That is where I would meet up with someone.


My sister sols a tv in the parking lot of the police station.
 
2013-03-11 10:18:36 PM

Lehk: untaken_name: So...you know what colors each of their guns were, but nothing on the suspects themselves, eh? Interesting.

that part makes sense to me.

if i was getting robbed at gunpoint i suppose i would have 1005% of my attention on the gun too.


this is mentioned on true crime TV shows often. shove a gun in someones face, it becomes their entire world, it's suddenly the size of the room. people can't think straight when they feel they are about to die.
 
2013-03-11 10:27:52 PM
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And that's why I buy all my cars from police auctions.
 
2013-03-11 10:31:30 PM
I bet those greasy chimps raped the woman.

/just sayin'
 
2013-03-11 10:32:05 PM
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Approves.

/sympathizes?
//empathizes?
 
2013-03-11 10:39:22 PM

untaken_name: FTFA: "But things turned ugly when one of the duo pulled a silver handgun and hit the victim on the back of the head with it. The other man drew a black gun and demanded he take off his pants and shoes, according to police. "

"A complete description of the thieves was not available. "

So...you know what colors each of their guns were, but nothing on the suspects themselves, eh? Interesting.


You can guess that they weren't silver.
 
2013-03-11 10:39:41 PM

Spanky_McFarksalot: when I buy something I always email that I'd like to meet them at the local police station to be safe. about 10% of the time I never hear back.


If I'm selling a lawnmower for fifty bucks I'm not going to respond if someone asks me to drag it a few miles and hope they show up.

That's probably most of the non responding people you're seeing.
 
2013-03-11 11:03:42 PM

Lehk: if i was getting robbed at gunpoint i suppose i would have 1005% of my attention on the gun too.


I wasnt the one bieng robbed, but I was a bystander during an armed robbery of a cycle supply shop. The guy spun on me, gun pointed at my head and ordered me back inside and on the floor (I was trying to sneak out after seeing him pull a gun on the clerk).

I remember the gun was a black revolver.

I can also picture him (features and all) clear as day.

/ this happened in 1982
 
2013-03-11 11:29:00 PM
How can the police not catch suspects when they know where the suspects live? Did they break into the house, too?
 
2013-03-11 11:35:58 PM
Any time someone is about to ship out overseas locally but left his car at the last base with a promise to ship it through paypal- fraud.  I always make it a point to mess with them though, just to see the lengths they were willing to go to continue the scam.

Oh what a shame.  You are local, but you left the car at your last base.  Not a problem, I'll have my friend on base check it out.  Oh, not on base.  That's alright, they know the area well enough.   *click*

Great, you're just five minutes away from me.  Can't leave the base because you are getting your physical and will be shipping out Monday to basic and then to Afghanistan?  Can't sign me in because you're not allowed visitors... Can you have a friend meet me outside the base?  Oh.  You do realize that you don't get physicals on base before basic, you go to a MEPS facility and are still considered a civilian.  Also, you don't get shipped to an overseas location upon completion of basic training.  *click*

No maam, but I can personally vouch that there is no such title as "Major Nurse" in the USAF.  *click*

No matter what the seller claims, Paypal only ensures that the seller gets their money- not that you get what you paid for.Something, something, paypal, something, ship on a flatbed...RUN AWAY!
 
2013-03-12 12:06:39 AM

untaken_name: FTFA: "But things turned ugly when one of the duo pulled a silver handgun and hit the victim on the back of the head with it. The other man drew a black gun and demanded he take off his pants and shoes, according to police. "

"A complete description of the thieves was not available. "

So...you know what colors each of their guns were, but nothing on the suspects themselves, eh? Interesting.


Had a gun pointed in my face once, I couldn't tell you a description of the man, but the end of that barrel looked HUGE.
 
2013-03-12 12:08:42 AM

Joe Peanut: The few times I ever done any transaction on Craigslist, I made sure to schedule the meeting at the coffee or doughnut shop nearest the police precinct of the other person's choice.  If they refuse, I cease all communications.


I use the pizza parlor our Sheriff's daughter owns. It's always full of cops and if the car turns out to be too rusty or otherwise not for me, I can buy the seller a slice and no hard feelings.

/made a surprising number of friends that way.
 
2013-03-12 12:26:47 AM
untaken_name:
"A complete description of the thieves was not available. "

So...you know what colors each of their guns were, but nothing on the suspects themselves, eh? Interesting.


That's cop for "we have a pretty good idea who these guys are, and where they're at, but we're gathering additional evidence or waiting on a warrant, and we don't want them to run."
 
2013-03-12 12:33:09 AM

probesport: dv-ous: Cash? Cash is for stolen good only.

If you won't take a money order, I'm not emailing you back.

I've bought and sold ~50 cars with cash, I wouldn't consider doing it any other way. Show up with a money order or check and you will have to find another car to buy.


Well, of course you wouldn't.  Otherwise you'd have to deal with pesky things like taxes, dealer licenses, titling cars in your name before flipping them....
 
2013-03-12 01:52:15 AM

dv-ous: Cash? Cash is for stolen good only.

If you won't take a money order, I'm not emailing you back.


Nope.  Too many fake money orders and bank checks out there.  That's a whole genre of scam.  I wouldn't even want a pile of cash because I'd have to authenticate every bill.  I'll go with you to your bank and you can have them run a check while I'm standing there or give me a pile of cash.  Either way, I want clear sight of the check or cash going from the teller's hands to mine.
 
2013-03-12 01:53:21 AM

DrPainMD: The funny thing is that if he'd gotten pulled over by the cops on the way to buy the car, they would have taken his money, too. After all, anybody with $5000 cash on them must be a drug dealer. Doncha love civil asset forfeiture?


Probably his cell phone too, at least temporarily. But I bet they would let him keep his pants.
 
2013-03-12 01:56:09 AM

Sim Tree: How can the police not catch suspects when they know where the suspects live? Did they break into the house, too?


jesus farking christ it took this long for this to come up?
 
2013-03-12 02:42:56 AM
He should have asked to see their FOID and CFP cards to make sure they were allowed to have the guns. I bet that would have stopped them in their tracks.
 
2013-03-12 02:54:46 AM

jtown: I wouldn't even want a pile of cash because I'd have to authenticate every bill.  I'll go with you to your bank and you can have them run a check while I'm standing there or give me a pile of cash.  Either way, I want clear sight of the check or cash going from the teller's hands to mine.


And you believe that people buying things on Craigslist will agree to that? Just take the $40 for the dresser, ok? We brought a truck.
 
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