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2013-03-11 04:51:35 PM  

mysticcat: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]

Seoul brothers


Pyongyang Train! The hippest trip in East Asia. 60 nonstop years across the tracks of your mind, into the exciting world of ... uh ... Pyongyang.
 
2013-03-11 04:51:46 PM  
"You only have to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down."
 
2013-03-11 04:51:54 PM  

mysticcat: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]

Seoul brothers


And I thought Rodman would be the only black person in north korea.  hell, there's another one two rows back.
 
2013-03-11 04:52:04 PM  

kumanoki: meat0918: Shrugging Atlas: Be nice if we could just say, "Fair enough" and have the B-2s pay their nuclear facilities a visit.  China would probably thank us at this rate.

China might beat us to the punch.  They could certainly assert themselves as a world power that can "fix" something America hasn't been able too.

I have always wondered why China tolerates DPRK foolishness on it's landmass.


I think they're very close to not tolerating it any more.  They've been publicly distancing themselves from NK for some time now.
 
2013-03-11 04:52:42 PM  
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2013-03-11 04:53:25 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: WhoopAssWayne: Shrugging Atlas: China would probably thank us at this rate.

Just like Seoul, China really, really, really doesn't want millions of refugees pouring over the border. I think they'd be pretty pissed if we whistled up the B-2s. But of course, sometimes you just have to bomb the sh*t out of a place, because that's the way it is.

That's why the three countries (the US, China and SKorea) need to come up with a post-fall plan NOW.  We should explain that we will give them all needed aid for such a thing.

Japan could be required to give billions of aid as well to help.  Call it war reparations or something.

I know it's unrealistic.  But leaving the NKorean citizens with what they have now is cruel.


Rifles and plane tickets are readily available. Go and free em or shut up.
 
2013-03-11 04:53:39 PM  
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2013-03-11 04:54:39 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: but I don't think a few strikes on out of the way facilities are going to start a refugee crisis.


Right - I was thinking more in terms of it escalating into that situation. Definitely a lot of things could short-circuit a refugee crisis or another war, but I think the risk is there given how unstable they are.
 
2013-03-11 04:54:42 PM  

God's Hubris: Dr. Goldshnoz: WhoopAssWayne: sometimes you just have to bomb the sh*t out of a place, because that's the way it is.

QFT.


You can always spot the pro-life Christians.


actually im for abortions and do not subscribe to organized cult.

it's not too late for your mother to abort you, you know.
 
2013-03-11 04:54:57 PM  
I just want to know who is beating this war drum?
 
2013-03-11 04:55:33 PM  

timujin: The U.N. can say it's still valid, but that doesn't mean anything if Best Korea decides to ignore it.


No the UN made it perfectly OK to blow them to hell for firing the first shot and violating the agreement
 
2013-03-11 04:55:39 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: WhoopAssWayne: Just like Seoul, China really, really, really doesn't want millions of refugees pouring over the border. I think they'd be pretty pissed if we whistled up the B-2s. But of course, sometimes you just have to bomb the sh*t out of a place, because that's the way it is.

Not that any of this is that simple or that I was seriously advocating the idea or China actually thanking us for the deed, but I don't think a few strikes on out of the way facilities are going to start a refugee crisis.  Hell, Best Korea might not even release that information on state run media and if they did I strongly doubt they would allow their cannon fodder citizens to run away to China.


No, but it'd give them enough of a moral ground for going bugfark and blowing shiat up that half the countries in the world that would stomp on them if they started it would stand back and argue for awhile first. Nobody wants to see that avalanche of shiat fall again, so he stomps his little feet and the rest of the grownups ignore his pudgy little ass. If he does fark with SK then everybody except China doesn't care who shoots him in the face. China might even join in just to get their hands on natural resources in the area.

I speak on the subject backed by ironclad speculations and personal conjecture.
 
2013-03-11 04:55:58 PM  

timujin: The U.N. can say it's still valid, but that doesn't mean anything if Best Korea decides to ignore it.


It means the international media are going to blame South Korea for any attacks North Korea launches.

/in short, Worst Korea is going to be treated like Israel
//we should just let them all nuke each other, that'd teach them (that both the UN and US can't be trusted to keep any promises at all)
 
2013-03-11 04:57:20 PM  
You have to wonder if China is saying to itself "We really should kill this guy and put our own guy in there".

The Chinese are evil, but they aren't stupid, and they don't like being associated with stupid.
 
2013-03-11 04:57:21 PM  
Hmmm... that's not what the UN said in 1967 when Egypt unilaterally kicked their blocking force out of Sinai.
 
2013-03-11 04:57:33 PM  

Evil Mackerel: inner ted: mysticcat: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]

Seoul brothers

who's the other black dude ? there can't be that many in best korea can there?

He's a decoy.


A decoy? But they don't even loo...

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2013-03-11 04:58:00 PM  

JusticeandIndependence: I just want to know who is beating this war drum?


North Korea. Haven't you been paying attention?
 
2013-03-11 04:58:06 PM  

meat0918: Shrugging Atlas: Be nice if we could just say, "Fair enough" and have the B-2s pay their nuclear facilities a visit.  China would probably thank us at this rate.

China might beat us to the punch.  They could certainly assert themselves as a world power that can "fix" something America hasn't been able too.


I'd be fine with it, let them deal with Best Korea.
 
2013-03-11 04:58:54 PM  

iheartscotch: MaudlinMutantMollusk: EvilEgg: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Put up or shut up, tubby

You might feel differently if you lived in Seoul.

They don't seem to be real worried about it, either, from what I've seen

/I don't believe for a minute this situation is any different from the dozen other times Best Korea has screamed and squealed and stomped it's little feet

I agree; the south would tear through the Norks like chilli through an old folks home.


Except the Korean DMZ is the most heavily fortified border in the world with thousands of landmines. You would need a ton of engineering vehicles just to not have to go through single file.
 
2013-03-11 04:59:06 PM  

Tatterdemalian: timujin: The U.N. can say it's still valid, but that doesn't mean anything if Best Korea decides to ignore it.

It means the international media are going to blame South Korea for any attacks North Korea launches.

/in short, Worst Korea is going to be treated like Israel
//we should just let them all nuke each other, that'd teach them (that both the UN and US can't be trusted to keep any promises at all)


I'm not sure at all how you came to that conclusion.
 
2013-03-11 04:59:07 PM  
I don't really think the UN saying that the Armistice is still valid is going to really stop North Korea from doing a damn thing.  Though, honestly, unless North Korea can build a nuclear missile powered by rocks, they aren't a big threat to the U.S.
 
2013-03-11 04:59:53 PM  

realmolo: You have to wonder if China is saying to itself "We really should kill this guy and put our own guy in there".

The Chinese are evil, but they aren't stupid, and they don't like being associated with stupid.


Dunno - they can be slooooow to learn. I mean, seriously, no joke, in 1980, they decided that runners weren't cutting it in their war against Vietnam, and that they should probably look into this "radio" thing everyone keeps talking about.

/Even CHINA lost to Vietnam
 
2013-03-11 05:00:07 PM  

vudukungfu: mysticcat: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]

Seoul brothers

What the fark IS that?
A beer with  a pacifier nipple on it?


And what's up with the Mexican in the background??
 
2013-03-11 05:00:35 PM  
too_amuzed

Allow me to introduce this concept called "Entourage"......
 
2013-03-11 05:01:00 PM  

Dr. Goldshnoz: You can always spot the pro-life Christians.


Yeah, I think he was talking about me :-) The last bit of my Weeners was admittedly crass / poorly expressed.
 
2013-03-11 05:01:18 PM  

vygramul: realmolo: You have to wonder if China is saying to itself "We really should kill this guy and put our own guy in there".

The Chinese are evil, but they aren't stupid, and they don't like being associated with stupid.

Dunno - they can be slooooow to learn. I mean, seriously, no joke, in 1980, they decided that runners weren't cutting it in their war against Vietnam, and that they should probably look into this "radio" thing everyone keeps talking about.

/Even CHINA lost to Vietnam


Vietnam - The war no one won.
 
2013-03-11 05:01:26 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: EvilEgg: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Put up or shut up, tubby

You might feel differently if you lived in Seoul.

They don't seem to be real worried about it, either, from what I've seen

/I don't believe for a minute this situation is any different from the dozen other times Best Korea has screamed and squealed and stomped it's little feet


I have a southern Korean friend in South Korea she didn't even know about it until recently.
 
2013-03-11 05:01:43 PM  

vygramul: Hmmm... that's not what the UN said in 1967 when Egypt unilaterally kicked their blocking force out of Sinai.


Yeah, but Jews.  Changes everything.

/sarcasm
 
2013-03-11 05:01:55 PM  

Why does China tolerate it?


NK is a buffer between itself and the US sphere of influence, and hundreds of thousands of Chinese died during the Korean War to push the UN/US troops back to the 38th parallel.

 
2013-03-11 05:01:59 PM  
Weeners - LOL!
 
2013-03-11 05:02:50 PM  

Dr. Goldshnoz: God's Hubris: Dr. Goldshnoz: WhoopAssWayne: sometimes you just have to bomb the sh*t out of a place, because that's the way it is.

QFT.


You can always spot the pro-life Christians.

actually im for abortions and do not subscribe to organized cult.

it's not too late for your mother to abort you, you know.



I think, if they're posting on FARK, then it probably is too late for that.

Life isn't like South Park, after all.
 
2013-03-11 05:03:46 PM  

Yamaneko2: Why does China tolerate it?
NK is a buffer between itself and the US sphere of influence, and hundreds of thousands of Chinese died during the Korean War to push the UN/US troops back to the 38th parallel.


Because China doesn't want the million war refugees from a starved North Korea.
 
2013-03-11 05:03:53 PM  

mithras_angel: probably


Then there's a chance?
 
2013-03-11 05:04:48 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: WhoopAssWayne: Shrugging Atlas: China would probably thank us at this rate.

Just like Seoul, China really, really, really doesn't want millions of refugees pouring over the border. I think they'd be pretty pissed if we whistled up the B-2s. But of course, sometimes you just have to bomb the sh*t out of a place, because that's the way it is.

That's why the three countries (the US, China and SKorea) need to come up with a post-fall plan NOW.  We should explain that we will give them all needed aid for such a thing.

Japan could be required to give billions of aid as well to help.  Call it war reparations or something.

I know it's unrealistic.  But leaving the NKorean citizens with what they have now is cruel.


The US, China, South Korea, and Japan will plan for a regime change in NK, today's announcement just means they can do it all under the UN banner so none of those countries can be seen as empire building.
 
2013-03-11 05:04:56 PM  
Can we just fly over the Royal Palace and drop a little gift wrapped box that contains a note which reads "This could have been a very large bomb"?
 
2013-03-11 05:06:33 PM  

iheartscotch: MaudlinMutantMollusk: EvilEgg: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Put up or shut up, tubby

You might feel differently if you lived in Seoul.

They don't seem to be real worried about it, either, from what I've seen

/I don't believe for a minute this situation is any different from the dozen other times Best Korea has screamed and squealed and stomped it's little feet

I agree; the south would tear through the Norks like chilli through an old folks home.


Pretty much.  I was talking about this over Facebook with my brother the other day, and this was his take on it:

"Here's the thing with Best Korea: They do not know how to get their way in the international scene by any other means than saber rattling. They're like a small, petulant child who only throws tantrums, and the international community, like parents who are frustrated and tired, simply give in after a while because they don't want the screaming to keep happening in public.

"If they do go nutso and ACTUALLY try something, however, the result will probably be initially quite bad but over very fast. Seoul will get pounded, and there will be a lot of casualties there. Which is horrible. But after taking a bloody nose from the DPRK, the South Korea/US alliance will pound their military into a fine powder. Currently we have two aircraft carrier battle groups within strike range, plus two divisions of ground troops and two wings of land-based aircraft. The technology level of DPRK is ancient compared to this, I mean hell, they're still flying MiG-17s, which are Korean War-era aircraft. Grand total they have around 110 operational aircraft out of a claimed 1,500. A single squadron of F/A-18s and a couple Arliegh Burke-class cruisers would be enough to deal with that.

"And don't worry about China in all this. China knows if a war starts, they're going to be dealing with MILLIONS of Korean refugees, a humanitarian disaster on a scale they've never had. They are getting really frustrated with the little pipsqueak they said they'd defend, and just recently voted FOR the UN sanctions in the security council. If a war does happen, you'll see China make a wall of soldiers just behind the Yalu River, and that will be the anvil against which the US/South Korea hammer strikes."
 
2013-03-11 05:07:33 PM  

KangTheMad: iheartscotch: MaudlinMutantMollusk: EvilEgg: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Put up or shut up, tubby

You might feel differently if you lived in Seoul.

They don't seem to be real worried about it, either, from what I've seen

/I don't believe for a minute this situation is any different from the dozen other times Best Korea has screamed and squealed and stomped it's little feet

I agree; the south would tear through the Norks like chilli through an old folks home.

Except the Korean DMZ is the most heavily fortified border in the world with thousands of landmines. You would need a ton of engineering vehicles just to not have to go through single file.



Or you have Puff the Magic Dragon clear the way.
 
2013-03-11 05:08:25 PM  
Martin Nesirky said the 60-year-old armistice agreement had been adopted by the U.N. General Assembly and neither North Korea nor South Korea could dissolve it unilaterally.

Bullsh*t.

It just takes one word: FIRE!
 
2013-03-11 05:08:56 PM  
I'm willing to bet that there's a SSGN or two sitting off of the coast of Best Korea as we speak with everything already targeted at their radar and such just waiting for Best Korea to start pulling the strings on their artillery.

/to soon be followed up by a gaggle of conventional bombers headed towards the DMZ
 
2013-03-11 05:09:53 PM  

kumanoki: I have always wondered why China tolerates DPRK foolishness on it's landmass.



Balance.  Because of the threat the DPRK poses the US maintains an enhanced military presence in the region.  China believes that the presence of American forces in the region helps to stabilize what would otherwise be a cauldron of intense and bitter rivalries with historical and ethnic overtones.  A large US presence reassures China's neighbors to some extent (that American forces would intervene if they are attacked).  What China doesn't want to see is a major rearmament of it's neighbors.  Replacing a distant and relatively disinterested political entity with heavily armed regional rivals isn't a desirable exchange.
 
2013-03-11 05:10:59 PM  
We should set NK up with Twinkie making equipment. If that was their national product we could help them to help themselves. That could probably sustain their nation without their fatass in charge.
 
2013-03-11 05:11:43 PM  

vygramul: JusticeandIndependence: I just want to know who is beating this war drum?

North Korea. Haven't you been paying attention?


False. This current spate of tensions was started by a new round of economic sanctions.
 
2013-03-11 05:14:33 PM  

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2013-03-11 05:15:02 PM  

KangTheMad: iheartscotch: MaudlinMutantMollusk: EvilEgg: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Put up or shut up, tubby

You might feel differently if you lived in Seoul.

They don't seem to be real worried about it, either, from what I've seen

/I don't believe for a minute this situation is any different from the dozen other times Best Korea has screamed and squealed and stomped it's little feet

I agree; the south would tear through the Norks like chilli through an old folks home.

Except the Korean DMZ is the most heavily fortified border in the world with thousands of landmines. You would need a ton of engineering vehicles just to not have to go through single file.


Does south not have a navy?

Either way; I know the south has a decent sized Air Force. I imagine taking out all the north's artillery wouldn't take too long for them. Plus, they have us. Once the artillery is gone, we could take out their nuclear facilities with limited effort.

/ The south wouldn't really need to go through the DMZ until then.
 
2013-03-11 05:17:28 PM  

Ned Stark: False. This current spate of tensions was started by a new round of economic sanctions.


False. This current spate of tensions was started by Best Korea testing a nuclear weapon.

/we can ping pong this all day if we wanted to but eventually it will boil down to when North Korea invaded South Korea in 1950.
 
2013-03-11 05:18:53 PM  

Lachwen: I mean hell, they're still flying MiG-17s, which are Korean War-era aircraft.


They've got a few dozen MiG 29's as well as some older MiGs. I'm not saying South Korea won't get their hair mussed but I do say no more than one to two thousand killed, tops, depending on the breaks.
 
2013-03-11 05:19:55 PM  

Ned Stark: vygramul: JusticeandIndependence: I just want to know who is beating this war drum?

North Korea. Haven't you been paying attention?

False. This current spate of tensions was started by a new round of economic sanctions.


What's the other option, look the other way and let them have their nuclear program, knowing full well they want to take their tiny nuclear dick and attempt to fark the west with it?
 
2013-03-11 05:20:45 PM  

Radioactive Ass: Ned Stark: False. This current spate of tensions was started by a new round of economic sanctions.

False. This current spate of tensions was started by Best Korea testing a nuclear weapon.

/we can ping pong this all day if we wanted to but eventually it will boil down to when North Korea invaded South Korea in 1950.


Nope that's the end. North Korea is not party to the NNPT. Attempts to forcibly dismantle its nuclear program are unlawful.
 
2013-03-11 05:21:09 PM  

iheartscotch: The south wouldn't really need to go through the DMZ until then.


The problem with a Maginot Line is that it tends to point in only one direction and that if the other guy knows it then it's easy to overcome with a little bit of ingenuity.
 
2013-03-11 05:21:48 PM  

Dr. Goldshnoz: God's Hubris: Dr. Goldshnoz: WhoopAssWayne: sometimes you just have to bomb the sh*t out of a place, because that's the way it is.

QFT.


You can always spot the pro-life Christians.

actually im for abortions and do not subscribe to organized cult.

it's not too late for your mother to abort you, you know.


Lighten up, Francis. You think anyone does any actual research on whether you're a Christian before making snarky comments?
 
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